I would refer to myself as an interested "amateur" who does not have time at this stage in his life to be an active participant, but I read all postings and have participated in the DNA testing. Ruth C. has been a significant contact point for me in Group C. James Brisbin and I have met twice and he has "filled in" some missing information for me.   I will be retiring in the next 2-3 years and I hope to have much more time at that point to dedicate to the family research. We have been to Scotland twice, on our own, most recently in 2005, and we had the opportunity to walk the Kincaid-Lennox castle grounds and briefly visit the Kincaid House Hotel.   My vetted lineage is shown below.     Robert Bruce Kinkade Long Valley, NJ DNA #35915   1. Robert Bruce Kinkade Son of  George Samuel Kinkade, Jr.   Proven by Birth Certificate giving George Samuel as father 2. George Samuel Kinkade, Jr.  b. 02 May 1923 Maple Grove, Edwards Co, IL d. 18 Dec 1988 Woodstown, Salem Co, NJ   Son of  George Samuel Kinkade    Proven by death certificate of George Samuel Jr.’s giving George S. as father Proven by 1930 census listing of this family with George Samuel Jr as a son to George Samuel 3. George Samuel Kinkade, b. 07 Oct 1900 Madison, Richland Co, IL                                              d. 17 Apr 1991 Lawrenceville, Lawrence Co, IL   md. Esther Davis about 1921   Son of Albert Gallatin Kinkade, Jr.   Proven by birth Certificate for George Samuel giving Albert as his father Proved by death certificate for George Samuel giving Albert as his father 3.  Albert Gallatin Kinkade, Jr. b. 08 July 1867 Denver, Richland Co, IL                                                 d. 29 Dec 1962 Parkersburg, Richland Co, IL    md. 02 Jul 1889 Parkersburg, Richland Co, IL   Jane Thomson,  b. 01 Jun 1858 Parkersburg, Richland Co, IL                                       d. 1913 <Illinois>   Son of  Albert Gallatin Kinkade Proven by Albert Jr.’s death certificate giving Albert as his father             Proven by Albert Jr.’s return of marriage giving Albert as his father     4.  Albert Gallatin Kinkade, b. 10 Dec 1824 Lawrence County, IL                                            d. 18 May 1914 Near Lawrenceville, Lawrence Co, IL md. 05 May 1852 Lawrenceville, Lawrence, IL   Nancy Sarah Kirkwood,   b. 11 Mar 1835 Westfield, Chautauqua Co, NY                                                    d. 20 Nov 1911 Richland County, IL Son of George Wilson Kinkade Proven by death certificate of Albert giving George Wilson as his father 5.  George Wilson Kinkade, b. about 1782 PA                                             d. 22 Oct 1848 Lawrence or Richland County, IL   md. 05 Jun 1807 Henderson County, KY   Sarah McCallister, b. about 1786                                    d. 01 Nov 1830 Son of Samuel Kinkade     Proven by September 25, 1790 - Samuel Kinkade along with Patrick Allison and Theophelus  Philips appeared before Alexander McClure in Fayette County, Pennsylvania to prove the Will of George Wilson.                Proven by Virginia Soldiers of 1776, Volume 1, pg. 780-786 – George W. Kinkade signed              Power of Attorney in 1832 as representative of heirs to Elisabeth Wilson, in the estate of Col.              George Wilson relating to land warrants. Warrants issued in 1833 and divided thus: 1st, the              shares of George W. Kinkade, Elizabeth and Phoebe Pottinger, Nancy Orr and Alcy Miller, to              be embraced in one warrant, and the shares of Mrs. McCallister and Mrs. Mary Ann Patterson in another.               Proven by Samuel Kinkade and wife Elizabeth Wilson are mentioned in the Will of Col. George             Wilson ; Samuel was also a witness to the Will. 6.  Samuel Kinkade, b. about 1752 in PA, NJ, NY or VA  d. 21 Dec 1834 Lawrence County, IL             md. about 1775               Elizabeth Wilson, b. about 1752 Son of George Kinkead             Proven by The Preston Papers - "1756, February - George Kinkead, at Jackson River, killed;. .                 . . Mrs. Kinkead and 3 children, at Jackson River, prisoners."   Proven by Augusta County, Virginia Will Book 2, Page 166-7: November 17, 1756 John Dean along with William Dean and Jno Dickinson posted a bond of five hundred pounds as the Administrator of the estate of George Kingkade.     Proven by "The Monongahela of Old; or, Historical Sketches of South-Western Pennsylvania to             the year 1800" by James Veech. In bio of Col. George Wilson, Elizabeth is the wife of Samuel             Kincade.               Proven by second marriage of Elizabeth Dean to Paul Larsh “. . . . Mr. Paul Larche, son of Paul             Larche, master cobbler, and of Angelique le Beuf, lawful spouses, residing at Montreal, of the             one part, and Allise d'Ainne, daughter of Ouillaume Dean and of Sara Chamel,** lawful             spouses, inhabitants of New York, of the other part. . . .” ** Judge Douglas' surmises on the             spelling of these English names are: Alice Dean, William Dean and Sara Campbell."             NOTE: It is believed that Judge Douglas erred in the translation of Allise. Elise is the French             variation of the name Elizabeth which is the name seen in many records including the Will of             Paul Larsh.               Proven by 1783 census of Springhill, Westmoreland, PA; Samuel Kinkead, Paul Larsh, and son             Charles Larsh enumerated all as owners of property.               Proven by 1785 census of Springhill, Fayette, PA; Samuel Kinkade, Paul Larsh and son             Charles Larsh enumerated all as owners of property.               Proven by 1786 census of Springhill, Fayette, PA; Samuel Kinkaide, Paul Larsh and son             Charles Larsh enumerated all as owners of property.   Proven by “A Short Account of the Quinn, West, Lacy, Pottenger, Kinkade and Wilson Families by E. F. L. Quinn – details the story of Elizabeth Dean Kinkead being captured and remarried. Also mentions Samuel as the son of Geo. Kinkead along with a brother William who were not captured.   Proven by Harrison County, Kentucky Court Record Books Book A October 1798 – Charles Larsh, with Sarah Kinkade (widow of John Kinkade) and son John Kinkade posted their Bond in the Penalty of one Thousand pounds Conditioned for securing the minor Orphans of Nancy, Elcy, William and Samuel’s estate and indemnifying the Court. Sarah and John appointed guardians.     7.  George Kinkead, b about 1726 <Ireland> d. 13 Sep 1756 Jackson River, Augusta Co., VA             md. Elizabeth Dean b. about 1730 d. after 17 Nov 1792 <Springhill, Fayette, PA> --- On Fri, 12/31/10, Peter A. Kincaid <[email protected]> wrote: From: Peter A. Kincaid <[email protected]> Subject: [KINCAID] 2011 Roll Call To: [email protected] Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 1:11 PM Happy New Year to all! It has been quite a few years that we did a roll call on this list.  This is simply an invitation for everyone to post something about their line and their research interest.  One tends to be surprised to learn that there are lurkers here with  something of interest to other Kincaid list members. I will start with myself.  I descend from David Kincaid (1798-1886) of County Londonderry, Northern Ireland.  My main area of research is Kincaids in Northern Ireland and Kincaids in Scotland.  I hope that in 2011 I will finally link my David to a line in Northern Ireland or Scotland. Love to hear from the lurkers here. Best wishes! Peter Kincaid To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message