Debby, Your mitrochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comes from a long line of females (your brother has the same mtDNA as you have but his children do not). There is a surname change in every generation so it would not help you with any research on a specific surname. In my instance the surnames as far back as we can figure out are: Meiser, Dorris, Shields, Crowley, McIninch. We do not know the name of my ggg grandmother's mother so I have no idea what the next link is. Doing research using mtDNA is extremally problematic and can do little more than give you a general path to one of the large mtDNA groups. Interesting but not very useful. The closest I've come to any practical research use is a lady whose ancestress was adopted at a time and place that may (or may not) point to a connection with my ancestress born a McIninch. In order to be useful in research, DNA needs to be linked to that surname. This is accomplished by using yDNA which is passed from father to son along with the surname. If you want to further your Kincaid research by using DNA, you will have to find a male descendent of a Kincaid in your line. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <gregndebbypotter@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report > Thanks for the info... so doesn't it seem like a good idea (even with the > Kincaid project) to do the dna on women as well? Even if our probabilities > would take us back only half as far, we could still then be linked to some > male descendent, who can then be linked back further. I'm not arguing for > it, since I'm not sure that I would participate at this time anyway. But > it does seem that it would open more doors for those interested in their > Kincaid roots (at least for the 50% or whatever that descend from a > female). > > I've had a couple more Kincaids ask to join the group, but other than you > and Dick, who I have now on my personal facebook, I haven't made a lot of > connections through the group. I have, however, very much enjoyed getting > to know you two a little better!! :) I've thought about opening up a yahoo > e-mail account and setting up a secondary 'personal facebook' account that > would allow me to post comments and write on walls for other members that > do the same thing. Then I would just open up another tab on my internet > explorer and keep that e-mail open as well (since it's the e-mail that > tells you most of the activity that goes on in your facebook). It would > still be secure in that I would only post on that facebook pics and info > that I don't mind sharing with a crowd. :) > >>From my experience with my high school class group, which is doing very >>well, the group site itself is rarely used (it's the connections you make >>through it). I think facebook has a long way to go to make their group >>experiences more practical. I'll keep the group available, however, and >>hopefully some people are using it to make more personal connections. I'm >>a people person, so knowing someone is a probably 5th cousin, however many >>times removed, is not nearly as interesting to me as knowing the person. > > Later! > Debby > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:35 pm > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report > > > > Debby and others, > > There are many dna tests available however the Y dna paternal test is the > only > one that gets results that tell you within a few generations who you are > kin to > or at least the line. The next most popular test is the mt DNA maternal > test > which both guys and gals can take, however at best you only get a 50% > probability of a common ancestor at 50 generations back whereas with a 37 > of 37 > Y dna test you can get over 90% likelihood of a common ancestor in 12 or > less > generations. The best way to find and understand all the various dna tests > is to > go to Family Tree DNA's website and read the descriptions. If you or > anyone in > your family decides to do a dna test, be sure to do it through a group > like the > Kincaid Surname DNA Project instead of an individual test because there is > a > large differential in pricing. > > How is your Face book project going? > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gregndebbypotter@aol.com > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:26 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report > > > Don, I was visiting with an ancestry.com customer service rep about my > ancestry membership and saw an advertisement for the dna testing. I asked > him if > only men were able to participate in those, and he told me that women > could too > (they just don't have as many markers to compare). I had understood from > our > group that only Kincaid men could participate in the dna project, so our > family > would have to go back to a gg grandfather in order to have participated. > Is that > by choice,?because you are going back so far? I still don't know that I > would be > interested in participating, but I would like to know what my options are. > > Thanks, Don.... > > Debby Potter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> > To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:34 pm > Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report > > > > 2008 involved lots of progress in the Kincaid DNA Project with 17 new Y > dna > participa > nts and a slew of upgrades plus several mt DNA tests and a variety of > > other advanced tests. We now have 9 different spellings of Kincaid > represented > > in the project, several countries and 8 non related Groups identified to > date. > > Sue has carried the big load of work for the administrative team and > deserves > many thanks for the considerable time she spent on the charts and vetting > process and lineage work in general.Ruth has provided invaluable advice > and > did > a fair share of the work while also serving as the Kincaid List > administrator. > > The many contributions by list members have been invaluable over the > years to > helping with lineage of our DNA participants. > > For the history buffs, I cajoled a time line out of Peter A. Kincaid who > started > off the Kincaid Surname DNA Project and served as the single > administrator for > > several years. It is as follows: > > Peter A. Kincaid timeline of Kincaid Surname DNA Project: > Heard of technology from a genealogy friend named Gertrude Urquhart > Sent message June 4, 2001 to Kincaid list and got great interest > Set web page on June 30, 2001 outlining project and addressing main > issue; > privacy > Had 13 people who initially agreed to participate. Put out call for > money > July > 15, 2001 > Ordered kits August 8, 2001 for nine participants as we had > stragglers/dropouts. > Sent 6 kits to Family Tree DNA on August 29, 2001 > Ordered three more September 3, 2001 > Ordered two more kits October 4, 2001 > Sent three kits to Family Tree DNA on October 5, 2001 > First 6 kits sent to lab by Family Tree DNA on October 13, 2001 > Sent 2 kits to Family Tree DNA on October 16, 2001 > Sent one kit to Family Tree DNA on November 5, 2001 > Results back for first 10 participants on November 22, 2001 > > We thank Peter for his foresight, time and expertise on the project and > appreciate his willingness to contribute valuable material and guidance. > > A while back I wrote to let you know about a reporter from the L.A. Times > who > wanted to d > o a story on > the Kincaid DNA project. The story appeared Sunday in > the L.A. Times. The link is: > > > http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dnasurprise18-2009jan18,0,5045230.story > > The article is pretty good over all, but as a typical reporter, Alan > Zarembo > took a few liberties with his story. I am quoted as saying things I did > not > say > as he twisted some of my words. Some stories told to him by others > probably > should not have appeared in his article, but he included them for shock > value/interest. The headlines were atrocious! On a positive note, this > story > will hopefully increase the interest in DNA as it applies to a surname > project. > > One of the positive things is that Sunday afternoon a radio show producer > from > > New Zealand called asking for me to be interviewed on New Zealand radio > on > Sunday night so we did and are hoping to get at least one dna participant > from > > new Zealand. The producer did a phone search and found there were 17 > Kincaid's > > listed in New Zealand. We have also received emails from several folks > who > read > the story asking for further information so we gladly sent them a copy of > the > Kincaid DNA results chart done by Sue and gave the the link for the > Kincaid > DNA > Project. Several genealogy websites have put the story on their websites > with > the first I saw being Pasco County in Florida. Today I saw that is was > posted > on > a website for China! I also noticed it was posted on a MIT science weblog > and > with a comment that the headlines were bad. Thanks to those who talked to > the > reporter and helped do the story! > > We look forward to an even better 09! We welcome suggestions on ways to > improve > the Kincaid of all Spellings DNA Project. I will be attending the Family > Tree > DNA Conference in March in Houston, TX. We will also attend and display > the > Kincaid DNA results chart at The Gathering of the Clans in Scotland this > Summer > and look forward to the Kincaid Tour planned by Clan Kincaid in > cooperation > with > Arabella Kincaid of Kincaid who will > be our host and lead the 100 or so > Kincaid's on th > e march down the Royal Mile at the festivities. Joan Kincaid, > Dick Kinkead and others will also display the results chart at Highland > Games > in > Canada and the USA. Thanks to Dick Kinkead for printing another large DNA > chart > to be used for display in 2009! > > Yours aye, > > Don Kincaid > for the admin team > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message