Ha, yes, Martha would have been born about 1797 in Bath Co. VA. Here’s the source for the children of Joseph Kinkead. From Woodford County, Kentucky - Will Book L (1826-1828): “Indenture made 15 Sep 1827 between Isaac Whittington, Deputy Sheriff for Thomas Stevenson, Sheriff of Woodford County, of the one part, and John U Waring, of the other part, whereas an execution of the Woodford County Court office on 30 Aug 1827, in favor of John U Waring against the heirs and administrators of Joseph Kinkead, dec'd for the sum of $300, with interest, and the said heirs nor said administrator having no personal estate, he levied the same upon the interest of the said heirs in a tract of land descended to their ancestor by their grandfather, John Kinkead, dec'd, which was valued to $60, and upon their interest in some ground in the Town of Versailles adjoining the public square, being part of the public square as conveyed to said Joseph Kinkead, dec'd, and part of Lots No 124 and No 5 in said town, being all the remaining ground not heretofore conveyed from the said Kinkead and which by his death was cast upon his heirs. The tracts sold at public auction, where the said John U Waring was the highest bidder for the lands. Now the said Whittington conveys to the said John U Waring all the right, title, and interest of the said heirs of the said Joseph Kinkead, dec'd in the 40 acres of land lying upon Lees Branch and described in the will of the said John Kinkead, dec'd and to the ground in Versailles, said execution is against John D Kinkead, adm of Jos Kinkead, and as one of the co-heirs with Nancy Kinkead, widow of the said Joseph Kinkead, dec'd, and William Kinkead, Thomas Kinkead, Adam Kinkead, Margaret Kinkead, and Nancy Kinkead, children and co-heirs of the said Joseph Kinkead, dec'd. Isaac Whittington, DS for Thos Stevenson, SWC” From: Deanne Kincaid Sent: ‎December‎ ‎12‎, ‎2012 ‎3‎:‎49‎ ‎PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads in Arkansas Thank you go all the recent info on AR Kinkeads. One question though. Martha Kinkead born in 1805 and then married in 1815. I'm hoping that's a typo!!! ; ) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, John Kinkead <johnkinkead@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I ran across some old posts concerning some Kinkeads in Arkansas and I thought I would share some connections I've made. > > Articles from the Arkansas Gazette > > 23 Aug 1825 - "DIED - In this place on Wednesday evening last, Mr. Adam D. Kinkead, late of Versallies, Woodford County, Kentucky, in the 20th year of his age, a young man much esteemed and respected by all who knew him." > > This is Adam D. Kinkead, son of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 and 1820 census with his parents and died, obviously in 1825 in Jefferson Co. AR > > 27 Dec 1825 - "MARRIED - In Vaugine Township, in this county, on Tuesday evening last, Mr. William Kinkead, of this place, and formerly of Versailles, Ky., to Miss Leonora Dardenne, both of this county." > > 11 Jan 1832 - "SHOE-IN CANDIDATES - The following is a list of the Clerks of the Circuit Court and Sheriffs which are ascertained to be elected...Jefferson - James T. Pullen, Clerk and Wm. Kinkead, Sheriff..." [omitted other counties] > > 10 Fev 1835 - "DIED - (don't have text for this, just that it references William Kinkead, sheriff)" > > This is William Kinkead, son of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 and 1820 census with his parents, in Jefferson County from 1825 to 1835, sheriff from 1832-1835, died in 1835 in Jefferson Co. AR > > 1 Sep 1836 - Mrs. Leonora Kinkead remarries to Dr. James T. Pullen, county clerk from 1830-1839. > > 27 Apr 1837 - "DIED - On Thursday last, the 27th ult., at Pine Bluffs, Mrs. Leonara, wife of Dr. James T. Pullen, of a lingering pulmonary disease. Her loss is deplored by a husband and numerous offspring." > > 19 Jun 1839 - "KILLING - Dr. James T. Pullen, Postmaster at Pine Bluff, Jefferson county, and Clerk of the Circuit Court, was shot while standing in his door, at dusk, on the evening of the 11th inst. He lived until the next morning. The act is supposed to have been perpetrated by John N. Outlaw, who has not been seen since the commission of the outrage." [NOTE: Image available online] > > 10 Jul 1839 - "We stated a few weeks since, that Outlaw, the murderer of Doctor Pullen, was killed by a gentleman named Redditt. We were mistaken. The person who gave him the mortal wound, was Mr. Fanning, who, in company with Mr. Redditt, had started in the pursuit." > >> From Pioneers and Makers of Arkansas: > > "... In 1821, two brothers from Kentucky, Joseph and Andrew Colville, died; the former in Miller and the later in Pulaski County. In the same year at Arkansas Post Martha D. Long, wife of Zachariah Long, late of Versailles, Kentucky. ..." > > This is Martha D. Kinkead, daughter of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 census, married to Zachariah B. Long on 10/26/1815 in Woodford Co. KY. > > I don't have the source with me, but the land dealings in Woodford for Joseph Kinkead inherited from John Kinkead lists wife Nancy, and children John, Martha, Thomas, Margaret, William, Nancy and Adam. > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I ran across some old posts concerning some Kinkeads in Arkansas and I thought I would share some connections I've made. Articles from the Arkansas Gazette 23 Aug 1825 - "DIED - In this place on Wednesday evening last, Mr. Adam D. Kinkead, late of Versallies, Woodford County, Kentucky, in the 20th year of his age, a young man much esteemed and respected by all who knew him." This is Adam D. Kinkead, son of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 and 1820 census with his parents and died, obviously in 1825 in Jefferson Co. AR 27 Dec 1825 - "MARRIED - In Vaugine Township, in this county, on Tuesday evening last, Mr. William Kinkead, of this place, and formerly of Versailles, Ky., to Miss Leonora Dardenne, both of this county." 11 Jan 1832 - "SHOE-IN CANDIDATES - The following is a list of the Clerks of the Circuit Court and Sheriffs which are ascertained to be elected...Jefferson - James T. Pullen, Clerk and Wm. Kinkead, Sheriff..." [omitted other counties] 10 Fev 1835 - "DIED - (don't have text for this, just that it references William Kinkead, sheriff)" This is William Kinkead, son of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 and 1820 census with his parents, in Jefferson County from 1825 to 1835, sheriff from 1832-1835, died in 1835 in Jefferson Co. AR 1 Sep 1836 - Mrs. Leonora Kinkead remarries to Dr. James T. Pullen, county clerk from 1830-1839. 27 Apr 1837 - "DIED - On Thursday last, the 27th ult., at Pine Bluffs, Mrs. Leonara, wife of Dr. James T. Pullen, of a lingering pulmonary disease. Her loss is deplored by a husband and numerous offspring." 19 Jun 1839 - "KILLING - Dr. James T. Pullen, Postmaster at Pine Bluff, Jefferson county, and Clerk of the Circuit Court, was shot while standing in his door, at dusk, on the evening of the 11th inst. He lived until the next morning. The act is supposed to have been perpetrated by John N. Outlaw, who has not been seen since the commission of the outrage." [NOTE: Image available online] 10 Jul 1839 - "We stated a few weeks since, that Outlaw, the murderer of Doctor Pullen, was killed by a gentleman named Redditt. We were mistaken. The person who gave him the mortal wound, was Mr. Fanning, who, in company with Mr. Redditt, had started in the pursuit." >From Pioneers and Makers of Arkansas: "... In 1821, two brothers from Kentucky, Joseph and Andrew Colville, died; the former in Miller and the later in Pulaski County. In the same year at Arkansas Post Martha D. Long, wife of Zachariah Long, late of Versailles, Kentucky. ..." This is Martha D. Kinkead, daughter of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 census, married to Zachariah B. Long on 10/26/1815 in Woodford Co. KY. I don't have the source with me, but the land dealings in Woodford for Joseph Kinkead inherited from John Kinkead lists wife Nancy, and children John, Martha, Thomas, Margaret, William, Nancy and Adam.

Thank you go all the recent info on AR Kinkeads. One question though. Martha Kinkead born in 1805 and then married in 1815. I'm hoping that's a typo!!! ; ) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:37 PM, John Kinkead <johnkinkead@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I ran across some old posts concerning some Kinkeads in Arkansas and I thought I would share some connections I've made. > > Articles from the Arkansas Gazette > > 23 Aug 1825 - "DIED - In this place on Wednesday evening last, Mr. Adam D. Kinkead, late of Versallies, Woodford County, Kentucky, in the 20th year of his age, a young man much esteemed and respected by all who knew him." > > This is Adam D. Kinkead, son of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 and 1820 census with his parents and died, obviously in 1825 in Jefferson Co. AR > > 27 Dec 1825 - "MARRIED - In Vaugine Township, in this county, on Tuesday evening last, Mr. William Kinkead, of this place, and formerly of Versailles, Ky., to Miss Leonora Dardenne, both of this county." > > 11 Jan 1832 - "SHOE-IN CANDIDATES - The following is a list of the Clerks of the Circuit Court and Sheriffs which are ascertained to be elected...Jefferson - James T. Pullen, Clerk and Wm. Kinkead, Sheriff..." [omitted other counties] > > 10 Fev 1835 - "DIED - (don't have text for this, just that it references William Kinkead, sheriff)" > > This is William Kinkead, son of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 and 1820 census with his parents, in Jefferson County from 1825 to 1835, sheriff from 1832-1835, died in 1835 in Jefferson Co. AR > > 1 Sep 1836 - Mrs. Leonora Kinkead remarries to Dr. James T. Pullen, county clerk from 1830-1839. > > 27 Apr 1837 - "DIED - On Thursday last, the 27th ult., at Pine Bluffs, Mrs. Leonara, wife of Dr. James T. Pullen, of a lingering pulmonary disease. Her loss is deplored by a husband and numerous offspring." > > 19 Jun 1839 - "KILLING - Dr. James T. Pullen, Postmaster at Pine Bluff, Jefferson county, and Clerk of the Circuit Court, was shot while standing in his door, at dusk, on the evening of the 11th inst. He lived until the next morning. The act is supposed to have been perpetrated by John N. Outlaw, who has not been seen since the commission of the outrage." [NOTE: Image available online] > > 10 Jul 1839 - "We stated a few weeks since, that Outlaw, the murderer of Doctor Pullen, was killed by a gentleman named Redditt. We were mistaken. The person who gave him the mortal wound, was Mr. Fanning, who, in company with Mr. Redditt, had started in the pursuit." > >> From Pioneers and Makers of Arkansas: > > "... In 1821, two brothers from Kentucky, Joseph and Andrew Colville, died; the former in Miller and the later in Pulaski County. In the same year at Arkansas Post Martha D. Long, wife of Zachariah Long, late of Versailles, Kentucky. ..." > > This is Martha D. Kinkead, daughter of Joseph Kinkead and Nancy Dickinson, born in 1805 in Bath Co. VA, in Woodford Co. KY in the 1810 census, married to Zachariah B. Long on 10/26/1815 in Woodford Co. KY. > > I don't have the source with me, but the land dealings in Woodford for Joseph Kinkead inherited from John Kinkead lists wife Nancy, and children John, Martha, Thomas, Margaret, William, Nancy and Adam. > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Keep up the good work Stephen. This is a great start to your research. Make sure you check out familysearch.org on a regular basis. It is amazing the record images which are being made available online. If anyone else answers Stephen's email, please do a "Reply All" so the list will get the benefit of your response and not just Stephen. Thanks. Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 12/11/2012 3:39:45 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, stephen.c.kincaid@gmail.com writes: Stephen Charles Kincaid, born in Little Rock, AR to Charles George Kincaid and Stephany Ann Springer Charles George Kincaid, born in Kansas City, Missouri in 1945 lived in Bethel, KS was the second son to Walter George Kincaid and Mary Magdalene McDonald. This was Walter's second wife, as his first wife was killed while trying to cross a river. His son from previous marriage was Johnny Kincaid who had married Mary but divorced her and left (presumed out west to California), but was serving in the Army. Walter George Kincaid was born in 1895 and lived in West Liberty, KY (Morgan County). He migrated to Missouri and worked for Phillips Petroleum in the Kansas City, MO/KS area during the 1920s-1940s. He had 2 younger sisters, Loam and Marjorie. It is believed that he and his sisters lived or was taken in to be raised by a man with the last name of Keeton/Keaton (sp?) at the age of 10 (1905) there in West Liberty. It is believed that Keaton was a Merchant Marine, who might have possibly brought Walter and his sisters to the US from Scotland. Any and all previous generational information is limited to this at this point; however, I will try to determine more. -- Kindest regards, Stephen C. Kincaid MBL 501-240-8887 EML stephen.c.kincaid@gmail.com FBK www.facebook.com/stephenckincaid For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stephen Charles Kincaid, born in Little Rock, AR to Charles George Kincaid and Stephany Ann Springer Charles George Kincaid, born in Kansas City, Missouri in 1945 lived in Bethel, KS was the second son to Walter George Kincaid and Mary Magdalene McDonald. This was Walter's second wife, as his first wife was killed while trying to cross a river. His son from previous marriage was Johnny Kincaid who had married Mary but divorced her and left (presumed out west to California), but was serving in the Army. Walter George Kincaid was born in 1895 and lived in West Liberty, KY (Morgan County). He migrated to Missouri and worked for Phillips Petroleum in the Kansas City, MO/KS area during the 1920s-1940s. He had 2 younger sisters, Loam and Marjorie. It is believed that he and his sisters lived or was taken in to be raised by a man with the last name of Keeton/Keaton (sp?) at the age of 10 (1905) there in West Liberty. It is believed that Keaton was a Merchant Marine, who might have possibly brought Walter and his sisters to the US from Scotland. Any and all previous generational information is limited to this at this point; however, I will try to determine more. -- Kindest regards, Stephen C. Kincaid MBL 501-240-8887 EML stephen.c.kincaid@gmail.com FBK www.facebook.com/stephenckincaid

The point you make is significant in that the reference to "distant relative" and "uncle" is in the information in the bios for JC Skeen & Joseph Byson Kincaid when referencing George Blackburn Kincaid. It does point to Robert d c1795 Rockbridge Co. being related to Capt. Wm. The connection adds some substance to the hypothesis that Robert of Rockbridge is Robert/Anna Helena. I do wish evidence would turn up naming Robert of Rockbridge's wife. We do need a DNA participant from one of the lines tracing back to Robert of Rockbridge in order to confirm he was A-1a. There are several family groups represented in Greater Augusta Co. and they seem to interact with each other as if they were all from the same family. Early researchers made connections assuming that they were one family. It is only through DNA that we have been able to figure out who was genetically related to whom. How do you know that Robert of Rockbridge had a son Andrew? Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kinkead" <johnkinkead@hotmail.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > Robert Kinkead d. 1852 has a death record in Kentucky stating that his > parents are Isaiah and Mary Kinkead. > > I guess I wasn't clear in my original post. The "Judge Kincaid" referred > to in the obituary of Joseph Skeen is Judge George Blackburn Kinkead, > Joseph Skeen's 2nd cousin 1x removed, and not Joseph Bryson Kinkead (who > was never a judge, only a lawyer). As it is not possible for GBK to be > Joseph Skeen's literal uncle, I assumed it implied an older relative. > GBK's parents, siblings and children are all well document. > > What I find most interesting is that TWO descendents of the Robert Kinkead > who died ~1795 in Rockbridge Co. both had dealings with GBK who descends > from Capt. William Kinkead of Augusta/Woodford. One, who worked under > GBK, and another who actually lived with GBK, and both have sources that > state a genealogical relationship. > > Which brings me back to the idea that the Robert Kinkead who died ~1795 in > Rockbridge Co. is a brother to Capt. William Kinkead. With both having > sons named Andrew (in Capt. William's case, two sons named Andrew), it > lends more circumstantial evidence to the case of an older Andrew Kinkead > being the father of both. > > > > >> From: seleaml@actionnet.net >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 07:53:44 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay >> ties >> >> Note the use of "uncle" in the relationship of JC Skeen and Judge Kincaid >> (do you know for a fact that this is Joseph B?). In the lineage you give, >> the 2 would be 1st cousins. It would suggest that Judge Kincaid may have >> been a son of Isaiah rather than a grandson. I do know that the words >> "uncle" and "aunt" are sometimes used to indicate an older relative, not >> necessarily the sibling of a parent, as my grandmother's 1st cousin >> referred >> to her as "Aunt" and the children of my nieces (1st cousins) use "Aunt & >> Uncle" when referring to each others parents but the possibility that the >> reference is actually to a parent's brother needs to be eliminated. . >> >> There isn't a Robert in Isaiah's will. Where did Robert as father of >> Joseph >> B. and son of Isaiah come from? If Robert died prior to Isaiah there >> should >> be a reference to "heirs of Robert" in the will or there would be a >> possibility that the will could have been broken. Getting the actual will >> would be of help. >> >> The 2 problems above occur in other lineages so it may be interesting to >> have a discussion on them.. >> 1. Does the use of the titles "Uncle & Aunt" actually define the so >> designated as sibling of a parent or was it used more broadly to define >> an >> older relative? >> >> 2. How strictly was the mention of all children or heirs of a deceased >> child >> adhered to in early wills? Are there examples where an unmentioned heir >> actually broke the will? >> >> Sue Liedtke >> > >> >>From "A History of Rockbridge County": >> > >> > Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, >> > Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), >> > William, >> > James. >> > >> >> SOURCES: >> >> >> >> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 >> >> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) >> >> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in >> >> Louisville, >> >> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >> >> >> >> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 >> >> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) >> >> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, >> >> Esq., >> >> at >> >> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, >> >> and >> >> was >> >> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." >> >> >> >> ***** >> >> >> >> LINEAGE: >> >> >> >> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > >> >> Robert/Anna >> >> Helena >> >> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena >> >> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead >> >> >> >> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) >> >> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) >> >> >> >> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena >> >> and >> >> William/Eleanor being brothers. >> >> >> >> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and >> >> Joseph >> >> C >> >> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn >> >> Kinkead >> >> (1811-1877). >> >> >> >> ***** >> >> >> >> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary >> >> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. >> >> >> >> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA >> >> d. >> >> 1824 >> >> Rockbridge Co. VA >> >> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH >> >> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY >> >> d. >> >> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY >> >> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 >> >> Christian Co. KY >> >> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. >> >> VA >> >> d. >> >> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH >> >> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown >> >> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 >> >> Lexington, VA >> >> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >> >> 1/9/1881 >> >> Chicago, IL >> >> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown >> >> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 >> >> Thorntown, >> >> IN >> >> >> >> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named >> >> in >> >> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that >> >> time. >> >> >> >> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor >> >> ended >> >> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. >> >> William >> >> ended up. >> >> >> >> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel >> >> & >> >> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also >> >> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after >> >> 1824. >> >> >> >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >> >> project, >> >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >> >> project, >> >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >> > project, >> > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> > >> > www.kincaiddna.org >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Evidently Isaiah/Mary Berryhill's will names son Isaiah which supports the information in John Berryhill's will. It doesn't name a son Robert. As indicated in the lineage given for Joseph Byson. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis House" <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > Sue, there were TWO Isaiah Kinkeads in Rockbridge/ > > RBR 08/07/1783 RM-118( ) Isaiah Kincaid m. Mary Berryhill. bond or > license date only. Isaiah, son of Robert. > > NOTE: a Berryhill genealogy website > (http://www.berryhill.org/berryhill.htm) gives her name as "Polly", > daughter > of John Berryhill, or Ireland and Va. The same document mentions James and > Isaiah Kincaid (as sons of Polly) receiving land in Polly's brother John > Berryhill's will, which was written in 1825 and recorded January 2, 1826 > at > Lexington, Va. > > > >>> Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, >>> Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), >>> William, >>> James. >>> >>>> SOURCES: >>>> >>>> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 >>>> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) >>>> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in >>>> Louisville, >>>> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >>>> >>>> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 >>>> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) >>>> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, >>>> Esq., >>>> at >>>> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and >>>> was >>>> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." >>>> >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> LINEAGE: >>>> >>>> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > >>>> Robert/Anna >>>> Helena >>>> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena >>>> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead >>>> >>>> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) >>>> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) >>>> >>>> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and >>>> William/Eleanor being brothers. >>>> >>>> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and >>>> Joseph >>>> C >>>> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead >>>> (1811-1877). >>>> >>>> ***** >>>> >>>> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary >>>> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. >>>> >>>> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>>> 1824 >>>> Rockbridge Co. VA >>>> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH >>>> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. >>>> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY >>>> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 >>>> Christian Co. KY >>>> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. >>>> VA >>>> d. >>>> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH >>>> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown >>>> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 >>>> Lexington, VA >>>> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>>> 1/9/1881 >>>> Chicago, IL >>>> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown >>>> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, >>>> IN >>>> >>>> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named >>>> in >>>> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor >>>> ended >>>> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. >>>> William >>>> ended up. >>>> >>>> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & >>>> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also >>>> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. >>>> >>>> >>>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >>>> project, >>>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>>> >>>> www.kincaiddna.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA >>>> project, >>>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>>> >>>> www.kincaiddna.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here's the complete bio: JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. This well-known resident of the Kentucky city at the Falls of the Ohio, long one of the prominent members of the Bar in Louisville, is a native of Versailles, Woodford county, Kentucky. He was the second son of Robert and Elizabeth (Bryson) Kinkead. His father was a prosperous owner of a large flouring-mill and cotton-spinning establishment in Versailles, and also Postmaster of that place for about a quarter of a century, under the administration of Presidents Monroe (appointed about 1827), Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, and in part that of Fillmore. He had become a citizen of Woodford county about 1812, immigrating thither from Rockbridge county, Virginia. The Mother's family was from Washington, Pennsylvania. On both sides the stock is from the excellent Scotch-Irish, which has given so many reputable and useful citizens to the New World. Young Kinkead was trained in elementary education in the schools of the period at Versailles, and also prosecuted a preparatory course for a time at Augusta College, below Maysville, on the Ohio, then one of the most famous institutions of learning in the State. At the age of eighteen he received an appointment as midshipman in the United States Navy, through the voluntary kindness of Senator Thomas H. Benton, Vice-President Richard M. Johnson, and Major Herman Bowmar, Sr., of Versailles. Ordered at once to the steamship Missouri, he found the second in command of it Alexander Slidell Mackenzie, who shortly afterwards hanged at the yard-arm of the Somers young Spencer, son of the Secretary of the Navy, for mutiny. Captain John Thomas Newton was the superior commander. By request at Pensacola sometime after, he was transferred to the receiving-ship Ontario, at New Orleans, with which he remained but a few months while awaiting a leave of absence. It being granted, he returned to Kentucky, and there resigned his commission, at the instance of his father, who preferred to have his son nearer home; and resolved to study law. He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., at Versailles, with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and was granted in 1845 ^ license to practice, by the Hons. John Mason Brown and Richard A. Buckner, two of the then Circuit Judges of Kentucky. He began practice at once in his native place, alone; but presently joined his interests with those of Caleb W. Logan, who had then a fine local business, but afterwards removed to Louisville, and there became Chancellor of the Chancery Court in that city. This removal closed the partnership; Mr. Kinkead assumed the practice of the firm single-handed, and maintained it until 1850, when he also removed to Louisville, where he has since resided as a practitioner at the bar. He was at first alone in the business here; but, in 1854, was joined by the present Judge John W. Barr, of the United States District Court, who was also a native of Versailles, and is the subject of another sketch in this chapter. The new firm was Kinkead & Barr, and it lasted about eight years, when it was dissolved. In 1855, June 20th, Mr. Kinkead was united in marriage to Miss Lucy Ridgely Short, fourth daughter of Dr. Charles W. and Mary H. (Churchill) Short. Her father was widely known as one of the most learned and industrious botanists and professors of medicine in the Ohio Valley, and his distinguished life and public services form the subject of a biographical notice elsewhere. She departed this life April 8, 1868. They had children as follow: Elizabeth, married Mr. William O. Eastin, of Versailles, now of Lexington, Kentucky, and died in January, 1880; Peyton Short, married Miss Sallie Johnson, of Lake Washington, Mississippi, February 8, 1882, and resides in Versailles; Robert C, married Julia, daughter of William F. Grinstead, of Louisville, February 24, 1881, and is a practicing lawyer in partnership with his father, at No. 8 Center street, in this city; Mary Churchill, Charles Short, and Annie Lucy, still residing with their father, in their pleasant residence at 917 Second street, near Broadway. After the dissolution of Kinkead & Barr, the former remained alone in practice for many years, but spending most of his time necessarily in discharging the duties of large fiduciary trusts committed to him. In 1880 he took his son Robert into professional partnership, as above noted, under the name and style of J. R. & R. C. Kinkead, by which it is now well and reputably known. Mr. Kinkead has often been solicited to embark in politics, and to accept various local, State, and Federal offices; but has almost invariably declined, and studiously avoided the vicissitudes and excitements of official or political life. Many years ago, however, he occasionally made speeches in the campaigns of the Democratic party, with which he trained until the Presidential canvass of i860, during and since which he has been quietly identified with Republicanism. He was also Pension Agent in Louisville from 1854 to 1861; but has never been in any way an office-seeker or professional politician. He is a Presbyterian in religious convictions, a member of the College Street church; was one of the founders of the House of Refuge and for years a member of the Board of Directors; has long been associated with the Order of Free and Accepted Masons, and was a charter member of De Molay Commandery of Knights Templars; and has otherwise been somewhat conspicuously) identified with affairs in the city of his adoption. He has served in both branches of the City Council, and also in the Directory of two of the heaviest local moneyed institutions - the Bank of Louisville and the National Bank of Kentucky. > From: seleaml@actionnet.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 07:53:44 -0800 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > Note the use of "uncle" in the relationship of JC Skeen and Judge Kincaid > (do you know for a fact that this is Joseph B?). In the lineage you give, > the 2 would be 1st cousins. It would suggest that Judge Kincaid may have > been a son of Isaiah rather than a grandson. I do know that the words > "uncle" and "aunt" are sometimes used to indicate an older relative, not > necessarily the sibling of a parent, as my grandmother's 1st cousin referred > to her as "Aunt" and the children of my nieces (1st cousins) use "Aunt & > Uncle" when referring to each others parents but the possibility that the > reference is actually to a parent's brother needs to be eliminated. . > > There isn't a Robert in Isaiah's will. Where did Robert as father of Joseph > B. and son of Isaiah come from? If Robert died prior to Isaiah there should > be a reference to "heirs of Robert" in the will or there would be a > possibility that the will could have been broken. Getting the actual will > would be of help. > > The 2 problems above occur in other lineages so it may be interesting to > have a discussion on them.. > 1. Does the use of the titles "Uncle & Aunt" actually define the so > designated as sibling of a parent or was it used more broadly to define an > older relative? > > 2. How strictly was the mention of all children or heirs of a deceased child > adhered to in early wills? Are there examples where an unmentioned heir > actually broke the will? > > Sue Liedtke > > > >>From "A History of Rockbridge County": > > > > Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, > > Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), William, > > James. > > > >> SOURCES: > >> > >> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 > >> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) > >> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, > >> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." > >> > >> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 > >> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) > >> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., > >> at > >> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and > >> was > >> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." > >> > >> ***** > >> > >> LINEAGE: > >> > >> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna > >> Helena > >> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena > >> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead > >> > >> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) > >> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) > >> > >> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and > >> William/Eleanor being brothers. > >> > >> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph > >> C > >> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead > >> (1811-1877). > >> > >> ***** > >> > >> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary > >> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. > >> > >> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. > >> 1824 > >> Rockbridge Co. VA > >> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH > >> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. > >> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY > >> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 > >> Christian Co. KY > >> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA > >> d. > >> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH > >> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown > >> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 > >> Lexington, VA > >> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 > >> Chicago, IL > >> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown > >> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, > >> IN > >> > >> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in > >> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that > >> time. > >> > >> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor > >> ended > >> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. > >> William > >> ended up. > >> > >> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & > >> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also > >> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. > >> > >> > >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >> > >> www.kincaiddna.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >> > >> www.kincaiddna.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, there were TWO Isaiah Kinkeads in Rockbridge/ RBR 08/07/1783 RM-118( ) Isaiah Kincaid m. Mary Berryhill. bond or license date only. Isaiah, son of Robert. NOTE: a Berryhill genealogy website (http://www.berryhill.org/berryhill.htm) gives her name as "Polly", daughter of John Berryhill, or Ireland and Va. The same document mentions James and Isaiah Kincaid (as sons of Polly) receiving land in Polly's brother John Berryhill's will, which was written in 1825 and recorded January 2, 1826 at Lexington, Va. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:53 AM To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > Note the use of "uncle" in the relationship of JC Skeen and Judge Kincaid > (do you know for a fact that this is Joseph B?). In the lineage you give, > the 2 would be 1st cousins. It would suggest that Judge Kincaid may have > been a son of Isaiah rather than a grandson. I do know that the words > "uncle" and "aunt" are sometimes used to indicate an older relative, not > necessarily the sibling of a parent, as my grandmother's 1st cousin > referred > to her as "Aunt" and the children of my nieces (1st cousins) use "Aunt & > Uncle" when referring to each others parents but the possibility that the > reference is actually to a parent's brother needs to be eliminated. . > > There isn't a Robert in Isaiah's will. Where did Robert as father of > Joseph > B. and son of Isaiah come from? If Robert died prior to Isaiah there > should > be a reference to "heirs of Robert" in the will or there would be a > possibility that the will could have been broken. Getting the actual will > would be of help. > > The 2 problems above occur in other lineages so it may be interesting to > have a discussion on them.. > 1. Does the use of the titles "Uncle & Aunt" actually define the so > designated as sibling of a parent or was it used more broadly to define an > older relative? > > 2. How strictly was the mention of all children or heirs of a deceased > child > adhered to in early wills? Are there examples where an unmentioned heir > actually broke the will? > > Sue Liedtke >> >>>From "A History of Rockbridge County": >> >> Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, >> Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), William, >> James. >> >>> SOURCES: >>> >>> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 >>> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) >>> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, >>> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >>> >>> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 >>> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) >>> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, >>> Esq., >>> at >>> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and >>> was >>> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." >>> >>> ***** >>> >>> LINEAGE: >>> >>> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > >>> Robert/Anna >>> Helena >>> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena >>> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead >>> >>> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) >>> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) >>> >>> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and >>> William/Eleanor being brothers. >>> >>> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and >>> Joseph >>> C >>> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead >>> (1811-1877). >>> >>> ***** >>> >>> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary >>> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. >>> >>> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>> 1824 >>> Rockbridge Co. VA >>> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH >>> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. >>> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY >>> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 >>> Christian Co. KY >>> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA >>> d. >>> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH >>> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown >>> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 >>> Lexington, VA >>> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >>> 1/9/1881 >>> Chicago, IL >>> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown >>> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, >>> IN >>> >>> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named >>> in >>> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that >>> time. >>> >>> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor >>> ended >>> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. >>> William >>> ended up. >>> >>> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & >>> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also >>> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert Kinkead d. 1852 has a death record in Kentucky stating that his parents are Isaiah and Mary Kinkead. I guess I wasn't clear in my original post. The "Judge Kincaid" referred to in the obituary of Joseph Skeen is Judge George Blackburn Kinkead, Joseph Skeen's 2nd cousin 1x removed, and not Joseph Bryson Kinkead (who was never a judge, only a lawyer). As it is not possible for GBK to be Joseph Skeen's literal uncle, I assumed it implied an older relative. GBK's parents, siblings and children are all well document. What I find most interesting is that TWO descendents of the Robert Kinkead who died ~1795 in Rockbridge Co. both had dealings with GBK who descends from Capt. William Kinkead of Augusta/Woodford. One, who worked under GBK, and another who actually lived with GBK, and both have sources that state a genealogical relationship. Which brings me back to the idea that the Robert Kinkead who died ~1795 in Rockbridge Co. is a brother to Capt. William Kinkead. With both having sons named Andrew (in Capt. William's case, two sons named Andrew), it lends more circumstantial evidence to the case of an older Andrew Kinkead being the father of both. > From: seleaml@actionnet.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 07:53:44 -0800 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > Note the use of "uncle" in the relationship of JC Skeen and Judge Kincaid > (do you know for a fact that this is Joseph B?). In the lineage you give, > the 2 would be 1st cousins. It would suggest that Judge Kincaid may have > been a son of Isaiah rather than a grandson. I do know that the words > "uncle" and "aunt" are sometimes used to indicate an older relative, not > necessarily the sibling of a parent, as my grandmother's 1st cousin referred > to her as "Aunt" and the children of my nieces (1st cousins) use "Aunt & > Uncle" when referring to each others parents but the possibility that the > reference is actually to a parent's brother needs to be eliminated. . > > There isn't a Robert in Isaiah's will. Where did Robert as father of Joseph > B. and son of Isaiah come from? If Robert died prior to Isaiah there should > be a reference to "heirs of Robert" in the will or there would be a > possibility that the will could have been broken. Getting the actual will > would be of help. > > The 2 problems above occur in other lineages so it may be interesting to > have a discussion on them.. > 1. Does the use of the titles "Uncle & Aunt" actually define the so > designated as sibling of a parent or was it used more broadly to define an > older relative? > > 2. How strictly was the mention of all children or heirs of a deceased child > adhered to in early wills? Are there examples where an unmentioned heir > actually broke the will? > > Sue Liedtke > > > >>From "A History of Rockbridge County": > > > > Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, > > Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), William, > > James. > > > >> SOURCES: > >> > >> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 > >> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) > >> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, > >> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." > >> > >> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 > >> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) > >> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., > >> at > >> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and > >> was > >> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." > >> > >> ***** > >> > >> LINEAGE: > >> > >> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna > >> Helena > >> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena > >> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead > >> > >> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) > >> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) > >> > >> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and > >> William/Eleanor being brothers. > >> > >> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph > >> C > >> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead > >> (1811-1877). > >> > >> ***** > >> > >> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary > >> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. > >> > >> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. > >> 1824 > >> Rockbridge Co. VA > >> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH > >> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. > >> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY > >> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 > >> Christian Co. KY > >> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA > >> d. > >> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH > >> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown > >> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 > >> Lexington, VA > >> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 > >> Chicago, IL > >> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown > >> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, > >> IN > >> > >> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in > >> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that > >> time. > >> > >> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor > >> ended > >> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. > >> William > >> ended up. > >> > >> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & > >> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also > >> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. > >> > >> > >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >> > >> www.kincaiddna.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >> > >> www.kincaiddna.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Note the use of "uncle" in the relationship of JC Skeen and Judge Kincaid (do you know for a fact that this is Joseph B?). In the lineage you give, the 2 would be 1st cousins. It would suggest that Judge Kincaid may have been a son of Isaiah rather than a grandson. I do know that the words "uncle" and "aunt" are sometimes used to indicate an older relative, not necessarily the sibling of a parent, as my grandmother's 1st cousin referred to her as "Aunt" and the children of my nieces (1st cousins) use "Aunt & Uncle" when referring to each others parents but the possibility that the reference is actually to a parent's brother needs to be eliminated. . There isn't a Robert in Isaiah's will. Where did Robert as father of Joseph B. and son of Isaiah come from? If Robert died prior to Isaiah there should be a reference to "heirs of Robert" in the will or there would be a possibility that the will could have been broken. Getting the actual will would be of help. The 2 problems above occur in other lineages so it may be interesting to have a discussion on them.. 1. Does the use of the titles "Uncle & Aunt" actually define the so designated as sibling of a parent or was it used more broadly to define an older relative? 