The source you are particular on is not actually Chalkey. It is someone's family history given at: http://echandgs0.tripod.com/reynolds/id11.html The Chalkey part ends with Walkup. I don't see anything in Chalkeys that says the Kinkeads came from Londonderry. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > Read this part of the post which is speaking of Eleanor Guys father at the > beginning: > > If as stated William Guy came with the Kinkeads & others and as stated > Willima immigrated in 1739 it follows that the Kinkeads came in 1739. > > Don > > Came from Londonderry, Ireland to Philadelphia, Pa. Moved to Orange Co., >>> Va. with daughter, Eleanor. Came with the Kinkeads, Stevensons, >>> Campbells, McElroysm, McDowells, Grahams, Elliotts. Moved onto the >>> Borden >>> trat, now Rockbridge Co., Va., Lived at Gay's Run, Va. >>> ~~~ >>>>From the Gay/Guy Families of Early Augusta Co., Va. and related families >>>>of Dunlap, Kinkead/Kincaid, Lockridge, etc., etc.; "William immigrated >>>>October 19, 1739. Destination; Port of Philadelphia, Pa. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter A. Kincaid > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:35 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > > > I don't see anything in Lyman Chalkey's writings here > that the Kincaids came from Londonderry. He talks > about who went with him to Orange Co., Va. Furthermore, > in the absence of a quoted source he, writing in 1912, > would not be a source for a family arriving in the early > to mid 1700s. > > Peter > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > > > > My suggestion as to which Kincaids would be Thomas/Margaret Lockhart d > > 1750, > > John the Weaver and possibly Andrew/Isabella who bought land on Cubb > Creek > > in 1764 along with son Andrew Jr. (Andrew Jr is of Augusta Co. when he > > sells > > the land in 1770. There is an Andrew in Augusta Co.1752-4. Andrew & > > Isabella > > are very important names in the Capt. William/Eleanor Gay family). My > > hypothesis is that these 3 Kincaid elders plus David/Winnifred and > > James/Jean can account for all early Greater Augusta Co. A-1 Kincaids. > > > > Hamilton, Elliot, Walkup, Graham, Campbells and Gay are all associated > > with > > the Great and Little Calf Pasture Rivers in Augusta Co. Elliot and > Walkup > > were pretty much confined to the Little Calf Pasture. Hamiltons and > > Grahams > > appear on both Rivers. Campbells are on the Great Calf Pasture and in > > Albemarle Co. The families are closely woven together for several > > generations. Hamiltons, Elliots, Walkups, Grahams and Campbells all > show > > up > > in early Greenbrier Co. as well. > > > > The 1739 migration may be a secondary migration of these families as at > > least some of the Hamiltons arrived in 1733 on the Ship Hope. > > Archibald Hamilton Res. Ards County Downs with wife Frances > > Martha Hamilton unmarried age 17 > > Andrew Hamilton age 24 with wife Martha Kinkead Hamilton age 21 > > > > Andrew/Martha Hamilton owned land on the Great Calf Pasture near the > land > > of > > Rev John, John the Weaver and Thomas/Margaret Lockhart d 1750. > > Their daughter Isabella m Andrew, son of William/Eleanor Gay Kincaid. > > > > William/Eleanor Kincaid lived on land at the head of the Great Calf > > Pasture > > near land granted to William Preston in 1750 who sold to George > Campbell & > > Samuel/Margaret Campbell Tincher who sold to Thomas/Hannah Tincher > Kincaid > > in 1770. Hannah was dau of Samuel/Margaret Tincher. > > > > According to what I have gleaned from World Connect Archibald (m > Francis > > Calhoun), Martha and Andrew were children of Audley Harrison Hamilton b > > 1677, Londonderry IR d 1762 Donegal Castle, Donegal, IR. William/Alice > > Hamilton who owned land on the Little Calf Pasture is also Audley's > son. > > The > > Hamiltons were in Lancastor Co. PA prior to coming to Augusta Co. VA > > > > Little Calfpasture Grants > > 1749 William Gay, 490a and 410a. The latter is described as "on both > sides > > of the river c Wm Gay c Rev. Hindman. (rev. Hindman d prior 1762 as his > > nephews have the land c James Stevenson in that year. (the 2 grants may > be > > to father & son) > > > > 1754 Samuel Gay 354a c William Elliot c William Gay. In 1762 Sam is in > NC > > when he sells to James Gay. This deed must have been to clear up title > as > > James Gay sold the same land to David Martin in 1759. > > > > Barb posted information about this family March 18, 2010. > > Will of William Gay Jr. written 9 May 1755 > > Wife Margaret, eldest son John plantation George Campbell lives on, > > formerly > > held by James Stevenson, son Robert the plantation testator lives on. > > Daughter Mary, daughter Agnes. Execs, wife and brother John Gay. Teste: > > William Elliot, John Fulton, James Stevenson > > > > Margaret Gay supposedly m Alexander Hamilton 12 Nov, 1758, however, she > > appears to have been married to him before 16, Nov 1757 per the record > > below > > so the yr given for the marriage may be mis-recorded and should be > 1757. > > Margaret may have been a Walkup. In 1765 Alexander/Margaret Hamilton > sold > > 238a on Jackson River to William Hamilton, who in 1780 sold the land to > > Andrew/Mary Kincaid. Andrew/Mary were neighbors to Alexander Hamilton > on > > the > > Little Calf Pasture River in 1777.. > > > > The History of Woodford Co. KY says Wm, John, James, Robert, Samuel, > > Henry > > and Eleanor were the children of Wm Gay Sr. who fought in the Siege of > > Londonderry. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don W Kincaid" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:11 PM > > Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > > > > > >> While searching I found the below from Chalkey's Chronicles of the > >> Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia and wonder which Kinkeads he is > >> referring to in the 2nd paragraph. Since he states William Gay/Guy > >> immigrated in 1739 and that he came with the Kinkeads and other named > >> families, I suppose we could assume the Kinkeads immigrated in 1739 > also. > >> I am curious which Kinkeads he is referring to and since he stated > >> Kinkeads there must have been several, one of which would likely have > >> been > >> William Kinkead who married Eleanor Guy/Gay, ancestor of Bill Kinkead > # > >> 1426. Do Chalkley volumes show documentation for what he says. If so > >> perhaps the documents might show which Kinkead lines were involved. > The > >> date of 1739 fits will with my Joseph and son John first seen in > >> Albemarle > >> Co. VA records in mid 1740's. > >> > >> Don W. > >> > >> Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, Extracted from > the > >> Original Court Records of Augusta Co., 1745-1800, by Lyman Chalkley, > Vol. > >> 1, p. 78: Nov. 16, 1757: William Gay's estate to be settled and dower > >> assigned to the widow, Margaret Hamilton. p. 100: Aug. 3 1762; > >> Beverley's > >> Executors vs. John Gay and Wm. Hamilton and Margaret, his wife, late > >> Margaret Gay, Executor of Wm. Gay, decd. -- Agreed. p. 145: William > Gay, > >> orphan of Wm. Gay, deceased, to be bound to John Wahub (Walkup). > >> ~~~ > >> Came from Londonderry, Ireland to Philadelphia, Pa. Moved to Orange > Co., > >> Va. with daughter, Eleanor. Came with the Kinkeads, Stevensons, > >> Campbells, McElroysm, McDowells, Grahams, Elliotts. Moved onto the > >> Borden > >> trat, now Rockbridge Co., Va., Lived at Gay's Run, Va. > >> ~~~ > >>>From the Gay/Guy Families of Early Augusta Co., Va. and related > families > >>>of Dunlap, Kinkead/Kincaid, Lockridge, etc., etc.; "William immigrated > >>>October 19, 1739. Destination; Port of Philadelphia, Pa. William's > will > >>>was probated in Augusta Co., Va. on August 20, 1755. > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> To join the DNA project, go to: > >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > To join the DNA project, go to: > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message