After posting an email about Thomas Kyncaide of that Ilk in 1550 having an Ulster Coat of Arms, I did some further research about the Ulster King of Arms and found that it was an inactive position from the late 1540's to 1552 which raised a red flag about Thomas's coat of arms. We did some research and found that the Ulster King of Arms is now handled by the College of Arms so we emailed asking about this Thomas and just today received a note from the College of Arms that they have found no record of a Thomas Kyncaide as having an Ulster Coat of Arms or for that matter they say no Kincaid of any spelling shows to have an Ulster Coat of Arms from the 16th century (begins 1501) through the middle of the 20th century so it appears the information I copied while in Scotland in 1985 came from a bogus genealogy source. Based on this information please disregard my original email about Thomas. At least we now know there were no Kincaid's with Ulster Arms. Below is email from College of Arms in case you ever have a need to contact them. Don From: P.L. Dickinson, Richmond Herald College of Arms, Queen Victoria Street, London EC4V 4BT Tel: 020 7236 9612 Dear Mr Kincaid, Thank you for your e-mail of 30 June addressed to the College of Arms. I can find no reference to any family called Kyncaide (or associated spellings) in the records of Ulster King of Arms, the heraldic authority for Ireland from the sixteenth century until the middle of the twentieth century. 'Kyncaide of that Ilk' suggests a Scottish rather than an Irish family. Can you perhaps indicate the source of your reference, so that I might suggest other possible avenues of enquiry? Yours sincerely, P.L. Dickinson ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: Kincaid Rootsweb List Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:59 AM Subject: Ulster King of Arms Does anyone have access to the records of the Ulster King of Arms. If so, is there a record of any Ulster Kincaid's of any spelling being approved for an Ulster coat of arms other than Thomas Kyncaide of that Ilk in 1550? Since there seems to be a Kincaid in Ulster with Arms as early as 1550, I am wondering if he might be of a different line of Kincaid's than the ones from Campsie Parish, Stirlingshire, Scotland and possibly account for one of the current groups in our dna project. Don