2. How strictly was the mention of all children or heirs of a deceased child adhered to in early wills? Are there examples where an unmentioned heir actually broke the will? Sue Liedtke > >>From "A History of Rockbridge County": > > Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, > Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), William, > James. > >> SOURCES: >> >> >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 >> J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) >> "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, >> Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >> >> >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 >> JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) >> "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., >> at >> Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and >> was >> granted in 1845 a license to practice..." >> >> ***** >> >> LINEAGE: >> >> Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna >> Helena >> Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena >> George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead >> >> Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) >> Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) >> >> The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and >> William/Eleanor being brothers. >> >> If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph >> C >> Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead >> (1811-1877). >> >> ***** >> >> For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary >> Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. >> >> Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >> 1824 >> Rockbridge Co. VA >> +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH >> 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. >> 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY >> 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 >> Christian Co. KY >> 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA >> d. >> 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH >> 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown >> 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 >> Lexington, VA >> 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 >> Chicago, IL >> 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown >> 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, >> IN >> >> All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in >> the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that >> time. >> >> Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor >> ended >> up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. >> William >> ended up. >> >> Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & >> Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also >> don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do you have a copy of Isaiah Kincaid's will? This source doesn't include children Jane and Joseph, as well as Robert. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lesliesc&id=I76654 1824 Will for Isaiah Kincaid, Rockbridge Co. wife Polly, children: William, James, Isaiah, Samuel and Rachel (m Thomas Patton 1817 -----Original Message----- From: John Kinkead Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:12 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties I've recently found some interesting family ties between Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay and was curious what the group made of it. ***** SOURCES: >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., at Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and was granted in 1845 a license to practice..." ***** LINEAGE: Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna Helena Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and William/Eleanor being brothers. If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph C Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead (1811-1877). ***** For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1824 Rockbridge Co. VA +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 Christian Co. KY 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 Lexington, VA 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 Chicago, IL 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, IN All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that time. Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor ended up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. William ended up. Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah, I see what you're saying. I guess I assumed that it already been proven that the Robert who died ~1795 was the husband of Anna Helena. I based the birth year before 1741 based on the approximate ages of the children, particularly Robert and Isaiah who were born about 1765. Regardless of whether or not the wife is Anna Helena, this Robert appears to be a possible brother to Capt. William. Both Robert and William have sons named Andrew, which also fits with your belief (mine as well) that Capt. William is the son of an Andrew. > From: seleaml@actionnet.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:35:03 -0800 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > The problem in the lineage is proving that Robert d c1795 (note that Isaiah > is adm Robert's estate by then) in Rockbridge Co. is Robert/Anna Helena of > Beverly Manor in Augusta Co. While the timing of Robert/Anna Helena's sale > of the last of the Beverly Manor land (1770) would allow for Robert of > Rockbridge (selling 550a in Rockbridge to Samuel Davis in 1778) to be the > same man, I have seen nothing indicating the name of Rockbridge Robert's > wife so equating the two Roberts is pure conjecture (though I personally > believe it a strong possibility). Perhaps finding the 1778 deed would be of > help or perhaps the writer of this lineage knows something we don't.. > > I am wondering where the 1741 date came from for either Roberts' year of > birth. Robert/Anna Helena buy the Beverly Manor land in 1763 so this date is > plausible but he also could be older. There is a Robert Kincaid not found in > 1748 Augusta Co. taxes. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Kinkead" <johnkinkead@hotmail.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:12 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > > > > > I've recently found some interesting family ties between Robert/Anna > > Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay and was curious what the group made > > of it. > > > > ***** > > > > SOURCES: > > > >>From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 > > J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) > > "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, > > Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." > > > >>From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 > > JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) > > "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., > > at Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and > > was granted in 1845 a license to practice..." > > > > ***** > > > > LINEAGE: > > > > Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna > > Helena > > Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena > > George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead > > > > Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) > > Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) > > > > The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and > > William/Eleanor being brothers. > > > > If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph > > C Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead > > (1811-1877). > > > > ***** > > > > For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary > > Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. > > > > Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. > > 1824 Rockbridge Co. VA > > +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH > > 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. > > 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY > > 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 > > Christian Co. KY > > 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA > > d. 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH > > 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown > > 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 > > Lexington, VA > > 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 > > Chicago, IL > > 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown > > 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, IN > > > > All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in > > the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that > > time. > > > > Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor ended > > up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. > > William ended up. > > > > Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & > > Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also > > don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From "A History of Rockbridge County": Kincaid. - 1. Isaiah - d. 1824 - m. Dolly - C: Joseph, Iseah, Samuel, Rachel (m. Thomas Patton, 1817), Jinny (m. William Skeen, 1822), William, James. > From: dutchtreat@prodigy.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 13:46:18 -0500 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > Do you have a copy of Isaiah Kincaid's will? > This source doesn't include children Jane and Joseph, as well as Robert. > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lesliesc&id=I76654 > > 1824 Will for Isaiah Kincaid, Rockbridge Co. wife Polly, children: William, > James, Isaiah, Samuel and Rachel (m Thomas Patton 1817 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Kinkead > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:12 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > > I've recently found some interesting family ties between Robert/Anna Helena > and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay and was curious what the group made of it. > > ***** > > SOURCES: > > >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 > J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) > "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, > Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." > > >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 > JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) > "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., at > Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and was > granted in 1845 a license to practice..." > > ***** > > LINEAGE: > > Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna > Helena > Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena > George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead > > Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) > Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) > > The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and > William/Eleanor being brothers. > > If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph C > Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead > (1811-1877). > > ***** > > For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary > Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. > > Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1824 > Rockbridge Co. VA > +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH > 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. > 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY > 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 > Christian Co. KY > 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA d. > 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH > 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown > 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 > Lexington, VA > 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 > Chicago, IL > 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown > 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, IN > > All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in > the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that > time. > > Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor ended > up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. William > ended up. > > Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & > Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also > don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The problem in the lineage is proving that Robert d c1795 (note that Isaiah is adm Robert's estate by then) in Rockbridge Co. is Robert/Anna Helena of Beverly Manor in Augusta Co. While the timing of Robert/Anna Helena's sale of the last of the Beverly Manor land (1770) would allow for Robert of Rockbridge (selling 550a in Rockbridge to Samuel Davis in 1778) to be the same man, I have seen nothing indicating the name of Rockbridge Robert's wife so equating the two Roberts is pure conjecture (though I personally believe it a strong possibility). Perhaps finding the 1778 deed would be of help or perhaps the writer of this lineage knows something we don't.. I am wondering where the 1741 date came from for either Roberts' year of birth. Robert/Anna Helena buy the Beverly Manor land in 1763 so this date is plausible but he also could be older. There is a Robert Kincaid not found in 1748 Augusta Co. taxes. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kinkead" <johnkinkead@hotmail.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:12 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay ties > > I've recently found some interesting family ties between Robert/Anna > Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay and was curious what the group made > of it. > > ***** > > SOURCES: > >>From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 > J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) > "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, > Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." > >>From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 > JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) > "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., > at Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and > was granted in 1845 a license to practice..." > > ***** > > LINEAGE: > > Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna > Helena > Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena > George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead > > Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) > Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) > > The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and > William/Eleanor being brothers. > > If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph > C Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead > (1811-1877). > > ***** > > For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary > Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. > > Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. > 1824 Rockbridge Co. VA > +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH > 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. > 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY > 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 > Christian Co. KY > 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA > d. 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH > 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown > 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 > Lexington, VA > 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 > Chicago, IL > 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown > 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, IN > > All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in > the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that > time. > > Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor ended > up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. > William ended up. > > Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & > Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also > don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824. > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've recently found some interesting family ties between Robert/Anna Helena and Capt. William/Eleanor Gay and was curious what the group made of it. ***** SOURCES: >From "Oak Park Leaves" (Oak Park, IL) 3/14/1908 J. C. SKEEN IS DEAD (1834-1908) "...Mr. Skeen was born in Ohio, but his boyhood was spent in Louisville, Ky., with his uncle, Judge Kincaid." >From "History of the Ohio Falls Counties" 1882 JOSEPH B. KINKEAD, Esq. (1822-1892) "...He entered the office of a distant relative, George B. Kinkead, Esq., at Versailles with whom he completed a course of professional reading, and was granted in 1845 a license to practice..." ***** LINEAGE: Joseph Bryson Kinkead -> Robert Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead - > Robert/Anna Helena Joseph C Skeen -> Jane Kinkead -> Isaiah Kinkead -> Robert/Anna Helena George Blackburn Kinkead -> John Kinkead -> William/Eleanor Kinkead Capt. William Kinkead (1736-1821) Robert Kinkead (<1741-1799) The earliest these two lines could meet are with Robert/Anna Helena and William/Eleanor being brothers. If William and Robert are brothers, then Joseph Bryson Kinkead and Joseph C Skeen are both 2nd cousins 1x removed to Judge George Blackburn Kinkead (1811-1877). ***** For those interest, I've been digging into the family Isaiah and Mary Berryhill. Some of the information below I believe will be new. Isaiah Kinkead b. <1765 Augusta Co. VA m. 8/7/1783 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1824 Rockbridge Co. VA +Mary Berryhill b. <1765 VA d. >1830 OH 1. Robert b. 9/16/1788 m. Elizabeth Bryson 8/23/1814 Woodford Co. KY d. 5/2/1852 Versailles, KY 2. James b. ~1791 m. Nancy Hall 11/4/1819 Rockbridge Co. VA d. >1870 Christian Co. KY 3. Isaiah b. 1/24/1794 m. Margaret McFarland 10/4/1820 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 3/26/1870 Lost Creek, OH 4. Rachel b. ~1797 m. Thomas Patton 9/11/1817 d. unknown 5. William b. ~1798 m. 11/23/1824 Eliza Jane McDaniel d. 9/23/1883 Lexington, VA 6. Jane b. ~1800 m. William Skeen 8/22/1822 Rockbridge Co. VA d. 1/9/1881 Chicago, IL 7. Joseph b. ~1803 m. unknown d. unknown 8. Samuel b. 6/7/1805 m. 9/14/1834 Miami Co. OH d. 8/10/1887 Thorntown, IN All children were born in Rockbridge Co. VA. All but Robert were named in the 1824 will of Isaiah. Robert had removed to Woodford Co. KY by that time. Of note, Robert moved to Woodford Co. KY where Capt. William/Eleanor ended up. James moved to Christian Co. KY where Guy Kinkead, son of Capt. William ended up. Still working on it, but I haven't tracked down what became of Rachel & Thomas Patton. I have no information on who this Thomas Patton. I also don't have any information on what became of Joseph Kinkead after 1824.

The only record is of Thomas Kinkead of Lancaster Co. PA who died in 1750 in Augusta Co. No proof that he's tied to my line, but I think it's possible he's a brother of John the Weaver. Regardless, if we forget Lancaster Co. PA, we still have Augusta Co. VA to Woodford Co. KY to Saline Co. MO. It's an interesting coincidence, if nothing more, that the Franciscos and my Kinkeads migrated at roughly the same time to those locations. It still strikes me as odd that no marriages between the two families have been discovered. > From: dutchtreat@prodigy.net > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 13:47:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francisco Family > > John, > What records do you have that tie your Kinkead line to Lancaster County, PA? > > Here is another connection of the Francisco family to the Frazier family > through this marriage: > > 1786--September 29, Captain George Frazer and Sally Francisco, daughter of > Geo. Francisco; surety, John Francisco. > Augusta County, Virginia Marriages - Frazer and Frazier - 1786-1844 > > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Kinkead > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:13 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Francisco Family > > > In my research, I've run across numerous connections between the Francisco > and Kinkead families. > > Some of these Franciscos migrated from Germany to Lancaster Co. PA to > Augusta Co. VA (1740s) to Woodford Co. KY (1780s) to Saline Co. MO. (1840). > > My Kinkead line also has ties to Lancaster Co. PA then to Augusta, Woodford > and Saline at roughly the same time. > > The sister of my 3rd great grandfather is found living with Mary > Francisco-Frazier, daughter of George Francisco and widow of Joseph Frazier > in 1850 and 1860 in Fayette Co. KY, and I have numerous Wills, Bonds, etc. > with both Kinkead and Francisco names. > > However, I've been unable to find any marriages between the two families. > It seems odd to me that families that migrated together and obviously > trusted each other wouldn't intermarry. > > I'm curious if anyone run across a Kinkead-Francisco marriage? > > Thanks, > John > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The rest of the results for 198598's upgrade to 67 markers have been returned. They match the Apparent Ancestral Values for Group A. His only variant from Group A AAV over the entire 67 markers is at marker 26 (DYS460). He has the 12 which places him in Set 1b. > Results for 198598's upgrade to 67 markers are starting to be returned. He > matches the rest of A1b who have upgraded in the 38-47 marker range. 19859 > is vetted to David/Winnifred. > > Sue Liedtke > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The following is pieced together from several sites and I cannot vouch for its accuracy. Andrew Lewis m Mary Calhoun was son of William Lewis b 1632 in Wales d 1658 in Ireland. He married Mary McClelland b 1638 England. Mary Calhoun b 1652 Corkagh, Donegal, Ireland d 1700 Co. Donegal m 1676 Co. Donegal. She was the dau of Robert Colquhoun b 1622 Scotland d 1666 Co. Donagal m Katherine Macauselan. Robert was son of Adam Colquhorn. Adam was son of Alastair Colquhoun b 1573 d 1617. Alestaire had a grant in Co. Donegal (Barony of Raphoe). He was son of Iain Colquhoun b 1528 Scotland d 1574 m Agnes Boyd, dau of Robert Boyd & Margaret Graham. Iain was son of Humphry Calquhoun b 1510 Dumbershire Scotland d 1538 m Helen Graham, dau of d William Graham & Annabel Drummand Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francisco Family > This helps explain the Lewis family that your John Francisco married into. > This may be the connection that connects your Kinkead family to County > Donegal. > > "The information you were asking for is as follows: Elizabeth Strother > Lewis > was the daughter of John Lewis (b.11-1-1749 d.1788) John and his wife > (unknown) had 4 children: Thomas L., Elizabeth S., Charles A., and John B. > John (the father) commanded a company at the Battle of Point > Pleasant,(Va., > now West Virginia) and was an officer under General George Washington. He > was at Valley Forge with Washington and was present at the surrender of > Cornwallis at Yorktown. He was seriously wounded at Point Pleasant in 1774 > and died in 1788. > > John Lewis was the son of Thomas Lewis b.4-27-1718 in > Ireland (Donnegal County) d. 1-31-1790 near Fort Republic in Rockingham > County, Va. He was very nearsighted and could not participate in military > affairs as his brothers and father had done, however he was a man of much > learning and ability, a member of the House of Burgesses and the Virginia > Conventions of 1775 and 1776. He m. Jane Strother (1732-1820) daughter of > William Strother of Stafford Co. Va. They had 13 Children. Thomas was the > son of John Lewis. John was b. 1678 in county Donnegal, Ireland, > d.2-1-1762 > in Staunton Va. He married Margaret Lynn (b.7-3-1693 in Ireland, d.1773 in > Staunton. John was the son of Andrew Lewis and Mary Calhoun. For any > further > information, may I suggest the book, John Lewis, Pioneer, by Irvin > Frazier. > This book has been a wonderful help to me. And now I know from your > information that we are cousins, distant but none the less, cousins. > Sincerely, Diane Blake" > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Strother::lewis::1709.html > > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:29 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francisco Family > > John Francisco was married to Elizabeth Strother Lewis, the daughter of > John > Lewis and Margaret Banks. > John Lewis's children were Thomas Lynn Lewis, John Banks Lewis, Charles > Augustus Lewis, and Elizabeth Strother Lewis. > This John Lewis was in Dunmore's War of 1774. Land in Warm Springs, > Virginia is included in this case. > > This information is in the Library of Virginia chancery cases for heirs of > John Lewis in the Augusta County, VA records. > Image 51/63 indicates that John Francisco and his wife Elizabeth Lewis > lived > in Kentucky in August, 1804. > Search under the name Francisco. > > Also an earlier case for George Franciscus indicates that George and John > were the sons of Christopher Franciscus/Francisco, the younger, son of > Christopher Franciscus of Lancaster County, PA. > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:47 PM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francisco Family > > John, > What records do you have that tie your Kinkead line to Lancaster County, > PA? > > Here is another connection of the Francisco family to the Frazier family > through this marriage: > > 1786--September 29, Captain George Frazer and Sally Francisco, daughter of > Geo. Francisco; surety, John Francisco. > Augusta County, Virginia Marriages - Frazer and Frazier - 1786-1844 > > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Kinkead > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:13 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Francisco Family > > > In my research, I've run across numerous connections between the Francisco > and Kinkead families. > > Some of these Franciscos migrated from Germany to Lancaster Co. PA to > Augusta Co. VA (1740s) to Woodford Co. KY (1780s) to Saline Co. MO. > (1840). > > My Kinkead line also has ties to Lancaster Co. PA then to Augusta, > Woodford > and Saline at roughly the same time. > > The sister of my 3rd great grandfather is found living with Mary > Francisco-Frazier, daughter of George Francisco and widow of Joseph > Frazier > in 1850 and 1860 in Fayette Co. KY, and I have numerous Wills, Bonds, etc. > with both Kinkead and Francisco names. > > However, I've been unable to find any marriages between the two families. > It seems odd to me that families that migrated together and obviously > trusted each other wouldn't intermarry. > > I'm curious if anyone run across a Kinkead-Francisco marriage? > > Thanks, > John > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This helps explain the Lewis family that your John Francisco married into. This may be the connection that connects your Kinkead family to County Donegal. "The information you were asking for is as follows: Elizabeth Strother Lewis was the daughter of John Lewis (b.11-1-1749 d.1788) John and his wife (unknown) had 4 children: Thomas L., Elizabeth S., Charles A., and John B. John (the father) commanded a company at the Battle of Point Pleasant,(Va., now West Virginia) and was an officer under General George Washington. He was at Valley Forge with Washington and was present at the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown. He was seriously wounded at Point Pleasant in 1774 and died in 1788. John Lewis was the son of Thomas Lewis b.4-27-1718 in Ireland (Donnegal County) d. 1-31-1790 near Fort Republic in Rockingham County, Va. He was very nearsighted and could not participate in military affairs as his brothers and father had done, however he was a man of much learning and ability, a member of the House of Burgesses and the Virginia Conventions of 1775 and 1776. He m. Jane Strother (1732-1820) daughter of William Strother of Stafford Co. Va. They had 13 Children. Thomas was the son of John Lewis. John was b. 1678 in county Donnegal, Ireland, d.2-1-1762 in Staunton Va. He married Margaret Lynn (b.7-3-1693 in Ireland, d.1773 in Staunton. John was the son of Andrew Lewis and Mary Calhoun. For any further information, may I suggest the book, John Lewis, Pioneer, by Irvin Frazier. This book has been a wonderful help to me. And now I know from your information that we are cousins, distant but none the less, cousins. Sincerely, Diane Blake" http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Strother::lewis::1709.html Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:29 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francisco Family John Francisco was married to Elizabeth Strother Lewis, the daughter of John Lewis and Margaret Banks. John Lewis's children were Thomas Lynn Lewis, John Banks Lewis, Charles Augustus Lewis, and Elizabeth Strother Lewis. This John Lewis was in Dunmore's War of 1774. Land in Warm Springs, Virginia is included in this case. This information is in the Library of Virginia chancery cases for heirs of John Lewis in the Augusta County, VA records. Image 51/63 indicates that John Francisco and his wife Elizabeth Lewis lived in Kentucky in August, 1804. Search under the name Francisco. Also an earlier case for George Franciscus indicates that George and John were the sons of Christopher Franciscus/Francisco, the younger, son of Christopher Franciscus of Lancaster County, PA. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:47 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francisco Family John, What records do you have that tie your Kinkead line to Lancaster County, PA? Here is another connection of the Francisco family to the Frazier family through this marriage: 1786--September 29, Captain George Frazer and Sally Francisco, daughter of Geo. Francisco; surety, John Francisco. Augusta County, Virginia Marriages - Frazer and Frazier - 1786-1844 Barbara -----Original Message----- From: John Kinkead Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:13 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Francisco Family In my research, I've run across numerous connections between the Francisco and Kinkead families. Some of these Franciscos migrated from Germany to Lancaster Co. PA to Augusta Co. VA (1740s) to Woodford Co. KY (1780s) to Saline Co. MO. (1840). My Kinkead line also has ties to Lancaster Co. PA then to Augusta, Woodford and Saline at roughly the same time. The sister of my 3rd great grandfather is found living with Mary Francisco-Frazier, daughter of George Francisco and widow of Joseph Frazier in 1850 and 1860 in Fayette Co. KY, and I have numerous Wills, Bonds, etc. with both Kinkead and Francisco names. However, I've been unable to find any marriages between the two families. It seems odd to me that families that migrated together and obviously trusted each other wouldn't intermarry. I'm curious if anyone run across a Kinkead-Francisco marriage? Thanks, John For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message