Was there a particular document that gives Andrew Hamilton's wife as Martha Kinkead? Or was this someone assuming she was a Kinkead because they were neighbours. I have seen references to a passenger list of 1733 (Ship Hope) but the same information is given for what may be interpreted as a passenger list of 1775 (Charming Molly). See: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/rhamilton/robship.htm Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] RW pension application of William Hamilton/IsabelClemens > Yes. There were 2 William Hamiltons in Greenbrier at the same time. Capt > Wm > was the son of Andrew/Martha Kinkead. He lived in the Muddy Creek area. > > The other was son of William/Alice Hamilton of the Little Calf Pasture > River > and brother to Andrew whose Greenbrier Co. 1796 will and subsequent court > cases establish the siblings of Andrew and the deposition of the 1,100a > survey mentioned below. > Greenbrier Co. VA > 15 Sep 1788. Wm Hamilton power of Att to Andrew Hamilton on account of any > estate inhertance in State of PA and as heir of his father Wm Hamilton > decd. > 3 Sep 1810 Wm & Ruth Hamilton of Boon Co. KY 320a to Andrew Hamilton of > Boone Co. (note: Andrew is this couples son) > 26 Nov. 1810 Andrew of Boon Co. KY 304a to John Vachub e side of > Greenbrier > River adj. Anthoy Bowen, John Byrd & Geo Lavisay-- part of 1,100a survey > made for Andrew Hamilton dcd in 1775. Above 304a willed to Wm Hamilton. > > Sue Liedtke >
This list of ships departing in 1775 shows that the 'Charming Molly' left from Dover, not Belfast. Ship Arrivals / Departures at Ports in England, 1775 This information was extracted from Lloyd's Evening Post (which used the old form of the letters). http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/ships1775.html Possibly the correct information with the name of the ship and date of departure is on the page that is missing, i.e. the page previous to the Andrew Hamilton, Martha Kinkead Hamilton, Archibald Hamilton names that are shown on the top of this page. http://www.angelfire.com/folk/rhamilton/robship.htm Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Peter A. Kincaid Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] RW pension application of WilliamHamilton/IsabelClemens Was there a particular document that gives Andrew Hamilton's wife as Martha Kinkead? Or was this someone assuming she was a Kinkead because they were neighbours. I have seen references to a passenger list of 1733 (Ship Hope) but the same information is given for what may be interpreted as a passenger list of 1775 (Charming Molly). See: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/rhamilton/robship.htm Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] RW pension application of William Hamilton/IsabelClemens > Yes. There were 2 William Hamiltons in Greenbrier at the same time. Capt > Wm > was the son of Andrew/Martha Kinkead. He lived in the Muddy Creek area. > > The other was son of William/Alice Hamilton of the Little Calf Pasture > River > and brother to Andrew whose Greenbrier Co. 1796 will and subsequent court > cases establish the siblings of Andrew and the deposition of the 1,100a > survey mentioned below. > Greenbrier Co. VA > 15 Sep 1788. Wm Hamilton power of Att to Andrew Hamilton on account of any > estate inhertance in State of PA and as heir of his father Wm Hamilton > decd. > 3 Sep 1810 Wm & Ruth Hamilton of Boon Co. KY 320a to Andrew Hamilton of > Boone Co. (note: Andrew is this couples son) > 26 Nov. 1810 Andrew of Boon Co. KY 304a to John Vachub e side of > Greenbrier > River adj. Anthoy Bowen, John Byrd & Geo Lavisay-- part of 1,100a survey > made for Andrew Hamilton dcd in 1775. Above 304a willed to Wm Hamilton. > > Sue Liedtke > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Peter, The url leads to a charming picture labeled Screensaver???? It would indeed help if the the whole Ship Hope passenger list was available so we could see for ourselves what was actually written. This was posted by Barb on April 8, 2005 and is from The Hamilton Family GenForum, March 25, 2005, message #9939. The reference given is: Immigrant list of Ships Passengers Outgoing Book 10 page 302 1733-35 Ship Hope. Master Robert Coatham Owner, Coweds Shipping Line London and Copenhagen Date of 29 Apr. 1733 last from Belfast 168 passengers 118 Males over 21 23 females 18 and over, 10 females under 16, 17 children under 10 years #110 Archibald Hamilton Res. Ards County Downs #111 Wife Frances #112 Martha Hamilton Unmarried Age 17 Andrew Hamilton age 24 #113 wife Martha Kinkead Hamilton age 21 (note that the number 113 might be misplaced. Andrew should be 113 and Martha 114 if the pattern were to hold) I would be suspicious of the 1775 date as Archibald/Frances are in Augusta Co. quite a bit before that. He wrote his Augusta Co. will in 1787 naming wife Frances. Children: William, John, Audley, Andrew, Archibald and a dau m to John Cunningham. Martha Hamilton (#112 above) m James Henderson in 1738. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] RW pension application of William Hamilton/IsabelClemens > > Was there a particular document that gives Andrew Hamilton's > wife as Martha Kinkead? Or was this someone assuming she > was a Kinkead because they were neighbours. > > I have seen references to a passenger list of 1733 (Ship Hope) > but the same information is given for what may be interpreted as > a passenger list of 1775 (Charming Molly). > > See: http://www.angelfire.com/folk/rhamilton/robship.htm > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:15 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] RW pension application of William > Hamilton/IsabelClemens > > >> Yes. There were 2 William Hamiltons in Greenbrier at the same time. Capt >> Wm >> was the son of Andrew/Martha Kinkead. He lived in the Muddy Creek area. >> >> The other was son of William/Alice Hamilton of the Little Calf Pasture >> River >> and brother to Andrew whose Greenbrier Co. 1796 will and subsequent court >> cases establish the siblings of Andrew and the deposition of the 1,100a >> survey mentioned below. >> Greenbrier Co. VA >> 15 Sep 1788. Wm Hamilton power of Att to Andrew Hamilton on account of >> any >> estate inhertance in State of PA and as heir of his father Wm Hamilton >> decd. >> 3 Sep 1810 Wm & Ruth Hamilton of Boon Co. KY 320a to Andrew Hamilton of >> Boone Co. (note: Andrew is this couples son) >> 26 Nov. 1810 Andrew of Boon Co. KY 304a to John Vachub e side of >> Greenbrier >> River adj. Anthoy Bowen, John Byrd & Geo Lavisay-- part of 1,100a survey >> made for Andrew Hamilton dcd in 1775. Above 304a willed to Wm Hamilton. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >