This and Alice's message was answered by private email. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk > Peter, You have an obvioiusly different printout from what I have. Any > chance of my obtaining a copy of what you have? I've never seen anything > like > what you have written below. > > Ruth > > > In a message dated 3/8/2011 3:03:59 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have a family history printout for the family with > the last page on Herbert Clarke Kincaid and his > family. The last line reads "It is up to Virginia > and Robert to continue this history from July, 1941." > Virginia and Robert were his children. It seems to > me that Herbert Clarke Kincaid was the author > and the printout was done in July, 1941 or soon > thereafter. > > On the 7th page of this history he writes "I--Samuel > Kincaid, Sr., eldest son of Alexander Kincaid, came to > America in 1746 with his wife (name not given) and > family. ..." > > He goes on the note George Kincaid as the second > son, Robert Kincaid the third son, and James Kincaid > the youngest son. > > I don't claim H.C. Kincaid to have been accurate but > this seems clear on what he understood to be the case. > > I agree that had Samuel not been the eldest son then > perhaps Samuel came in via the mother's father. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that > Ilk > > >>I have tried to track the sources in the past and only go around in a >> circle. I think I find a source and then find that when I track it > further >> someone got it from Herbert C. Kincaid. Very frustrating. >> >> The George Kinkead killed on Jackson River in 1756 was married to >> Elizabeth >> Dean and had a son Samuel from whom the line I research descends. >> Through >> some non-concrete evidence, George and Elizabeth Dean appear to have > also >> had a son John who in turn also named a son Samuel. I cannot find >> where >> Herbert C. Kincaid states that Samuel was the eldest son. I can only > find >> that >> he calls them four brothers without saying who was born when or he says >> Samuel and his brothers. I will re-read it again very carefully to see >> where I >> might have missed the age reference. >> >> To hypothesize further, perhaps the name Samuel came into favor from >> Alexander's wife's father? This could be true if Samuel was in fact NOT >> the >> eldest. >> >> I'm in the middle of re-painting the house, remodeling a bathroom etc >> and >> have dust everywhere. Please have patience with me if my memory is > faulty >> as >> I don't know where anything is at the moment. <grin> >> >> Ruth >> >> >> >> In a message dated 3/8/2011 8:59:22 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Another problem I have with Herbert C. Kincaid's story of the >> sons of Alexander is that he states that Samuel was the eldest >> son. Samuel is not a name used by Kincaids in Scotland other >> than one occurance in the Mochrum Parish area of Ayrshire in >> the late 1600s. >> >> Has anyone seen papers of Herbert Clarke Kincaid? It would >> be nice to trace the earliest reference to this story. >> >> Peter >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that >> Ilk >> >> >>> Peter, >>> >>> WOW - I like possibilities <grin> and no, I will be a good > genealogist >>> and >>> won't take it as proof of the four brothers. Could you please tell us >>> where a copy of this petition may be obtained? >>> >>> Ruth Cherecwich >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/7/2011 7:19:16 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> I want to note that there was a petition by the heritors of >>> Stirling dated 27 May 1700 which was signed by J. Kincaid >>> of that Ilk and Alexander Kincaid, brother to the Laird of >>> Kincaid. The J. Kincaid of that Ilk was John Kincaid of >>> that Ilk, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk and Marion Boyd >>> of Trochrig. There is nothing to say that Alexander was >>> a legitimate brother of John or the son of Marion Boyd. >>> However, he could very well have been. This is the first time >>> I located a reference to Alexander. I previously noted that I >>> had not found any evidence of a brother Alexander but I did >>> find that John had an illegitimate son named Alexander. I have >>> no idea what became of Alexander, brother of John. >>> >>> One will certainly look to the story of the four sons of >>> Alexander Kincaid who supposedly came to America during >>> the Jacobite rebellion. This is in no way proves that story >>> but it does give some supporting evidence because the Alexander >>> was stated to have been born about 1670 and was the second >>> son. He certainly fits timeline wise. However, the same story says >>> that another son, Alexander, remained in Scotland and became >>> Lord Provost of Edinburgh. That part is clearly a provable >>> myth. So one has to treat the story with caution but there may >>> be some meat to it. >>> >>> Best wishes! >>> >>> Peter A. Kincaid >>> Fredericton, NB, Canada > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message