I have read some of the Hamilton Revolutionary War pension applications to look for relevant information, which I will post. Many of the Hamiltons were from Augusta Co, VA. This Major Andrew Hamilton was baptized in 1741 in Augusta County, VA by Rev. John Craig, and then moved to the in the Ninety- Six District of South Carolina by 1775, as indicated in his RW pension application. Hamilton family websites indicate that he was the son of Archibald Hamilton/Frances Calhoun. See statement #6 below...he was intimately known by John C Calhoun, vice president of the United States. Pension application of Andrew Hamilton S18000 Transcribed by Will Graves 7/27/09 http://www.southerncampaign.org/pen/s18000.pdf "That he entered the service of his country the United States as a Captain of a Volunteer company which was raised and organized for the protection and defense of the country at as early a period as the year 1775". "Applicant answers & says that he was born in Augusta County in the State of Virginia, and that he was baptized by the Reverend John Craig on the 17th day of July in the year 1741 in the State of Virginia Augusta County. -- Ans to 2nd Inty-- The Applicant says the only record he has of his age is a copy of the date of his baptism, which he took from the books of the Reverend John Craig in the State of Virginia. Ans to 3rd Inty-- The Applicant says that he was living in Ninety Six District in the State of South Carolina when he was called into the service of his country, that he has lived since the revolutionary war in the same State, and District, now called Abbeville District, where he now lives. – Ans to 4th Inty-- This Applicant answers & says, that he entered the service as a Volunteer and ended his service in the Revolutionary War throughout a volunteer, he was never drafted, & never was a substitute. – Ans to 5th Inty-- General Greene, Colonel Campbell, Colonel Williams, Colonel Lee, -- others the Applicant cannot now recollect -- the Applicant does not recollect much about the regiments of continentals, or Militia, this much he knows, that both kinds of troops were with him and fought hard at Eutaw, he knew Colonel Hammond, Colonel Washington & General Pickens at Eutaw. Ans to 6th Inty-- The Applicant is known to James Wardlaw, Esquire, Colonel Patrick Noble, Moses Taggart Esquire and to the greater part of the population of Abbeville District he is also intimately known to John C. Calhoun vice president of the United States, and to many" Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry This is the famous Calhoun family of early Augusta, Virginia>South Carolina. According to this family history, the ancestors were also Alexander Calhoun and Judith Hamilton. This Calhoun/Colhoun family has records in Chalkley's Chronicles. JAMES C (CALDWELL) CALHOUN American statesman and parliamentarian, was born, of Scottish-Irish descent, in Abbeville District, South Carolina, on the 18th of March 1782. His father, Patrick Calhoun, is said to have been born in Donegal, North Ireland, but to have left Ireland when a mere child. The family seems to have emigrated first to Pennsylvania, whence they removed, after Braddock's defeat, to Western Virginia. From Virginia they removed in 1756 to South Carolina and settled on Long Cane Creek, in Granville (now Abbeville) county. Patrick Calhoun attained some prominence in the colony, serving in the colonial legislature, and afterwards in the state legislature, and taking part in the War of Independence. In 1770 he had married Martha Caldwell, the daughter of another Scottish-Irish settler. Father: Patrick Calhoun (b. Northern Ireland) Mother: Martha Caldwell Wife: Floride Bouneau Calhoun (m. 1811) University: BA, Yale University (1804) Law School: Litchfield Law School, Litchfield, CT http://www.nndb.com/people/902/000043773/ ***************** Name James Patrick CALHOUN Birth1688, Newtownstewart (Crosh House), Tyrone, Ireland Death1741, Chestnut Level, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Patrick Calhoun was married to Catherine Montgomery. Father Reverand Alexander CALHOUN Mother Lady Judith HAMILTON Misc. Notes In Ireland, the Calhouns spelled their name Colhoun (Colquhoun in some records) before moving to the States. Patrick and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, after her Stewart children were grown. They landed either in New York or Philadelphia and moved to Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania, where they settled in the Chestnut Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta Co., Virginia. Misc. Notes Following the death of Alexander, Catherine remarried in 1713, in County Donegal, Ireland to James Patrick Calhoun, son of Reverand Alexander Calhoun and Lady Judith Hamilton. Patrick and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, after her Stewart children were grown. They landed at New York or Philadelphia and moved to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where they settled in the Chestnut Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta County, Virginia. In 1755 the Indians became more active and Catherine moved again to the Long Cane Creek area of Abbeville, South Carolina. They moved in the middle of winter and got there in February 1756. The place for a while was called North and South Forks of Calhoun Creek, where it joined the Little river. They were sixteen miles from the nearest Indian settlement and thought they would be safe there. The morning of January 31, 1760 a messenger came through the little settlement and told them that the Indians were on the warpath and moving toward their area. The afternoon of January 31st and the morning of February 1st were spent loading wagons and getting provisions ready to move out. About noon on February 1st, some 200-250 settlers moved out for Augusta, Georgia, a larger town about 40 miles southeast of their location. They had only gone about 10 miles when in crossing the Long Canes Creek, several wagons got stuck. By the time they had all the wagons across the creek it was dark so they camped for the night. Soon after dark, they were attacked by a band of Cherokee Indians. Some of the settlers escaped by horseback, some on foot, but most of them scattered finding shelter in the trees or where ever they could hide. Mostly women and children were killed as 23 settlers were left dead at the sign of the massacre. The Indians had burned all the wagons and nearly all the goods were stolen. In the group that was killed, Catherine Montgomery Stewart Calhoun was among them. She was 76 years old. A monument to the dead, including Catherine, was erected in the 1790’s by Catherine’s son, Patrick Calhoun. Two small girls, ages 3 and 5 of the Calhoun’s were abducted by the Indians. One eventually returned, but the other was never heard from again. More here: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~celiadon/ps05/ps05_141.htm Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry Thank you for the further information. Would widow Judith Calhoun Gorden have been another daughter of Rev Alexander/Judith Calhoun? This will take a bit of thinking to understand. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry Sue et al, In 2002, I was responding to the following post: ***** From: "Jeff Davis" <[email protected]> Subject: [KINCAID] Robert Kinkead Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:01:23 -0400 Can anyone identify or expand on any of the following?: Robert Kinkead was born in County Tyrone, Ireland of parents in common circumstances. He married a Calhoun, by whom he had five children: Joseph, John, David, Charlotte and Catherine, all of whom were born in County Tyrone, Ireland. David arrived in Philadelphia on the "Lazy Mary" in 1783. Joseph died in Ireland without a family. John died in Egg Harbor, U.S. (NJ?) leaving a wife and two boys in Ireland. ***** This seemed to be new information to me and I wondered what the source was. I noted that perhaps the Robert here was the Robert who was the Robert mentioned in the Will of Joseph Kinkead of Birnaghs, County Tyrone. However, in further discussions it was revealed that other family sources states that this family was from Dungarven, County Waterford. This made things inconclusive. I did not say that Joseph's son Robert married a Calhoun. The above did. Now with regards to my comment about Oval Calhoun account of a Charles Kinkead marrying a Helen Calhoun. Orval O. Calhoun writes the following in "800 Years of Colquhoun, Colhoun, Calhoun, and Cahoon Family History." Helen Colhoun, born c-1698, was the third daughter and the eigth child of Rev. Alexander & Judith Colhoun, and she married Charles Kincaid, and they lived at Strabane, County Tyrone, Ire. She had died before 1772, but Charles was still alive and living in one of the houses belonging to Rev. Alexander Colhoun Jr. in 1772, when he made the assignment of property over to his son Charles Colhoun, at the time of his coming of marriage. Orval Calhoun later quotes the agreement on page 357. It reads as follows: MSS of Arts & Agreement, Nov. 3-1772, between Rev. Alexander Colhoun of Sixmilecross, Co. Tyrone, for Charles Colhoun, Gent, Youngest son of Said Rev. Alexander Colhoun, & on behalf of Mary Anderson, a minor, daughter & only child of James Anderson; and James Anderson Esq. of Killashandra, Co. Cavan, and Rev. M. Galbraith, of the