This is the famous Calhoun family of early Augusta, Virginia>South Carolina. According to this family history, the ancestors were also Alexander Calhoun and Judith Hamilton. This Calhoun/Colhoun family has records in Chalkley's Chronicles. JAMES C (CALDWELL) CALHOUN American statesman and parliamentarian, was born, of Scottish-Irish descent, in Abbeville District, South Carolina, on the 18th of March 1782. His father, Patrick Calhoun, is said to have been born in Donegal, North Ireland, but to have left Ireland when a mere child. The family seems to have emigrated first to Pennsylvania, whence they removed, after Braddock's defeat, to Western Virginia. From Virginia they removed in 1756 to South Carolina and settled on Long Cane Creek, in Granville (now Abbeville) county. Patrick Calhoun attained some prominence in the colony, serving in the colonial legislature, and afterwards in the state legislature, and taking part in the War of Independence. In 1770 he had married Martha Caldwell, the daughter of another Scottish-Irish settler. Father: Patrick Calhoun (b. Northern Ireland) Mother: Martha Caldwell Wife: Floride Bouneau Calhoun (m. 1811) University: BA, Yale University (1804) Law School: Litchfield Law School, Litchfield, CT http://www.nndb.com/people/902/000043773/ ***************** Name James Patrick CALHOUN Birth1688, Newtownstewart (Crosh House), Tyrone, Ireland Death1741, Chestnut Level, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Patrick Calhoun was married to Catherine Montgomery. Father Reverand Alexander CALHOUN Mother Lady Judith HAMILTON Misc. Notes In Ireland, the Calhouns spelled their name Colhoun (Colquhoun in some records) before moving to the States. Patrick and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, after her Stewart children were grown. They landed either in New York or Philadelphia and moved to Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania, where they settled in the Chestnut Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta Co., Virginia. Misc. Notes Following the death of Alexander, Catherine remarried in 1713, in County Donegal, Ireland to James Patrick Calhoun, son of Reverand Alexander Calhoun and Lady Judith Hamilton. Patrick and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, after her Stewart children were grown. They landed at New York or Philadelphia and moved to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where they settled in the Chestnut Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta County, Virginia. In 1755 the Indians became more active and Catherine moved again to the Long Cane Creek area of Abbeville, South Carolina. They moved in the middle of winter and got there in February 1756. The place for a while was called North and South Forks of Calhoun Creek, where it joined the Little river. They were sixteen miles from the nearest Indian settlement and thought they would be safe there. The morning of January 31, 1760 a messenger came through the little settlement and told them that the Indians were on the warpath and moving toward their area. The afternoon of January 31st and the morning of February 1st were spent loading wagons and getting provisions ready to move out. About noon on February 1st, some 200-250 settlers moved out for Augusta, Georgia, a larger town about 40 miles southeast of their location. They had only gone about 10 miles when in crossing the Long Canes Creek, several wagons got stuck. By the time they had all the wagons across the creek it was dark so they camped for the night. Soon after dark, they were attacked by a band of Cherokee Indians. Some of the settlers escaped by horseback, some on foot, but most of them scattered finding shelter in the trees or where ever they could hide. Mostly women and children were killed as 23 settlers were left dead at the sign of the massacre. The Indians had burned all the wagons and nearly all the goods were stolen. In the group that was killed, Catherine Montgomery Stewart Calhoun was among them. She was 76 years old. A monument to the dead, including Catherine, was erected in the 1790’s by Catherine’s son, Patrick Calhoun. Two small girls, ages 3 and 5 of the Calhoun’s were abducted by the Indians. One eventually returned, but the other was never heard from again. More here: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~celiadon/ps05/ps05_141.htm Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry Thank you for the further information. Would widow Judith Calhoun Gorden have been another daughter of Rev Alexander/Judith Calhoun? This will take a bit of thinking to understand. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]web.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry Sue et al, In 2002, I was responding to the following post: ***** From: "Jeff Davis" <[email protected]> Subject: [KINCAID] Robert Kinkead Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:01:23 -0400 Can anyone identify or expand on any of the following?: Robert Kinkead was born in County Tyrone, Ireland of parents in common circumstances. He married a Calhoun, by whom he had five children: Joseph, John, David, Charlotte and Catherine, all of whom were born in County Tyrone, Ireland. David arrived in Philadelphia on the "Lazy Mary" in 1783. Joseph died in Ireland without a family. John died in Egg Harbor, U.S. (NJ?) leaving a wife and two boys in Ireland. ***** This seemed to be new information to me and I wondered what the source was. I noted that perhaps the Robert here was the Robert who was the Robert mentioned in the Will of Joseph Kinkead of Birnaghs, County Tyrone. However, in further discussions