Hellooooooooo - Thanks so, so much for worrying about my family and I, pleased to be able to tell you we are all safe and well here in Queensland. Well I finally have internet & electricity back on after we lost it in a storm last Monday that saw a major landslip blocking one of the two access roads from where we live - still I can't complain as that's all we 'lost', and so many thousands of others are today in Queensland wading through thick sticky smelly sludge trying to clean out their homes etc without power or even running water - can you imagine that anywhere, let alone in a capital city !! Over the past few weeks our hearts have gone to the victims of the floods way up north - how quickly things can change. Those not directly affected all know someone who is, but it's so great to see people randomly helping - even our youth !!! It's very heartening today in Brisbane city as 'armies' of volunteers have taken up their own shovels, buckets and brooms to help total strangers clear the mud and rubbish from their flooded homes - and it's raining today. The whole state is rallying together, doing what we Queenslanders do - we've an enormous clean up ahead, not just people's homes and lives but with major infrastructure to repair, business to rebuild, schools to be made ready for the kids after their summer break due to return in a couple of weeks. So while jobs have been lost on a positive note, it's creating jobs for those willing - my partner has been already asked to reschedule his work and he and my son (his apprentice)Marty Kincaid are off to Toowoomba next week to rip up and replace the sodden floor coverings for a couple of major business up there so that they can operate again, and in turn that helps rebuild the community. I guess it's going to be another year where I don't get to see them much - well, Marty has certainly been thrown head first into the trade, what better way to learn than under pressure! I'm also hoping my office in the South Bank parklands is cleaned and has electricity etc ready by Monday week so I can process the payroll for them !! I'm secretary of our local volunteer wildlife group and we will be working closely with Wildcare Australia as there is an enormous strain on the animal carers with influx of injured native animals, some poor creatures having travelled many kilometres with the flood water and survived, though with horrible injuries. So sad. The next few weeks will tell how our roads and railways have fared once the water has fully receded, major highways have been cut due to not only the water on the roads, but now its receding the damage that's been done is becoming apparent, and this will of course stop or hinder the supply of food, petrol, building materials, we're all praying mother nature is kind to us for the remainder of the wet season - but again, on a positive note the death toll, whilst tragic is not as devastating as it could have been, and houses can always be cleaned or rebuilt. After all family is everything, and you cannot replace them (no matter how much they get on your nerves sometimes). Hoping you've all got warm socks and snug toes ! Cheers, Lesley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 5:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 Today's Topics: 1. Floods in Australia (Barbara Van Hout) 2. Re: Floods in Australia (Don W Kincaid) 3. Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry (Sue Liedtke) 4. Re: roll call (Ronald Kincaid) 5. Re: roll call (Barbara Van Hout) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:02:54 -0500 From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> Subject: [KINCAID] Floods in Australia To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone heard recently from Lesley Cains of Australia? Does she live in the flooded areas? Her last message to the list was on Dec. 18. Barbara ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:29:55 -0700 From: "Don W Kincaid" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Floods in Australia To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It looks like Lesley lives in a higher elevation area South of Brisbane. Grant Kinkead lives around 3,000 KM away from Brisbane. We hope Queensland weather changes! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:02 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Floods in Australia Has anyone heard recently from Lesley Cains of Australia? Does she live in the flooded areas? Her last message to the list was on Dec. 18. Barbara To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:23:42 -0800 From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Peter, thank you for county correction for Rev. Joseph. I will change it on the DNA chart (I am not sure how I got Downs on there in the first place), for the clarification on the Charles who may have married Helen Calhoun and the location of the Laggan. I was going by your Oct 18, 2003 post on who Charles was. I get confused easily in Ireland so went back to some old notes and I am still confused. When you are saying the Charles Kincaid who m Helen Calhoun was perhaps the son of Robert, are you refering to Charles of Strabane, the clockmaker, whose business failed in 1769? You mentioned in a 2002 e-mail that you thought that the Robert, who had a son Charles, might have himself married a Calhoun. Is this the same Robert-Charles connection? If I am reading what you have posted previously Strabane as well as Baron's Court were part of the Earl of Abercorn's holdings. On a list of "Scottish Plantation Undertakers" the Earl of Abercorn is listed as James Hamilton. Audley's father was supposedly an Alexander Hamilton b 1639/40 m Susannah Harrison, d 1693 Ards, Co. Down. Audley was b 1677 Londonderry d. 1763 Donegal Castle, Donegal. I am wondering how this Alexander may relate to the Earl of Abercorn. Archibald m Frances Calhoun was b 1704, Laggen District. You were answering a query by someone who wrote 1/9/02 about a Robert b in Co. Tyrone who married a Calhoun and had five children: Joseph, John, David, Charlotte and Catherine. David migrated to Philadelphia in 1783, Joseph died in Ireland without a family, John d in Egg Harbor, US (NJ?) leaving a wife and 2 boys in Ireland. I am not sure how the answer related to the query other than there may have been a Calhoun connection. You also mentioned in one of the e-mail's above that Frances Calhoun's brother, John, was overseer at Baron's Court. Since you have equated A-1 DNA with Baron's Court Kincaids, I do think that Calhoun-Hamilton-Kincaid connections may be worth looking into. I also feel that Martha Kincaid Hamilton b 1716 was very closely connected to Thomas d 1750 on the Great Calf Pasture and probably John the Weaver. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > Sorry but I hit send before I intended (a call interrupted > me) and I did not finish my train of thought. I wanted to > add that many of the more well to do families moved > around as part of marriage arrangements or to acquire > better holdings (i.e. leases or appointments). So the > ties between Donegal/Tyrone and Down is nothing > unusual in that context. The so called Martha > Kinkead could have been from either place and > until a record surfaces tying her to a particular > family we may never know. Ireland is quite a poor > place with regards to records before the mid 1800s. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > > >> You have the information on Rev. Joseph Kinkead >> wrong. He was born in County Donegal about >> 1724 in Drumboy, County Donegal and died on >> 20 July 1782 in Killinchy, County Donegal. His >> family was not from County Down. They were >> from County Donegal. As a minister he migrated >> to Killinchy. The Baronscourt Kinkeads have >> family roots and connections also in County Donegal. >> >> The Laggan District is in east County Donegal roughly >> between Inch (west of Londerry) in the north and >> Stranorlar in the south. The Rev. Joseph Kinkead >> and his family were considered to have been from >> the Laggan District. >> >> I have yet to find any supporting record for the >> marriage of Charles Kinkead and Helen Calhoun. >> This is secondary information and I believe the >> source is Orval Calhoun and his "800 Years of >> Colquhoun, Colhoun, Calhoun, and Cahoon Family >> History." He does not give a source for the marriage >> and the information he did provide on Charles Kinkead >> makes me think he was mixing up Charles Kinkead >> younger (son of Robert) with Charles Kinkead Sr. >> >> When it comes to Ireland it is not always just the >> locale the person was from but more the Lord >> they held land under or their family connections. >> Many simply moved around >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry >> >> >>> Captain William Kinkead b 1736 married Eleanor Gay Nov 30, 1756 in >>> Augusta >>> Co. VA. The families may well have been aquainted before arriving in VA >>> but >>> there is no indication that the families were anywhere close in Ireland. >>> I >>> agree with June Mefford Kinkead that the Londonderry story was passed >>> down >>> from Eleanor's side of the family. >>> >>> I think more of a clue for the Augusta/Albemarle A-1 Kincaids may come >>> from >>> the 1733 Hamilton migration which includes a Kincaid daughter because >>> Hamiltons and Kincaids did interact in Ireland, are quite close in >>> Augusta >>> Co. with some indication that the Hamiltons and at least one Kincaid >>> went >>> first to Lancastor Co. PA before coming to Augusta. Thomas d 1750 was >>> "of >>> Lancastor Co. PA" when he bought the Great Calf Pasture land near >>> Andrew/Martha Kincaid Hamilton in 1747. Andrew Hamilton was living on >>> his >>> GCP land in 1745 (per road orders) when John the Clerk, with the >>> mortgage >>> help of David Kincaid, bought land practically next door. >>> >>> Arrived in 1733 on the Ship Hope. >>> Archibald Hamilton Res. Ards County Downs with wife Frances >>> Martha Hamilton unmarried age 17 >>> Andrew Hamilton age 24 with wife Martha Kinkead Hamilton age 21 >>> >>> Archibald Hamilton's father Audley was b 1677 Laggan District (is that >>> Co. >>> Tyrone??), Ireland. According to a listing of his children's birth's he >>> moved to Ards from Laggans between 1706 and 1709. He died 1762 in Ards. >>> This >>> suggests that Archibald was living in Ards when he married Francis >>> Calhaun >>> and Andrew was living in Ards when he married Martha Kinkead. That >>> doesn't >>> necessarily mean Francis and Martha were also living in Ards when they >>> married but if not then there may be a close tie between Francis and >>> Martha, >>> i.e. perhaps Martha came to visit and fell in love. Remember that >>> Frances' >>> brother John was at Baron's court and her sister Helen m Charles >>> Kincaid. >>> Frances' father's 1st cousin was John Lewis whose wife's sister was >>> married >>> to Henry Patten and living in Co. Tyrone in 1692 when their son James >>> Patten >>> was born. John Lewis & James Patten were granted the land John the Clerk >>> and >>> Thomas Kincaid bought. Then we have 2617 (A-1) who believes descent from >>> Rev >>> Joseph b 1724 Co. Downs, d 1782 Co. Tyrone showing that there were A-1 >>> Kincaids in those counties as well as Hamiltons. >>> >>> In the above connections there are possible reasons why the Hamiltons >>> and >>> Kincaids migrated when and where they did. Finding the father of Martha >>> Kincaid might be quite constructive in sorting Augusta Co. Kincaids. >>> >>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry >>> >>> >>>> The problem with about 4 miles from Londonderry >>>> is that it does not tell you which direction to head. >>>> Sample 1256's line is from Londonderry with the >>>> story in the family that they came from 3 miles outside >>>> of Londonderry. Same problem - which way. >>>> Sample 1256 is lined up with my Kincaids who are >>>> on record from County Londonderry. >>>> >>>> If we look to the DNA for Captain William Kinkead >>>> then we have a reputed descendant in sample 1426. >>>> He is not closely matched to sample 1256 or the >>>> other Londonderry Kincaids in his group. On the other >>>> hand, closely matching sample 1426 is sample 94749 >>>> which ties back to Muff Parish, County Donegal; >>>> about 6 miles north of Londonderry. >>>> >>>> Best wishes! >>>> >>>> Peter >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:15:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Ronald Kincaid" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Connelsville PA is located in Fayette County. Ron K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call Hi, Ron, What county is Connelsville in? Sincerely Norman Kincaide --- On Thu, 1/6/11, Ronald Kincaid <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Ronald Kincaid <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 3:18 AM > > Roll Call. > > Ron Kincaid b: 08/09/1936 - > > I was born in Connelsville PA and lived in western PA till > 1989 when I moved > to Minnesota. > > My father, George Kincaid was born in Connelsville, PA, > 03/20/1906 > > My G. Grandfather, Joseph Richard Kincaid was born in > Morgantown, WV, > 08/27/1879 > > My G. G. Grandfather, John Wesley Kincaid was born in > Morgantown, WV, > 08/30/1860 > > My G. G. G. Grandfather, James Wesley Kincaid was born in > Morgantown, WV, > 04/27/1839 > > My G. G. G. G, Grandfather, Richard Joseph was born in > Ireland around 1790. > This deduced from the 1810 cencus taken for Monogalia > County WV ( then the > state of VA). > > Grandfather Joseph Kincaid mved from Morgantown to > Connelsville PA due to > his working for the then B&O Railroad. > Connelsville was a teminus for the > railroad at that time. > > For some time now I have been trying to establish a link > between Richard > Joseph and Ireland and have been unsuccesful to date. > I have closely > watched all the links that have been presented on this > rootsweb and have > even written to Peter but all to no avail. > > Ron Kincaid, Coon Rapids, MN > ,> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in > Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls > > > > To join the DNA project, go to: > > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3356 - Release > Date: 01/03/11 > 07:34:00 > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xlsTo join the DNA project, go to:www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027---------- ---------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message--------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/1107:33:00 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:07:16 -0500 From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original There are records for a Joseph Kincaid in this book of records for Monongalia County, (West) Virginia, one with the date of 1805 for Joseph. P. 93 in this book has a record for James Kinkade and David Kinkaid in 1803. There is also another record for David Kinkaid in 1797. http://books.google.com/books?id=DpqzdsPAMIEC&pg=PA307&lpg=PA307&dq=%22Josep h+Kincaid%22+%2B+Monongalia&source=bl&ots=DC41eMc8or&sig=L5J9VeJQxhq3lJJKFKX P82MT7KQ&hl=en&ei=45gwTf2dD47EsAPR_KS1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnu m=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Joseph%20Kincaid%22%20%2B%20Monongalia&f= false ********************** This next book for Monongalia County has records for Phillip Patterson/Paterson who married Nancy Kincaid in 1809 in Monongalia County. There are also more Kincaid/Kinkaid records. A William Kinkade and wife Mary sell/give 62 acres to John Kinkade. There are records for Joseph using the 'Kincade' spelling. His wife's name was Mary...see p. 84. There is a record for Moses Kincade on p. 84. I didn't see David Kincaid mentioned in this group of records, which are dated a few years later than in the above book. Too many records to list are under the 'Kincaid' spelling. http://books.google.com/books?id=hVFB0680b1UC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=%22Joseph+Ki ncaid%22+%2B+Monongalia&source=bl&ots=-VaGXr9AMf&sig=Hw-WV52nQHSbCm1JnDcrK0V Kzxo&hl=en&ei=45gwTf2dD47EsAPR_KS1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8& ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=snippet&q=Patterson&f=false Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Kincaid Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call > Roll Call. Ron Kincaid b: 08/09/1936 - I was born in Connelsville PA and lived in western PA till 1989 when I moved to Minnesota. My father, George Kincaid was born in Connelsville, PA, 03/20/1906 My G. Grandfather, Joseph Richard Kincaid was born in Morgantown, WV, 08/27/1879 My G. G. Grandfather, John Wesley Kincaid was born in Morgantown, WV, 08/30/1860 My G. G. G. Grandfather, James Wesley Kincaid was born in Morgantown, WV, 04/27/1839 My G. G. G. G, Grandfather, Richard Joseph was born in Ireland around 1790. This deduced from the 1810 cencus taken for Monogalia County WV ( then the state of VA). Grandfather Joseph Kincaid mved from Morgantown to Connelsville PA due to his working for the then B&O Railroad. Connelsville was a teminus for the railroad at that time. For some time now I have been trying to establish a link between Richard Joseph and Ireland and have been unsuccesful to date. I have closely watched all the links that have been presented on this rootsweb and have even written to Peter but all to no avail. Ron Kincaid, Coon Rapids, MN ,> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Thank you for the update. News reports are by necessity selective so a first hand account from someone there is very interesting. I am so glad you and your family are alright. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Cains" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 > Hellooooooooo - Thanks so, so much for worrying about my family and I, > pleased to be able to tell you we are all safe and well here in > Queensland. > > Well I finally have internet & electricity back on after we lost it in a > storm last Monday that saw a major landslip blocking one of the two access > roads from where we live - still I can't complain as that's all we 'lost', > and so many thousands of others are today in Queensland wading through > thick > sticky smelly sludge trying to clean out their homes etc without power or > even running water - can you imagine that anywhere, let alone in a capital > city !! Over the past few weeks our hearts have gone to the victims of the > floods way up north - how quickly things can change. Those not directly > affected all know someone who is, but it's so great to see people randomly > helping - even our youth !!! It's very heartening today in Brisbane city > as > 'armies' of volunteers have taken up their own shovels, buckets and brooms > to help total strangers clear the mud and rubbish from their flooded > homes - > and it's raining today. > > The whole state is rallying together, doing what we Queenslanders do - > we've > an enormous clean up ahead, not just people's homes and lives but with > major > infrastructure to repair, business to rebuild, schools to be made ready > for > the kids after their summer break due to return in a couple of weeks. So > while jobs have been lost on a positive note, it's creating jobs for those > willing - my partner has been already asked to reschedule his work and he > and my son (his apprentice)Marty Kincaid are off to Toowoomba next week to > rip up and replace the sodden floor coverings for a couple of major > business > up there so that they can operate again, and in turn that helps rebuild > the > community. I guess it's going to be another year where I don't get to see > them much - well, Marty has certainly been thrown head first into the > trade, > what better way to learn than under pressure! I'm also hoping my office in > the South Bank parklands is cleaned and has electricity etc ready by > Monday > week so I can process the payroll for them !! > > I'm secretary of our local volunteer wildlife group and we will be working > closely with Wildcare Australia as there is an enormous strain on the > animal > carers with influx of injured native animals, some poor creatures having > travelled many kilometres with the flood water and survived, though with > horrible injuries. So sad. > > The next few weeks will tell how our roads and railways have fared once > the > water has fully receded, major highways have been cut due to not only the > water on the roads, but now its receding the damage that's been done is > becoming apparent, and this will of course stop or hinder the supply of > food, petrol, building materials, we're all praying mother nature is kind > to > us for the remainder of the wet season - but again, on a positive note the > death toll, whilst tragic is not as devastating as it could have been, and > houses can always be cleaned or rebuilt. After all family is everything, > and > you cannot replace them (no matter how much they get on your nerves > sometimes). > > Hoping you've all got warm socks and snug toes ! > Cheers, Lesley > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 5:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Floods in Australia (Barbara Van Hout) > 2. Re: Floods in Australia (Don W Kincaid) > 3. Re: Kinkeads from Londonderry (Sue Liedtke) > 4. Re: roll call (Ronald Kincaid) > 5. Re: roll call (Barbara Van Hout) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:02:54 -0500 > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> > Subject: [KINCAID] Floods in Australia > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Has anyone heard recently from Lesley Cains of Australia? Does she live > in > the flooded areas? Her last message to the list was on Dec. 18. > > Barbara > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:29:55 -0700 > From: "Don W Kincaid" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Floods in Australia > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It looks like Lesley lives in a higher elevation area South of Brisbane. > Grant Kinkead lives around 3,000 KM away from Brisbane. We hope Queensland > weather changes! > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:02 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Floods in Australia > > > Has anyone heard recently from Lesley Cains of Australia? Does she live > in the flooded areas? Her last message to the list was on Dec. 18. > > Barbara > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:23:42 -0800 > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Peter, thank you for county correction for Rev. Joseph. I will change it > on > the DNA chart (I am not sure how I got Downs on there in the first place), > for the clarification on the Charles who may have married Helen Calhoun > and > the location of the Laggan. I was going by your Oct 18, 2003 post on who > Charles was. I get confused easily in Ireland so went back to some old > notes > > and I am still confused. > > When you are saying the Charles Kincaid who m Helen Calhoun was perhaps > the > son of Robert, are you refering to Charles of Strabane, the clockmaker, > whose business failed in 1769? You mentioned in a 2002 e-mail that you > thought that the Robert, who had a son Charles, might have himself married > a > > Calhoun. Is this the same Robert-Charles connection? > > If I am reading what you have posted previously Strabane as well as > Baron's > Court were part of the Earl of Abercorn's holdings. On a list of "Scottish > Plantation Undertakers" the Earl of Abercorn is listed as James Hamilton. > Audley's father was supposedly an Alexander Hamilton b 1639/40 m Susannah > Harrison, d 1693 Ards, Co. Down. Audley was b 1677 Londonderry d. 1763 > Donegal Castle, Donegal. I am wondering how this Alexander may relate to > the > > Earl of Abercorn. Archibald m Frances Calhoun was b 1704, Laggen District. > > You were answering a query by someone who wrote 1/9/02 about a Robert b in > Co. Tyrone who married a Calhoun and had five children: Joseph, John, > David, > > Charlotte and Catherine. David migrated to Philadelphia in 1783, Joseph > died > > in Ireland without a family, John d in Egg Harbor, US (NJ?) leaving a wife > and 2 boys in Ireland. I am not sure how the answer related to the query > other than there may have been a Calhoun connection. > > You also mentioned in one of the e-mail's above that Frances Calhoun's > brother, John, was overseer at Baron's Court. Since you have equated A-1 > DNA > > with Baron's Court Kincaids, I do think that Calhoun-Hamilton-Kincaid > connections may be worth looking into. I also feel that Martha Kincaid > Hamilton b 1716 was very closely connected to Thomas d 1750 on the Great > Calf Pasture and probably John the Weaver. > > Sue Liedtke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry > > >> Sorry but I hit send before I intended (a call interrupted >> me) and I did not finish my train of thought. I wanted to >> add that many of the more well to do families moved >> around as part of marriage arrangements or to acquire >> better holdings (i.e. leases or appointments). So the >> ties between Donegal/Tyrone and Down is nothing >> unusual in that context. The so called Martha >> Kinkead could have been from either place and >> until a record surfaces tying her to a particular >> family we may never know. Ireland is quite a poor >> place with regards to records before the mid 1800s. >> >> Best wishes! >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry >> >> >>> You have the information on Rev. Joseph Kinkead >>> wrong. He was born in County Donegal about >>> 1724 in Drumboy, County Donegal and died on >>> 20 July 1782 in Killinchy, County Donegal. His >>> family was not from County Down. They were >>> from County Donegal. As a minister he migrated >>> to Killinchy. The Baronscourt Kinkeads have >>> family roots and connections also in County Donegal. >>> >>> The Laggan District is in east County Donegal roughly >>> between Inch (west of Londerry) in the north and >>> Stranorlar in the south. The Rev. Joseph Kinkead >>> and his family were considered to have been from >>> the Laggan District. >>> >>> I have yet to find any supporting record for the >>> marriage of Charles Kinkead and Helen Calhoun. >>> This is secondary information and I believe the >>> source is Orval Calhoun and his "800 Years of >>> Colquhoun, Colhoun, Calhoun, and Cahoon Family >>> History." He does not give a source for the marriage >>> and the information he did provide on Charles Kinkead >>> makes me think he was mixing up Charles Kinkead >>> younger (son of Robert) with Charles Kinkead Sr. >>> >>> When it comes to Ireland it is not always just the >>> locale the person was from but more the Lord >>> they held land under or their family connections. >>> Many simply moved around >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry >>> >>> >>>> Captain William Kinkead b 1736 married Eleanor Gay Nov 30, 1756 in >>>> Augusta >>>> Co. VA. The families may well have been aquainted before arriving in VA >>>> but >>>> there is no indication that the families were anywhere close in >>>> Ireland. >>>> I >>>> agree with June Mefford Kinkead that the Londonderry story was passed >>>> down >>>> from Eleanor's side of the family. >>>> >>>> I think more of a clue for the Augusta/Albemarle A-1 Kincaids may come >>>> from >>>> the 1733 Hamilton migration which includes a Kincaid daughter because >>>> Hamiltons and Kincaids did interact in Ireland, are quite close in >>>> Augusta >>>> Co. with some indication that the Hamiltons and at least one Kincaid >>>> went >>>> first to Lancastor Co. PA before coming to Augusta. Thomas d 1750 was >>>> "of >>>> Lancastor Co. PA" when he bought the Great Calf Pasture land near >>>> Andrew/Martha Kincaid Hamilton in 1747. Andrew Hamilton was living on >>>> his >>>> GCP land in 1745 (per road orders) when John the Clerk, with the >>>> mortgage >>>> help of David Kincaid, bought land practically next door. >>>> >>>> Arrived in 1733 on the Ship Hope. >>>> Archibald Hamilton Res. Ards County Downs with wife Frances >>>> Martha Hamilton unmarried age 17 >>>> Andrew Hamilton age 24 with wife Martha Kinkead Hamilton age 21 >>>> >>>> Archibald Hamilton's father Audley was b 1677 Laggan District (is that >>>> Co. >>>> Tyrone??), Ireland. According to a listing of his children's birth's he >>>> moved to Ards from Laggans between 1706 and 1709. He died 1762 in Ards. >>>> This >>>> suggests that Archibald was living in Ards when he married Francis >>>> Calhaun >>>> and Andrew was living in Ards when he married Martha Kinkead. That >>>> doesn't >>>> necessarily mean Francis and Martha were also living in Ards when they >>>> married but if not then there may be a close tie between Francis and >>>> Martha, >>>> i.e. perhaps Martha came to visit and fell in love. Remember that >>>> Frances' >>>> brother John was at Baron's court and her sister Helen m Charles >>>> Kincaid. >>>> Frances' father's 1st cousin was John Lewis whose wife's sister was >>>> married >>>> to Henry Patten and living in Co. Tyrone in 1692 when their son James >>>> Patten >>>> was born. John Lewis & James Patten were granted the land John the >>>> Clerk >>>> and >>>> Thomas Kincaid bought. Then we have 2617 (A-1) who believes descent >>>> from >>>> Rev >>>> Joseph b 1724 Co. Downs, d 1782 Co. Tyrone showing that there were A-1 >>>> Kincaids in those counties as well as Hamiltons. >>>> >>>> In the above connections there are possible reasons why the Hamiltons >>>> and >>>> Kincaids migrated when and where they did. Finding the father of Martha >>>> Kincaid might be quite constructive in sorting Augusta Co. Kincaids. >>>> >>>> Sue Liedtke >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:40 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads from Londonderry >>>> >>>> >>>>> The problem with about 4 miles from Londonderry >>>>> is that it does not tell you which direction to head. >>>>> Sample 1256's line is from Londonderry with the >>>>> story in the family that they came from 3 miles outside >>>>> of Londonderry. Same problem - which way. >>>>> Sample 1256 is lined up with my Kincaids who are >>>>> on record from County Londonderry. >>>>> >>>>> If we look to the DNA for Captain William Kinkead >>>>> then we have a reputed descendant in sample 1426. >>>>> He is not closely matched to sample 1256 or the >>>>> other Londonderry Kincaids in his group. On the other >>>>> hand, closely matching sample 1426 is sample 94749 >>>>> which ties back to Muff Parish, County Donegal; >>>>> about 6 miles north of Londonderry. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes! >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:15:02 -0600 (CST) > From: "Ronald Kincaid" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Connelsville PA is located in Fayette County. > > Ron K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call > > > Hi, Ron, > > What county is Connelsville in? > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > --- On Thu, 1/6/11, Ronald Kincaid <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Ronald Kincaid <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 3:18 AM >> > Roll Call. >> >> Ron Kincaid b: 08/09/1936 - >> >> I was born in Connelsville PA and lived in western PA till >> 1989 when I moved >> to Minnesota. >> >> My father, George Kincaid was born in Connelsville, PA, >> 03/20/1906 >> >> My G. Grandfather, Joseph Richard Kincaid was born in >> Morgantown, WV, >> 08/27/1879 >> >> My G. G. Grandfather, John Wesley Kincaid was born in >> Morgantown, WV, >> 08/30/1860 >> >> My G. G. G. Grandfather, James Wesley Kincaid was born in >> Morgantown, WV, >> 04/27/1839 >> >> My G. G. G. G, Grandfather, Richard Joseph was born in >> Ireland around 1790. >> This deduced from the 1810 cencus taken for Monogalia >> County WV ( then the >> state of VA). >> >> Grandfather Joseph Kincaid mved from Morgantown