Yes this is understood to be the one transported. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of Chalcarroch Is this the John Kincaid who came to American on the "Henry and Francis" in 1685? These paragraphs are from "The hereditary sheriffs of Galloway; their "forebears" and friends, their courts and customs of their times, with notes of the early history, ecclesiastical legends, the baronage and placenames of the province" " John Kincaid in Chalcarroch confesses that he heard Mr. Samuel Arnot and Mr. George Barclay preach in the house of Arioland and little Aries, and that he had a chyld baptized with Mr. Thomas Kennedy, minister in Ireland. Confesses he was at the communion in Penninghame about the time of the rebellion or thereby, where Mr. John Welsh preached : And being inter- rogat if he counterfeited a testimonial for one Sprot, confesses he did the same, and does not deny but he received the Cove- nant at the communion where Mr. John Welsh preached : And being interrogat if Bothwell Bridge was rebellion, was not clear to give his judgement thereanent ; and further the pass being produced judicially, he not only owned the same, but also signed it that it was the same testificat that he forged, and this he con- fesses judicially by his own declaration : And further confesses that he was at the breaking of Mr. James Couper, minister at Methven-Mochrum his house, immeadiately before the rebellion seventhie-nyne. " Committed to the irons. (Signed) JOHN KINCAID." ******************************************************************* " William Sprot in Clutach confesses judicially that he ad- vised John Kincaid to counterfeit a pass to him when he was going to Ireland ; and being solemnly sworn and interrogat if he converst with rebells, depones he converst with no rebels from the last circuit at Dumfries in anno 83 : and being interrogat 136 HEREDITARY SHERIFFS OF GALLOWAY [A.D. 1683 how old his last chyld was, and who baptized it, he depones that his last child is about 3 years old, and that Mr. Ross baptized it. Owns the king's authority, and disowns rebellious principles, and says he knows not what the test or oath of allegiance is. " Committed to prison. (Signed) QUEENSBERRY." ********************************************************************* " John Kincaid in Chalcarroch, and John Henderson, whose crymes are extraordinary, sent for trial before the Justice- General and Lords of Justiciary at Edinburgh ***************************************** Again, John Welsh (a grandson of John Knox), the ejected minister of Irongray, held a conventicle on a whinny bank in Larg. As the congregation were assembling, the Laird o' Larg set the brushwood in a blaze, tauntingly exclaiming : " The old fox is burnt out." " You have grudged God's minister a whinny corner of your land," Welsh solemnly replied ; " perhaps He may not leave your children enough land to spread a tent on." http://www.archive.org/stream/hereditarysherif02agneuoft/hereditarysherif02agneuoft_djvu.txt

The History of the Sufferings of the Church of Scotland, from the Restoration to the Revolution By Robert Wodrow, Robert Burns Published by Blackie & Son, 1835 Item notes: v.4 Original from the New York Public Library Digitized Aug 31, 2006 http://books.google.com/books?id=j0YRAAAAIAAJ There are several references to John Kincaid in this digitized book, and on p. 332, the records seem to confirm that this John Kincaid was banished to America. The Scottish Covenanter Movement, which includes dates for John Knox, Mary Queen of Scots, Oliver Cromwell, and the establishment of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland: http://www.wpcspi.org/Dr.%20Lee's%20Research/The%20Scottish%20Covenanter%20Movement.pdf Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of Chalcarroch > Yes this is understood to be the one transported. > > Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 9:58 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of Chalcarroch > > > Is this the John Kincaid who came to American on the "Henry and Francis" > in 1685? > > These paragraphs are from "The hereditary sheriffs of Galloway; their > "forebears" and friends, their courts and customs of their times, with > notes of the early history, ecclesiastical legends, the baronage and > placenames of the province" > > " John Kincaid in Chalcarroch confesses that he heard Mr. > Samuel Arnot and Mr. George Barclay preach in the house of > Arioland and little Aries, and that he had a chyld baptized with > Mr. Thomas Kennedy, minister in Ireland. Confesses he was at > the communion in Penninghame about the time of the rebellion > or thereby, where Mr. John Welsh preached : And being inter- > rogat if he counterfeited a testimonial for one Sprot, confesses > he did the same, and does not deny but he received the Cove- > nant at the communion where Mr. John Welsh preached : And > being interrogat if Bothwell Bridge was rebellion, was not clear > to give his judgement thereanent ; and further the pass being > produced judicially, he not only owned the same, but also signed > it that it was the same testificat that he forged, and this he con- > fesses judicially by his own declaration : And further confesses > > that he was at the breaking of Mr. James Couper, minister at > Methven-Mochrum his house, immeadiately before the rebellion > seventhie-nyne. > > " Committed to the irons. (Signed) JOHN KINCAID." > > ******************************************************************* > > " William Sprot in Clutach confesses judicially that he ad- > vised John Kincaid to counterfeit a pass to him when he was > going to Ireland ; and being solemnly sworn and interrogat if he > converst with rebells, depones he converst with no rebels from > the last circuit at Dumfries in anno 83 : and being interrogat > > > > 136 HEREDITARY SHERIFFS OF GALLOWAY [A.D. 1683 > > how old his last chyld was, and who baptized it, he depones that > his last child is about 3 years old, and that Mr. Ross baptized it. > Owns the king's authority, and disowns rebellious principles, > and says he knows not what the test or oath of allegiance is. > " Committed to prison. (Signed) QUEENSBERRY." > > > ********************************************************************* > > " John Kincaid in Chalcarroch, and John Henderson, whose > crymes are extraordinary, sent for trial before the Justice- > General and Lords of Justiciary at Edinburgh > > ***************************************** > > Again, John Welsh (a grandson of John Knox), the ejected > minister of Irongray, held a conventicle on a whinny bank in > Larg. As the congregation were assembling, the Laird o' Larg > set the brushwood in a blaze, tauntingly exclaiming : " The old > fox is burnt out." " You have grudged God's minister a whinny > corner of your land," Welsh solemnly replied ; " perhaps He may > not leave your children enough land to spread a tent on." > > > http://www.archive.org/stream/hereditarysherif02agneuoft/hereditarysherif02agneuoft_djvu.txt > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message