<< as I think he is the John with wife Margaret who bought Great Calf Pasture land from John the Weaver in 1770 and sold it in 1785. >> Yes, and probably JtW's son as well, as the record is for John Sr. is to John Jr. and deeded exactly 1 day before a deed to Andrew, and exactly 1 year before he deeds land to sons James and Mathew. The deed to John Jr. shares a corner with known son Mathew (d. 1775), and Andrew shares a corner with known son James. It's too bad the word son is missing from two of the deeds, as it would clear up a lot. AUG 08/20/1770 C3-504(536) Deed book 16. John ( ) Kinkead, Sr., and Elizabeth ( ) to John Kinkead, Jr., L40, 88 acres, part of 530 acres conveyed to John Kinkead by John Kinkead, clerk 10/17/54, on Calfpasture River; corner Mathew Kinkead. AUG 08/21/1770 C3-503(495)# Deed book 16. John ( ) Kinkead and Elizabeth ( ) to Andrew Kinkead, L40, 106 acres on Great Calfpasture, part of 530 acres conveyed to John Kinkead by John Kinkead, clerk, 17th October, 1754. Delivered: Jno. Kinkead, 21st February, 1776. AUG 08/20/1771 C3-513(383)# John ( ) Kinkead and Elizabeth ( ) to Mathew Kinkead, his son, L40, 230 acres on Great Calfpasture, said Andrew's corner. Delivered: David Kinkead, August, 1784. AUG 08/20/1771 C3-513(387)# Same to James Kinkead, their son, L40, 106 acres on Great Calfpasture, part of 530 acres; corner Andrew Kinkead's part of said tract. and of course the entry about "what they have already have got to be their share of my estate" in the 1801 will of John of Bath, who I still contend is the same man as JtW. BAT 07/02/1801 WB-1 ( ) Film 0030602. Will of John Kinkead dated July 2nd, 1801, was presented and proved in court at Bath County in April, 1813. Abstract follows: [excerpt from will] ITEM: I will and bequeath unto my four sons, Andrew, John, Robert and James, five dollars each together with what they have already have got to be their share of my estate, -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:22 AM To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] [SPAM]Re: Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June LeeMeffordKinkead > The John and Margaret with son William (wife Elizabeth) refered to died in > 1817 naming 6 adult children (including an Archibald) and a grandson by a > deceased daughter so he wouldn't be the John b 1784. > > "Our Kentucky Home" suggests this John may be a nephew to Capt. William > but > I think perhaps a brother or cousin might be better age wise as I think he > is the John with wife Margaret who bought Great Calf Pasture land from > John > the Weaver in 1770 and sold it in 1785. The name Archibald appears in 2 > other GCP families. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Kinkead" <mbkinkead@cox.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:39 AM > Subject: [SPAM]Re: [KINCAID] Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June Lee > MeffordKinkead > > >> Page 35 of "Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry", notes that Capt. William's >> son, John, was born 12/25/1784, and on 3/22/1809, he married Margaret >> Trotter Blackburn. They had a son William, William Bury (Berry) Kinkead, >> born 12/31/1809. He married Elizabeth Wickliff. Subsequently, he married >> Elizabeth Fontaine Shelby. No further "evidence" is given. >> >> This seems to match the "William" in the question below. It should be >> remembered that The Kinkead family has a leaning toward "William" and >> very >> often, the particular one in question seems to get confused with one of >> the many others. >> >> William Kinkead, (Sixth after Capt. William) >> >> >> On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:03 AM, John Kinkead wrote: >> >>> >>> Does anyone own a copy of "Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry" by June Lee >>> Mefford Kinkead? >>> >>> It's cited as a source that William Kinkead, son of John/Margaret >>> Kinkead >>> of Woodford County was married to an Elizabeth. >>> >>> I'm curious to know what evidence is given for Elizabeth being the >>> spouse >>> of William. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> John >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dennis, I'm given to understand that *IF* I am descended from JtW (and it appears that is a very real possibility, although there are other possibilities as well), then given my DNA results and those of vetted DNA descendents of JoB, that would preclude them from being the same person. Does anyone disagree with that? It seems to me that in order for JtW = JoB, then my John/Margaret could NOT be the son of JtW and is another John/Margaret altogether. Maybe someone with more DNA understanding could weigh in. Thanks, John (#241829) > From: dhouse95@earthlink.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:38:50 -0500 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] [SPAM]Re: Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June LeeMeffordKinkead > > << as I think he is the John with wife Margaret who bought Great Calf > Pasture land from John the Weaver in 1770 and sold it in 1785. >> > > Yes, and probably JtW's son as well, as the record is for John Sr. is to > John Jr. and deeded exactly 1 day before a deed to Andrew, and exactly 1 > year before he deeds land to sons James and Mathew. The deed to John Jr. > shares a corner with known son Mathew (d. 1775), and Andrew shares a corner > with known son James. It's too bad the word son is missing from two of the > deeds, as it would clear up a lot. > > AUG 08/20/1770 C3-504(536) Deed book 16. John ( ) Kinkead, Sr., and > Elizabeth ( ) to John Kinkead, Jr., L40, 88 acres, part of 530 acres > conveyed to John Kinkead by John Kinkead, clerk 10/17/54, on Calfpasture > River; corner Mathew Kinkead. > > AUG 08/21/1770 C3-503(495)# Deed book 16. John ( ) Kinkead and Elizabeth ( ) > to Andrew Kinkead, L40, 106 acres on Great Calfpasture, part of 530 acres > conveyed to John Kinkead by John Kinkead, clerk, 17th October, 1754. > Delivered: Jno. Kinkead, 21st February, 1776. > > AUG 08/20/1771 C3-513(383)# John ( ) Kinkead and Elizabeth ( ) to Mathew > Kinkead, his son, L40, 230 acres on Great Calfpasture, said Andrew's corner. > Delivered: David Kinkead, August, 1784. > > AUG 08/20/1771 C3-513(387)# Same to James Kinkead, their son, L40, 106 acres > on Great Calfpasture, part of 530 acres; corner Andrew Kinkead's part of > said tract. > > and of course the entry about "what they have already have got to be their > share of my estate" in the 1801 will of John of Bath, who I still contend > is the same man as JtW. > > > BAT 07/02/1801 WB-1 ( ) Film 0030602. Will of John Kinkead dated July > 2nd, 1801, was presented and proved in court at Bath County in April, 1813. > Abstract follows: > > [excerpt from will] > > ITEM: I will and bequeath unto my four sons, Andrew, John, Robert and James, > five dollars each together with what they have already have got to be their > share of my estate, > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:22 AM > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] [SPAM]Re: Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June > LeeMeffordKinkead > > > The John and Margaret with son William (wife Elizabeth) refered to died in > > 1817 naming 6 adult children (including an Archibald) and a grandson by a > > deceased daughter so he wouldn't be the John b 1784. > > > > "Our Kentucky Home" suggests this John may be a nephew to Capt. William > > but > > I think perhaps a brother or cousin might be better age wise as I think he > > is the John with wife Margaret who bought Great Calf Pasture land from > > John > > the Weaver in 1770 and sold it in 1785. The name Archibald appears in 2 > > other GCP families. > > > > Sue Liedtke > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Kinkead" <mbkinkead@cox.net> > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:39 AM > > Subject: [SPAM]Re: [KINCAID] Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June Lee > > MeffordKinkead > > > > > >> Page 35 of "Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry", notes that Capt. William's > >> son, John, was born 12/25/1784, and on 3/22/1809, he married Margaret > >> Trotter Blackburn. They had a son William, William Bury (Berry) Kinkead, > >> born 12/31/1809. He married Elizabeth Wickliff. Subsequently, he married > >> Elizabeth Fontaine Shelby. No further "evidence" is given. > >> > >> This seems to match the "William" in the question below. It should be > >> remembered that The Kinkead family has a leaning toward "William" and > >> very > >> often, the particular one in question seems to get confused with one of > >> the many others. > >> > >> William Kinkead, (Sixth after Capt. William) > >> > >> > >> On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:03 AM, John Kinkead wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Does anyone own a copy of "Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry" by June Lee > >>> Mefford Kinkead? > >>> > >>> It's cited as a source that William Kinkead, son of John/Margaret > >>> Kinkead > >>> of Woodford County was married to an Elizabeth. > >>> > >>> I'm curious to know what evidence is given for Elizabeth being the > >>> spouse > >>> of William. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> John > >>> > >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >>> > >>> www.kincaiddna.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >> > >> www.kincaiddna.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That being said, to perhaps further confuse the issue, at least two of John/Margaret's children married in Bath County and perhaps as many as four or five. The sons named in John/Margaret's will are Thomas, James, Joseph, Archibald, William and John. James married Jean Curry in 1791 in Bath by Rev. John Montgomery. Archibald married Nancy Quarles in 1792 in Woodford County, KY. He's verifiable as the son of John/Margaret. Joseph married Nancy Dickenson in 1795 in Bath. He's verifiable as the son of John/Margaret. Thomas married Susannah Hull before 1800, location unknown. William married Elizabeth Fawcett in 1804 in Bath by Rev. John Montgomery. He's verifiable as the son of John/Margaret. John married Lucy Woodson Railey in 1819 in Woodford County, KY (probably a second marriage). > From: johnkinkead@hotmail.com > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:34:18 -0500 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] [SPAM]Re: Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June LeeMeffordKinkead > > > Dennis, I'm given to understand that *IF* I am descended from JtW (and it appears that is a very real possibility, although there are other possibilities as well), then given my DNA results and those of vetted DNA descendents of JoB, that would preclude them from being the same person. > > Does anyone disagree with that? > > It seems to me that in order for JtW = JoB, then my John/Margaret could NOT be the son of JtW and is another John/Margaret altogether. > > Maybe someone with more DNA understanding could weigh in. > > Thanks, > John (#241829) > > > > From: dhouse95@earthlink.net > > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:38:50 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] [SPAM]Re: Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June LeeMeffordKinkead > > > > << as I think he is the John with wife Margaret who bought Great Calf > > Pasture land from John the Weaver in 1770 and sold it in 1785. >> > > > > Yes, and probably JtW's son as well, as the record is for John Sr. is to > > John Jr. and deeded exactly 1 day before a deed to Andrew, and exactly 1 > > year before he deeds land to sons James and Mathew. The deed to John Jr. > > shares a corner with known son Mathew (d. 1775), and Andrew shares a corner > > with known son James. It's too bad the word son is missing from two of the > > deeds, as it would clear up a lot. > > > > AUG 08/20/1770 C3-504(536) Deed book 16. John ( ) Kinkead, Sr., and > > Elizabeth ( ) to John Kinkead, Jr., L40, 88 acres, part of 530 acres > > conveyed to John Kinkead by John Kinkead, clerk 10/17/54, on Calfpasture > > River; corner Mathew Kinkead. > > > > AUG 08/21/1770 C3-503(495)# Deed book 16. John ( ) Kinkead and Elizabeth ( ) > > to Andrew Kinkead, L40, 106 acres on Great Calfpasture, part of 530 acres > > conveyed to John Kinkead by John Kinkead, clerk, 17th October, 1754. > > Delivered: Jno. Kinkead, 21st February, 1776. > > > > AUG 08/20/1771 C3-513(383)# John ( ) Kinkead and Elizabeth ( ) to Mathew > > Kinkead, his son, L40, 230 acres on Great Calfpasture, said Andrew's corner. > > Delivered: David Kinkead, August, 1784. > > > > AUG 08/20/1771 C3-513(387)# Same to James Kinkead, their son, L40, 106 acres > > on Great Calfpasture, part of 530 acres; corner Andrew Kinkead's part of > > said tract. > > > > and of course the entry about "what they have already have got to be their > > share of my estate" in the 1801 will of John of Bath, who I still contend > > is the same man as JtW. > > > > > > BAT 07/02/1801 WB-1 ( ) Film 0030602. Will of John Kinkead dated July > > 2nd, 1801, was presented and proved in court at Bath County in April, 1813. > > Abstract follows: > > > > [excerpt from will] > > > > ITEM: I will and bequeath unto my four sons, Andrew, John, Robert and James, > > five dollars each together with what they have already have got to be their > > share of my estate, > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:22 AM > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] [SPAM]Re: Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June > > LeeMeffordKinkead > > > > > The John and Margaret with son William (wife Elizabeth) refered to died in > > > 1817 naming 6 adult children (including an Archibald) and a grandson by a > > > deceased daughter so he wouldn't be the John b 1784. > > > > > > "Our Kentucky Home" suggests this John may be a nephew to Capt. William > > > but > > > I think perhaps a brother or cousin might be better age wise as I think he > > > is the John with wife Margaret who bought Great Calf Pasture land from > > > John > > > the Weaver in 1770 and sold it in 1785. The name Archibald appears in 2 > > > other GCP families. > > > > > > Sue Liedtke > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bill Kinkead" <mbkinkead@cox.net> > > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:39 AM > > > Subject: [SPAM]Re: [KINCAID] Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry by June Lee > > > MeffordKinkead > > > > > > > > >> Page 35 of "Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry", notes that Capt. William's > > >> son, John, was born 12/25/1784, and on 3/22/1809, he married Margaret > > >> Trotter Blackburn. They had a son William, William Bury (Berry) Kinkead, > > >> born 12/31/1809. He married Elizabeth Wickliff. Subsequently, he married > > >> Elizabeth Fontaine Shelby. No further "evidence" is given. > > >> > > >> This seems to match the "William" in the question below. It should be > > >> remembered that The Kinkead family has a leaning toward "William" and > > >> very > > >> often, the particular one in question seems to get confused with one of > > >> the many others. > > >> > > >> William Kinkead, (Sixth after Capt. William) > > >> > > >> > > >> On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:03 AM, John Kinkead wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Does anyone own a copy of "Our Kentucky Pioneer Ancestry" by June Lee > > >>> Mefford Kinkead? > > >>> > > >>> It's cited as a source that William Kinkead, son of John/Margaret > > >>> Kinkead > > >>> of Woodford County was married to an Elizabeth. > > >>> > > >>> I'm curious to know what evidence is given for Elizabeth being the > > >>> spouse > > >>> of William. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> John > > >>> > > >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > >>> > > >>> www.kincaiddna.org > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > >> > > >> www.kincaiddna.org > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message