to >> Connelsville PA due to >> his working for the then B&O Railroad. >> Connelsville was a teminus for the >> railroad at that time. >> >> For some time now I have been trying to establish a link >> between Richard >> Joseph and Ireland and have been unsuccesful to date. >> I have closely >> watched all the links that have been presented on this >> rootsweb and have >> even written to Peter but all to no avail. >> >> Ron Kincaid, Coon Rapids, MN >> ,> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in >> Excel: >> > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls >> > >> > To join the DNA project, go to: >> > >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3356 - Release >> Date: 01/03/11 >> 07:34:00 >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xlsTo join the DNA project, go > to:www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027---------- > ---------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotesin the subject and the body of the > message--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----------No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - > www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: > 01/08/1107:33:00 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:07:16 -0500 > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > There are records for a Joseph Kincaid in this book of records for > Monongalia County, (West) Virginia, one with the date of 1805 for Joseph. > > P. 93 in this book has a record for James Kinkade and David Kinkaid in > 1803. > There is also another record for David Kinkaid in 1797. > > http://books.google.com/books?id=DpqzdsPAMIEC&pg=PA307&lpg=PA307&dq=%22Josep > h+Kincaid%22+%2B+Monongalia&source=bl&ots=DC41eMc8or&sig=L5J9VeJQxhq3lJJKFKX > P82MT7KQ&hl=en&ei=45gwTf2dD47EsAPR_KS1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnu > m=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Joseph%20Kincaid%22%20%2B%20Monongalia&f= > false > > ********************** > This next book for Monongalia County has records for Phillip > Patterson/Paterson who married Nancy Kincaid in 1809 in Monongalia County. > There are also more Kincaid/Kinkaid > records. A William Kinkade and wife Mary sell/give 62 acres to John > Kinkade. > > There are records for Joseph using the 'Kincade' spelling. His wife's > name > was Mary...see p. 84. > There is a record for Moses Kincade on p. 84. I didn't see David Kincaid > mentioned in this group of records, which are dated a few years later than > in the above book. > > Too many records to list are under the 'Kincaid' spelling. > > http://books.google.com/books?id=hVFB0680b1UC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=%22Joseph+Ki > ncaid%22+%2B+Monongalia&source=bl&ots=-VaGXr9AMf&sig=Hw-WV52nQHSbCm1JnDcrK0V > Kzxo&hl=en&ei=45gwTf2dD47EsAPR_KS1BQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8& > ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=snippet&q=Patterson&f=false > > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronald Kincaid > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:18 PM > To: [email protected]m > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] roll call > >> Roll Call. > > Ron Kincaid b: 08/09/1936 - > > I was born in Connelsville PA and lived in western PA till 1989 when I > moved > to Minnesota. > > My father, George Kincaid was born in Connelsville, PA, 03/20/1906 > > My G. Grandfather, Joseph Richard Kincaid was born in Morgantown, WV, > 08/27/1879 > > My G. G. Grandfather, John Wesley Kincaid was born in Morgantown, WV, > 08/30/1860 > > My G. G. G. Grandfather, James Wesley Kincaid was born in Morgantown, WV, > 04/27/1839 > > My G. G. G. G, Grandfather, Richard Joseph was born in Ireland around > 1790. > This deduced from the 1810 cencus taken for Monogalia County WV ( then the > state of VA). > > Grandfather Joseph Kincaid mved from Morgantown to Connelsville PA due to > his working for the then B&O Railroad. Connelsville was a teminus for the > railroad at that time. > > For some time now I have been trying to establish a link between Richard > Joseph and Ireland and have been unsuccesful to date. I have closely > watched all the links that have been presented on this rootsweb and have > even written to Peter but all to no avail. > > Ron Kincaid, Coon Rapids, MN > ,> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3356 - Release Date: 01/03/11 > 07:34:00 > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 > ************************************** > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >