The first panel (markers 1-12) has been returned from the lab. #198598 matches the Group A AAV exactly at these markers. While this panel is not a good predictor because of so many matches to other surnames, the results do increase the probality that there isn't a DNA break in his paternal Kincaid line. The rest of the results for his 37 marker order are not due back until mid April but may start coming in anytime after the first. A vetting post to David/Winifred Hobson through their son Joseph/Rebecca Calvert's son David/Mary Williams is nearing completion. A great deal effort is being made to gather every shred of evidence available to support the lineage as it is so important to Virginia Kincaids. Note that the 2 other lines who believe descent from David/Winifred have an 11 at marker 4 (DYS 391). Both lines are believed to come through David/Winifred's son John/Elizabeth Logan. It may be that John was the first in this line with the marker 4 mutation that plagues many of Group A's lines. Sue Liedtke

Good news so far. We fly to Rochester, MN early tomorrow and will be back 3/28 if all goes well. We will have our computer with us but no files to speak of. Will try to get taxes done while in the waiting room! We are going to be redoing our back yard here in Gilbert and your comment about gardening is small spaces has given us some ideas to incorporate. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liedtke To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:00 PM Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results #198598 The first panel (markers 1-12) has been returned from the lab. #198598 matches the Group A AAV exactly at these markers. While this panel is not a good predictor because of so many matches to other surnames, the results do increase the probality that there isn't a DNA break in his paternal Kincaid line. The rest of the results for his 37 marker order are not due back until mid April but may start coming in anytime after the first. A vetting post to David/Winifred Hobson through their son Joseph/Rebecca Calvert's son David/Mary Williams is nearing completion. A great deal effort is being made to gather every shred of evidence available to support the lineage as it is so important to Virginia Kincaids. Note that the 2 other lines who believe descent from David/Winifred have an 11 at marker 4 (DYS 391). Both lines are believed to come through David/Winifred's son John/Elizabeth Logan. It may be that John was the first in this line with the marker 4 mutation that plagues many of Group A's lines. Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that Rebecca Calvert and her sister Ann were daughters of John Calvert of Frederick County, VA. This is a message from Dennis House in 2004: "<<Burroughs to Ann Calvert, >> Have you seen this record? I just found it last week. The "sic" is part of the record as recorded in Northern neck Warrants and Surveys. FRED 10/09/1752 NNWS- II-135 Robert Rutherford, assignee of Rebecca Calvert & Ann Calvert Kinkiad (sic); no war(t), date from surv 9 Oct 1752 - 31 Dec. 1757; 400a on Red Bud Run, a br. Of Opeckon surv'd in 1732 (752a.) for Jno Calvert who willed to 3 children. Rebecca & Ann have sold their part; adj. Enoch Pearson, Isaac Hollingsworth, Great Waggon road, Rich'd Calvert, Geo. Bruce. CC Edwd Griffith, Rich'd Abbet, Thos Spenser & Wm Duckworth." ******************************* "John Calvert (John2, Thomas1) was born circa 1689 at Upper Providence Township, now Delaware County, Pennsylvania (son of John Calvert and Judith Stamper). He moved to Orange County, Virginia in 1732 (became Frederick County in 1743), with a group of Quakers who had secured land through Alexander Ross. He is listed as one of the “Fathers of the Colony” (see information on Hopewell Meeting). On November 12, 1735, the State of Virginia granted John Calvert 850 acres of land beginning at two white oaks and a hickory near Abraham Hollingsworth’s line. (24) This land was located in what is now Frederick County, Virginia, east of the village of Kernstown, is a few miles southwest of the town of Winchester. John Calvert’s land of 850 acres was located next to Abraham Hollingsworths on Red Bud Creek. Abraham Hollingsworth house, “Abram’s Delight,” built 1754 is oldest house in Winchester, Virginia, and now houses the Winchester/Frederick County Historical Society. His home is said to have served as the first Quaker Meeting house The will of John Calvert dated October 2, 1738; proved June 28, 1739; was recorded in Orange County, Virginia (now Frederick County). (25) He called himself of the Colony of Virginia, and county of Orange, and willed his wife Jane Calvert one-third of all his lands, during her life. To his sons Robert and Isaiah the remainer of land, 850 acres, whereupon John Stephens now lives; to daughter Margaret, 300 acres of land called Hogg Run. To Rebecca and Ann Calvert, 200 acres each. To son Richard Calvert [or Robert, two transcriptions differ] the remainer of 992 acres at the death of his mother. To wife Jane Calvert my young mare 2 years old, with bald face, and the old mare. To son Robert Calvert the gray horse. To son Isaiah Calvert his choice of horses. To niece Elizabeth Carey or Cory, the brindle cow and calf. To daughters Margery, Rebecca and Ann a mare each. Rest of the estate to the children. Sons Robert and Isaiah Calvert executors. Witnesses, Terence Notley and Henry Jones. "http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hutch/LAIRD/Calvert.htm Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results #198598 The first panel (markers 1-12) has been returned from the lab. #198598 matches the Group A AAV exactly at these markers. While this panel is not a good predictor because of so many matches to other surnames, the results do increase the probality that there isn't a DNA break in his paternal Kincaid line. The rest of the results for his 37 marker order are not due back until mid April but may start coming in anytime after the first. A vetting post to David/Winifred Hobson through their son Joseph/Rebecca Calvert's son David/Mary Williams is nearing completion. A great deal effort is being made to gather every shred of evidence available to support the lineage as it is so important to Virginia Kincaids. Note that the 2 other lines who believe descent from David/Winifred have an 11 at marker 4 (DYS 391). Both lines are believed to come through David/Winifred's son John/Elizabeth Logan. It may be that John was the first in this line with the marker 4 mutation that plagues many of Group A's lines. Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 3rd panel (markers 26-37) of of #198598's order to 37 markers has been returned. He matches the Group A AAV exactly except at marker 26 where he has a 12 instead of the AAV 11. In anticipation that the 2nd panel will also closely match the Group A AAV, I have placed him in Group A-1b. This placement is consistent with our expectations but could be changed if the 2nd panel is not returned with the expected results. Debra (Amon's sister) believes she has enough information to vet this line. Posting awaits return of the last panel, editing and a final look through to make sure all bases have been covered. One disappointment has been that a deed for David or his heirs selling the Hunter's Ford land bequethed to Joseph's son David in David/Winifred's will has not been found. This land is located in what today is Scott Co. VA. Deed indexes for all involved counties have been scoured without result. Anyone have any ideas? Sue Liedtke > The first panel (markers 1-12) has been returned from the lab. #198598 > matches the Group A AAV exactly at these markers. While this panel is not > a > good predictor because of so many matches to other surnames, the results > do > increase the probality that there isn't a DNA break in his paternal > Kincaid > line. The rest of the results for his 37 marker order are not due back > until > mid April but may start coming in anytime after the first. > > A vetting post to David/Winifred Hobson through their son Joseph/Rebecca > Calvert's son David/Mary Williams is nearing completion. A great deal > effort > is being made to gather every shred of evidence available to support the > lineage as it is so important to Virginia Kincaids. > > Note that the 2 other lines who believe descent from David/Winifred have > an > 11 at marker 4 (DYS > 391). Both lines are believed to come through David/Winifred's son > John/Elizabeth Logan. It may be that John was the first in this line with > the marker 4 mutation that plagues many of Group A's lines. > > Sue Liedtke > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >