Ah, I see what you're saying. I guess I assumed that it already been proven that the Robert who died ~1795 was the husband of Anna Helena. I based the birth year before 1741 based on the approximate ages of the children, particularly Robert and Isaiah who were born about 1765. Regardless of whether or not the wife is Anna Helena, this Robert appears to be a possible brother to Capt. William. Both Robert and William have sons named Andrew, which also fits with your belief (mine as well) that Capt. William is the son of an Andrew. > From: seleaml@actionnet.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:35:03 -0800 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > The problem in the lineage is proving that Robert d c1795 (note that Isaiah > is adm Robert's estate by then) in Rockbridge Co. is Robert/Anna Helena of > Beverly Manor in Augusta Co. While the timing of Robert/Anna Helena's sale > of the last of the Beverly Manor land (1770) would allow for Robert of > Rockbridge (selling 550a in Rockbridge to Samuel Davis in 1778) to be the > same man, I have seen nothing indicating the name of Rockbridge Robert's > wife so equating the two Roberts is pure conjecture (though I personally > believe it a strong possibility). Perhaps finding the 1778 deed would be of > help or perhaps the writer of this lineage knows something we don't.. > > I am wondering where the 1741 date came from for either Roberts' year of > birth. Robert/Anna Helena buy the Beverly Manor land in 1763 so this date is > plausible but he also could be older. There is a Robert Kincaid not found in > 1748 Augusta Co. taxes. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Kinkead" <johnkinkead@hotmail.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:12 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > > > > > I've recently found some interesting family ties between Robert/Anna > > Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay and was curious what the group made > > of it. > > > > ***** > > > > SOURCES: > > > >>From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 > > J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) > > "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, > > Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." > > > >>From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 > > JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) > > "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., > > at Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and > > was granted in 1845 a license to practice..." > > > > ***** > > > > LINEAGE: > > > > Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna > > Helena > > Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena > > George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead > > > > Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) > > Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) > > > > The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and > > William/Eleanor being brothers. > > > > If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph > > C Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead > > (1811-1877). > > > > ***** > > > > For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary > > Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. > > > > Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. > > 1824 Rockbridge Co. VA > > +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH > > 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. > > 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY > > 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 > > Christian Co. KY > > 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA > > d. 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH > > 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown > > 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 > > Lexington, VA > > 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 > > Chicago, IL > > 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown > > 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, IN > > > > All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in > > the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that > > time. > > > > Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor ended > > up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. > > William ended up. > > > > Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & > > Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also > > don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message