11. Mother of two has a boyfriend. She gets pregnant. Boyfriend dies. Female Child (age 11) of mother goes to court to petition for a name change to that of mother's deceased boyfriend. Judge grants request. Pregnant mother delivers baby and correctly gives him deceased boyfriend's surname. Female 11 year old grows up and has two children while unmarried. She gives the children the surname of the deceased boyfriend. Only the child born post mortem has the correct DNA. (This is convoluted but very much a true story within my family.) Ruth In a message dated 7/17/2008 10:09:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: 10. A young underage girl in the family has a male child out of wedlock, and her parents avoid the stigma and impact on the girl's future, by treating the child as their son rather than grandson. This happened in my own family, but with a girl child (even chance it could have been a boy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website > and added a few more below their info: > > Non Paternity > The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to non > paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is > given a surname that differs from his historical surname. > > Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. > > 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's > surname, even though the husband is not the father. > > 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. > > 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. > > 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their > name. > > If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must > work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA > test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when or > what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or > it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it could > be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded > adoption or a common-law marriage. > > My additions: > > 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other > families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother > died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in > school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was not > their son. > > 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is > freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and > respected. > > 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many > people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen > to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match > > 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names > changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with > most of that surname. > > > > Are there more non paternity events not listed above? > > DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. > > Don W. > > > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname Number 1. was apparently what happened in my husband Ted47327 who was given a middle name of the father who legally said he would raise him after marrying his mother. When Ted took the DNA test he was put in the adoption file. I use the word apparently as his parents are gone, all documents I have confirm what I stated. I personally believe he is the grandson of Isaac and Vina Summers Kincaid but unless a male from their family will take the DNA test my belief means nothing. Tootsie Shoemaker Tomlinson wife of the late Ted47327 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utahn1@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > 11. Mother of two has a boyfriend. She gets pregnant. Boyfriend dies. > Female > Child (age 11) of mother goes to court to petition for a name change to > that > of mother's deceased boyfriend. Judge grants request. Pregnant mother > delivers baby and correctly gives him deceased boyfriend's surname. Female > 11 year > old grows up and has two children while unmarried. She gives the children > the > surname of the deceased boyfriend. Only the child born post mortem has the > correct DNA. > > (This is convoluted but very much a true story within my family.) > > Ruth > > > In a message dated 7/17/2008 10:09:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: > > 10. A young underage girl in the family has a male child out of wedlock, > and > her parents avoid the stigma and impact on the girl's future, by treating > the child as their son rather than grandson. This happened in my own > family, > > but with a girl child (even chance it could have been a boy) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> > To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > > >> We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website >> and added a few more below their info: >> >> Non Paternity >> The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to >> non >> paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is >> given a surname that differs from his historical surname. >> >> Non Paternity Events >> 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. >> >> 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's >> surname, even though the husband is not the father. >> >> 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. >> >> 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. >> >> 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their >> name. >> >> If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must >> work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA >> test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when >> or >> what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or >> it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it >> could >> be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded >> adoption or a common-law marriage. >> >> My additions: >> >> 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other >> families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother >> died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in >> school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was >> not >> their son. >> >> 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is >> freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and >> respected. >> >> 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many >> people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen >> to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match >> >> 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names >> changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with >> most of that surname. >> >> >> >> Are there more non paternity events not listed above? >> >> DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. >> >> Don W. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid > %20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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