Thomas, Norman or Kim may be better able to answer your question though having additional information about your Samuel J. would be a big help. The inclusion of location and wife's name are clues for possible identification. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kinkead" <tomree@tampabay.rr.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA #122441 ancestry > Sue Liedtke: Sue i see in your E-Mail listing for Jonathan E.Kincaid,the > name John Kincaid marriage to Margaret Miles 1782, Cumberland County. > As i have been searching for my ancestor Samuel J.Kinkead,Born > 6/23/1782,could their be a possible connection? [Hope springs eternal] > Thank > you.Tom Kinkead #20720. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:05 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA #122441 ancestry > > >> Kim Kincaid, contact for husband Jonathan E. Kincaid DNA #122441, has >> sent >> me lineage information and given permission to share same. She will be >> working on a vetting post later this summer. >> >> Jonathan Kincaid >> Jerome A Kincaid & Martha Weathermon >> Arthur M Kincaid m Ruth Basore 1931 >> Albert H. Kincaid m Dora Mattox 1886 Orange Co. IN >> Martin Kincaid m Mary Anna Hollowell 1852 Washington Co. IN >> Andrew Kincaid m Margaret Scott 1823 Crawford Co. IN >> John Kincaid m Margaret Miles 1782 Cumberland Co. PA >> >> Norman's vetting post on April 20, 2007 shows that the next link is >> George >> Kincaid born c1733 died 1790 m prior 1758 Jean Mitchell. This is very >> exciting in that #122441 does not have the marker 4 (DYS 391) mutation to >> 11. Kim seems to be a document oriented researcher so vetting #122441 >> should >> isolate Norman's 11 at marker 4 downline from John/Margaret Miles. >> #122441's >> results for markers 13 to 37 have not been returned. Confirmation that he >> has a 9 at marker 15 (DYS 459b) is eagerly awaited. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart >> >> >>> Jeff, this post was originally made when the results for 55675 and 60141 >>> were first returned. The marker 4 (DYS391) and marker 35 (DYS CDYb) >>> mutations that Peter's comments are refering to appear to have occured >>> as >>> parallel mutations several times within the project so basing a >>> relationship >>> or lack of relationship on these mutations is a bit iffy unless the >>> paper >>> trail suggests otherwise. The mutations cannot be dismissed and should >>> be >>> confirmed or isolated if at all possible. >>> >>> Within Group A set 1c, which is based on the marker 4 mutation to 11 for >>> want of any other distinguishing attribute, we know that: >>> >>> #4588, #92549 and #5850 all seem to have inherited the mutation from >>> Robert/Mary Bowman. >>> >>> #33001 has a paper trail that suggests that his mutation is parallel and >>> occurred downline from a common ancestor with #101753 who does not have >>> the >>> mutation. >>> >>> #55675, #35199 and #2564 may have had a common source for the mutation >>> as >>> the 1800 families do know and interact with each other, however, >>> #55675's >>> ancestor does have a close association with earliest ancestors >>> (including >>> those of #60141, #2565 and #31493) who do not have the mutation. >>> >>> #15779, #23547 and #64507 lines do not cross paths with any of the >>> others >>> during the known line histories, it is hard to say how ancient their >>> mutation is or whether or not it is probable (though definately >>> possible) >>> it >>> came from a common ancestor with anyone else in the set.. >>> >>> Mutations to 11 at marker 4 also occur in A-1b, A-2a, A-2b and A-4. In >>> each >>> of these cases it would be unlikely that the mutation was from a common >>> ancestor with any of the others or with any in A-1c. >>> >>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jeff Bergman" <jeffancom@yahoo.com> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart >>> >>> >>> Peter, Did I miss something? 2564 matches up with whom? Please fill me >>> in >>> if >>> there is a new version of and to the chart. Thanks.....Jeff Bergman 8th >>> great grandson of John and Nancy Young Kincaid.. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@auracom.com> >>> To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:40:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart >>> >>> Fascinating news on the DNA front. So the Fincastle Kincaids >>> appear to match up with Andrew of Greenbrier (Will 1810)! >>> If only Olvia Brisbin was alive to hear this. On the other >>> front John Kincaid (m. Ann Graham) lines up with Rev. >>> Joseph Kincaid of Killinchy, County Down. What interesting >>> news! Look forward to seeing these genealogies worked out. >>> Gotta love this DNA technology. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To >>> unsubscribe from the list, please send an email >>> toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotesin the subject and the body of the message >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message