marraige shortly intended between Charles Colhoun and Mary Anderson, for £200 paid by James Anderson, Alexander Colhoun did grant, the house & Offices in the town of Strabane, then last in the possession of Charles Kinkaid, Merchant, the house & tenements in Strabane in possession of John S. Hamilton Esq., and after the decease of Judith (Colhoun) Gordon, Widow, house & tenement in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh, & property in Sixmilecross, then in possession of Said Rev. Alexander Colhoun, Charles Father, and after the decease of Said Alexander Colhoun and James Anderson, and their respective wives, Margaret Colhoun and Sophia Anderson, the Estates to descend to Said Charles Colhoun and Mary, His intended Wife. Now the age of Helen Calhoun places here contemporary with Old Charles Kinkead of Baronscourt. Orval states that he felt that Charles was still alive in 1772 based on the above record. My comment is that I think the Charles of the 1772 record was young Charles Kinkead (son of Robert) who was a merchant in Strabane and who failed business wise in 1769. Thus, Orval was mixing them up. HOWEVER, if Helen Calhoun, daughter of Rev. Alexander Calhoun, was married to a Charles Kinkead then this Charles must have been the old Charles Kinkead. Now going back to the Robert, father of the David of the Lazy Mary, noted above. There is no mention of a son Charles. Charles Kinkead, the son Robert of Baronscourt, was Robert's oldest son and heir. This makes me think the Robert, father of the David of the Lazy Mary was not the Robert of Baronscourt. Since 2002 I located a number of additional records which indicate that Robert of Baronscourt was married to a Mary and that he likely had a son David but this David was of Drumbeg, County Donegal and he died in 1771. I agree that figuring out these Baronscourt Kinkeads will be a great help to the DNA project as I believe many of the participants in the project tie directly into this extended family. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > Peter, thank you for county correction for Rev. Joseph. I will change it > on > the DNA chart (I am not sure how I got Downs on there in the first place), > for the clarification on the Charles who may have married Helen Calhoun > and > the location of the Laggan. I was going by your Oct 18, 2003 post on who > Charles was. I get confused easily in Ireland so went back to some old > notes > and I am still confused. > > When you are saying the Charles Kincaid who m Helen Calhoun was perhaps > the > son of Robert, are you refering to Charles of Strabane, the clockmaker, > whose business failed in 1769? You mentioned in a 2002 e-mail that you > thought that the Robert, who had a son Charles, might have himself married > a > Calhoun. Is this the same Robert-Charles connection? > > If I am reading what you have posted previously Strabane as well as > Baron's > Court were part of the Earl of Abercorn's holdings. On a list of "Scottish > Plantation Undertakers" the Earl of Abercorn is listed as James Hamilton. > Audley's father was supposedly an Alexander Hamilton b 1639/40 m Susannah > Harrison, d 1693 Ards, Co. Down. Audley was b 1677 Londonderry d. 1763 > Donegal Castle, Donegal. I am wondering how this Alexander may relate to > the > Earl of Abercorn. Archibald m Frances Calhoun was b 1704, Laggen District. > > You were answering a query by someone who wrote 1/9/02 about a Robert b in > Co. Tyrone who married a Calhoun and had five children: Joseph, John, > David, > Charlotte and Catherine. David migrated to Philadelphia in 1783, Joseph > died > in Ireland without a family, John d in Egg Harbor, US (NJ?) leaving a wife > and 2 boys in Ireland. I am not sure how the answer related to the query > other than there may have been a Calhoun connection. > > You also mentioned in one of the e-mail's above that Frances Calhoun's > brother, John, was overseer at Baron's Court. Since you have equated A-1 > DNA > with Baron's Court Kincaids, I do think that Calhoun-Hamilton-Kincaid > connections may be worth looking into. I also feel that Martha Kincaid > Hamilton b 1716 was very closely connected to Thomas d 1750 on the Great > Calf Pasture and probably John the Weaver. > > Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xlsTo join the DNA project, go to:www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Patrick (Calhoun) and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, > after her > Stewart children were grown. They landed either in New York or > Philadelphia > and moved to Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania, where they settled in the > Chestnut > Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved > her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta Co., > Virginia. The 1733 date corresponds with the April 29, 1733 departure from Belfast of the Ship Hope with Archibald Hamilton & wife Frances Calhoun and Andrew Hamilton & wife Martha Kinkead on it. I wonder who else was on that ship and if the manifest shows Patrick/Catherine? The probability is high that these couples also went to Chestnut Level (or close by) in Lancaster Co. before coming to Augusta Co. Thomas Kincaid/Margaret Lockhart bought land from James Lockridge very near Andrew Hamilton/Martha Kincaid on the Great Calf Pasture. >From "Chalkley's Cronicles" Kincaid vs Lockridge. "William Kinkead, an infant under the age of 21 years, son and heir-at-law of Thomas Kinkead, late of County of Augusta, by James Lockhard, his nest friend. Bill filed May, 1753. Thomas Kinkead, in 1747, removed from the Province of Pennsylvania with orator and Thomas's family. On November 19, 1747, Thomas bought 263a joining John Preston, Robert Lockridge, Robert Gwin in Augusta County. Thomas died in 1750 intestate, leaving a widow and ____ children. of whom orator is eldest. Bond of James Lockridge, of Augusta County, with Thomas Kinkead of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, dated 19th November, 1747" Since the "orator" was James Lockhart, who was representing William, the words "orator is eldest" is a bit confusing. I also think it strange that Thomas, who was "of Lancaster Co" in Nov. 1747 would have moved his family in the dead of winter without a shelter awaiting them. A more likely scenerio would have the actual removal from Lancaster Co. as soon as the roads were passable in the spring. The discrepancy may also be due to the year shift. Also the "orator" moved with Thomas' family. Does he mean Thomas' wife and children or perhaps one or more of Thomas' siblings. The actual transcript may shed more light. It is also confusing that James Lockridge actually bought half the 1040a (lot 17) surveyed for John Preston (who d Feb 1747/8) from P & L in 1748. In 1763 James Lockridge sold the other 260a of this half of lot 17 to a Moses McElvan who sold to Thomas Kincaid (between Wm Kincaid and Robert Gwinn). The other half of lot 17 derived to John Preston's son William who sold to his daughter Mary who in 1763 sold to Robert Lockridge who sold to David (Winnefred) and John (Elizabeth) in 1764. The Kincaids sold to Wm Meeter in 1770. (Note that this is the same year that John the Weaver started selling his GCP land). John the Clerk's land (bought in 1745 with the mortgage help of David) was lot 18. John the Clerk sold the lower half to John the Weaver in 1754. Andrew/Martha Kincaid Hamilton's land was not part of the P&L patent. It lay on a side stream very near lot 18. Andrew Hamilton was on road orders for the Calf Pasture in 1745. This is a nice little Kincaid nest lead by the Hamiltons and John the Clerk in 1745, followed shortly by Thomas in 1747/8 then John the Weaver in 1754. Since it is often the case that other members of a family would migrate together or shortly after a pioneering member, I am wondering if the Lockhart family lived in the Chestnut Level area of Lancaster Co. before coming to Augusta. If so, a working HYPOTHESIS may be that Thomas and Martha Kincaid Hamilton were siblings. A possible 3rd sibling may be John the Clerk or John the Weaver. Note that a hypothesis is only a direction for further study. It needs substantial work prior to any degree of certainty. The connection of Martha to the Hamilton family of Ards may be a valuable clue. Sue Liedtke

It appears, by the dates herein, that this Andrew Hamilton was not the son of Archibald Hamilton/Frances. Their son Andrew was in South Carolina in 1789. Page 347.--25th June, 1771. Henry Murray and Rosannah, of Rowan County, North Carolina, to Robert McCittrick, in Jennings Gap, 90 acres patented to said Henry, 3d May, 1763. Teste: Samuel Young, Wm.. Kinkead, Andrew Hamilton, Jno. Mcllvain, Thomas Cowan, Archibald Kinkead, Thos. Kinkead. Proved, 21st July, 1789, by Hamilton and Wm. and Archibald Kinkade. http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/augusta/court/3court58.txt Was the above Andrew Hamilton the son of Andrew Hamilton/Martha Kinkead? Andrew Hamilton, Sr.'s will: Page 260.