Sue, there were TWO Isaiah Kinkeads in Rockbridge/ RBR 08/07/1783 RM-118( ) Isaiah Kincaid m. Mary Berryhill. bond or license date only. Isaiah, son of Robert. NOTE: a Berryhill genealogy website (http://www.berryhill.org/berryhill.htm) gives her name as "Polly", daughter of John Berryhill, or Ireland and Va. The same document mentions James and Isaiah Kincaid (as sons of Polly) receiving land in Polly's brother John Berryhill's will, which was written in 1825 and recorded January 2, 1826 at Lexington, Va. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:53 AM To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > Note the use of "uncle" in the relationship of JC Skeen and Judge Kincaid > (do you know for a fact that this is Joseph B?). In the lineage you give, > the 2 would be 1st cousins. It would suggest that Judge Kincaid may have > been a son of Isaiah rather than a grandson. I do know that the words > "uncle" and "aunt" are sometimes used to indicate an older relative, not > necessarily the sibling of a parent, as my grandmother's 1st cousin > referred > to her as "Aunt" and the children of my nieces (1st cousins) use "Aunt & > Uncle" when referring to each others parents but the possibility that the > reference is actually to a parent's brother needs to be eliminated. . > > There isn't a Robert in Isaiah's will. Where did Robert as father of > Joseph > B. and son of Isaiah come from? If Robert died prior to Isaiah there > should > be a reference to "heirs of Robert" in the will or there would be a > possibility that the will could have been broken. Getting the actual will > would be of help. > > The 2 problems above occur in other lineages so it may be interesting to > have a discussion on them.. > 1. Does the use of the titles "Uncle & Aunt" actually define the so > designated as sibling of a parent or was it used more broadly to define an > older relative? > > 2. How strictly was the mention of all children or heirs of a deceased > child > adhered to in early wills? Are there examples where an unmentioned heir > actually broke the will? > > Sue Liedtke >> >>>From "A History of Rockbridge County": >> >> Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, >> Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), William, >> James. >> >>> SOURCES: >>> >>> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 >>> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) >>> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, >>> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >>> >>> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 >>> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) >>> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, >>> Esq., >>> at >>> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and >>> was >>> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." >>> >>> ***** >>> >>> LINEAGE: >>> >>> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > >>> Robert/Anna >>> Helena >>> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena >>> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead >>> >>> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) >>> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) >>> >>> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and >>> William/Eleanor being brothers. >>> >>> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and >>> Joseph >>> C >>> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead >>> (1811-1877). >>> >>> ***** >>> >>> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary >>> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. >>> >>> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>> 1824 >>> Rockbridge Co. VA >>> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH >>> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. >>> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY >>> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 >>> Christian Co. KY >>> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA >>> d. >>> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH >>> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown >>> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 >>> Lexington, VA >>> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>> 1/9/1881 >>> Chicago, IL >>> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown >>> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, >>> IN >>> >>> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named >>> in >>> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that >>> time. >>> >>> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor >>> ended >>> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. >>> William >>> ended up. >>> >>> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & >>> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also >>> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Evidently Isaiah/Mary Berryhill's will names son Isaiah which supports the information in John Berryhill's will. It doesn't name a son Robert. As indicated in the lineage given for Joseph Byson. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis House" <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > Sue, there were TWO Isaiah Kinkeads in Rockbridge/ > > RBR 08/07/1783 RM-118( ) Isaiah Kincaid m. Mary Berryhill. bond or > license date only. Isaiah, son of Robert. > > NOTE: a Berryhill genealogy website > (http://www.berryhill.org/berryhill.htm) gives her name as "Polly", > daughter > of John Berryhill, or Ireland and Va. The same document mentions James and > Isaiah Kincaid (as sons of Polly) receiving land in Polly's brother John > Berryhill's will, which was written in 1825 and recorded January 2, 1826 > at > Lexington, Va. > > > >>> Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, >>> Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), >>> William, >>> James. >>> >>>> SOURCES: >>>> >>>> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 >>>> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) >>>> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in >>>> Louisville, >>>> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >>>> >>>> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 >>>> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) >>>> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, >>>> Esq., >>>> at >>>> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and >>>> was >>>> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." >>>> >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> LINEAGE: >>>> >>>> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > >>>> Robert/Anna >>>> Helena >>>> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena >>>> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead >>>> >>>> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) >>>> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) >>>> >>>> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and >>>> William/Eleanor being brothers. >>>> >>>> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and >>>> Joseph >>>> C >>>> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead >>>> (1811-1877). >>>> >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary >>>> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. >>>> >>>> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>>> 1824 >>>> Rockbridge Co. VA >>>> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH >>>> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. >>>> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY >>>> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 >>>> Christian Co. KY >>>> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. >>>> VA >>>> d. >>>> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH >>>> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown >>>> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 >>>> Lexington, VA >>>> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>>> 1/9/1881 >>>> Chicago, IL >>>> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown >>>> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, >>>> IN >>>> >>>> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named >>>> in >>>> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor >>>> ended >>>> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. >>>> William >>>> ended up. >>>> >>>> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & >>>> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also >>>> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. >>>> >>>> >>>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >>>> project, >>>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>>> >>>> www.kincaiddna.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >>>> project, >>>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>>> >>>> www.kincaiddna.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >