Some years ago, I posted this with proof refuting the statement that this William T. Kincaid's father was Archibald. This bio is in error as published most definitely. This William T. Kincaid is the son of Andrew Kincaid and Martha Townsley. -----Original Message----- >From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >Sent: Mar 12, 2014 1:48 PM >To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KINCAID] William T Kincaid of Carlisle County, PA, Kentucky & Greene County, Illinois > >I found this online and it refers to descendants of William T Kincaid of Greene County, Illinois. It mentions that his father was named Archibald. > > > > " Mr. Shumate was a second time married on the 20th of December, 1847, in Greene County, Ill., the lady of his choice being Miss Mary Kincaid, daughter of William T. Kincaid who was born in Carlisle County, Pa. Her grandfather, Archibald Kincaid, was born in Ireland, and at an early day went to Pennsylvania, where for some time he filled the office of Surveyor. He was a well educated man, a prominent citizen and an influential member of society. In the early history of Kentucky he removed with his family to that State where he developed two farms. In 1821 he came to Illinois, making a locating in Greene County, where he entered large tracts of land. He was a Presbyterian elder and a gentleman of most worthy character whose loss the community deeply mourned. The father of Mrs. Shumate remained in Pennsylvania until twelve years of age when he accompanied his family to Kentucky where he was married. He served in the War of 1812, andparticipated in the battle of! ! > Tippecanoe under Gen. Harrison. In 1818 he brought his wife and children to Illinois, which became a State in that year and entered land in Sinclair County. He was a man of great energy and of resolute purpose, and whatever he undertook was sure to accomplish. In connection with general farming he carried on stock raising and was very successful in the undertaking. In the fall of 1822 he removed to Greene County, where he improved a large farm, becoming one of the substantial citizens of the community. He was first a Whig and afterwards a Republican in politics, and in religious belief was a Presbyterian. He died in June, 1876, at the ripe old age of ninety years. His wife was born in Virginia and her father served in the Revolutionary War. He owned a number of slaves and about 1818 removed to Pike County, Mo., where he last days were spent. > Nine children were born to Mr. and Mrs. Kincaid - John M., a resident of Texas; Andrew K., who died in Galena, Ill.; Archibald, who died in Greene County; Mrs. Sallie Mitchell, of Greene County; Mary, wife of our subject; Jemima and Eliza, who died in Greene County; Mrs. Gabrilla Reeves, of Greene County; William L., who served the late war and is now living in Greene County. John M. was also in the late war for about three years." > >http://sangamon.illinoisgenweb.org/1891/shumate.htm > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could this be significant?  I can't view the document but I think it's the same Barbara 'cause of the birth year.  She is living with a John Heaton here.  Any relation to that Polly Heaton that was mentioned previously? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MXC3-B7V   Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com ________________________________ From: Courtney Kahler <ckinkead@yahoo.com> To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Guy H Kinkead of Greene Co, IL and Archibald G. Kinkead Oh thanks for that Barbara, that is helpful!  I can't seem to find more on the William Kinkead mentioned nor a maiden name for Barbara so I've been stuck.  Here's the page for the documents you mentioned that state William was deceased. http://www.andrew-and-archibald-kincaid.com/2013/03/31/1834-correspondence-re-barbara-kincaid/ Archie being born in Christian County KY matches what I had found somewhere (but I can't find it now) that Guy H was also born in Christian County, KY. Can't figure out anything past this point though, as we don't know Barbara's maiden name, and don't know which William Kincaid it is as there are gobs of them I'm sure.  I'm just going to have to make a trip someday to Kentucky I suppose and hope maybe I can find birth records.  =-)   Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com

Oh thanks for that Barbara, that is helpful!  I can't seem to find more on the William Kinkead mentioned nor a maiden name for Barbara so I've been stuck.  Here's the page for the documents you mentioned that state William was deceased. http://www.andrew-and-archibald-kincaid.com/2013/03/31/1834-correspondence-re-barbara-kincaid/ Archie being born in Christian County KY matches what I had found somewhere (but I can't find it now) that Guy H was also born in Christian County, KY. Can't figure out anything past this point though, as we don't know Barbara's maiden name, and don't know which William Kincaid it is as there are gobs of them I'm sure.  I'm just going to have to make a trip someday to Kentucky I suppose and hope maybe I can find birth records.  =-)   Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com ________________________________ From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: Courtney Kahler <ckinkead@yahoo.com>; kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Guy H Kinkead of Greene Co, IL and Archibald G. Kinkead Green County, IL probate records: Guy H Kinkead was a buyer at the estate sale of Richard M. Booker. Richard M Booker's daughter Lucy was married to Archibald G. Kinkead, who was likely the son of Barbara Kinkead. The 1850 Greene County, IL shows an Archie Kincaid, a. 19, living with Barbara Kincaid.  Letters on Randy's Andrew and Archibald website indicate that Barbara was married to a William Kinkead in Kentucky. The gravestone for for A. G. Kinkead and Lucy gives this information: Dr. A. G. Kinkead  Sept. 7, 1832  July 23, 1909 Lucy J. His Wife  Aug. 28, 1838  Jan. 9, 1929 There is another record record for A. G. Kinkead (Archibald) and Guy H. Kinkead was listed with him, possibly as security.  I will look for that record again Here is the obituary for Lucy Jane Kinkead that I found on ancestry.com Obit of Lucy Jane Booker Kinkead http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/39016492/person/19315224549/photox/81f4ed54-3e8b-4de8-a79d-dd08e1ff14b8?src=search .KINKAID, ARCHIBALD G  BOOKER, LUCY  1853-07-21  001  0108  00003228  GREENE KINKEAD, GUY H  PUNSLEY, MARTHA E (SEE PURSLEY)  1847-11-24  3    1191 MACOUPIN Greene County, IL Probate records 1852-1860 vol E https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17910-419-72?cc=1834344&wc=MDR8-V38:162587101,162644401 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-124642-83?cc=1834344&wc=MDR8-V38:162587101,162644401 What is interesting is that Archibald and Lucy also resided in Macoupin County, IL, bordering Greene County, and Archibald said that he was born in Christian County, KY, according to this record: Kinkead, A. G. Scottville Sctvlle Physician & Surgeon Christian Co., Ky. Kinkead, Lucy J. Booker Scottville Sctvlle w/o A.G. Kinkead Greene Co., IL http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilmaga/macoupin/1879pat/129.html Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Kahler Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:46 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois Think these folks are tied to my ancestor Guy H Kinkead but still haven't figure out how.  I am going to have to make a trip to Kentucky at some point which is where Guy was born.  But there should be some records with him in Greene Co, IL.  Genealogy stuff has been low on the priority list right now, but hopefully I can get back into it later in the year. Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com ________________________________ From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:32 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois Randall, I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probate packet for George Kincaid  to see if they have more than the books. Kim Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the > information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha > Townsley family. -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-request <kincaid-request@rootsweb.com> To: kincaid <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 Today's Topics:   1. Re: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 (Luis Castillo Jr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 10:35:08 -0700 From: Luis Castillo Jr <jeancsadler@me.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F7E0D967-DD95-4EA6-97DB-5BCE438BA26E@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Searching info on William Kincaid, (Kinkead, Kinkade) the Patriot and his descendants. Any info would be helpful. Jean Sadle > On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Kim Kincaid) >  2. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Alice Gedge) >  3. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Randall Kincaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1090A80B9E0A2-1AA8-1C2F5@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas.  I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and > Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3.  A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was > insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased.  There was a piece of property that was sold. > 4.  On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald > Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 > Sept 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871  signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush  23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California  and died Dec. 31,  1938 in Long Beach.  He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid  (Kit 122441) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:44:05 -0700 > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D443B956AF2B4134A78FA1DE7DF08485@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >    reply-type=original > > That was very kind of you, Kim. > > Alice Gedge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:25 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to > Kansas.  I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three > packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and > Archibald's > heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and > Susan. > 3.  A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was > insolvent > and that Margaret was now deceased.  There was a piece of property that > was > sold. > 4.  On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald > Kincaid > signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 > Sept > 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & > Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871  signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush  23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California  and died Dec. 31,  1938 in Long Beach.  He is > Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is > written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the > executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald > of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received > George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, > according to these documents." > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid  (Kit 122441) > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the > information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha > Townsley family. > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >> Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas.  I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and >> Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3.  A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of >> items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was >> insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased.  There was a piece of property that was sold. >> 4.  On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald >> Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 >> Sept 1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871  signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush  23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California  and died Dec. 31,  1938 in Long Beach.  He >> is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, >> is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid  (Kit 122441) >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 > ************************************** ------------------------------ To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Here is a rundown on George/Johannah Baldwin Kincaid as sent to me by Linda Purdue who believes their sons were Samuel B, William C, Willis F, John, and James. George b 1770-1775 and Johannah Baldwin married Nov 23, 1802 in Montgomery Co. KY. George Campbell Kincaid is the proven son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher Kincaid. The proof comes from a Greenbrier Co. VA court case where the heirs of Samuel Baldwin are suing Thomas Kincaid. Samuel Baldwin heirs, as listed in the case, include "George Kincaid & Johannah his wife late Johannah Baldwin". In a listing of Thomas's heirs (Hannah isn't named so may have died) in the suit Baldwin vs Kincaid , George Kincaid's name is followed by the note "(one of the plaintiffs)". In Greenbrier Chancery Court Case 141, Andrew Kincaid plaintiff vs Thomas, Francis & George Kincaid & John Bowyer Defts. Complaint dated 26 1817. In 1811 Thomas Sr sold 155a plus 35a to Andrew for $1000 saying he had previously sold all 190a to Francis [15 Aug 1810 deed Thomas Kincaid & wife Hannah to Francis Kincaid, 100a. 27 Aug 1811 deed from Francis and wife Nancy to Andrew 190a. 1818 Andrew and wife Rebecca to John Pearsy 120a more or less. The descrepancy of acreage is part of the court case]. On 24 Feb 1819 the heirs of Thomas decd along with his widow Hannah are summoned to give testemony as to why the case against Thomas dcd should not be revived against his heirs (same heirs listed as in Baldwin vs Kincaid. Hannah is not listed in that case so may have died). George, Francis & Thomas are not served as they are "no inhabitants of this state" In 1828 a report was given on the deposition of land contested in Chancery Court Case 145, Baldwin vs Kincaid, "Thomas Kincaid Sr conveyed 290a. to his son George Campbell Kincaid by deed bearing date 31st of Oct 1797...George Kincaid conveyed said 290a to Jacob Bunger by deed bearing date the 19th Oct 1809". After their marriage in 1802 George brought Johannah to his home in Greenbrier Co. VA where he is identifiable on the tax roles from 1795 through 1809. From Greenbrier deeds: In 1809 George Campbell Kincaid and wife Johannah sell to Jacob Bunger Muddy/Mill Creek land bought from Thomas & wife Hannah in 1797. George is associated with other names on the "heirs" list. In 1809 George & Johannah also sold land (granted to him in 1807) to William Kincaid. William & wife Mary Ann sold this land in 1811 (William m Mary Tincher 1802). William is noted in the heirs list refered to above as "(Greenbrier County)". The previous year George/Johannah sold land on Muddy Creek to Archible Campbell. George and Archibald Campbell both gave testemony for the 1798 marriage of Thomas Terry and Sarah Kincaid. John and Elizabeth Kincaid both signed the permission slip for Sarah to marry. On the heirs list John is followed by the note (lives in Nicholas). [VA not KY. Heirs Francis and Thomas are noted as "Indiana--Madison Township" so state would have been given if other than VA]. After selling their Grbr land George and Hannah moved to KY. In 1810 George (26-45) is in the Montgomery Co. KY census 1/0/0/1/0- 2/0/1/00. In 1820 George (45+) is in Bloomfied, Bath Co. KY 2/1/0/0/0/1- 1/2/0/1/0/0 as is a William (16-26) 1/0/1/0/0- 1/0/1/00). [Who is this William? In 1830 he is age 30-40 (b c1790-1800) 3/2/0/0/0/1- 0/2/0/0/0/1 and is still in Bath Co.?] In 1830 George (50-60) is in Nicholas Co. KY 0/0/0/2/0/0/0/1/0- 0/0/1/0/1/0/1/0/0. [If the 2 younger males are John & James b c1814 in the 1850 census below, where are Samuel B b c1809, William C b c1810-20, and Willis F b c1811?] Kincaids in the 1840 Nicholas Co. KY census are: Samuel B (30-40) 0/1/0/0/0/1- 1/1/0/0/1 William C ( 20-30) 0/0/0/0/1- 0/0/0/1 Willis F (20-30) 0/0/0/0/1- 0/0/0/0/1/1. In the 1850 Nicholas Co. KY census: Samuel B age 41 born VA. All others in the household b KY Nancy (39), William B (19), Mary E (16), Johannah (12), Martha A (9), Malinda E (6), Charles T (3), Sarah J (2 mo) Willis F age 39 b KY Juliann (27), Willaim B (4), Mary J (1), Mary (46) John age 36 b KY Pamela (31), William (6), Andrew (4), Polly (1) James age 36 b KY Eliza J (25, Ann (8), Alice (7), Susan (2), John W (2 mo) Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Kincaid" <rkincaid@sprynet.com> To: "Judy Roth" <jroth93947@yahoo.com>; <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] George Kincaid d1844 > That is a correct reading of the will. It appears that George had sold the > blacksmith tools to Archibald Kincaid of Pike Co, IL in a contract. As > that contract and the owed $50 was an asset, it was bequeathed as an asset > to George's "beloved wife, Polly." No other individuals are mentioned > within the body of the will and although Archibald Kincaid of Pike Co. is > mentioned twice, no relationship is indicated. > > In reviewing my own notes about this George, I see that I placed this > George as a probable son of Archibald Kincaid and Janette Townsley, not > Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley even though they settled in Greene County, > IL near the Andrew/Martha family. If George did have a son named > Archibald, this would lend credence to assigning George to > Archibald/Janette. > > Note that earlier Andrew/Archibald children listings included a George > Kincaid who married Johannah Morris Baldwin. This George was not a child > of Andrew or Archibald. > > There are some stray Kincaids that show up in mid-1800 censuses in > Carrollton, IL/Greene County that may or may not fit into the George/Polly > family group. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Judy Roth <jroth93947@yahoo.com> >>Sent: Mar 11, 2014 9:55 AM >>To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: [KINCAID] George Kincaid d1844 >> >>George Kincaid married Polly Heaton 9-15-1812 Bath Co, KY. Her guardian >>was William Caldwell. >>1820 - not found >>1830 Greene Co, IL - Taylor's Pct, p70-6, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 >>male 40-50, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 30-40 >>There is a land patent for a George Kincaid 4-22-1835 in Greene Co >>1840 Greene Co, IL - Taylor's Pct, p70-6, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 >>male 15-20, 1 male 50-60, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 40-50 >>1844 - 3 males 9-14, 1 male 14-19, 1 male 19-23, 1 female 19-23, 1 female >>24-34, Polly 44-54 >>1850 - not found >> >>1840 Pike Co, IL - p109-28, Thomas Kincaid 1 male 0-5, 1m 20-30, 1 female >>15-20 - who is he. >>Archibald Kincaid married Margaret Johnson 10-1-1842 in Pike Co, IL >> >>Is this a correct reading of George's 1844 will? George and Archibald of >>Pike Co had a contract stating if Archibald did not return blacksmith >>tools he was to pay $50. >> >>1850 Pike Co, IL - Thomas and Archibald Kincaid not found. >> >>Archibald Kincaid died March 1856. Margaret had died by 4-1857. An >>Elizabeth Johnson bought most of the estate and was listed as guardian of >>Russell and Susan until 1868 when William and Harrison Johnson were >>appointed guardians. Do Elizabeth, William and Harrison Johnson have a >>relationship with Margaret Johnson, wife of Archibald? >> >>For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >>www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is always a pleasure to send on news of our extended family doing good things. Don FAYETTE, Iowa (AP) — A former student has donated $1.65 million to help restore the cheerleading squad at Upper Iowa University. Officials at the northeast Iowa school say Diane Harms has established the Diane Kinkead Harms Cheer Endowment with $1.5 million and donated an additional $150,000 for immediate program support. The money will pay for a full-time head coach and operational expenses, with a goal of forming a competitive cheer team Harms and her husband, Steve Harms, graduated from the university in 1973. He'd played football there for four years, and she was a cheerleader there for three years.

Hi Sue, I have found a descendant of Russell Kingcade and she responded to my email. I've sent her links to our discussion. She has confirmed that Archibald was a blacksmith. It looks like I may have the opportunity to be in the Pike Co, IL area again on March 20th. I'll then be flying out again on the 21st and could probably head for Ft Wayne, IN, if information needs to be researched at that library. Kim

According to find-a-grave.com, the burial location of Guy Hunt Kinkead and his wife Isabel is at the Greenwood Cemetery in Christian County, IL. Kinkead, Guy H 72268429 b. 1824 d. 1875 Greenwood Cemetery Assumption Christian County Illinois, USA Kinkead, Isabel 72268491 b. 1830 d. 1904 Greenwood Cemetery Assumption Christian County Illinois, USA Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Kahler Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:58 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois It would be good to learn if this George and Polly had a relation to my great great great grandfather Guy. And he did state he was a blacksmith on one of the censuses. On another he said he was a merchant. So maybe he changed trades at some point. It was previously suggested there was a relation to a woman named Barbara Kincaid. And if she is his mother, then his father most likely died before 1850. Below is copied an old archived list email from Randy. On another note, I'm certain that Martha J "Punsley" as listed in the marriage record is actually Martha Jane Pursley. Martha Jane Pursley's sister Susan Pursley Cushing had a son named Samuel E Cushing, and he married Emma Lena Kinkead who was a daughter of Guy Kinkead (from his 2nd marriage with Isabel Lamb). Also Charles Richard Kinkead (son of Guy and Martha) married Leonora Bell Cushing who was a cousin to Samuel E Cushing. There's a few connections between the Kinkeads, Cushings, and Pursleys in that time frame, so they all must have been a close-knit group. Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com From: Randy Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> Sent: 02/04/03 04:36 PM To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Guy Kincaid: Christian Cty, KY > > This is a long shot but the following Illinois KINCAID/KINKEAD family > group may tie into this. I've kept track of them as they are in the same general area at the same time as my Kincaids, but I've never found an indication that they were related. To all appearances they are a different line. In many records, the following group is spelled KINKEAD; in some records KINCAID. Barbara Kincaid/Kinkead is in Greene Co., Illinois as early as 1834 when she purchases 80 acres with the Illinois record dated in March 1834 and a federal patent granted in 1835. On the land patent she is noted as "Barbara Kincaid of Greene Co., Illinois." KINCAID BARBARA FD W2SE 15 10N 10W 3 80.00 1.25 100.00 FEMALE 03/12/1834 GREENE 343 136 In the 1850 federal census, Barbara is found in Macoupin County, unknown Townships as follows: Barbara KINKEAD 56 F b. Ohio Jackson KINKEAD 21 Farmer M b. Kentucky Archie KINKEAD 19 Farmer M b. Kentucky Levi KINKEAD 22 Farmer M b. Kentucky Also in the 1850 federal census can be found Guy H. Kinkead, known to be Barbara's son from other records. He is found in Greene County, Macoupin & Apple Creek Township. Guy H. KINKEAD 25 M Blacksmith b. Kentucky Martha J. KINKEAD 22 F b. Kentucky Richard KINKEAD 1 M b. Illinois Mary F. KINKEAD 18 F b. Kentucky (Guy's sister, Barbara's daughter?) The given name Guy seems to be relegated to only a couple of Kincaid lines so this may be a good clue. Randy ________________________________ From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Barbara Van Hout) Are then any other known vitals for George that would help establish his age? What are the ages of the children in 1840? Can Polly be found in 1850? If some of the children were minors in 1844 then it would make sense for George to leave her the means of caring for them with the reliance that she would distribute the property among the children at her death. Then there is always the possibility that the children in the household were not George's children. Kim, it is always helpful to have a DNA participant from the line of an early Kincaid with unknown connections. Knowing who he is closely related to can help guide further research and expands our knowledge of the several Kincaid families. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara Van Hout) >I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 Greene > County, IL census. His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a connection > to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. > Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife > Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. > They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was > Mary > F. Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. > > The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female > children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to > inherit his land and possessions. If none of their children were included > in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children > to > contest the will? > > All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of the > will. > > George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > Who was Jefferson Dixon? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara > Van Hout) > > > HI Barbara, > > I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were > household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not > make > copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. > > If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in > Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in > Missouri to look for Kincaids. > > Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful to > me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my > husband's > Kincaid's did not. > > Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? > > Kim > > Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" > <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike > County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: > <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the > blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet?A > blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and > workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most > Important Man in the > Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original > Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: > kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, > IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and > find > the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the > books! > .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: > Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald > Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new > information. > I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In > George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald > Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint > his > "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools > are > bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be wrong > to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. > Where > the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified > relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could > be > a nephew, a cousi! > n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does > not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be > part > of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is a correct reading of the will. It appears that George had sold the blacksmith tools to Archibald Kincaid of Pike Co, IL in a contract. As that contract and the owed $50 was an asset, it was bequeathed as an asset to George's "beloved wife, Polly." No other individuals are mentioned within the body of the will and although Archibald Kincaid of Pike Co. is mentioned twice, no relationship is indicated. In reviewing my own notes about this George, I see that I placed this George as a probable son of Archibald Kincaid and Janette Townsley, not Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley even though they settled in Greene County, IL near the Andrew/Martha family. If George did have a son named Archibald, this would lend credence to assigning George to Archibald/Janette. Note that earlier Andrew/Archibald children listings included a George Kincaid who married Johannah Morris Baldwin. This George was not a child of Andrew or Archibald. There are some stray Kincaids that show up in mid-1800 censuses in Carrollton, IL/Greene County that may or may not fit into the George/Polly family group. Randy -----Original Message----- >From: Judy Roth <jroth93947@yahoo.com> >Sent: Mar 11, 2014 9:55 AM >To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [KINCAID] George Kincaid d1844 > >George Kincaid married Polly Heaton 9-15-1812 Bath Co, KY. Her guardian was William Caldwell. >1820 - not found >1830 Greene Co, IL - Taylor's Pct, p70-6, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 40-50, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 30-40 >There is a land patent for a George Kincaid 4-22-1835 in Greene Co >1840 Greene Co, IL - Taylor's Pct, p70-6, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 50-60, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 40-50 >1844 - 3 males 9-14, 1 male 14-19, 1 male 19-23, 1 female 19-23, 1 female 24-34, Polly 44-54 >1850 - not found > >1840 Pike Co, IL - p109-28, Thomas Kincaid 1 male 0-5, 1m 20-30, 1 female 15-20 - who is he. >Archibald Kincaid married Margaret Johnson 10-1-1842 in Pike Co, IL > >Is this a correct reading of George's 1844 will? George and Archibald of Pike Co had a contract stating if Archibald did not return blacksmith tools he was to pay $50. > >1850 Pike Co, IL - Thomas and Archibald Kincaid not found. > >Archibald Kincaid died March 1856. Margaret had died by 4-1857. An Elizabeth Johnson bought most of the estate and was listed as guardian of Russell and Susan until 1868 when William and Harrison Johnson were appointed guardians. Do Elizabeth, William and Harrison Johnson have a relationship with Margaret Johnson, wife of Archibald? > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George Kincaid married Polly Heaton 9-15-1812 Bath Co, KY. Her guardian was William Caldwell. 1820 - not found 1830 Greene Co, IL - Taylor's Pct, p70-6, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 40-50, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 30-40 There is a land patent for a George Kincaid 4-22-1835 in Greene Co 1840 Greene Co, IL - Taylor's Pct, p70-6, 3 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 50-60, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 20-30, 1 female 40-50 1844 - 3 males 9-14, 1 male 14-19, 1 male 19-23, 1 female 19-23, 1 female 24-34, Polly 44-54 1850 - not found 1840 Pike Co, IL - p109-28, Thomas Kincaid 1 male 0-5, 1m 20-30, 1 female 15-20 - who is he. Archibald Kincaid married Margaret Johnson 10-1-1842 in Pike Co, IL Is this a correct reading of George's 1844 will? George and Archibald of Pike Co had a contract stating if Archibald did not return blacksmith tools he was to pay $50. 1850 Pike Co, IL - Thomas and Archibald Kincaid not found. Archibald Kincaid died March 1856. Margaret had died by 4-1857. An Elizabeth Johnson bought most of the estate and was listed as guardian of Russell and Susan until 1868 when William and Harrison Johnson were appointed guardians. Do Elizabeth, William and Harrison Johnson have a relationship with Margaret Johnson, wife of Archibald?

It would be good to learn if this George and Polly had a relation to my great great great grandfather Guy.  And he did state he was a blacksmith on one of the censuses.  On another he said he was a merchant.  So maybe he changed trades at some point.  It was previously suggested there was a relation to a woman named Barbara Kincaid.  And if she is his mother, then his father most likely died before 1850.  Below is copied an old archived list email from Randy. On another note, I'm certain that Martha J "Punsley" as listed in the marriage record is actually Martha Jane Pursley.  Martha Jane Pursley's sister Susan Pursley Cushing had a son named Samuel E Cushing, and he married Emma Lena Kinkead who was a daughter of Guy Kinkead (from his 2nd marriage with Isabel Lamb).  Also Charles Richard Kinkead (son of Guy and Martha) married Leonora Bell Cushing who was a cousin to Samuel E Cushing.  There's a few connections between the Kinkeads, Cushings, and Pursleys in that time frame, so they all must have been a close-knit group. Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com From: Randy Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> Sent: 02/04/03 04:36 PM To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Guy Kincaid: Christian Cty, KY > > This is a long shot but the following Illinois KINCAID/KINKEAD family group may tie into this. I've kept track of them as they are in the same general area at the same time as my Kincaids, but I've never found an indication that they were related. To all appearances they are a different line. In many records, the following group is spelled KINKEAD; in some records KINCAID. Barbara Kincaid/Kinkead is in Greene Co., Illinois as early as 1834 when she purchases 80 acres with the Illinois record dated in March 1834 and a federal patent granted in 1835. On the land patent she is noted as "Barbara Kincaid of Greene Co., Illinois." KINCAID BARBARA FD W2SE 15 10N 10W 3 80.00 1.25 100.00 FEMALE 03/12/1834 GREENE 343 136 In the 1850 federal census, Barbara is found in Macoupin County, unknown Townships as follows: Barbara KINKEAD 56 F b. Ohio Jackson KINKEAD 21 Farmer M b. Kentucky Archie KINKEAD 19 Farmer M b. Kentucky Levi KINKEAD 22 Farmer M b. Kentucky Also in the 1850 federal census can be found Guy H. Kinkead, known to be Barbara's son from other records. He is found in Greene County, Macoupin & Apple Creek Township. Guy H. KINKEAD 25 M Blacksmith b. Kentucky Martha J. KINKEAD 22 F b. Kentucky Richard KINKEAD 1 M b. Illinois Mary F. KINKEAD 18 F b. Kentucky (Guy's sister, Barbara's daughter?) The given name Guy seems to be relegated to only a couple of Kincaid lines so this may be a good clue. Randy   ________________________________ From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Barbara Van Hout) Are then any other known vitals for George that would help establish his age? What are the ages of the children in 1840? Can Polly be found in 1850? If some of the children were minors in 1844 then it would make sense for George to leave her the means of caring for them with the reliance that she would distribute the property among the children at her death. Then  there is always the possibility that the children in the household were not George's children. Kim, it is always helpful to have a DNA participant from the line of an early Kincaid with unknown connections. Knowing who he is closely related to can help guide further research and expands our knowledge of the several Kincaid families. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara Van Hout) >I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 Greene > County, IL census.  His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a connection > to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. > Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife > Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. > They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was > Mary > F.  Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. > > The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female > children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to > inherit his land and possessions.  If none of their children were included > in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children > to > contest the will? > > All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of the > will. > > George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > Who was Jefferson Dixon? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara > Van Hout) > > > HI Barbara, > > I don't remember any blacksmith tools.  Items sold to the Johnson's were > household items, bed, a stove, etc.  I can stop back by, but I did not > make > copies.  A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. > > If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in > Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in > Missouri to look for Kincaids. > > Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful to > me.  I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my > husband's > Kincaid's did not. > > Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? > > Kim > > Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" > <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike > County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: > <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the > blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet?A > blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and > workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most > Important Man in the > Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original > Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: > kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, > IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and > find > the probatepacket for George Kincaid  to see if they have more than the > books! > .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: > Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald > Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new > information. > I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In > George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald > Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint > his > "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools > are > bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be wrong > to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. > Where > the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified > relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could > be > a nephew, a cousi! > n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does > not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be > part > of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are then any other known vitals for George that would help establish his age? What are the ages of the children in 1840? Can Polly be found in 1850? If some of the children were minors in 1844 then it would make sense for George to leave her the means of caring for them with the reliance that she would distribute the property among the children at her death. Then there is always the possibility that the children in the household were not George's children. Kim, it is always helpful to have a DNA participant from the line of an early Kincaid with unknown connections. Knowing who he is closely related to can help guide further research and expands our knowledge of the several Kincaid families. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara Van Hout) >I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 Greene > County, IL census. His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a connection > to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. > Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife > Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. > They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was > Mary > F. Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. > > The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female > children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to > inherit his land and possessions. If none of their children were included > in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children > to > contest the will? > > All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of the > will. > > George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > Who was Jefferson Dixon? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara > Van Hout) > > > HI Barbara, > > I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were > household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not > make > copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. > > If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in > Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in > Missouri to look for Kincaids. > > Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful to > me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my > husband's > Kincaid's did not. > > Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? > > Kim > > Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" > <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike > County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: > <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the > blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet?A > blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and > workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most > Important Man in the > Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original > Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: > kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, > IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and > find > the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the > books! > .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: > Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald > Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new > information. > I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In > George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald > Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint > his > "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools > are > bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be wrong > to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. > Where > the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified > relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could > be > a nephew, a cousi! > n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does > not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be > part > of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 Greene County, IL census. His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a connection to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was Mary F. Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to inherit his land and possessions. If none of their children were included in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children to contest the will? All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of the will. George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 Who was Jefferson Dixon? -----Original Message----- From: Kim Kincaid Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara Van Hout) HI Barbara, I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not make copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in Missouri to look for Kincaids. Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful to me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my husband's Kincaid's did not. Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? Kim Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet?A blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most Important Man in the Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the books! .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could be a nephew, a cousi! n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Barbara, I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not make copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in Missouri to look for Kincaids. Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful to me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my husband's Kincaid's did not. Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? Kim Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet?A blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most Important Man in the Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the books.KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily.

Kim, Were the blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate packet? A blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and work as an apprentice to become qualified. The Colonial Blacksmith: The Most Important Man in the Village http://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.html Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Kim Kincaid Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois Randall, I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probate packet for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the books. Kim Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the > information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha > Townsley family. -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-request <kincaid-request@rootsweb.com> To: kincaid <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 Today's Topics: 1. Re: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 (Luis Castillo Jr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 10:35:08 -0700 From: Luis Castillo Jr <jeancsadler@me.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F7E0D967-DD95-4EA6-97DB-5BCE438BA26E@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Searching info on William Kincaid, (Kinkead, Kinkade) the Patriot and his descendants. Any info would be helpful. Jean Sadle > On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Kim Kincaid) > 2. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Alice Gedge) > 3. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Randall Kincaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1090A80B9E0A2-1AA8-1C2F5@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and > Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was > insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. > 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald > Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 > Sept 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:44:05 -0700 > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D443B956AF2B4134A78FA1DE7DF08485@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > That was very kind of you, Kim. > > Alice Gedge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:25 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to > Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three > packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and > Archibald's > heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and > Susan. > 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was > insolvent > and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that > was > sold. > 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald > Kincaid > signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 > Sept > 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & > Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is > Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is > written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the > executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald > of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received > George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, > according to these documents." > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the > information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha > Townsley family. > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >> Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and >> Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of >> items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was >> insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. >> 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald >> Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 >> Sept 1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He >> is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, >> is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 > ************************************** ------------------------------ To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Randall, I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probate packet for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the books. Kim Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley family. -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-request <kincaid-request@rootsweb.com> To: kincaid <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 Today's Topics: 1. Re: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 (Luis Castillo Jr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 10:35:08 -0700 From: Luis Castillo Jr <jeancsadler@me.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F7E0D967-DD95-4EA6-97DB-5BCE438BA26E@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Searching info on William Kincaid, (Kinkead, Kinkade) the Patriot and his descendants. Any info would be helpful. Jean Sadle > On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Kim Kincaid) > 2. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Alice Gedge) > 3. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Randall Kincaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1090A80B9E0A2-1AA8-1C2F5@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. > 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:44:05 -0700 > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D443B956AF2B4134A78FA1DE7DF08485@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > That was very kind of you, Kim. > > Alice Gedge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:25 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to > Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three > packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's > heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent > and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was > sold. > 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid > signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept > 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & > Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is > Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is > written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the > executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald > of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received > George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, > according to these documents." > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley family. > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >> Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. >> 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 > ************************************** ------------------------------ To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Kim, I retrieved them years ago and posted transcriptions to the list. Randall. -----Original Message----- >From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >Sent: Mar 10, 2014 10:32 AM >To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > > > Randall, > >I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probate packet for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the books. > >Kim > > > >Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) >> From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information >in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois >will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record >does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states >that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, >Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems >likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is >the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not >George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no >relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. >> >> This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley >family. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: kincaid-request <kincaid-request@rootsweb.com> >To: kincaid <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am >Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 > > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 (Luis Castillo Jr) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 10:35:08 -0700 >From: Luis Castillo Jr <jeancsadler@me.com> >Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 >To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <F7E0D967-DD95-4EA6-97DB-5BCE438BA26E@me.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Searching info on William Kincaid, (Kinkead, Kinkade) the Patriot and his >descendants. >Any info would be helpful. >Jean Sadle > > > > >> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Kim Kincaid) >> 2. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Alice Gedge) >> 3. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Randall Kincaid) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) >> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8D1090A80B9E0A2-1AA8-1C2F5@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to >Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's >heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items >were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent >and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was >sold. >> 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid >signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept >1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & >Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is >Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is >written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the >executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of >Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's >set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these >documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:44:05 -0700 >> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <D443B956AF2B4134A78FA1DE7DF08485@OwnerPC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> That was very kind of you, Kim. >> >> Alice Gedge >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Kincaid >> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to >> Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three >> packets. >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's >> heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of >> items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent >> and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was >> sold. >> 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid >> signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept >> 1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & >> Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is >> Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is >> written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the >> executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald >> of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received >> George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, >> according to these documents." >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) >> From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information >in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois >will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record >does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states >that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, >Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems >likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is >the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not >George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no >relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. >> >> This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley >family. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >>> Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >>> >>> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to >Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >>> >>>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >>> >>> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >>> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >>> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's >heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >>> 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items >were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >>> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent >and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was >sold. >>> 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid >signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >>> >>> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >>> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept >1857 >>> >>> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >>> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & >Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >>> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >>> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >>> >>> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >>> living with the Washington Browdy Family >>> >>> Illinois Marriages >>> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >>> >>> Missouri Marriages >>> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >>> >>> Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is >Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >>> >>> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >>> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is >written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the >executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of >Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's >set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these >documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > >>> >>> I hope this information will help someone. >>> >>> Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to >> KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to >KINCAID@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 >> ************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to >KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to >KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the >email with no additional text. > > >End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 >************************************** > > > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Think these folks are tied to my ancestor Guy H Kinkead but still haven't figure out how.  I am going to have to make a trip to Kentucky at some point which is where Guy was born.  But there should be some records with him in Greene Co, IL.  Genealogy stuff has been low on the priority list right now, but hopefully I can get back into it later in the year.   Courtney Kahler www.chainedheartjewelry.com ________________________________ From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:32 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois Randall, I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and find the probate packet for George Kincaid  to see if they have more than the books. Kim Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: >    <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley family. -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-request <kincaid-request@rootsweb.com> To: kincaid <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am Subject: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 Today's Topics:   1. Re: KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 (Luis Castillo Jr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 10:35:08 -0700 From: Luis Castillo Jr <jeancsadler@me.com> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <F7E0D967-DD95-4EA6-97DB-5BCE438BA26E@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Searching info on William Kincaid, (Kinkead, Kinkade) the Patriot and his descendants. Any info would be helpful. Jean Sadle > On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > >  1. Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Kim Kincaid) >  2. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Alice Gedge) >  3. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Randall Kincaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1090A80B9E0A2-1AA8-1C2F5@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas.  I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets.    > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3.  A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased.  There was a piece of property that was sold. > 4.  On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871  signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush  23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California  and died Dec. 31,  1938 in Long Beach.  He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents."  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid  (Kit 122441) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:44:05 -0700 > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D443B956AF2B4134A78FA1DE7DF08485@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >    reply-type=original > > That was very kind of you, Kim. > > Alice Gedge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:25 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to > Kansas.  I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three > packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's > heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3.  A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent > and that Margaret was now deceased.  There was a piece of property that was > sold. > 4.  On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid > signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept > 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & > Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871  signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush  23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California  and died Dec. 31,  1938 in Long Beach.  He is > Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is > written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the > executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald > of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received > George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, > according to these documents." > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid  (Kit 122441) > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: >    <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley family. > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >> Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas.  I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets.    >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3.  A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased.  There was a piece of property that was sold. >> 4.  On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871  signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush  23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California  and died Dec. 31,  1938 in Long Beach.  He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents."  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid  (Kit 122441) >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 > ************************************** ------------------------------ To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 44 ************************************** For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching info on William Kincaid, (Kinkead, Kinkade) the Patriot and his descendants. Any info would be helpful. Jean Sadle > On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Kim Kincaid) > 2. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Alice Gedge) > 3. Re: Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Randall Kincaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:25:15 -0500 (EST) > From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1090A80B9E0A2-1AA8-1C2F5@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. > 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:44:05 -0700 > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@centurylink.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D443B956AF2B4134A78FA1DE7DF08485@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > That was very kind of you, Kim. > > Alice Gedge > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Kincaid > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:25 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > > I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to > Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three > packets. > >> From the papers in these packets I found the following information > > Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid > 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. > 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's > heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. > 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of > items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson > 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent > and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was > sold. > 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid > signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > > Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid > - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept > 1857 > > Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid > - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & > Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 > - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 > - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > > 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois > living with the Washington Browdy Family > > Illinois Marriages > Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > > Missouri Marriages > Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > > Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is > Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > > Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: > " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is > written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the > executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald > of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received > George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, > according to these documents." > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > > I hope this information will help someone. > > Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. > > This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley family. > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >> Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> >> I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. >> >>> From the papers in these packets I found the following information >> >> Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >> 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >> 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >> 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >> 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. >> 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. >> >> Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >> - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 >> >> Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >> - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >> - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >> - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade >> >> 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >> living with the Washington Browdy Family >> >> Illinois Marriages >> Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois >> >> Missouri Marriages >> Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois >> >> Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade >> >> Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >> " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >> >> I hope this information will help someone. >> >> Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 43 > **************************************

I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. >From the papers in these packets I found the following information Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid 1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. 2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. 3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson 3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. 4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid - Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid - A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 - William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 - Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade 1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois living with the Washington Browdy Family Illinois Marriages Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois Missouri Marriages Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: " The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 I hope this information will help someone. Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441)

Kim, this is good new information. I do need to again correct the information in Barbara's original post. In George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinois will/probate record Archibald Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. The record does specifically appoint his "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simply states that the blacksmith tools are bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois". It would be wrong to assign Archibald as George's son as it seems likely that he is not. Where the will specifies the relationship to Polly, it is the lack of a specified relationship that makes it likely Archibald is not George's son. It could be a nephew, a cousin or other relationship or no relationship. The fact is that will does not specify any children whatsoever. This family group is likely to be part of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha Townsley family. -----Original Message----- >From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> >Sent: Mar 8, 2014 10:25 AM >To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >Subject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois > >I had the chance to stop at the Pike County Courthouse on my way home to Kansas. I checked the Probate Records for Kincaid's and found three packets. > >>From the papers in these packets I found the following information > >Probate Packet 732 - Archibald Kincaid >1. Archibald died intestate, March of 1856. >2. In July 1856, Albert St John was appointed administrator and Archibald's heirs were listed as his wife Margaret and minor children Russell and Susan. >3. A sale bill of household items is in the packet and the majority of items were purchased by Elizabeth Johnson >3. On 10 April 1857 the administrator reported that the estate was insolvent and that Margaret was now deceased. There was a piece of property that was sold. >4. On the promissory notes present in the probate packet, Archibald Kincaid signed his name Arch or Archibald Kincaid. > >Probate Packet 365 - Minor, Russell Kincaid >- Elizabeth Johnson appointed Guardian of Russell & Susan Kincaid on 8 Sept 1857 > >Probate Packet 374 - Minor, Susan Kincaid >- A document lists the dates of birth - Susan Kingcade born June 1852 & Russell Kingcade born 23 May 1850 >- William & Harrison Johnson appointed Guardians on 23 Dec 1868 >- Final Settlement 7 Oct 1871 signed by both Russell and Susan Kingcade > >1870 Census Hardin, Pike, Illinois >living with the Washington Browdy Family > >Illinois Marriages >Archibald Kinkaid & Margaret Johnson 1 Dec 1842, Pike County, Illinois > >Missouri Marriages >Russell Kinkade & Mary E Thrush 23 Sept 1871, Audrain County, Illinois > >Russell moved to California and died Dec. 31, 1938 in Long Beach. He is Find A Grave memorial 103183488 Russell Kingcade > >Barbara Van Hout, in a post from 23 Aug 2013 states: >" The will of George Kincaid of Greene County, IL, dated Feb. 28, 1844, is written on the family search page below. His wife Polly Kincaid was the executrix. George gave everything to his wife Polly, and his son Archibald of Pike County, IL is the only child mentioned. Archibald was to received George's set of blacksmith tools. George had died by Oct. 21, 1844, according to these documents." https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 > >I hope this information will help someone. > >Kim Kincaid (Kit 122441) > >For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > >www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message