--15th February, 1788. Andrew Hamilton's will, of the Calfpasture--To wife, Martha; to son, William; to son, Andrew; to each grandson named Andrew, 250 acres in Kentucky; to all my daughters; to sons William and Andrew, all books. Executors, son William and son-in-law Wm. Rennocks, wife Martha. Teste: Wm. Lockridge, Samuel Lockridge, Thos. Adams. Proved, 21st September, 1790, by the Lockridges. Hamilton and Wm. Renocks qualify. http://files.usgwarchives.org/va/augusta/court/3court18.txt Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry I have read some of the Hamilton Revolutionary War pension applications to look for relevant information, which I will post. Many of the Hamiltons were from Augusta Co, VA. This Major Andrew Hamilton was baptized in 1741 in Augusta County, VA by Rev. John Craig, and then moved to the in the Ninety- Six District of South Carolina by 1775, as indicated in his RW pension application. Hamilton family websites indicate that he was the son of Archibald Hamilton/Frances Calhoun. See statement #6 below...he was intimately known by John C Calhoun, vice president of the United States. Pension application of Andrew Hamilton S18000 Transcribed by Will Graves 7/27/09 http://www.southerncampaign.org/pen/s18000.pdf "That he entered the service of his country the United States as a Captain of a Volunteer company which was raised and organized for the protection and defense of the country at as early a period as the year 1775". "Applicant answers & says that he was born in Augusta County in the State of Virginia, and that he was baptized by the Reverend John Craig on the 17th day of July in the year 1741 in the State of Virginia Augusta County. -- Ans to 2nd Inty-- The Applicant says the only record he has of his age is a copy of the date of his baptism, which he took from the books of the Reverend John Craig in the State of Virginia. Ans to 3rd Inty-- The Applicant says that he was living in Ninety Six District in the State of South Carolina when he was called into the service of his country, that he has lived since the revolutionary war in the same State, and District, now called Abbeville District, where he now lives. – Ans to 4th Inty-- This Applicant answers & says, that he entered the service as a Volunteer and ended his service in the Revolutionary War throughout a volunteer, he was never drafted, & never was a substitute. – Ans to 5th Inty-- General Greene, Colonel Campbell, Colonel Williams, Colonel Lee, -- others the Applicant cannot now recollect -- the Applicant does not recollect much about the regiments of continentals, or Militia, this much he knows, that both kinds of troops were with him and fought hard at Eutaw, he knew Colonel Hammond, Colonel Washington & General Pickens at Eutaw. Ans to 6th Inty-- The Applicant is known to James Wardlaw, Esquire, Colonel Patrick Noble, Moses Taggart Esquire and to the greater part of the population of Abbeville District he is also intimately known to John C. Calhoun vice president of the United States, and to many" Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry This is the famous Calhoun family of early Augusta, Virginia>South Carolina. According to this family history, the ancestors were also Alexander Calhoun and Judith Hamilton. This Calhoun/Colhoun family has records in Chalkley's Chronicles. JAMES C (CALDWELL) CALHOUN American statesman and parliamentarian, was born, of Scottish-Irish descent, in Abbeville District, South Carolina, on the 18th of March 1782. His father, Patrick Calhoun, is said to have been born in Donegal, North Ireland, but to have left Ireland when a mere child. The family seems to have emigrated first to Pennsylvania, whence they removed, after Braddock's defeat, to Western Virginia. From Virginia they removed in 1756 to South Carolina and settled on Long Cane Creek, in Granville (now Abbeville) county. Patrick Calhoun attained some prominence in the colony, serving in the colonial legislature, and afterwards in the state legislature, and taking part in the War of Independence. In 1770 he had married Martha Caldwell, the daughter of another Scottish-Irish settler. Father: Patrick Calhoun (b. Northern Ireland) Mother: Martha Caldwell Wife: Floride Bouneau Calhoun (m. 1811) University: BA, Yale University (1804) Law School: Litchfield Law School, Litchfield, CT http://www.nndb.com/people/902/000043773/ ***************** Name James Patrick CALHOUN Birth1688, Newtownstewart (Crosh House), Tyrone, Ireland Death1741, Chestnut Level, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Patrick Calhoun was married to Catherine Montgomery. Father Reverand Alexander CALHOUN Mother Lady Judith HAMILTON Misc. Notes In Ireland, the Calhouns spelled their name Colhoun (Colquhoun in some records) before moving to the States. Patrick and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, after her Stewart children were grown. They landed either in New York or Philadelphia and moved to Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania, where they settled in the Chestnut Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta Co., Virginia. Misc. Notes Following the death of Alexander, Catherine remarried in 1713, in County Donegal, Ireland to James Patrick Calhoun, son of Reverand Alexander Calhoun and Lady Judith Hamilton. Patrick and Catherine took their children to America in 1733, after her Stewart children were grown. They landed at New York or Philadelphia and moved to Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where they settled in the Chestnut Level area. Around 1748, some time after Patrick’s death, Catherine moved her family to some new lands that were opening up in Augusta County, Virginia. In 1755 the Indians became more active and Catherine moved again to the Long Cane Creek area of Abbeville, South Carolina. They moved in the middle of winter and got there in February 1756. The place for a while was called North and South Forks of Calhoun Creek, where it joined the Little river. They were sixteen miles from the nearest Indian settlement and thought they would be safe there. The morning of January 31, 1760 a messenger came through the little settlement and told them that the Indians were on the warpath and moving toward their area. The afternoon of January 31st and the morning of February 1st were spent loading wagons and getting provisions ready to move out. About noon on February 1st, some 200-250 settlers moved out for Augusta, Georgia, a larger town about 40 miles southeast of their location. They had only gone about 10 miles when in crossing the Long Canes Creek, several wagons got stuck. By the time they had all the wagons across the creek it was dark so they camped for the night. Soon after dark, they were attacked by a band of Cherokee Indians. Some of the settlers escaped by horseback, some on foot, but most of them scattered finding shelter in the trees or where ever they could hide. Mostly women and children were killed as 23 settlers were left dead at the sign of the massacre. The Indians had burned all the wagons and nearly all the goods were stolen. In the group that was killed, Catherine Montgomery Stewart Calhoun was among them. She was 76 years old. A monument to the dead, including Catherine, was erected in the 1790’s by Catherine’s son, Patrick Calhoun. Two small girls, ages 3 and 5 of the Calhoun’s were abducted by the Indians. One eventually returned, but the other was never heard from again. More here: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~celiadon/ps05/ps05_141.htm Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry Thank you for the further information. Would widow Judith Calhoun Gorden have been another daughter of Rev Alexander/Judith Calhoun? This will take a bit of thinking to understand. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Baronscourt Kinkeads was Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry Sue et al, In 2002, I was responding to the following post: ***** From: "Jeff Davis" <[email protected]> Subject: [KINCAID] Robert Kinkead Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 10:01:23 -0400 Can anyone identify or expand on any of the following?: Robert Kinkead was born in County Tyrone, Ireland of parents in common circumstances. He married a Calhoun, by whom he had five children: Joseph, John, David, Charlotte and Catherine, all of whom were born in County Tyrone, Ireland. David arrived in Philadelphia on the "Lazy Mary" in 1783. Joseph died in Ireland without a family. John died in Egg Harbor, U.S. (NJ?) leaving a wife and two boys in Ireland. ***** This seemed to be new information to me and I wondered what the source was. I noted that perhaps the Robert here was the Robert who was the Robert mentioned in the Will of Joseph Kinkead of Birnaghs, County Tyrone. However, in further discussions it was revealed that other family sources states that this family was from Dungarven, County Waterford. This made things inconclusive. I did not say that Joseph's son Robert married a Calhoun. The above did. Now with regards to my comment about Oval Calhoun account of a Charles Kinkead marrying a Helen Calhoun. Orval O. Calhoun writes the following in "800 Years of Colquhoun, Colhoun, Calhoun, and Cahoon Family History." Helen Colhoun, born c-1698, was the third daughter and the eigth child of Rev. Alexander & Judith Colhoun, and she married Charles Kincaid, and they lived at Strabane, County Tyrone, Ire. She had died before 1772, but Charles was still alive and living in one of the houses belonging to Rev. Alexander Colhoun Jr. in 1772, when he made the assignment of property over to his son Charles Colhoun, at the time of his coming of marriage. Orval Calhoun later quotes the agreement on page 357. It reads as follows: MSS of Arts & Agreement, Nov. 3-1772, between Rev. Alexander Colhoun of Sixmilecross, Co. Tyrone, for Charles Colhoun, Gent, Youngest son of Said Rev. Alexander Colhoun, & on behalf of Mary Anderson, a minor, daughter & only child of James Anderson; and James Anderson Esq. of Killashandra, Co. Cavan, and Rev. M. Galbraith, of the marraige shortly intended between Charles Colhoun and Mary Anderson, for £200 paid by James Anderson, Alexander Colhoun did grant, the house & Offices in the town of Strabane, then last in the possession of Charles Kinkaid, Merchant, the house & tenements in Strabane in possession of John S. Hamilton Esq., and after the decease of Judith (Colhoun) Gordon, Widow, house & tenement in Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh, & property in Sixmilecross, then in possession of Said Rev. Alexander Colhoun, Charles Father, and after the decease of Said Alexander Colhoun and James Anderson, and their respective wives, Margaret Colhoun and Sophia Anderson, the Estates to descend to Said Charles Colhoun and Mary, His intended Wife. Now the age of Helen Calhoun places here contemporary with Old Charles Kinkead of Baronscourt. Orval states that he felt that Charles was still alive in 1772 based on the above record. My comment is that I think the Charles of the 1772 record was young Charles Kinkead (son of Robert) who was a merchant in Strabane and who failed business wise in 1769. Thus, Orval was mixing them up. HOWEVER, if Helen Calhoun, daughter of Rev. Alexander Calhoun, was married to a Charles Kinkead then this Charles must have been the old Charles Kinkead. Now going back to the Robert, father of the David of the Lazy Mary, noted above. There is no mention of a son Charles. Charles Kinkead, the son Robert of Baronscourt, was Robert's oldest son and heir. This makes me think the Robert, father of the David of the Lazy Mary was not the Robert of Baronscourt. Since 2002 I located a number of additional records which indicate that Robert of Baronscourt was married to a Mary and that he likely had a son David but this David was of Drumbeg, County Donegal and he died in 1771. I agree that figuring out these Baronscourt Kinkeads will be a great help to the DNA project as I believe many of the participants in the project tie directly into this extended family. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > Peter, thank you for county correction for Rev. Joseph. I will change it > on > the DNA chart (I am not sure how I got Downs on there in the first place), > for the clarification on the Charles who may have married Helen Calhoun > and > the location of the Laggan. I was going by your Oct 18, 2003 post on who > Charles was. I get confused easily in Ireland so went back to some old > notes > and I am still confused. > > When you are saying the Charles Kincaid who m Helen Calhoun was perhaps > the > son of Robert, are you refering to Charles of Strabane, the clockmaker, > whose business failed in 1769? You mentioned in a 2002 e-mail that you > thought that the Robert, who had a son Charles, might have himself married > a > Calhoun. Is this the same Robert-Charles connection? > > If I am reading what you have posted previously Strabane as well as > Baron's > Court were part of the Earl of Abercorn's holdings. On a list of "Scottish > Plantation Undertakers" the Earl of Abercorn is listed as James Hamilton. > Audley's father was supposedly an Alexander Hamilton b 1639/40 m Susannah > Harrison, d 1693 Ards, Co. Down. Audley was b 1677 Londonderry d. 1763 > Donegal Castle, Donegal. I am wondering how this Alexander may relate to > the > Earl of Abercorn. Archibald m Frances Calhoun was b 1704, Laggen District. > > You were answering a query by someone who wrote 1/9/02 about a Robert b in > Co. Tyrone who married a Calhoun and had five children: Joseph, John, > David, > Charlotte and Catherine. David migrated to Philadelphia in 1783, Joseph > died > in Ireland without a family, John d in Egg Harbor, US (NJ?) leaving a wife > and 2 boys in Ireland. I am not sure how the answer related to the query > other than there may have been a Calhoun connection. > > You also mentioned in one of the e-mail's above that Frances Calhoun's > brother, John, was overseer at Baron's Court. Since you have equated A-1 > DNA > with Baron's Court Kincaids, I do think that Calhoun-Hamilton-Kincaid > connections may be worth looking into. I also feel that Martha Kincaid > Hamilton b 1716 was very closely connected to Thomas d 1750 on the Great > Calf Pasture and probably John the Weaver. > > Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xlsTo join the DNA project, go to:www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message