The mt DNA test is for men and women but only shows you the maternal matches i.e. our mother's mother and on back. I am in the process of preparing a report on where we stand in the Kincaid Surname DNA project on mt DNA tests to date. One interesting thing on my own mt DNA results, I match almost 2,100 maternally of which one of them happened to have the surname Kinkaid so I sent an email to the person who turned out to be the wife of a Kinkaid and since her husband had taken the Y DNA test, she forwarded my email to her father-in-law who had been emailing back and forth with Peter but did not have his latest email address so he wrote me & now Peter & the Kinkaid's, who live in England are back in contact and Peter is helping them sort out their lineage. The stories we find about my ancestors are as important to me as knowing who they are however we have developed close bonds with several of our 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th generation cousins which makes the long hours of research more worthwhile! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: gregndebbypotter@aol.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report Thanks for the info... so doesn't it seem like a good idea (even with the Kincaid project) to do the dna on women as well? Even if our probabilities would take us back only half as far, we could still then be linked to some male descendent, who can then be linked back further. I'm not arguing for it, since I'm not sure that I would participate at this time anyway. But it does seem that it would open more doors for those interested in their Kincaid roots (at least for the 50% or whatever that descend from a female). I've had a couple more Kincaids ask to join the group, but other than you and Dick, who I have now on my personal facebook, I haven't made a lot of connections through the group. I have, however, very much enjoyed getting to know you two a little better!! :) I've thought about opening up a yahoo e-mail account and setting up a secondary 'personal facebook' account that would allow me to post comments and write on walls for other members that do the same thing. Then I would just open up another tab on my internet explorer and keep that e-mail open as well (since it's the e-mail that tells you most of the activity that goes on in your facebook). It would still be secure in that I would only post on that facebook pics and info that I don't mind sharing with a crowd. :) >From my experience with my high school class group, which is doing very well, the group site itself is rarely used (it's the connections you make through it). I think facebook has a long way to go to make their group experiences more practical. I'll keep the group available, however, and hopefully some people are using it to make more personal connections. I'm a people person, so knowing someone is a probably 5th cousin, however many times removed, is not nearly as interesting to me as knowing the person. Later! Debby -----Original Message----- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:35 pm Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report Debby and others, There are many dna tests available however the Y dna paternal test is the only one that gets results that tell you within a few generations who you are kin to or at least the line. The next most popular test is the mt DNA maternal test which both guys and gals can take, however at best you only get a 50% probability of a common ancestor at 50 generations back whereas with a 37 of 37 Y dna test you can get over 90% likelihood of a common ancestor in 12 or less generations. The best way to find and understand all the various dna tests is to go to Family Tree DNA's website and read the descriptions. If you or anyone in your family decides to do a dna test, be sure to do it through a group like the Kincaid Surname DNA Project instead of an individual test because there is a large differential in pricing. How is your Face book project going? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: gregndebbypotter@aol.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report Don, I was visiting with an ancestry.com customer service rep about my ancestry membership and saw an advertisement for the dna testing. I asked him if only men were able to participate in those, and he told me that women could too (they just don't have as many markers to compare). I had understood from our group that only Kincaid men could participate in the dna project, so our family would have to go back to a gg grandfather in order to have participated. Is that by choice,?because you are going back so far? I still don't know that I would be interested in participating, but I would like to know what my options are. Thanks, Don.... Debby Potter -----Original Message----- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:34 pm Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaid DNA Project report 2008 involved lots of progress in the Kincaid DNA Project with 17 new Y dna participa nts and a slew of upgrades plus several mt DNA tests and a variety of other advanced tests. We now have 9 different spellings of Kincaid represented in the project, several countries and 8 non related Groups identified to date. Sue has carried the big load of work for the administrative team and deserves many thanks for the considerable time she spent on the charts and vetting process and lineage work in general.Ruth has provided invaluable advice and did a fair share of the work while also serving as the Kincaid List administrator. The many contributions by list members have been invaluable over the years to helping with lineage of our DNA participants. For the history buffs, I cajoled a time line out of Peter A. Kincaid who started off the Kincaid Surname DNA Project and served as the single administrator for several years. It is as follows: Peter A. Kincaid timeline of Kincaid Surname DNA Project: Heard of technology from a genealogy friend named Gertrude Urquhart Sent message June 4, 2001 to Kincaid list and got great interest Set web page on June 30, 2001 outlining project and addressing main issue; privacy Had 13 people who initially agreed to participate. Put out call for money July 15, 2001 Ordered kits August 8, 2001 for nine participants as we had stragglers/dropouts. Sent 6 kits to Family Tree DNA on August 29, 2001 Ordered three more September 3, 2001 Ordered two more kits October 4, 2001 Sent three kits to Family Tree DNA on October 5, 2001 First 6 kits sent to lab by Family Tree DNA on October 13, 2001 Sent 2 kits to Family Tree DNA on October 16, 2001 Sent one kit to Family Tree DNA on November 5, 2001 Results back for first 10 participants on November 22, 2001 We thank Peter for his foresight, time and expertise on the project and appreciate his willingness to contribute valuable material and guidance. A while back I wrote to let you know about a reporter from the L.A. Times who wanted to d o a story on the Kincaid DNA project. The story appeared Sunday in the L.A. Times. The link is: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dnasurprise18-2009jan18,0,5045230.story The article is pretty good over all, but as a typical reporter, Alan Zarembo took a few liberties with his story. I am quoted as saying things I did not say as he twisted some of my words. Some stories told to him by others probably should not have appeared in his article, but he included them for shock value/interest. The headlines were atrocious! On a positive note, this story will hopefully increase the interest in DNA as it applies to a surname project. One of the positive things is that Sunday afternoon a radio show producer from New Zealand called asking for me to be interviewed on New Zealand radio on Sunday night so we did and are hoping to get at least one dna participant from new Zealand. The producer did a phone search and found there were 17 Kincaid's listed in New Zealand. We have also received emails from several folks who read the story asking for further information so we gladly sent them a copy of the Kincaid DNA results chart done by Sue and gave the the link for the Kincaid DNA Project. Several genealogy websites have put the story on their websites with the first I saw being Pasco County in Florida. Today I saw that is was posted on a website for China! I also noticed it was posted on a MIT science weblog and with a comment that the headlines were bad. Thanks to those who talked to the reporter and helped do the story! We look forward to an even better 09! We welcome suggestions on ways to improve the Kincaid of all Spellings DNA Project. I will be attending the Family Tree DNA Conference in March in Houston, TX. We will also attend and display the Kincaid DNA results chart at The Gathering of the Clans in Scotland this Summer and look forward to the Kincaid Tour planned by Clan Kincaid in cooperation with Arabella Kincaid of Kincaid who will be our host and lead the 100 or so Kincaid's on th e march down the Royal Mile at the festivities. Joan Kincaid, Dick Kinkead and others will also display the results chart at Highland Games in Canada and the USA. Thanks to Dick Kinkead for printing another large DNA chart to be used for display in 2009! Yours aye, Don Kincaid for the admin team To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message