it was revealed that other family sources states that this family was from Dungarven, County Waterford. This made things inconclusive. I did not say that Joseph's son Robert married a Calhoun. The above did. Now with regards to my comment about Oval Calhoun account of a Charles Kinkead marrying a Helen Calhoun. Orval O. Calhoun writes the following in "800 Years of Colquhoun, Colhoun, Calhoun, and Cahoon Family History." Helen Colhoun, born c-1698, was the third daughter and the eigth child of Rev. Alexander & Judith Colhoun, and she married Charles Kincaid, and they lived at Strabane, County Tyrone, Ire. She had died before 1772, but Charles was still alive and living in one of the houses belonging to Rev. Alexander Colhoun Jr. in 1772, when he made the assignment of property over to his son Charles Colhoun, at the time of his coming of marriage. Orval Calhoun later quotes the agreement on page 357. It reads as follows: MSS of Arts & Agreement, Nov. 3-1772, between Rev. Alexander Colhoun of Sixmilecross, Co. Tyrone, for Charles Colhoun, Gent, Youngest son of Said Rev. Alexander Colhoun, & on behalf of Mary Anderson, a minor, daughter & only child of James Anderson; and James Anderson Esq. of Killashandra, Co. Cavan, and Rev. M. Galbraith, of the marraige shortly intended between Charles Colhoun and Mary Anderson, for £200 paid by James Anderson, Alexander Colhoun did grant, the house & Offices in the town of Strabane, then last in the possession of Charles Kinkaid, Merchant, the house & tenements in Strabane in possession of John S. Hamilton Esq., and after the decease of Judith (Colhoun) Gordon, Widow, house & tenement in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh, & property in Sixmilecross, then in possession of Said Rev. Alexander Colhoun, Charles Father, and after the decease of Said Alexander Colhoun and James Anderson, and their respective wives, Margaret Colhoun and Sophia Anderson, the Estates to descend to Said Charles Colhoun and Mary, His intended Wife. Now the age of Helen Calhoun places here contemporary with Old Charles Kinkead of Baronscourt. Orval states that he felt that Charles was still alive in 1772 based on the above record. My comment is that I think the Charles of the 1772 record was young Charles Kinkead (son of Robert) who was a merchant in Strabane and who failed business wise in 1769. Thus, Orval was mixing them up. HOWEVER, if Helen Calhoun, daughter of Rev. Alexander Calhoun, was married to a Charles Kinkead then this Charles must have been the old Charles Kinkead. Now going back to the Robert, father of the David of the Lazy Mary, noted above. There is no mention of a son Charles. Charles Kinkead, the son Robert of Baronscourt, was Robert's oldest son and heir. This makes me think the Robert, father of the David of the Lazy Mary was not the Robert of Baronscourt. Since 2002 I located a number of additional records which indicate that Robert of Baronscourt was married to a Mary and that he likely had a son David but this David was of Drumbeg, County Donegal and he died in 1771. I agree that figuring out these Baronscourt Kinkeads will be a great help to the DNA project as I believe many of the participants in the project tie directly into this extended family. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > Peter, thank you for county correction for Rev. Joseph. I will change it > on > the DNA chart (I am not sure how I got Downs on there in the first place), > for the clarification on the Charles who may have married Helen Calhoun > and > the location of the Laggan. I was going by your Oct 18, 2003 post on who > Charles was. I get confused easily in Ireland so went back to some old > notes > and I am still confused. > > When you are saying the Charles Kincaid who m Helen Calhoun was perhaps > the > son of Robert, are you refering to Charles of Strabane, the clockmaker, > whose business failed in 1769? You mentioned in a 2002 e-mail that you > thought that the Robert, who had a son Charles, might have himself married > a > Calhoun. Is this the same Robert-Charles connection? > > If I am reading what you have posted previously Strabane as well as > Baron's > Court were part of the Earl of Abercorn's holdings. On a list of "Scottish > Plantation Undertakers" the Earl of Abercorn is listed as James Hamilton. > Audley's father was supposedly an Alexander Hamilton b 1639/40 m Susannah > Harrison, d 1693 Ards, Co. Down. Audley was b 1677 Londonderry d. 1763 > Donegal Castle, Donegal. I am wondering how this Alexander may relate to > the > Earl of Abercorn. Archibald m Frances Calhoun was b 1704, Laggen District. > > You were answering a query by someone who wrote 1/9/02 about a Robert b in > Co. Tyrone who married a Calhoun and had five children: Joseph, John, > David, > Charlotte and Catherine. David migrated to Philadelphia in 1783, Joseph > died > in Ireland without a family, John d in Egg Harbor, US (NJ?) leaving a wife > and 2 boys in Ireland. I am not sure how the answer related to the query > other than there may have been a Calhoun connection. > > You also mentioned in one of the e-mail's above that Frances Calhoun's > brother, John, was overseer at Baron's Court. Since you have equated A-1 > DNA > with Baron's Court Kincaids, I do think that Calhoun-Hamilton-Kincaid > connections may be worth looking into. I also feel that Martha Kincaid > Hamilton b 1716 was very closely connected to Thomas d 1750 on the Great > Calf Pasture and probably John the Weaver. > > Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xlsTo join the DNA project, go to:www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message