Peter, Many thanks for your very interesting video. I look forward to more! Anne Sonner (great-great-granddaughter of Laura Kincaid Seaman Meade) On 04/14/14, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel (Peter Kincaid) 2. Re: Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel (Richard Kinkead) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 12:33:38 -0300 From: "Peter Kincaid" <[1]7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> Subject: [KINCAID] Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel To: <[2]KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <ECDF89F0FBB6402BB192DE6721A7A244@BonniePC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello everyone, I started a Youtube/Google+ channel called Kyncades. It is at: [3]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw Here I will upload videos dealing with our Kincaid origins and history. I uploaded a video today on the location of the bookshop of Alexander Kincaid. The next one hopefully will deal with the location of the mansion of Thomas Kincaid of Coates, constable of Edinburgh Castle. I am doing this as I feel some topics are best presented visually in video or pictorial format. Furthermore, I have a harder time actually writing things versus discussing things this way. All are welcome to subscribe and discuss the videos on the channel. If you have a preference for something to be discussed in video format let me know. Best wishes! Peter ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:09:24 -0400 From: "Richard Kinkead" <[4]rkinkead11@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel To: <[5]kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <20651FE0909E41ECBA4665F0FB6933B8@Desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, Peter. Dick K. From: Peter Kincaid Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:33 AM To: [6]KINCAID@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel Hello everyone, I started a Youtube/Google+ channel called Kyncades. It is at: [7]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw Here I will upload videos dealing with our Kincaid origins and history. I uploaded a video today on the location of the bookshop of Alexander Kincaid. The next one hopefully will deal with the location of the mansion of Thomas Kincaid of Coates, constable of Edinburgh Castle. I am doing this as I feel some topics are best presented visually in video or pictorial format. Furthermore, I have a harder time actually writing things versus discussing things this way. All are welcome to subscribe and discuss the videos on the channel. If you have a preference for something to be discussed in video format let me know. Best wishes! Peter For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: [8]www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [9]KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [10]KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 79 ************************************** References 1. mailto:7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca 2. mailto:KINCAID@rootsweb.com 3. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw 4. mailto:rkinkead11@comcast.net 5. mailto:kincaid@rootsweb.com 6. mailto:KINCAID@rootsweb.com 7. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw 8. http://www.kincaiddna.org/ 9. mailto:KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com 10. mailto:KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com

Larry, We are currently working with University of Glasgow to find Professors who would be willing to help us get dna samples from the Kincaid men in Campsie Parish Cemetery. Our contact with the politicians for Campsie did not know how we could go about getting approval to get the samples so hopefully the anthropology or other specialty profs will know how to do this. If we are successful we will know the dna of the Kincaid's of Kincaid and thus find out which Kincaid dna group descends from them. Don W -----Original Message----- From: Larry Kincaid Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 8:06 AM To: Richard Kinkead ; kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel Thanks, Peter. I'm definitely not used to YouTub blogs like this one. At first it seemed odd to me. Couldn't figure out why you just didn't do it all with written text, the old fashioned way. Then you started "showing' all of those interesting documents and drawings and it suddenly became very clear to me. It really helped to be able to "see" what you were talking about. And then the narrative you added helped us to interpret the drawings and other actual historical text you were showing. I also jotted down some of the sources of the material you were showing so I could look for them on the web myself. So, I ended up liking it quite a bit. What I didn't like was Alexander not having any male descendants living today, but I guess YouTube has some limitations. Thanks for taking time to do this for us. A great resource. On another note, I have some nice photos from my visit of the tombstones in Campsie Parish. After reading all of the latest breakthroughs in dna analysis of buried remains, I could not help wishing that we had dna samples from the Kincaid's in Campsie Parish. Are all of the Kincaid DNA groups A to . . . represented there? Or just one, or two? Larry (Don) Kincaid, Group C-2 On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Richard Kinkead <rkinkead11@comcast.net>wrote: > Thanks, Peter. > > Dick K. > > From: Peter Kincaid > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:33 AM > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel > > Hello everyone, > > I started a Youtube/Google+ channel called Kyncades. It is at: > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw > > Here I will upload videos dealing with our Kincaid origins and > history. I uploaded a video today on the location of the > bookshop of Alexander Kincaid. The next one hopefully will > deal with the location of the mansion of Thomas Kincaid of Coates, > constable of Edinburgh Castle. > > I am doing this as I feel some topics are best presented visually > in video or pictorial format. Furthermore, I have a harder time > actually writing things versus discussing things this way. > > All are welcome to subscribe and discuss the videos on the > channel. > > If you have a preference for something to be discussed in video > format let me know. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- dddddddd For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Peter. Dick K. From: Peter Kincaid Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:33 AM To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Launch of Kyncades Youtube channel Hello everyone, I started a Youtube/Google+ channel called Kyncades. It is at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw Here I will upload videos dealing with our Kincaid origins and history. I uploaded a video today on the location of the bookshop of Alexander Kincaid. The next one hopefully will deal with the location of the mansion of Thomas Kincaid of Coates, constable of Edinburgh Castle. I am doing this as I feel some topics are best presented visually in video or pictorial format. Furthermore, I have a harder time actually writing things versus discussing things this way. All are welcome to subscribe and discuss the videos on the channel. If you have a preference for something to be discussed in video format let me know. Best wishes! Peter For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I started a Youtube/Google+ channel called Kyncades. It is at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClq6a4Px8LVot5VA8J0ythw Here I will upload videos dealing with our Kincaid origins and history. I uploaded a video today on the location of the bookshop of Alexander Kincaid. The next one hopefully will deal with the location of the mansion of Thomas Kincaid of Coates, constable of Edinburgh Castle. I am doing this as I feel some topics are best presented visually in video or pictorial format. Furthermore, I have a harder time actually writing things versus discussing things this way. All are welcome to subscribe and discuss the videos on the channel. If you have a preference for something to be discussed in video format let me know. Best wishes! Peter

Results are in for the 38-67 markers of #1261's upgrade to 111 markers. He matches the Group A AAV exactly on these markers. On the 1-37 markers he has 2 variations, one of which is isolated by #117939's results. The other, a 40 at marker 35 (CDYb), appears in both results. #1267 and #117939 are vetted to John Kincaid b c1807 Greenbrier Co VA d prior 1840 m 1830-2 Cina Vance. Their common ancestor Simon, the only son of John/Cina, is definitly part of the Fayette Co. community, however, definative proof tying him to Thomas/Hannah Tincher of Greenbrier Co. has not been found. There is a possability that John/Cina was the son of Thomas/Hannah's youngest son William m 18 March 1802 Grbr Co. Mary Ann Tincher. Sue Liedtke

The Bible says James Jr. Wife named Jennet suggests this is the correct family. James d 1768 may be grandfather. Chain of thought with possibly relevant names: Appraiser John Ramsey owned land (devised in his 1783) will between John Patrick & John Black. His appraisement was by John Black, Wm Gillespy, Wm Finley and Thos.Turk. John's wife, Mary Ramsey died in Alb Co. in 1785. Appraiser John Black may be the one who in 1746 bought from James Davis 375a in the eastern area of Beverly Manor. James Gillespie's estate (210a & adj 208a surveyed 1740) was near the 375a. Could the 3rd appraiser be John Davis Jr instead of John Davidson Jr? I have Davis in my notes. John Ramsey bought land on the Cow Pasture from Hugh Coffee's heir John of NC in 1766. Thomas/Hannah Kincaid sold their Albemarle land to Benjamin Coffee. Danial O'Harrah sold his Alb land to Thomas Coffee. Danial OHarrah and wife Elizabeth [probably the Danial who m Eliz Ramsey 1745 Dunmore Twnship, Lancaster Co. PA. Danial's father lived next to Robert Ramsey. Danial is mentioned in a Robert Ramsey's Augusta Co. will] sold land to Alex Miller "on a branch of the Cowpasture" in 1767. Danial O'Harrah was the father of Danial/Elizabeth Kincaid, and Charles/Margaret Kincaid. Danial held land in Albemarle Co.(1771-5) next to the land Thomas/Hannah Tincher Kincaid held (1765-1771). Danial O'Hara and Andrew Kincaid of Alb were sued in 1772 by Woods for a note taken out 10 yrs prior. [Andrew's wife Mary may have been a Ramsey]. Thomas & Benj Coffee witnessed sale of Alb land by Andrew/Mary Kincaid in 1767. Danial Harrah and sons are in Grbr Co. by the early 1780's. I wonder what happened to James Gillaspie Jr. and who the following Thomas and Hugh are?. Thomas & Hugh Gillespie held land near the mouth of Stuart Creek on the Cowpasture. William Gillespy near "the Forks" of the Cowpasture. The 1782 Personal Property Tax for the Cowpasture lists Samuel, Thomas and John Gillespie.. The 1785 will of Thomas names wife Eleanor and children: John, Thomas, Jacob, Samuel, James, William, Mary Donally, Hannah Jones, Jane, Eleanor and Ann. The Bath Co. 1791 list of Samuel Vance has Jacob, Samuel, Wm and John on it. The early Gillespies in Greenbrier were Thomas and Hugh. No James. Sue Liedtke . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Info on #332094 >I found information about a James Gillespie in Chalkley's Chronicles. Was > this the James Gillespie of the Bible record? > > > Page 263.--5th September, 1768. James Gilaspey's will, farmer--To > wife Jennet; to son John, plantation John now lives on; to son James, > plantation James now lives on; to son William, plantation William now > lives > on, but if William should die before his present wife, then to William's > children; to brother John's children, if they should come for it (they are > in Ireland); to 5 children, viz: John, James, William, Agness and > Elizabeth > Executors, sons John, James, William Gilaspy and Edward Hall. > Teste: Elenor Hall, Sarah Hall, Ben. Stewart. Proved, 20th October, > 1769, by Elenor Hall and Benj. Stewart. Edward Hall and Wm. Gillespey > qualify, with Ben. Stewart and John Hamilton. > > Page 268.--21st November, 1769. Appraisement recorded of James > Gillespie's estate, by John Ramsey, John Black, John Davidson, Jr. > > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/augusta/court/3court11.txt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:51 PM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Info on #332094 > > I have now placed #332094's results in the A1a subgroup on the FTDNA > chart. > When I send a new chart to Grant in mid May, he will appear in the Fayette > section. His 1-37 marker results are straight Group A Apparent Ancestral > Value. He is believed to descend from Thomas b c1742 d 1817 Grbr Co. VA m > c1760 Hannah Tincher thru their son Samuel m 1785 Mary Tinche thru > Samuel's > son William m 1810 Jinnet (Jane/Virginia) Kincaid (dau of John/Elizabeth > Gillespie Kincaid). > > While we have quite a few participants believing descent from Samuel, they > all descend through Thomas/Polly Davis. Attempts to vet Thomas/Polly to > Samuel of the 3 Wives (Mary Tincher/Huldah Osborne/Diana Ewing) has met > with > opposition. Since William and wife Jane are listed on the 16th June 1849 > deed from Samuel's heirs to John Guinn, it is hoped the vetting post the > researcher intends to create later this year will have a better reception. > She hopes to address previous objections with additional clarity.. > > Meanwhile some documentation in support of the claim. > > Grbr Marriage bond: Kincaid, William and Kincaid, Jannet. Bond dated 17 > Nov > 1810 by William Kincaid & Thomas Kincaid. Permission slip from John > Kincaid > for Jinnet to marry. testemony by Thomas Kincaid, Francis Kincaid. > Testemony > that William is over 21 by Thomas Kincaid. > > Gillespie Bible > Inscription: "James Galaspe Jr. his Book, July 20, 1760 Cow Pasture > Augusta, > God grant Blesings to thes person in Vir, Elisabeth Hanna Kincaid John > Kincaid. Selected entries: > Elizabeth Gillisapy was born May 31st 1760 > 1829 > 1760 > 69. > John Kincaid was Born March the 10 day on Tusday 1761 > John A Kincaid was Born the 20 January on this day 1820 Son of William > Kincaid and Jane > [partipant is descendent of John A Kincaid] > > 1850 Fayette Co. Dist 14 census > HH 66 Kincaid William 63, Jane 55, Wm B 28, Elizabeth 21, James A 18, > George > C 16, George V 12 > > 1860 Fayetteville census > HH 317 Kincaid John A 40, Sarah 41, Alfred H. 18, Margaret J 14, Nancy E > 13, James H 11, Sarah E. 8, Lewis E 5, Jonathan V 1 Augustus F 1 > [James H ( James W 30 on 1880 census and in researcher's records) was > ancestor of participant] > > A 27th day of April 1850 additon to the 1849 deed of heirs says that > William > Kincaid & Jane his wife along with the other Fayette Co heirs acknowledged > to Charles Hughart & William Guinn that they signed the deed. Each heir > sold > 1/14th of the property left by Samuel at his death. > > On 5 Aug 1847 William Kincaid of Fayette Co. alone executed a deed for the > same land (1/14th part) "tract on which Samuel Sr.did formally live and on > which Diana Kincaid now resides." Samuel Kincaid (also on 1849 deed) > executed a deed with same wording to John Guinn on Sep 1, 1847 > __________________________ > Researcher will be looking for additional documentation for link from > Samuel > to Thomas/Hannah, however, a GPS proof may be all that is possible. > > Marriage Bonds > Kincaid, Samuel and Tincher, Mary. Bonds dated 17th day of June 1785 > signed > by Samuel Kincaid and Daniel Harra. No permission slips. > Kincaid, Samuel and Osburn, Huldah. Bonds dated 13th day of March 1802 > posted by Samuel Kincaid and John Butler > Samuel Kincaid and Diana Ewing were married 1828 in Monroe Co. VA > [note: William Kincaid b c1787. Danial Hurrah m Elizabeth Kincaid, dau of > Thomas/Hannah]] > > Deeds > 24 April 1792 Thomas Kincaid and wife Hannah 207a for 5 sh to Samuel > Kincaid > on Muddy Ck part of survey to David McDowell adj. Griffits, John Kincaid. > 12/4/1816 Samuel Kincaid and Huldy his wife to Thomas Bennett, 12a on > Muddy > adj. John Butler > 12/4/1816 Samuel Kincaid and Huldy his wife to John Butler, 195a on waters > of Muddy being part of a survey of 1000a made for Daniel McDowell adj. > Thomas Bennett > > Circuit Court Case 147. Heirs of Richard F. Tyree pltff vs John Butler, > Thomas & Samuel Kincaid, etc. Suit concerned a possible survey error > affecting the 240a mentioned below. > In testemony John Butler says his 1st wife was sister of Robert Harrah. > [Rbt > was son of Charles m Margaret Kincaid, dau of Thomas/Hannah. John Butler m > Elizabeth Harrah 1802] > Testemony by Samuel Kincaid in response to Butler's questioning shows that > John Butler traded 240a [1811 grant 240a to Butler on Ephraim's Creek] to > Samuel who traded it to Tyree for the land in the 1849 deed of heirs. > [Deed > from Butler to Sam not yet found] > Testemony by Thomas Kincaid, son of Sam, indicates that if Tyree were to > gain the suit, he would expect to get part of the Muddy Creek land. > > Sue Liedtke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found information about a James Gillespie in Chalkley's Chronicles. Was this the James Gillespie of the Bible record? Page 263.--5th September, 1768. James Gilaspey's will, farmer--To wife Jennet; to son John, plantation John now lives on; to son James, plantation James now lives on; to son William, plantation William now lives on, but if William should die before his present wife, then to William's children; to brother John's children, if they should come for it (they are in Ireland); to 5 children, viz: John, James, William, Agness and Elizabeth Executors, sons John, James, William Gilaspy and Edward Hall. Teste: Elenor Hall, Sarah Hall, Ben. Stewart. Proved, 20th October, 1769, by Elenor Hall and Benj. Stewart. Edward Hall and Wm. Gillespey qualify, with Ben. Stewart and John Hamilton. Page 268.--21st November, 1769. Appraisement recorded of James Gillespie's estate, by John Ramsey, John Black, John Davidson, Jr. ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/augusta/court/3court11.txt -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Info on #332094 I have now placed #332094's results in the A1a subgroup on the FTDNA chart. When I send a new chart to Grant in mid May, he will appear in the Fayette section. His 1-37 marker results are straight Group A Apparent Ancestral Value. He is believed to descend from Thomas b c1742 d 1817 Grbr Co. VA m c1760 Hannah Tincher thru their son Samuel m 1785 Mary Tinche thru Samuel's son William m 1810 Jinnet (Jane/Virginia) Kincaid (dau of John/Elizabeth Gillespie Kincaid). While we have quite a few participants believing descent from Samuel, they all descend through Thomas/Polly Davis. Attempts to vet Thomas/Polly to Samuel of the 3 Wives (Mary Tincher/Huldah Osborne/Diana Ewing) has met with opposition. Since William and wife Jane are listed on the 16th June 1849 deed from Samuel's heirs to John Guinn, it is hoped the vetting post the researcher intends to create later this year will have a better reception. She hopes to address previous objections with additional clarity.. Meanwhile some documentation in support of the claim. Grbr Marriage bond: Kincaid, William and Kincaid, Jannet. Bond dated 17 Nov 1810 by William Kincaid & Thomas Kincaid. Permission slip from John Kincaid for Jinnet to marry. testemony by Thomas Kincaid, Francis Kincaid. Testemony that William is over 21 by Thomas Kincaid. Gillespie Bible Inscription: "James Galaspe Jr. his Book, July 20, 1760 Cow Pasture Augusta, God grant Blesings to thes person in Vir, Elisabeth Hanna Kincaid John Kincaid. Selected entries: Elizabeth Gillisapy was born May 31st 1760 1829 1760 69. John Kincaid was Born March the 10 day on Tusday 1761 John A Kincaid was Born the 20 January on this day 1820 Son of William Kincaid and Jane [partipant is descendent of John A Kincaid] 1850 Fayette Co. Dist 14 census HH 66 Kincaid William 63, Jane 55, Wm B 28, Elizabeth 21, James A 18, George C 16, George V 12 1860 Fayetteville census HH 317 Kincaid John A 40, Sarah 41, Alfred H. 18, Margaret J 14, Nancy E 13, James H 11, Sarah E. 8, Lewis E 5, Jonathan V 1 Augustus F 1 [James H ( James W 30 on 1880 census and in researcher's records) was ancestor of participant] A 27th day of April 1850 additon to the 1849 deed of heirs says that William Kincaid & Jane his wife along with the other Fayette Co heirs acknowledged to Charles Hughart & William Guinn that they signed the deed. Each heir sold 1/14th of the property left by Samuel at his death. On 5 Aug 1847 William Kincaid of Fayette Co. alone executed a deed for the same land (1/14th part) "tract on which Samuel Sr.did formally live and on which Diana Kincaid now resides." Samuel Kincaid (also on 1849 deed) executed a deed with same wording to John Guinn on Sep 1, 1847 __________________________ Researcher will be looking for additional documentation for link from Samuel to Thomas/Hannah, however, a GPS proof may be all that is possible. Marriage Bonds Kincaid, Samuel and Tincher, Mary. Bonds dated 17th day of June 1785 signed by Samuel Kincaid and Daniel Harra. No permission slips. Kincaid, Samuel and Osburn, Huldah. Bonds dated 13th day of March 1802 posted by Samuel Kincaid and John Butler Samuel Kincaid and Diana Ewing were married 1828 in Monroe Co. VA [note: William Kincaid b c1787. Danial Hurrah m Elizabeth Kincaid, dau of Thomas/Hannah]] Deeds 24 April 1792 Thomas Kincaid and wife Hannah 207a for 5 sh to Samuel Kincaid on Muddy Ck part of survey to David McDowell adj. Griffits, John Kincaid. 12/4/1816 Samuel Kincaid and Huldy his wife to Thomas Bennett, 12a on Muddy adj. John Butler 12/4/1816 Samuel Kincaid and Huldy his wife to John Butler, 195a on waters of Muddy being part of a survey of 1000a made for Daniel McDowell adj. Thomas Bennett Circuit Court Case 147. Heirs of Richard F. Tyree pltff vs John Butler, Thomas & Samuel Kincaid, etc. Suit concerned a possible survey error affecting the 240a mentioned below. In testemony John Butler says his 1st wife was sister of Robert Harrah. [Rbt was son of Charles m Margaret Kincaid, dau of Thomas/Hannah. John Butler m Elizabeth Harrah 1802] Testemony by Samuel Kincaid in response to Butler's questioning shows that John Butler traded 240a [1811 grant 240a to Butler on Ephraim's Creek] to Samuel who traded it to Tyree for the land in the 1849 deed of heirs. [Deed from Butler to Sam not yet found] Testemony by Thomas Kincaid, son of Sam, indicates that if Tyree were to gain the suit, he would expect to get part of the Muddy Creek land. Sue Liedtke For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have now placed #332094's results in the A1a subgroup on the FTDNA chart. When I send a new chart to Grant in mid May, he will appear in the Fayette section. His 1-37 marker results are straight Group A Apparent Ancestral Value. He is believed to descend from Thomas b c1742 d 1817 Grbr Co. VA m c1760 Hannah Tincher thru their son Samuel m 1785 Mary Tinche thru Samuel's son William m 1810 Jinnet (Jane/Virginia) Kincaid (dau of John/Elizabeth Gillespie Kincaid). While we have quite a few participants believing descent from Samuel, they all descend through Thomas/Polly Davis. Attempts to vet Thomas/Polly to Samuel of the 3 Wives (Mary Tincher/Huldah Osborne/Diana Ewing) has met with opposition. Since William and wife Jane are listed on the 16th June 1849 deed from Samuel's heirs to John Guinn, it is hoped the vetting post the researcher intends to create later this year will have a better reception. She hopes to address previous objections with additional clarity.. Meanwhile some documentation in support of the claim. Grbr Marriage bond: Kincaid, William and Kincaid, Jannet. Bond dated 17 Nov 1810 by William Kincaid & Thomas Kincaid. Permission slip from John Kincaid for Jinnet to marry. testemony by Thomas Kincaid, Francis Kincaid. Testemony that William is over 21 by Thomas Kincaid. Gillespie Bible Inscription: "James Galaspe Jr. his Book, July 20, 1760 Cow Pasture Augusta, God grant Blesings to thes person in Vir, Elisabeth Hanna Kincaid John Kincaid. Selected entries: Elizabeth Gillisapy was born May 31st 1760 1829 1760 69. John Kincaid was Born March the 10 day on Tusday 1761 John A Kincaid was Born the 20 January on this day 1820 Son of William Kincaid and Jane [partipant is descendent of John A Kincaid] 1850 Fayette Co. Dist 14 census HH 66 Kincaid William 63, Jane 55, Wm B 28, Elizabeth 21, James A 18, George C 16, George V 12 1860 Fayetteville census HH 317 Kincaid John A 40, Sarah 41, Alfred H. 18, Margaret J 14, Nancy E 13, James H 11, Sarah E. 8, Lewis E 5, Jonathan V 1 Augustus F 1 [James H ( James W 30 on 1880 census and in researcher's records) was ancestor of participant] A 27th day of April 1850 additon to the 1849 deed of heirs says that William Kincaid & Jane his wife along with the other Fayette Co heirs acknowledged to Charles Hughart & William Guinn that they signed the deed. Each heir sold 1/14th of the property left by Samuel at his death. On 5 Aug 1847 William Kincaid of Fayette Co. alone executed a deed for the same land (1/14th part) "tract on which Samuel Sr.did formally live and on which Diana Kincaid now resides." Samuel Kincaid (also on 1849 deed) executed a deed with same wording to John Guinn on Sep 1, 1847 __________________________ Researcher will be looking for additional documentation for link from Samuel to Thomas/Hannah, however, a GPS proof may be all that is possible. Marriage Bonds Kincaid, Samuel and Tincher, Mary. Bonds dated 17th day of June 1785 signed by Samuel Kincaid and Daniel Harra. No permission slips. Kincaid, Samuel and Osburn, Huldah. Bonds dated 13th day of March 1802 posted by Samuel Kincaid and John Butler Samuel Kincaid and Diana Ewing were married 1828 in Monroe Co. VA [note: William Kincaid b c1787. Danial Hurrah m Elizabeth Kincaid, dau of Thomas/Hannah]] Deeds 24 April 1792 Thomas Kincaid and wife Hannah 207a for 5 sh to Samuel Kincaid on Muddy Ck part of survey to David McDowell adj. Griffits, John Kincaid. 12/4/1816 Samuel Kincaid and Huldy his wife to Thomas Bennett, 12a on Muddy adj. John Butler 12/4/1816 Samuel Kincaid and Huldy his wife to John Butler, 195a on waters of Muddy being part of a survey of 1000a made for Daniel McDowell adj. Thomas Bennett Circuit Court Case 147. Heirs of Richard F. Tyree pltff vs John Butler, Thomas & Samuel Kincaid, etc. Suit concerned a possible survey error affecting the 240a mentioned below. In testemony John Butler says his 1st wife was sister of Robert Harrah. [Rbt was son of Charles m Margaret Kincaid, dau of Thomas/Hannah. John Butler m Elizabeth Harrah 1802] Testemony by Samuel Kincaid in response to Butler's questioning shows that John Butler traded 240a [1811 grant 240a to Butler on Ephraim's Creek] to Samuel who traded it to Tyree for the land in the 1849 deed of heirs. [Deed from Butler to Sam not yet found] Testemony by Thomas Kincaid, son of Sam, indicates that if Tyree were to gain the suit, he would expect to get part of the Muddy Creek land. Sue Liedtke

In my posting of 6 April 2014, I had not placed Harvey M Kincaid in this family. After some research I have found that Harvey is son of John Hazzard Kincaid, the grandson of David C & Mary Wood Kincaid, and the great grandson of John & Jane Donaldson Kincaid. John married Jane Donaldson, March 28, 1789, in Madison County, Kentucky Probate Packet 1429 Harvey M Kincaid (Father John H Kincaid b Mar 1835,) Minor Child File 16 Dec 1914 Guardian E. M. Timberlake. A letter from Harvey concerning funds for the coming year addresses E.M. Timberlake as "cousin." Mentions funds from a partition suit of Harvey M & Claude W Kincaid vs Martha E Kincaid In his will, John Kincaid mentions the the sons of David C Kincaid, William & Robert. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~momarion/willbook.htm In his will, Hazzard Wood, father of Mary Wood Kincaid, mentions her three children, Hazzard Kincaid, Harvey M Kincaid & Sarah Jane Kincaid. David's brother, William M Kincaid, is a witness to this will. http://www.andersonconnection.org/report28/pi01/Hazzard_Wood_Will.htm

this has to be a transcription error....John's will is listed 1334, doesn't it have to be 1834? Just checking.... > On Apr 7, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Kincaid research in Marion County, Missouri (Kim Kincaid) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 12:34:48 -0400 (EDT) > From: Kim Kincaid <n2myroots@aol.com> > Subject: [KINCAID] Kincaid research in Marion County, Missouri > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D11FCD430C68ED-1A30-2D40A@webmail-vm027.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Will Book A (134-136 & 138-139) > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~momarion/willbook.htm > > KINCAID, JOHN Senr., - will dated 23 Feb 1334. Son, James D. Kincaid, tract of land on which I now live, about 200 acres, & negro man named Edmund. Daughters, Jane a Rachael, to receive support from the farm until they marry. Son John Kincaid all property heretofore given & a negro boy named Anderson. Son Joseph the money which was paid for him to William Baugh for the negro he purchased of Baugh. William & Robert Kincaid, sons of my son David C. Kincaid, a negro slave to be under control of their mother and for her benefit during her lifetime. $50.00 each and. interest to my four grandchildren, the heirs of William Baugh, until they come of age. Residue of estate to be divided among my children. If my dau. Polly Harris become an inhabitant of this state she shall share in the division of my property. Son-i! n-! > law, Alfred Harris, the sum of 2.00 out of my estate. Exrs, William M. & James D. Kincaid. . Wit: John Davis & John Muldrow. L/T granted above named exrs. Rec 5 May 1834. (134-136 & 138-139) > > ***Also note the will of Kincaid Gay on the above webpage*** I found his name in the probate back of John Kincaid > GAY, KINCAID - will dated 28 Aug 1834. Wife, Janella, all property for the support of her and my children ...should she remarry to receive one third and the remainder divided between my children. Exrx, wife Janella Gay. Wit: John Gay & John McAfee. Recorded 3 Nov 1834. (158-159) > > Probate Packets > 1368 John Kincaid (will above) > A document in the packet has disbursement to Rachel Stockdell, Jane Kincaid, James Kincaid, Washington Barnett, Gabriel Davis, John Kincaid and David C Kincaid > > 1375 Joseph Kincaid (Son of John) > Administrator: John F Kincaid. Heirs Rhoda, widow; Andrew H, Jane A Terrill (wife of H K Terrill), John F & William M Kincaid, his children. There is a receipt in the packet for the gravestone that reads. Joseph Kincaid b 14 March 1793 d 24 Feb 1865 that is signed by Rhoda. > > 1376 James D Kincaid (Son of John) > Executor: John F Kincaid. d. 1 May 1857 intestate. Mary Jane died before May 1860. > Heirs - Mary Kincaid, widow; Ann E Kincaid & Marietta Kincaid, children > > 1408 Anna Kincaid (Daughter of James D Kincaid) > Minor Child File. Final Settlement for Ann Eliza Bragg, wife of Silas Bragg 4 Jan 1869. > Final Settlement for Marietta Kincaid 10 Feb 1876 > > 1432 Harvey A Kincaid (Son of Andrew H Kincaid, Grandson Joseph Kincaid) > D. 27 Jan 1905. Filed 17 Mar 1905 Joseph C Kincaid, Executor. > Heirs: siblings Louella Howe, Marion Co., MO; Ida A See, Shelby Co., MO; Joseph C Kincaid, Marion Co., MO; Katie S Newton, Randolph CO., MO; Louis N Kincaid, Ravalli Co., MT; Arthur W Kincaid, Randolph CO., MO; Children of Sister Rhoda Carlisle, dec.,Estill Carlisle, Marion CO., MO & Harvey Carlisle, Ravalli CO., MT; Children of 1/2 sister, Elizabeth Heath, Samuel, ANsil, Oscar & Elizabeth, Montague Co., TX; Child of 1/2 brother, William M Kincaid, Letha Kincaid, Randolph Co., MO; 1/2 sister Rebecca Blackwell, Randolph Co., MO, 1/2 sister Fannie Maze, Randolph Co., MO > > --------Not placed in the above family------ > 1429 Harvey M Kincaid (Father John H Kincaid b Mar 1835) > Minor Child File 16 Dec 1914 Guardian E. M. Timberlake. > A letter from Harvey concerning funds for the coming year addresses E.M. Timberlake as "cousin." > Mentions funds from a partition suit of Harvey M & Claude W Kincaid vs Martha E Kincaid > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 74 > **************************************

Will Book A (134-136 & 138-139) http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~momarion/willbook.htm KINCAID, JOHN Senr., - will dated 23 Feb 1334. Son, James D. Kincaid, tract of land on which I now live, about 200 acres, & negro man named Edmund. Daughters, Jane a Rachael, to receive support from the farm until they marry. Son John Kincaid all property heretofore given & a negro boy named Anderson. Son Joseph the money which was paid for him to William Baugh for the negro he purchased of Baugh. William & Robert Kincaid, sons of my son David C. Kincaid, a negro slave to be under control of their mother and for her benefit during her lifetime. $50.00 each and. interest to my four grandchildren, the heirs of William Baugh, until they come of age. Residue of estate to be divided among my children. If my dau. Polly Harris become an inhabitant of this state she shall share in the division of my property. Son-in-law, Alfred Harris, the sum of 2.00 out of my estate. Exrs, William M. & James D. Kincaid. . Wit: John Davis & John Muldrow. L/T granted above named exrs. Rec 5 May 1834. (134-136 & 138-139) ***Also note the will of Kincaid Gay on the above webpage*** I found his name in the probate back of John Kincaid GAY, KINCAID - will dated 28 Aug 1834. Wife, Janella, all property for the support of her and my children ...should she remarry to receive one third and the remainder divided between my children. Exrx, wife Janella Gay. Wit: John Gay & John McAfee. Recorded 3 Nov 1834. (158-159) Probate Packets 1368 John Kincaid (will above) A document in the packet has disbursement to Rachel Stockdell, Jane Kincaid, James Kincaid, Washington Barnett, Gabriel Davis, John Kincaid and David C Kincaid 1375 Joseph Kincaid (Son of John) Administrator: John F Kincaid. Heirs Rhoda, widow; Andrew H, Jane A Terrill (wife of H K Terrill), John F & William M Kincaid, his children. There is a receipt in the packet for the gravestone that reads. Joseph Kincaid b 14 March 1793 d 24 Feb 1865 that is signed by Rhoda. 1376 James D Kincaid (Son of John) Executor: John F Kincaid. d. 1 May 1857 intestate. Mary Jane died before May 1860. Heirs - Mary Kincaid, widow; Ann E Kincaid & Marietta Kincaid, children 1408 Anna Kincaid (Daughter of James D Kincaid) Minor Child File. Final Settlement for Ann Eliza Bragg, wife of Silas Bragg 4 Jan 1869. Final Settlement for Marietta Kincaid 10 Feb 1876 1432 Harvey A Kincaid (Son of Andrew H Kincaid, Grandson Joseph Kincaid) D. 27 Jan 1905. Filed 17 Mar 1905 Joseph C Kincaid, Executor. Heirs: siblings Louella Howe, Marion Co., MO; Ida A See, Shelby Co., MO; Joseph C Kincaid, Marion Co., MO; Katie S Newton, Randolph CO., MO; Louis N Kincaid, Ravalli Co., MT; Arthur W Kincaid, Randolph CO., MO; Children of Sister Rhoda Carlisle, dec.,Estill Carlisle, Marion CO., MO & Harvey Carlisle, Ravalli CO., MT; Children of 1/2 sister, Elizabeth Heath, Samuel, ANsil, Oscar & Elizabeth, Montague Co., TX; Child of 1/2 brother, William M Kincaid, Letha Kincaid, Randolph Co., MO; 1/2 sister Rebecca Blackwell, Randolph Co., MO, 1/2 sister Fannie Maze, Randolph Co., MO --------Not placed in the above family------ 1429 Harvey M Kincaid (Father John H Kincaid b Mar 1835) Minor Child File 16 Dec 1914 Guardian E. M. Timberlake. A letter from Harvey concerning funds for the coming year addresses E.M. Timberlake as "cousin." Mentions funds from a partition suit of Harvey M & Claude W Kincaid vs Martha E Kincaid

i found Sarah Kinkade in Grayson Co KY 1850 living with her children with no William. Did he leave her for Elizabeth Garrett before/after moving to Eldorado Co, CA ????? MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS > On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. William Kinkead of Christian County, KY >Illinois > (Barbara Van Hout) > 2. Re: William Kinkead of Christian County, KY >Illinois > (Barbara Van Hout) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 11:50:49 -0400 > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > Subject: [KINCAID] William Kinkead of Christian County, KY >Illinois > To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <FAFF67BDB5DD4CC4AE35AB94641BC4C6@INSPIRON560> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I found some of the children/grandchildren of Guy Kinkead/Lovie Dictum in Illinois, living in Morgan County, IL, according to the 1850 census. Milton Kinkead, son of William/Lizzie according to the 2nd biography below, was living with Archibald G Kinkead/wife Lucy Booker in the 1860 census for Greene County, IL. There is a record that Archibald was born in Christian Co, KY. The following obit for Milton said that he had siblings Rebecca Mays and Dr. A. G. Kinkead still living in 1906. > > According to familysearch.com, Illinois marriages, Rebecca Kinkead Mays was the daughter of William Kinkead & Sarah Steward, who married in 1823 in Christian County, KY. William may have married Elizabeth B. Garrett after Sarah died and moved on to California, where they are shown in the 1850 census for El Dorado County. > > 1850 William Kinkead, age 46, KY, miner, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA, household 16. > > 1850 Elizabeth B. Kinkead, age 45, born PA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. > > 1850 Angeline Kinkead, age 12, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. > > 1850 Emily Kinkead, age 10, born IA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. > > 1850 Phoebe A. Garrett, age 11, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201850%20Census/kincaids%20in%201850%20united%20states%20census%20al-ky.htm > > > > > ?Lovie Dictum Kinkead died in 1841. The only record we have of this is from the minutes of the Presbyterian Church, where an entry appears in March of 1841, stating that Mrs. Lovie Kinkead died in Illinois while visiting her children. There is no indication of the exact location in Illinois where she is buried.? > > Here is a William Kinkead in the 1840 census for Scott County, IL which is adjacent to Morgan County. The oldest female was the right age to have been William?s mother Lovie Kinkead. > > 1840 William Kinkade, [20720] Winchester Township, Scott County, IL, 1 male under 5, 2 males 5-9, 1 male 10-14, 1 male 15-19, 1 male 30-39, 2 females under 5, 1 female 5-9, 1 female 30-39, 1 female 50-59, p. 161 > > > > KINKEAD, MILTON ALEXANDER > Greenfield Argus 11/16/1906 > Milton Alexander Kinkead died at his home in Springfield, Ill., November 13, 1906, aged sixty-five years, four months and one day. > > . He had been a resident of Springfield for the last thirteen years. He was born July 12, 1841, in Manchester, Ill. He was an orphan at the age of three weeks and was reared by an aunt. He removed to Greenfield, Ill., at the age of sixteen years and there engaged in farm work and also secured a position as a clerk in a store. > > At the outbreak of the civil war he enlisted in Company D, Fourteenth Illinois volunteer infantry, commanded by Captain Bryant, of Greenfield. He served only a few months, being discharged on account of sickness. At the close of the war, together with Captain Bryant, he engaged in the grocery business at Carrollton. Later he returned to Greenfield, where he pursued the same business. He married Cassandra Saxton in 1864. During his residence in Springfield he had been engaged in traveling for wholesale firms located in Alton, and he followed this vocation up to the time of his illness. > > Mr. Kinkead is survived by his wife, four daughters, Mrs. S. E. Skidner, Mrs J. E. Schwartzott, Miss Minnie Kinkead, all of Springfield and Mrs. F. L. Mills, of Streator; four sons, Howard and Guy Kinkead of Springfield, W. A. Kinkead of this city, and Arthur Kinkead, of Irving; also a brother Dr. A. G. Kinkead, and a sister, Mrs Rebecca Mays, both of this city. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilmaga/sangamon/cemetery/oakridge/obits/kinkead.html > > MAYS, CHARLES J REYNOLDS, REBECCA G KINKADE (MRS) 1888-03-22 2 2 2660 MACOUPIN > > > > > William Kinkade > Father-in-law > > spouse: Sarah Steward > child: Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds > other: Charles J. Mays, John Mays, Sarah Morrow > > Name Charles J. Mays > Birth Date > Birthplace > Age > Spouse's Name Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds > Spouse's Birth Date > Spouse's Birthplace > Spouse's Age > Event Date 22 Mar 1888 > Event Place Scottville, Macoupin, Illinois > Father's Name John Mays > Mother's Name Sarah Morrow > Spouse's Father's Name William Kinkade > Spouse's Mother's Name Sarah Steward > > > > > Morgan County, IL > > > > 1850 Guy Kinkead, age 44, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household 2601. > > 1850 A.B. Kinkead, age 36, born KY, merchant, Morgan County, IL. > > > > 1850 James Kinkead, age 14, born IL, Morgan County, IL, household 2623. > > 1850 Mary Kinkead, age 16, born IL, Morgan County, IL. > > In household of Benjamin Harris, age 20, born IL. Benjamin Harris?s wife Rebecca, a. 19, was likely a sister of James and Mary. > > > > > > 1849 Rebecca Kinkead married Benjamin M. Harris on June 18, 1849 in Morgan County, IL. > > Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, Vol. B, p. 67, Lic. 2057. > > > > > > 1850 Archibald Kinkead, age 18, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household 2678. > > In household of Thomas Turner, age 31, born IL > > > > > > * * * *KINCAID, M. A. grocery, Greenfield; was born in the town of Manchester, Morgan County, July 12, 1841; was the last of a family of seven children of Wm. and Elizabeth Kincaid, who were natives of Kentucky. His father and mother dying before he had any recollection of them; but an aunt of his took him in charge and gave him what counsel and cheer she could. Moved with his aunt to Petersburg, Menard County, at an early age, remaining there until he was thirteen years of age, when he came to the town of Greenfield, and for several years worked out among the farmers and at what jobs he could obtain, until his enlistment in the U. S. service; went out in the 14th Reg. Ill., Vol. Co. D; remained with the regiment seven months when he was discharged on account of disability, by disease contracted while in the service. Upon his return home, engaged as a clerk for Mrs. Ellis; subsequently to this clerked for Eli Lee. Then went into business with Capt. > Bryant, which partnership lasted about seven months, then sold out and came to Greenfield and embarked in the grocery business on the north side of the Square, and has since continued at the same. Sept. 1, 1864, was united in marriage to Cassandra Saxton, daughter of Rev. W. T. Saxton; had seven children, viz.: Ola D., born June 17, 1865; William A., born Nov. 27, 1866; Arthur, born June 1, 1867; Howard, born Oct. 20, 1869; Minnie, born Oct. 20, 1871; Siloa, born July 26, 1875; Guy, born Oct. 25, 1878. Upon his arrival here in Greenfield, associated with him as partner Valentine Caswell. After the dissolution of this firm, conducted the business alone, then associated with Mr. N. L. Cunningham, which partnership was not a profitable one for Mr. Kincaid, as he sloped with the funds of the firm, was never heard of since. Mr. Kincaid is Republican in sentiment. > > www.mygenealogyhound.com/illinois-biographies/il-greene-county-illinois-biographies/m-a-kincaid-genealogy-greene-county-illinois-greenfield.html# > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:45:47 -0400 > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] William Kinkead of Christian County, KY > >Illinois > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4E4562E53DDE4AAFBF9B97E110DA1902@INSPIRON560> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Milton Alexander Kinkead's biography indicates that he as a very young child > went > to live with an aunt in Menard County, IL. > > He is in the 1850 census for Menard County as Alexa. Kincaid, a. 8, in the > household of E. B. Harrison and his wife Elizabeth. > > E B Harrison 64 > Elizabeth Harrison 61 > Lucinda Harrison 20 > E F Harrison 18 > Alexa Kincaid 8 > > This is the husband/wife of the 1850 Menard County census. > HARRISON, EZEKIEL B STEWART, ELIZABETH 1837-06-10 00B 0004 00000091 > MORGAN > > Elizabeth Stewart was a sister of Sarah Stewart, wife of William Kinkead > from Christian County, KY? > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 11:50 AM > To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] William Kinkead of Christian County, KY >Illinois > > I found some of the children/grandchildren of Guy Kinkead/Lovie Dictum in > Illinois, living in Morgan County, IL, according to the 1850 census. Milton > Kinkead, son of William/Lizzie according to the 2nd biography below, was > living with Archibald G Kinkead/wife Lucy Booker in the 1860 census for > Greene County, IL. There is a record that Archibald was born in Christian > Co, KY. The following obit for Milton said that he had siblings Rebecca > Mays and Dr. A. G. Kinkead still living in 1906. > > According to familysearch.com, Illinois marriages, Rebecca Kinkead Mays was > the daughter of William Kinkead & Sarah Steward, who married in 1823 in > Christian County, KY. William may have married Elizabeth B. Garrett after > Sarah died and moved on to California, where they are shown in the 1850 > census for El Dorado County. > > 1850 William Kinkead, age 46, KY, miner, Louisville, El Dorado County, > CA, household 16. > > 1850 Elizabeth B. Kinkead, age 45, born PA, Louisville, El Dorado County, > CA. > > 1850 Angeline Kinkead, age 12, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. > > 1850 Emily Kinkead, age 10, born IA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. > > 1850 Phoebe A. Garrett, age 11, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, > CA. > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201850%20Census/kincaids%20in%201850%20united%20states%20census%20al-ky.htm > > > > > ?Lovie Dictum Kinkead died in 1841. The only record we have of this is from > the minutes of the Presbyterian Church, where an entry appears in March of > 1841, stating that Mrs. Lovie Kinkead died in Illinois while visiting her > children. There is no indication of the exact location in Illinois where she > is buried.? > > Here is a William Kinkead in the 1840 census for Scott County, IL which is > adjacent to Morgan County. The oldest female was the right age to have been > William?s mother Lovie Kinkead. > > 1840 William Kinkade, [20720] Winchester Township, Scott County, IL, 1 > male under 5, 2 males 5-9, 1 male 10-14, 1 male 15-19, 1 male 30-39, 2 > females under 5, 1 female 5-9, 1 female 30-39, 1 female 50-59, p. 161 > > > > KINKEAD, MILTON ALEXANDER > Greenfield Argus 11/16/1906 > Milton Alexander Kinkead died at his home in Springfield, Ill., November 13, > 1906, aged sixty-five years, four months and one day. > > . He had been a resident of Springfield for the last thirteen years. He was > born July 12, 1841, in Manchester, Ill. He was an orphan at the age of three > weeks and was reared by an aunt. He removed to Greenfield, Ill., at the age > of sixteen years and there engaged in farm work and also secured a position > as a clerk in a store. > > At the outbreak of the civil war he enlisted in Company D, Fourteenth > Illinois volunteer infantry, commanded by Captain Bryant, of Greenfield. He > served only a few months, being discharged on account of sickness. At the > close of the war, together with Captain Bryant, he engaged in the grocery > business at Carrollton. Later he returned to Greenfield, where he pursued > the same business. He married Cassandra Saxton in 1864. During his residence > in Springfield he had been engaged in traveling for wholesale firms located > in Alton, and he followed this vocation up to the time of his illness. > > Mr. Kinkead is survived by his wife, four daughters, Mrs. S. E. Skidner, Mrs > J. E. Schwartzott, Miss Minnie Kinkead, all of Springfield and Mrs. F. L. > Mills, of Streator; four sons, Howard and Guy Kinkead of Springfield, W. A. > Kinkead of this city, and Arthur Kinkead, of Irving; also a brother Dr. A. > G. Kinkead, and a sister, Mrs Rebecca Mays, both of this city. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilmaga/sangamon/cemetery/oakridge/obits/kinkead.html > > MAYS, CHARLES J REYNOLDS, REBECCA G KINKADE (MRS) 1888-03-22 2 2 > 2660 MACOUPIN > > > > > William Kinkade > Father-in-law > > spouse: Sarah Steward > child: Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds > other: Charles J. Mays, John Mays, Sarah Morrow > > Name Charles J. Mays > Birth Date > Birthplace > Age > Spouse's Name Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds > Spouse's Birth Date > Spouse's Birthplace > Spouse's Age > Event Date 22 Mar 1888 > Event Place Scottville, Macoupin, Illinois > Father's Name John Mays > Mother's Name Sarah Morrow > Spouse's Father's Name William Kinkade > Spouse's Mother's Name Sarah Steward > > > > > Morgan County, IL > > > > 1850 Guy Kinkead, age 44, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household > 2601. > > 1850 A.B. Kinkead, age 36, born KY, merchant, Morgan County, IL. > > > > 1850 James Kinkead, age 14, born IL, Morgan County, IL, household > 2623. > > 1850 Mary Kinkead, age 16, born IL, Morgan County, IL. > > In household of Benjamin Harris, age 20, born IL. > Benjamin Harris?s wife Rebecca, a. 19, was likely a sister of James and > Mary. > > > > > > 1849 Rebecca Kinkead married Benjamin M. Harris on June 18, 1849 > in Morgan County, IL. > > Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, Vol. B, p. 67, Lic. 2057. > > > > > > 1850 Archibald Kinkead, age 18, born KY, Morgan County, IL, > household 2678. > > In household of Thomas Turner, age 31, born IL > > > > > > * * * *KINCAID, M. A. grocery, Greenfield; was born in the town of > Manchester, Morgan County, July 12, 1841; was the last of a family of seven > children of Wm. and Elizabeth Kincaid, who were natives of Kentucky. His > father and mother dying before he had any recollection of them; but an aunt > of his took him in charge and gave him what counsel and cheer she could. > Moved with his aunt to Petersburg, Menard County, at an early age, remaining > there until he was thirteen years of age, when he came to the town of > Greenfield, and for several years worked out among the farmers and at what > jobs he could obtain, until his enlistment in the U. S. service; went out in > the 14th Reg. Ill., Vol. Co. D; remained with the regiment seven months when > he was discharged on account of disability, by disease contracted while in > the service. Upon his return home, engaged as a clerk for Mrs. Ellis; > subsequently to this clerked for Eli Lee. Then went into business with Capt. > Bryant, which partnership lasted about seven months, then sold out and came > to Greenfield and embarked in the grocery business on the north side of the > Square, and has since continued at the same. Sept. 1, 1864, was united in > marriage to Cassandra Saxton, daughter of Rev. W. T. Saxton; had seven > children, viz.: Ola D., born June 17, 1865; William A., born Nov. 27, 1866; > Arthur, born June 1, 1867; Howard, born Oct. 20, 1869; Minnie, born Oct. 20, > 1871; Siloa, born July 26, 1875; Guy, born Oct. 25, 1878. Upon his arrival > here in Greenfield, associated with him as partner Valentine Caswell. After > the dissolution of this firm, conducted the business alone, then associated > with Mr. N. L. Cunningham, which partnership was not a profitable one for > Mr. Kincaid, as he sloped with the funds of the firm, was never heard of > since. Mr. Kincaid is Republican in sentiment. > > www.mygenealogyhound.com/illinois-biographies/il-greene-county-illinois-biographies/m-a-kincaid-genealogy-greene-county-illinois-greenfield.html# > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 72 > **************************************

Milton Alexander Kinkead's biography indicates that he as a very young child went to live with an aunt in Menard County, IL. He is in the 1850 census for Menard County as Alexa. Kincaid, a. 8, in the household of E. B. Harrison and his wife Elizabeth. E B Harrison 64 Elizabeth Harrison 61 Lucinda Harrison 20 E F Harrison 18 Alexa Kincaid 8 This is the husband/wife of the 1850 Menard County census. HARRISON, EZEKIEL B STEWART, ELIZABETH 1837-06-10 00B 0004 00000091 MORGAN Elizabeth Stewart was a sister of Sarah Stewart, wife of William Kinkead from Christian County, KY? Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 11:50 AM To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] William Kinkead of Christian County, KY >Illinois I found some of the children/grandchildren of Guy Kinkead/Lovie Dictum in Illinois, living in Morgan County, IL, according to the 1850 census. Milton Kinkead, son of William/Lizzie according to the 2nd biography below, was living with Archibald G Kinkead/wife Lucy Booker in the 1860 census for Greene County, IL. There is a record that Archibald was born in Christian Co, KY. The following obit for Milton said that he had siblings Rebecca Mays and Dr. A. G. Kinkead still living in 1906. According to familysearch.com, Illinois marriages, Rebecca Kinkead Mays was the daughter of William Kinkead & Sarah Steward, who married in 1823 in Christian County, KY. William may have married Elizabeth B. Garrett after Sarah died and moved on to California, where they are shown in the 1850 census for El Dorado County. 1850 William Kinkead, age 46, KY, miner, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA, household 16. 1850 Elizabeth B. Kinkead, age 45, born PA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. 1850 Angeline Kinkead, age 12, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. 1850 Emily Kinkead, age 10, born IA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. 1850 Phoebe A. Garrett, age 11, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201850%20Census/kincaids%20in%201850%20united%20states%20census%20al-ky.htm ”Lovie Dictum Kinkead died in 1841. The only record we have of this is from the minutes of the Presbyterian Church, where an entry appears in March of 1841, stating that Mrs. Lovie Kinkead died in Illinois while visiting her children. There is no indication of the exact location in Illinois where she is buried.” Here is a William Kinkead in the 1840 census for Scott County, IL which is adjacent to Morgan County. The oldest female was the right age to have been William’s mother Lovie Kinkead. 1840 William Kinkade, [20720] Winchester Township, Scott County, IL, 1 male under 5, 2 males 5-9, 1 male 10-14, 1 male 15-19, 1 male 30-39, 2 females under 5, 1 female 5-9, 1 female 30-39, 1 female 50-59, p. 161 KINKEAD, MILTON ALEXANDER Greenfield Argus 11/16/1906 Milton Alexander Kinkead died at his home in Springfield, Ill., November 13, 1906, aged sixty-five years, four months and one day. . He had been a resident of Springfield for the last thirteen years. He was born July 12, 1841, in Manchester, Ill. He was an orphan at the age of three weeks and was reared by an aunt. He removed to Greenfield, Ill., at the age of sixteen years and there engaged in farm work and also secured a position as a clerk in a store. At the outbreak of the civil war he enlisted in Company D, Fourteenth Illinois volunteer infantry, commanded by Captain Bryant, of Greenfield. He served only a few months, being discharged on account of sickness. At the close of the war, together with Captain Bryant, he engaged in the grocery business at Carrollton. Later he returned to Greenfield, where he pursued the same business. He married Cassandra Saxton in 1864. During his residence in Springfield he had been engaged in traveling for wholesale firms located in Alton, and he followed this vocation up to the time of his illness. Mr. Kinkead is survived by his wife, four daughters, Mrs. S. E. Skidner, Mrs J. E. Schwartzott, Miss Minnie Kinkead, all of Springfield and Mrs. F. L. Mills, of Streator; four sons, Howard and Guy Kinkead of Springfield, W. A. Kinkead of this city, and Arthur Kinkead, of Irving; also a brother Dr. A. G. Kinkead, and a sister, Mrs Rebecca Mays, both of this city. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilmaga/sangamon/cemetery/oakridge/obits/kinkead.html MAYS, CHARLES J REYNOLDS, REBECCA G KINKADE (MRS) 1888-03-22 2 2 2660 MACOUPIN William Kinkade Father-in-law spouse: Sarah Steward child: Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds other: Charles J. Mays, John Mays, Sarah Morrow Name Charles J. Mays Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date 22 Mar 1888 Event Place Scottville, Macoupin, Illinois Father's Name John Mays Mother's Name Sarah Morrow Spouse's Father's Name William Kinkade Spouse's Mother's Name Sarah Steward Morgan County, IL 1850 Guy Kinkead, age 44, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household 2601. 1850 A.B. Kinkead, age 36, born KY, merchant, Morgan County, IL. 1850 James Kinkead, age 14, born IL, Morgan County, IL, household 2623. 1850 Mary Kinkead, age 16, born IL, Morgan County, IL. In household of Benjamin Harris, age 20, born IL. Benjamin Harris’s wife Rebecca, a. 19, was likely a sister of James and Mary. 1849 Rebecca Kinkead married Benjamin M. Harris on June 18, 1849 in Morgan County, IL. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, Vol. B, p. 67, Lic. 2057. 1850 Archibald Kinkead, age 18, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household 2678. In household of Thomas Turner, age 31, born IL * * * *KINCAID, M. A. grocery, Greenfield; was born in the town of Manchester, Morgan County, July 12, 1841; was the last of a family of seven children of Wm. and Elizabeth Kincaid, who were natives of Kentucky. His father and mother dying before he had any recollection of them; but an aunt of his took him in charge and gave him what counsel and cheer she could. Moved with his aunt to Petersburg, Menard County, at an early age, remaining there until he was thirteen years of age, when he came to the town of Greenfield, and for several years worked out among the farmers and at what jobs he could obtain, until his enlistment in the U. S. service; went out in the 14th Reg. Ill., Vol. Co. D; remained with the regiment seven months when he was discharged on account of disability, by disease contracted while in the service. Upon his return home, engaged as a clerk for Mrs. Ellis; subsequently to this clerked for Eli Lee. Then went into business with Capt. Bryant, which partnership lasted about seven months, then sold out and came to Greenfield and embarked in the grocery business on the north side of the Square, and has since continued at the same. Sept. 1, 1864, was united in marriage to Cassandra Saxton, daughter of Rev. W. T. Saxton; had seven children, viz.: Ola D., born June 17, 1865; William A., born Nov. 27, 1866; Arthur, born June 1, 1867; Howard, born Oct. 20, 1869; Minnie, born Oct. 20, 1871; Siloa, born July 26, 1875; Guy, born Oct. 25, 1878. Upon his arrival here in Greenfield, associated with him as partner Valentine Caswell. After the dissolution of this firm, conducted the business alone, then associated with Mr. N. L. Cunningham, which partnership was not a profitable one for Mr. Kincaid, as he sloped with the funds of the firm, was never heard of since. Mr. Kincaid is Republican in sentiment. www.mygenealogyhound.com/illinois-biographies/il-greene-county-illinois-biographies/m-a-kincaid-genealogy-greene-county-illinois-greenfield.html# For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found some of the children/grandchildren of Guy Kinkead/Lovie Dictum in Illinois, living in Morgan County, IL, according to the 1850 census. Milton Kinkead, son of William/Lizzie according to the 2nd biography below, was living with Archibald G Kinkead/wife Lucy Booker in the 1860 census for Greene County, IL. There is a record that Archibald was born in Christian Co, KY. The following obit for Milton said that he had siblings Rebecca Mays and Dr. A. G. Kinkead still living in 1906. According to familysearch.com, Illinois marriages, Rebecca Kinkead Mays was the daughter of William Kinkead & Sarah Steward, who married in 1823 in Christian County, KY. William may have married Elizabeth B. Garrett after Sarah died and moved on to California, where they are shown in the 1850 census for El Dorado County. 1850 William Kinkead, age 46, KY, miner, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA, household 16. 1850 Elizabeth B. Kinkead, age 45, born PA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. 1850 Angeline Kinkead, age 12, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. 1850 Emily Kinkead, age 10, born IA, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. 1850 Phoebe A. Garrett, age 11, born OH, Louisville, El Dorado County, CA. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201850%20Census/kincaids%20in%201850%20united%20states%20census%20al-ky.htm ”Lovie Dictum Kinkead died in 1841. The only record we have of this is from the minutes of the Presbyterian Church, where an entry appears in March of 1841, stating that Mrs. Lovie Kinkead died in Illinois while visiting her children. There is no indication of the exact location in Illinois where she is buried.” Here is a William Kinkead in the 1840 census for Scott County, IL which is adjacent to Morgan County. The oldest female was the right age to have been William’s mother Lovie Kinkead. 1840 William Kinkade, [20720] Winchester Township, Scott County, IL, 1 male under 5, 2 males 5-9, 1 male 10-14, 1 male 15-19, 1 male 30-39, 2 females under 5, 1 female 5-9, 1 female 30-39, 1 female 50-59, p. 161 KINKEAD, MILTON ALEXANDER Greenfield Argus 11/16/1906 Milton Alexander Kinkead died at his home in Springfield, Ill., November 13, 1906, aged sixty-five years, four months and one day. . He had been a resident of Springfield for the last thirteen years. He was born July 12, 1841, in Manchester, Ill. He was an orphan at the age of three weeks and was reared by an aunt. He removed to Greenfield, Ill., at the age of sixteen years and there engaged in farm work and also secured a position as a clerk in a store. At the outbreak of the civil war he enlisted in Company D, Fourteenth Illinois volunteer infantry, commanded by Captain Bryant, of Greenfield. He served only a few months, being discharged on account of sickness. At the close of the war, together with Captain Bryant, he engaged in the grocery business at Carrollton. Later he returned to Greenfield, where he pursued the same business. He married Cassandra Saxton in 1864. During his residence in Springfield he had been engaged in traveling for wholesale firms located in Alton, and he followed this vocation up to the time of his illness. Mr. Kinkead is survived by his wife, four daughters, Mrs. S. E. Skidner, Mrs J. E. Schwartzott, Miss Minnie Kinkead, all of Springfield and Mrs. F. L. Mills, of Streator; four sons, Howard and Guy Kinkead of Springfield, W. A. Kinkead of this city, and Arthur Kinkead, of Irving; also a brother Dr. A. G. Kinkead, and a sister, Mrs Rebecca Mays, both of this city. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilmaga/sangamon/cemetery/oakridge/obits/kinkead.html MAYS, CHARLES J REYNOLDS, REBECCA G KINKADE (MRS) 1888-03-22 2 2 2660 MACOUPIN William Kinkade Father-in-law spouse: Sarah Steward child: Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds other: Charles J. Mays, John Mays, Sarah Morrow Name Charles J. Mays Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Rebecca G. Kindade Reynolds Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date 22 Mar 1888 Event Place Scottville, Macoupin, Illinois Father's Name John Mays Mother's Name Sarah Morrow Spouse's Father's Name William Kinkade Spouse's Mother's Name Sarah Steward Morgan County, IL 1850 Guy Kinkead, age 44, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household 2601. 1850 A.B. Kinkead, age 36, born KY, merchant, Morgan County, IL. 1850 James Kinkead, age 14, born IL, Morgan County, IL, household 2623. 1850 Mary Kinkead, age 16, born IL, Morgan County, IL. In household of Benjamin Harris, age 20, born IL. Benjamin Harris’s wife Rebecca, a. 19, was likely a sister of James and Mary. 1849 Rebecca Kinkead married Benjamin M. Harris on June 18, 1849 in Morgan County, IL. Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, Vol. B, p. 67, Lic. 2057. 1850 Archibald Kinkead, age 18, born KY, Morgan County, IL, household 2678. In household of Thomas Turner, age 31, born IL * * * *KINCAID, M. A. grocery, Greenfield; was born in the town of Manchester, Morgan County, July 12, 1841; was the last of a family of seven children of Wm. and Elizabeth Kincaid, who were natives of Kentucky. His father and mother dying before he had any recollection of them; but an aunt of his took him in charge and gave him what counsel and cheer she could. Moved with his aunt to Petersburg, Menard County, at an early age, remaining there until he was thirteen years of age, when he came to the town of Greenfield, and for several years worked out among the farmers and at what jobs he could obtain, until his enlistment in the U. S. service; went out in the 14th Reg. Ill., Vol. Co. D; remained with the regiment seven months when he was discharged on account of disability, by disease contracted while in the service. Upon his return home, engaged as a clerk for Mrs. Ellis; subsequently to this clerked for Eli Lee. Then went into business with Capt. Bryant, which partnership lasted about seven months, then sold out and came to Greenfield and embarked in the grocery business on the north side of the Square, and has since continued at the same. Sept. 1, 1864, was united in marriage to Cassandra Saxton, daughter of Rev. W. T. Saxton; had seven children, viz.: Ola D., born June 17, 1865; William A., born Nov. 27, 1866; Arthur, born June 1, 1867; Howard, born Oct. 20, 1869; Minnie, born Oct. 20, 1871; Siloa, born July 26, 1875; Guy, born Oct. 25, 1878. Upon his arrival here in Greenfield, associated with him as partner Valentine Caswell. After the dissolution of this firm, conducted the business alone, then associated with Mr. N. L. Cunningham, which partnership was not a profitable one for Mr. Kincaid, as he sloped with the funds of the firm, was never heard of since. Mr. Kincaid is Republican in sentiment. www.mygenealogyhound.com/illinois-biographies/il-greene-county-illinois-biographies/m-a-kincaid-genealogy-greene-county-illinois-greenfield.html#

Samuel Kinkade married Minerva Brunk in Grayson County, KY in the mid-1840's. Minerva was the daughter of Thomas Brunk and Temperance Wells. 30695.) Patent #: 38597 Grantee: Kinkade, Samuel & Kinkade, Manurva &c. Grant Book & Pg: 70 131 Acreage: 75 County: Grayson WaterCourse: Big Clifty Cr. Survey Name: Kinkade, Samuel & Kinkade, Manurva &c. Survey Date: 08/18/1865 Grant Date: 02/25/1867 Note: Above are heirs of Thomas Brunk. http://apps.sos.ky.gov/land/nonmilitary/patentseries/cocourtorders/ccoadvsearch2.asp?searchby=granthr&searchstrg=a&show=25&sortby=&order=&page=1228&keywordtype=AND&within=&oldsearch= Ancestry.com gives this about Temperance Wells: Born in Kentucky, USA on 1806 to Samuel Darvin Wells and Anna Hamilton. Temperance married Thomas Brunk. There were several marriages between the Brunk and Wells families in Hardin/Grayson Counties...Grayson formed from Hardin in 1810. Samuel Kinkade was still alive in 1880 in Grayson County. Perhaps his death certificate is at the courthouse. Minerva Kinkade was in the 1900 census,( a. 74 b. KY) for Davis County, Iowa, along with her sons John S Kinkade and James B Kinkade and their families. Some of Minerva's Brunk relatives also moved to Davis County, Iowa. I found this message: "Could Nancy(b.1829)(m.David Watkins) be the d/o Thomas Brunk (b.1803 m. Temperance Wells b.1808. Thomas being Christopher Brunk's son? Thomas Brunk and Temperance daughter Minerva (b.1826 m. Samuel Kinkade ) Samuel and Minerva's daughter Temperance Jane (b. 1845 d. 1918 married William (Wild Bill Meredith) their daughter Ada (b. 1877 d. 1950 0 (m. George Saltsman) George and Ada were my grandparents. My grandparents and ggrandparents are buried in Grayson Co. Ky" Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Luis Castillo Jr Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:29 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 67 Surnames that I am researching: Sadler Kinkade Meredith Skaggs Brunk > On Mar 31, 2014, at 12:31 PM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Samuel Kinkade/Minerva Brunk (Barbara Van Hout) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:31:07 -0400 > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > Subject: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkade/Minerva Brunk > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D5DAA4886C274D2DB9CF4FD5A7C8305A@INSPIRON560> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I am interested in how you descend from Samuel Kinkade/Minerva Brunk. I > believe that Samuel was the son of William S. Kinkade/Sarah H Cain. Sarah > was William's second wife and Sarah moved to Grayson County with her > children after William died. William's first wife was Harriet Kermickle > and > they married in 1811 in Hardin County, KY. > > William S Kinkade was the oldest son of Robert Kinkade/Mary Bowman of > Hardin > County, KY. Robert served for 3 years in the American Revolution and filed > for a pension in 1820. > > This includes Robert's will. Sadie Kinkead of St. Louis, who wrote the > letter seeking information about Robert and his RW service, > is a descendant of William S. Kinkade and Sarah of Grayson County. > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kyphoenix2&id=I97 > > There is a lot more information about these families: > Grayson & Hardin Co., Kentucky - Kinkade's & related families > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=kyphoenix2&surname=K > > We have a DNA sample from a descendant of Sarah H Kinkade's son James C > Kinkade, which matches very closely to William/Harriet's older son W M S > Kinkade who married Mary Margaret Upton in Hardin County. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KINCAID/2011-10/1318603365 > > James C. Shelton Kinkade > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=281&GScid=2194569&GRid=44295378& > > Birth: 1836 > Hardin County > Kentucky, USA > Death: Jan. 15, 1945 > > James C. Shelton Kinkade, the son of William S. Kinkade and Sarah Harriet > Cain, was born in February 1836 in Hardin County, Kentucky. > > Burial: > McGrew Cemetery > Leitchfield > Grayson County > Kentucky, USA > > Created by: VirJean Potter Bozarth (... > Record added: Nov 13, 2009 > Find A Grave Memorial# 44295378 > > > > Grayson County, KY census, > from Norman Kincaide's website: > > > 1850 Samuel Kinkade, age 26, born KY, farmer, Grayson County, KY, > household 130. > > 1850 Minerva Kinkade, age 23, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Temperance J. Kinkade, age 4, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Harriet M. Kinkade, age 2, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Mary A. Kinkade, age 8 months, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > > > 1850 Sarah Kinkade, age 45, born KY, Grayson County, KY, household 264. > > 1850 Isabella Kinkade, age 16, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Emeline Kinkade, age 16, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 James C. Kinkade, age 13, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Abraham P. Kinkade, age 11, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 George W. Kinkade, age 9, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Liggin Kinkade, age 7, male, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1850 Eliza Kinkade, age 5, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > > 1860 > Grayson County, KY > > > 1860 Samuel Kinkade, age 36, born KY, farmer, Grayson County, KY, p. > 383, > image 383, family 236. > > 1860 Minerva Kinkade, age 34, born KY, housekeepking, Grayson County, > KY. > > 1860 Temperance Kinkade, age 14, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 Harriet Kinkade, age 11, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 Martha Kinkade, age 8, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 William T. Kinkade, age 6, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 Frances J. Kinkade, age 4, born KY, female, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 James B.C. Kinkade, age 2, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 Charles F. Kinkade, age 3 months, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > > > 1860 Sarah H. Kinkade, age 57, born KY, farm manager, Grayson County, > KY, > p. 523, image 523, family 1196. > > 1860 Abraham Kinkade, age 20, born KY, farm laborer, Grayson County, > KY. > > 1860 George W. Kinkade, age 19, born KY, farm laborer, Grayson County, > KY. > > 1860 Ligin W. Kinkade, age 17, born KY, farm laborer, Grayson County, > KY. > > 1860 Eliza Kinkade, age 15, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > 1860 Elizabeth Cain, age 48, born KY, Grayson County, KY. > > ?Name: Louisa Kinkade > ?Surname: Kinkade > ?Given Name: Louisa > ?_AKA: Eliza > ?Sex: F > ?Birth: 22 Mar 1845 in Olna, IL 1 > ?Death: 22 Apr 1915 in Grayson Co., KY 2 1 > ?Burial: St. Mary's Cemetery, Grayson Co., KY 3 1 > ?_UID: A3C38201229F784B9C47A2845689EB75B5F5 > ?Note: > Death Certificate Info: > Luiza Pirtle > Date of Birth: March 22 1845 Place: Olna, Illinois > Date of Death: April 22 1915 Place: Grayson Co., KY. > Age at death: 70 yrs 0 mos 30 dys. > Cause of death: Softening of brain (thrombus of brain) > Burial: April 23 in Petty Graveyard, Grayson Co. > Name of Father: William S. Kinkade BP: Ireland > Name of Mother: Sarah H. Cain BP: KY > Informant: J.L. Pirtle of Big Clifty, KY. > > Olney, IL is in Richland county, IL. Several of Robert/Mary's children > moved to the Richland County area, including Clay County, beginning about > 1830. > > > Grayson County, KY census 1870 > > > 1870 S.H. Kinkade, age 66, born KY, white, female, keeps house, > Litchfield, Grayson County, KY, p. 42, family 307. > > [In household of J.T Pirtle, age 25, born KY.] > > > 1870 J.C. Kingkade, age 34, born KY, white, male, farmer, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY, p. 4, family 22. > > 1870 Winnie A. Kingkade, age 25, born KY, white, female, keeps house, > Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 John F. Kingkade, age 5, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, Grayson > County, KY. > > 1870 Emmeline T. Kingkade, age 2, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 Joshua W. Kingkade, age 9 months, born KY, white, male, Precinct > 5, > Grayson County, KY. > > > > 1870 Samuel Kingkade, age 46, born KY, white, male, farmer, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY, p. 34, family 240. > > 1870 Menervia Kingkade, age 44, born KY, white, female, keeps house, > Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 Martha W. Kingkade, age 17, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 William T. Kingkade, age 16, born KY, white, male, farm laborer, > Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 Frances J. Kingkade, age 14, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 James B.C. Kingkade, age 12, born KY, white, male, farm laborer, > Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 Charles F. Kingkade, age 10, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 Sarah A. Kingkade, age 7, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, > Grayson County, KY. > > 1870 John S. Kingkade, age 3, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, Grayson > County, KY. > > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: Luis Castillo Jr > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:24 PM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 64 > > I am looking for further info on the Rev War Patriot, William Kinkade and > his descendants. Spelled first 'Kincaid' then 'Kinkead' and finally > 'Kinkade" I know Guy Kinkade and Lovie Dictum are in this line. > My Grandfather was Samuel Kinkade who lived and died in Grayson Co KY. > and > was married to Minerva Brunk. > I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. > Jean Sadler > Stockton, CA > > > >> On Mar 29, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Kinkead families of Christian County, IL (Barbara Van Hout) >> 2. Re: Kinkead families of Christian County, IL (Courtney Kahler) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:07:57 -0400 >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <886E4F71DDBB467C9DAA40D4914B969F@INSPIRON560> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I could not find Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel in the 1870 Federal >> Census for Illinois. Both of them are buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in >> Christian County, IL. But their son Charles Kinkead was living in >> Christian >> County, IL according to the 1870 census. >> >> HH 34 >> W E Cushing 36 >> Susan Cushing 35 >> Irving Cushing 13 >> Horrace Cushing 12 >> Samuel Cushing 9 >> Chs Kinkade 20 >> Lucy Demott 21 >> >> KINKEAD, RICHARD R CUSHING, LENORA B 1873-04-16 00B 0066 00003221 >> CHRISTIAN, IL >> Charles also went by the name of Richard? >> >> CUSHING, SAMUEL KINKEAD, LENA 1883-03-22 00B 0189 00005599 >> CHRISTIAN, >> IL >> >> This is the Guy H Kincaid/Isabella family in the 1860 Federal Census for >> Greene County, IL: >> >> G H Kincaid 37 >> Isabella Kincaid 37 >> Charles Kincaid 10 >> Candice Kincaid 1 >> >> But I did find another, older age 67 Guy Kinkead in the 1870 Christian >> County, IL >> census in the household of M L Young and his wife, who was a Kinkead. >> This >> couple >> was married in 1854, according to IL marriage records. >> >> YOUNG, M L KINKEAD, E L 1854-10-01 00A 0070 00000479 CHRISTIAN >> >> This is what Norman found for this older Guy Kinkead: >> >> 1870 Guy Kinkead, age 67, born KY, white, male, physician, Township >> 13, >> Range 2, Christian County, IL, p. 29, family 202. >> [In household of M.C. Young, age 44, born KY.] >> >> This Guy Kinkead appears to have been the son of Guy Kinkead, Sr. and >> Lovie >> Dictum of Christian County, KY. The age works for him to have been their >> son. >> >> In 1860, Guy Kinkead and his son Oliver G Kinkead were living together in >> Trigg County, KY. Oliver's mother was Sarah Ann McReynolds, daughter of >> Oliver McReynolds and Mary Elizabeth Steele, >> according to family search records. Sarah was Guy Kinkead's second wife. >> He was married first to Susan Allen in 1830. >> >> By 1880, the older Guy Kinkead's son Oliver G (Guy) Kinkead had moved to >> Christian County, IL. >> >> Family search records: >> O.G. Kinkead >> marriage: 8 October 1863 Christian, Kentucky >> spouse: Mary V. Wood >> >> >> Christian County IL >> >> 1880 O.G. Kincade, born 1842, in KY, age 38, white, married, farmer, >> father b KY, mother b VA, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL, p. 723B. >> >> 1880 Mary V. Kincade, born born 1842, in KY, age 38, white, married, >> keeps house, father b KY, mother b VA, >> >> wife of O.G. Kincade, Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Maud Kincade, born 1866, in IL, age 14, white, single, daughter >> of >> O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Mary E. Kincade, born 1868, in IL, age 12, white, single, >> daughter >> of O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Sarah E. Kincade, born 1870, in IL, age 10, white, single, >> daughter >> of O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Pearl Kincade, born 1876, in IL, age 4, white, single, daughter >> of >> O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Olive Kincade, born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, single, daughter >> of >> O.G. Kincade, >> >> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201880%20Census/kincaids%20in%201880%20united%20states%20census%20ga-il.htm >> >> The 1880 census for Christian County, IL included Isabel >> Kincaid, >> widow and her daughters. The following records are from Norman's 1880 >> census website: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201880%20Census/kincaids%20in%201880%20united%20states%20census%20ga-il.htm >> >> 1880 Isabell Kinkead, born 1830, in IL, age 50, white, widowed, keeps >> house, father b KY, mother b KY, >> >> Assumption, Christian County, IL, p. 467C. >> >> 1880 Candas Kinkead, born 1860, in IL, age 20, white, single, school >> teacher, father b KY, mother b IL, >> >> daughter of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Emma L. Kinkead, born 1862, in IL, age 18, white, single, at >> home, >> father b KY, mother b IL, >> >> daughter of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >> >> 1880 Christopher C. Coonrod, born 1839, in IL, age 41, white, widowed, >> grocer, father b KY, mother b KY, >> >> brother of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >> >> >> Barbara >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barbara Van Hout >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:34 PM >> To: Courtney Kahler ; kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Kincaids of Greene and Pike County, IL >> >> According to find-a-grave.com, the burial location of >> Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel is at the Greenwood Cemetery in >> Christian County, IL. >> >> Kinkead, Guy H 72268429 >> b. 1824 d. 1875 Greenwood Cemetery >> Assumption >> Christian County >> Illinois, USA >> >> Kinkead, Isabel 72268491 >> b. 1830 d. 1904 Greenwood Cemetery >> Assumption >> Christian County >> Illinois, USA >> >> >> Barbara >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Courtney Kahler >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:58 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois >> >> It would be good to learn if this George and Polly had a relation to my >> great great great grandfather Guy. And he did state he was a blacksmith >> on >> one of the censuses. On another he said he was a merchant. So maybe he >> changed trades at some point. >> >> It was previously suggested there was a relation to a woman named Barbara >> Kincaid. And if she is his mother, then his father most likely died >> before >> 1850. Below is copied an old archived list email from Randy. >> >> On another note, I'm certain that Martha J "Punsley" as listed in the >> marriage record is actually Martha Jane Pursley. Martha Jane Pursley's >> sister Susan Pursley Cushing had a son named Samuel E Cushing, and he >> married Emma Lena Kinkead who was a daughter of Guy Kinkead (from his 2nd >> marriage with Isabel Lamb). Also Charles Richard Kinkead (son of Guy and >> Martha) married Leonora Bell Cushing who was a cousin to Samuel E >> Cushing. >> There's a few connections between the Kinkeads, Cushings, and Pursleys in >> that time frame, so they all must have been a close-knit group. >> >> >> Courtney Kahler >> >> www.chainedheartjewelry.com >> >> >> From: Randy Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> >> Sent: 02/04/03 04:36 PM >> To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Guy Kincaid: Christian Cty, KY >> >>> >>> This is a long shot but the following Illinois KINCAID/KINKEAD family >>> group >> may tie into this. I've kept track of them as they are in the same >> general >> area at the same time as my Kincaids, but I've never found an indication >> that they were related. To all appearances they are a different line. In >> many records, the following group is spelled KINKEAD; in some records >> KINCAID. >> >> Barbara Kincaid/Kinkead is in Greene Co., Illinois as early as 1834 when >> she purchases 80 acres with the Illinois record dated in March 1834 and a >> federal patent granted in 1835. On the land patent she is noted as >> "Barbara >> Kincaid of Greene Co., Illinois." >> >> KINCAID BARBARA FD W2SE 15 10N 10W 3 80.00 1.25 >> 100.00 FEMALE 03/12/1834 GREENE 343 136 >> >> >> In the 1850 federal census, Barbara is found in Macoupin County, unknown >> Townships as follows: >> >> Barbara KINKEAD 56 F b. Ohio >> Jackson KINKEAD 21 Farmer M b. Kentucky >> Archie KINKEAD 19 Farmer M b. Kentucky >> Levi KINKEAD 22 Farmer M b. Kentucky >> >> Also in the 1850 federal census can be found Guy H. Kinkead, known to be >> Barbara's son from other records. He is found in Greene County, Macoupin >> & >> Apple Creek Township. >> >> Guy H. KINKEAD 25 M Blacksmith b. Kentucky >> Martha J. KINKEAD 22 F b. Kentucky >> Richard KINKEAD 1 M b. Illinois >> Mary F. KINKEAD 18 F b. Kentucky (Guy's sister, Barbara's daughter?) >> >> The given name Guy seems to be relegated to only a couple of Kincaid >> lines >> so this may be a good clue. >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois >> (Barbara >> Van Hout) >> >> >> Are then any other known vitals for George that would help establish his >> age? What are the ages of the children in 1840? Can Polly be found in >> 1850? >> If some of the children were minors in 1844 then it would make sense for >> George to leave her the means of caring for them with the reliance that >> she >> would distribute the property among the children at her death. Then >> there >> is always the possibility that the children in the household were not >> George's children. >> >> Kim, it is always helpful to have a DNA participant from the line of an >> early Kincaid with unknown connections. Knowing who he is closely related >> to >> can help guide further research and expands our knowledge of the several >> Kincaid families. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara >> Van Hout) >> >> >>> I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 >>> Greene >>> County, IL census. His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a >>> connection >>> to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. >>> Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife >>> Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. >>> They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was >>> Mary >>> F. Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. >>> >>> The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female >>> children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to >>> inherit his land and possessions. If none of their children were >>> included >>> in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children >>> to >>> contest the will? >>> >>> All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of >>> the >>> will. >>> >>> George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: >>> >>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >>> >>> Who was Jefferson Dixon? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kim Kincaid >>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM >>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois >>> (Barbara >>> Van Hout) >>> >>> >>> HI Barbara, >>> >>> I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were >>> household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not >>> make >>> copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. >>> >>> If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in >>> Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in >>> Missouri to look for Kincaids. >>> >>> Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful >>> to >>> me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my >>> husband's >>> Kincaid's did not. >>> >>> Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? >>> >>> Kim >>> >>> Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" >>> <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike >>> County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: >>> <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; >>> format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the >>> blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate >>> packet?A >>> blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and >>> workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The >>> Most >>> Important Man in the >>> Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original >>> Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: >>> kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, >>> IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and >>> find >>> the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the >>> books! >>> .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: >>> Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald >>> Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID:>> >>> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new >>> information. >>> I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. >>> In >>> George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald >>> Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint >>> his >>> "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools >>> are >>> bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be >>> wrong >>> to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. >>> Where >>> the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a >>> specified >>> relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could >>> be >>> a nephew, a cousi! >>> n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does >>> not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be >>> part >>> of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. >>> >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Courtney Kahler <ckinkead@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >> To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1396045022.95074.YahooMailNeo@web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> I've noticed on Ancestry that there are people who mistake this other Guy >> Kinkead with mine and tie him to the Kinkead/Dictum line.? Definitely not >> the same person.? Guy H's son Charles Richard was sometimes listed as >> Richard when he was younger. >> >> >> On another note entirely... Please remember the families and friends of >> the Oso Landslide victims.? I am one of those people.? If you have seen >> mention of Christina Jefferds and Sanoah Huestis mentioned... Sanoah was >> my new baby cousin.? Christina was an ex of my cousin and was still very >> close with our family.? They were both loved and it is a hard loss.? >> Sanoah isn't Kinkead ancestry as her family is my mom's side.? But they >> were part of this Kinkead's family.? The Oso community is very tiny, and >> my mother and her family lived in Darrington, which is also fairly >> small.? >> It is a tight-knit group and this is a huge loss for the community as a >> whole.? If any of you want to donate for the families of the victims, I >> recommend giving straight to the community itself.? This site was set up >> by the Oso Community Chapel. >> >> http://www.osomudsliderelief.org/ >> >> ? >> Courtney Kahler >> >> >> www.chainedheartjewelry.com >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:07 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >> >> >> I could not find Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel in the 1870 Federal >> Census for Illinois. Both of them are buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in >> Christian County, IL.? But their son Charles Kinkead was living in >> Christian >> County, IL according to the 1870 census. >> >> HH 34 >> W E Cushing 36 >> Susan Cushing 35 >> Irving Cushing 13 >> Horrace Cushing 12 >> Samuel Cushing 9 >> Chs Kinkade 20 >> Lucy Demott 21 >> >> KINKEAD, RICHARD R? CUSHING, LENORA B? 1873-04-16? 00B? 0066? 00003221 >> CHRISTIAN, IL >> Charles also went by the name of Richard? >> >> CUSHING, SAMUEL? KINKEAD, LENA? 1883-03-22? 00B? 0189? 00005599? >> CHRISTIAN, >> IL >> >> This is the Guy H Kincaid/Isabella family in the 1860 Federal Census for >> Greene County, IL: >> >> G H Kincaid? 37 >> Isabella Kincaid? 37 >> Charles Kincaid? 10 >> Candice Kincaid? 1 >> >> But I did find another, older age 67 Guy Kinkead in the 1870 Christian >> County, IL >> census in? the household of M L Young and his wife, who was a Kinkead.? >> This >> couple >> was married in 1854, according to IL marriage records. >> >> YOUNG, M L? KINKEAD, E L? 1854-10-01? 00A? 0070? 00000479? CHRISTIAN >> >> This is what Norman found for this older Guy Kinkead: >> >> 1870? ? Guy Kinkead, age 67, born KY, white, male, physician, Township >> 13, >> Range 2, Christian County, IL, p. 29, family 202. >> [In household of M.C. Young, age 44, born KY.] >> >> This Guy Kinkead appears to have been the son of Guy Kinkead, Sr. and >> Lovie >> Dictum of Christian County, KY.? The age works for him to have been their >> son. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to >> KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to >> KINCAID@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 64 >> ************************************** > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to > KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to > KINCAID@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 67 > ************************************** For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To be clear, the direct paternal ancestor of this cluster of Kincaids is well represented today thanks to successful generation of male offspring over the last 300 years (more or less). Peter -----Original Message----- From: Larry Kincaid Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:24 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] New dna result 332094 Hi Peter, Cannot help asking if you meant "Quite a cluster of prolific Kincaids" or prolific cluster. Larry (Don) Kincaid, not so prolific Group C-2 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Peter Kincaid <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca>wrote: > The latest dna participant believes descent from John Kincaid > and Ann Gram. They match the other participant claiming > descent from them except for a mutation at the cdy markers > which the latter has. This puts John Kincaid and Ann Graham > with the main pack (2562 etc) of Sue's set 1a cluster. Quite > a prolific cluster of Kincaids. > > Peter > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- dddddddd For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: www.kincaiddna.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter, Cannot help asking if you meant "Quite a cluster of prolific Kincaids" or prolific cluster. Larry (Don) Kincaid, not so prolific Group C-2 On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Peter Kincaid <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca>wrote: > The latest dna participant believes descent from John Kincaid > and Ann Gram. They match the other participant claiming > descent from them except for a mutation at the cdy markers > which the latter has. This puts John Kincaid and Ann Graham > with the main pack (2562 etc) of Sue's set 1a cluster. Quite > a prolific cluster of Kincaids. > > Peter > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- dddddddd

There is a question whether the descent is from John/Ann Graham. Information provided to me by the researcher indicates she believes descent from William Kincaid (son of Samuel of the 3 Wives) who m Jane Kincaid, dau of John/Elizabeth Gillespy. She has not given me the downline from William/Jane. It may take her some time to sort through her notes and take a look at information I have sent her as she is quite busy at this time and has been confident that she descends from John/Ann Graham. There was a postmistress in Fayette Co. (I can't remember her name) who gathered antidotal information and relied on H.C Kincaid's work. Her linkages were widely circulated. In her work Samuel of the 3 Wives as well as John/Elizabeth Gillespie are said to be sons of John/Ann Graham. I can't remember exactly her other connections but I believe she goes through Thomas/Sarah Gwinn (the son of William/Agness, proven son of Thomas/Margaret Lockhart of the Great Calf Pasture) directly to Thomas/Margaret without involving William/Agness. I do know that Leslie had a heck of a time proving to one of the Fayette Co. Kincaids (who believed the postmistress's lineages) that Thomas/Sarah had no connection whatever to her Kincaid lineage. John/Ann had proven sons Matthew b pr 1784 & Lanty b c1780 but there is no indication of either a son Samuel or a son John, though I would not be surprised if a John did show up as that was Ann Graham's father's name and I suspect John's father's name also. There are several brief mentions of a John in Grbr records that can't be positively identified as either John/Ann or John/Elizabeth. In particular a John Kincaid m Margaret Harrah, widow of William Harrah in 1808. In 1810 John/Margaret buys land on Muddy from Thomas/Hannah then sell part to Robert/Ann Elliott Kincaid. Robert/Ann sell out and return to Anthony Creek but John remains on Muddy. Later Court records show Matthew and Lanty along with John named in a suit involving Wm Harrah's estate. Margaret moved to KY with her son Danial and reverted to the Harrah name leaving John to deal with the other disgruntled heirs.. This John could possibly be a widowed John/Ann or possibly a son John. William Harrah was brother to Danial and Charles Harrah who m the daughters of Thomas/Hannah. I believe the confusion came because after moving from Anthony Creek to Muddy Creek starting about 1810, John/Ann's known children intermixed with the known children and grandchildren of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. Adding to the confusion Samuel and John/Elizabeth both had sons named Matthew as did John/Ann. We know from deeds and court records that Thomas/Hannah had a proven grandson Matthew Kincaid as well as a proven grandson Matthew Harrah though I don't know if and how Thomas/Hannah figured into the postmistresses' account..John/Ann was born pr 1750 as in 1771 he buys land in Beverly Manor from John the Weaver. Thomas/Hannah was born pr 1744 as in 1765 he bought land in Albemarle Co next to Matthew, son of John the Weaver. I suspect the Matthew name in both families was in honor of John the Weaver's son Matthew d 1775. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:32 AM Subject: [KINCAID] New dna result 332094 > The latest dna participant believes descent from John Kincaid > and Ann Gram. They match the other participant claiming > descent from them except for a mutation at the cdy markers > which the latter has. This puts John Kincaid and Ann Graham > with the main pack (2562 etc) of Sue's set 1a cluster. Quite > a prolific cluster of Kincaids. > > Peter > > > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, > including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The latest dna participant believes descent from John Kincaid and Ann Gram. They match the other participant claiming descent from them except for a mutation at the cdy markers which the latter has. This puts John Kincaid and Ann Graham with the main pack (2562 etc) of Sue's set 1a cluster. Quite a prolific cluster of Kincaids. Peter

Hi Luis, There are a great many people on this mail list who have done a lot of research and are willing to help when they are given some information. Could you please tell us something about the Kinkade you have in the family? Full names, approximate dates, location and spouse can be useful in our identifying the Kinkade you seek. It looks like the Kinkade and Brunk you have tie into Barbara's posting of information? Welcome to the list and I hope we can be of help. Ruth Cherecwich, List Administrator Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Luis Castillo Jr <jeancsadler@me.com> wrote: > > Surnames that I am researching: > Sadler > Kinkade > Meredith > Skaggs > Brunk > > > > >> On Mar 31, 2014, at 12:31 PM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Samuel Kinkade/Minerva Brunk (Barbara Van Hout) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:31:07 -0400 >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> Subject: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkade/Minerva Brunk >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <D5DAA4886C274D2DB9CF4FD5A7C8305A@INSPIRON560> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I am interested in how you descend from Samuel Kinkade/Minerva Brunk. I >> believe that Samuel was the son of William S. Kinkade/Sarah H Cain. Sarah >> was William's second wife and Sarah moved to Grayson County with her >> children after William died. William's first wife was Harriet Kermickle and >> they married in 1811 in Hardin County, KY. >> >> William S Kinkade was the oldest son of Robert Kinkade/Mary Bowman of Hardin >> County, KY. Robert served for 3 years in the American Revolution and filed >> for a pension in 1820. >> >> This includes Robert's will. Sadie Kinkead of St. Louis, who wrote the >> letter seeking information about Robert and his RW service, >> is a descendant of William S. Kinkade and Sarah of Grayson County. >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kyphoenix2&id=I97 >> >> There is a lot more information about these families: >> Grayson & Hardin Co., Kentucky - Kinkade's & related families >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=kyphoenix2&surname=K >> >> We have a DNA sample from a descendant of Sarah H Kinkade's son James C >> Kinkade, which matches very closely to William/Harriet's older son W M S >> Kinkade who married Mary Margaret Upton in Hardin County. >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KINCAID/2011-10/1318603365 >> >> James C. Shelton Kinkade >> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=281&GScid=2194569&GRid=44295378& >> >> Birth: 1836 >> Hardin County >> Kentucky, USA >> Death: Jan. 15, 1945 >> >> James C. Shelton Kinkade, the son of William S. Kinkade and Sarah Harriet >> Cain, was born in February 1836 in Hardin County, Kentucky. >> >> Burial: >> McGrew Cemetery >> Leitchfield >> Grayson County >> Kentucky, USA >> >> Created by: VirJean Potter Bozarth (... >> Record added: Nov 13, 2009 >> Find A Grave Memorial# 44295378 >> >> >> >> Grayson County, KY census, >> from Norman Kincaide's website: >> >> >> 1850 Samuel Kinkade, age 26, born KY, farmer, Grayson County, KY, >> household 130. >> >> 1850 Minerva Kinkade, age 23, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Temperance J. Kinkade, age 4, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Harriet M. Kinkade, age 2, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Mary A. Kinkade, age 8 months, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> >> >> 1850 Sarah Kinkade, age 45, born KY, Grayson County, KY, household 264. >> >> 1850 Isabella Kinkade, age 16, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Emeline Kinkade, age 16, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 James C. Kinkade, age 13, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Abraham P. Kinkade, age 11, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 George W. Kinkade, age 9, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Liggin Kinkade, age 7, male, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1850 Eliza Kinkade, age 5, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> >> 1860 >> Grayson County, KY >> >> >> 1860 Samuel Kinkade, age 36, born KY, farmer, Grayson County, KY, p. 383, >> image 383, family 236. >> >> 1860 Minerva Kinkade, age 34, born KY, housekeepking, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Temperance Kinkade, age 14, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Harriet Kinkade, age 11, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Martha Kinkade, age 8, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 William T. Kinkade, age 6, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Frances J. Kinkade, age 4, born KY, female, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 James B.C. Kinkade, age 2, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Charles F. Kinkade, age 3 months, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> >> >> 1860 Sarah H. Kinkade, age 57, born KY, farm manager, Grayson County, KY, >> p. 523, image 523, family 1196. >> >> 1860 Abraham Kinkade, age 20, born KY, farm laborer, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 George W. Kinkade, age 19, born KY, farm laborer, Grayson County, >> KY. >> >> 1860 Ligin W. Kinkade, age 17, born KY, farm laborer, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Eliza Kinkade, age 15, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1860 Elizabeth Cain, age 48, born KY, Grayson County, KY. >> >> ?Name: Louisa Kinkade >> ?Surname: Kinkade >> ?Given Name: Louisa >> ?_AKA: Eliza >> ?Sex: F >> ?Birth: 22 Mar 1845 in Olna, IL 1 >> ?Death: 22 Apr 1915 in Grayson Co., KY 2 1 >> ?Burial: St. Mary's Cemetery, Grayson Co., KY 3 1 >> ?_UID: A3C38201229F784B9C47A2845689EB75B5F5 >> ?Note: >> Death Certificate Info: >> Luiza Pirtle >> Date of Birth: March 22 1845 Place: Olna, Illinois >> Date of Death: April 22 1915 Place: Grayson Co., KY. >> Age at death: 70 yrs 0 mos 30 dys. >> Cause of death: Softening of brain (thrombus of brain) >> Burial: April 23 in Petty Graveyard, Grayson Co. >> Name of Father: William S. Kinkade BP: Ireland >> Name of Mother: Sarah H. Cain BP: KY >> Informant: J.L. Pirtle of Big Clifty, KY. >> >> Olney, IL is in Richland county, IL. Several of Robert/Mary's children >> moved to the Richland County area, including Clay County, beginning about >> 1830. >> >> >> Grayson County, KY census 1870 >> >> >> 1870 S.H. Kinkade, age 66, born KY, white, female, keeps house, >> Litchfield, Grayson County, KY, p. 42, family 307. >> >> [In household of J.T Pirtle, age 25, born KY.] >> >> >> 1870 J.C. Kingkade, age 34, born KY, white, male, farmer, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY, p. 4, family 22. >> >> 1870 Winnie A. Kingkade, age 25, born KY, white, female, keeps house, >> Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 John F. Kingkade, age 5, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, Grayson >> County, KY. >> >> 1870 Emmeline T. Kingkade, age 2, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 Joshua W. Kingkade, age 9 months, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY. >> >> >> >> 1870 Samuel Kingkade, age 46, born KY, white, male, farmer, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY, p. 34, family 240. >> >> 1870 Menervia Kingkade, age 44, born KY, white, female, keeps house, >> Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 Martha W. Kingkade, age 17, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 William T. Kingkade, age 16, born KY, white, male, farm laborer, >> Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 Frances J. Kingkade, age 14, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 James B.C. Kingkade, age 12, born KY, white, male, farm laborer, >> Precinct 5, Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 Charles F. Kingkade, age 10, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 Sarah A. Kingkade, age 7, born KY, white, female, Precinct 5, >> Grayson County, KY. >> >> 1870 John S. Kingkade, age 3, born KY, white, male, Precinct 5, Grayson >> County, KY. >> >> >> Barbara >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Luis Castillo Jr >> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:24 PM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 64 >> >> I am looking for further info on the Rev War Patriot, William Kinkade and >> his descendants. Spelled first 'Kincaid' then 'Kinkead' and finally >> 'Kinkade" I know Guy Kinkade and Lovie Dictum are in this line. >> My Grandfather was Samuel Kinkade who lived and died in Grayson Co KY. and >> was married to Minerva Brunk. >> I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. >> Jean Sadler >> Stockton, CA >> >> >> >>> On Mar 29, 2014, at 12:00 AM, kincaid-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Kinkead families of Christian County, IL (Barbara Van Hout) >>> 2. Re: Kinkead families of Christian County, IL (Courtney Kahler) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:07:57 -0400 >>> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >>> Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >>> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <886E4F71DDBB467C9DAA40D4914B969F@INSPIRON560> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> I could not find Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel in the 1870 Federal >>> Census for Illinois. Both of them are buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in >>> Christian County, IL. But their son Charles Kinkead was living in >>> Christian >>> County, IL according to the 1870 census. >>> >>> HH 34 >>> W E Cushing 36 >>> Susan Cushing 35 >>> Irving Cushing 13 >>> Horrace Cushing 12 >>> Samuel Cushing 9 >>> Chs Kinkade 20 >>> Lucy Demott 21 >>> >>> KINKEAD, RICHARD R CUSHING, LENORA B 1873-04-16 00B 0066 00003221 >>> CHRISTIAN, IL >>> Charles also went by the name of Richard? >>> >>> CUSHING, SAMUEL KINKEAD, LENA 1883-03-22 00B 0189 00005599 >>> CHRISTIAN, >>> IL >>> >>> This is the Guy H Kincaid/Isabella family in the 1860 Federal Census for >>> Greene County, IL: >>> >>> G H Kincaid 37 >>> Isabella Kincaid 37 >>> Charles Kincaid 10 >>> Candice Kincaid 1 >>> >>> But I did find another, older age 67 Guy Kinkead in the 1870 Christian >>> County, IL >>> census in the household of M L Young and his wife, who was a Kinkead. >>> This >>> couple >>> was married in 1854, according to IL marriage records. >>> >>> YOUNG, M L KINKEAD, E L 1854-10-01 00A 0070 00000479 CHRISTIAN >>> >>> This is what Norman found for this older Guy Kinkead: >>> >>> 1870 Guy Kinkead, age 67, born KY, white, male, physician, Township 13, >>> Range 2, Christian County, IL, p. 29, family 202. >>> [In household of M.C. Young, age 44, born KY.] >>> >>> This Guy Kinkead appears to have been the son of Guy Kinkead, Sr. and >>> Lovie >>> Dictum of Christian County, KY. The age works for him to have been their >>> son. >>> >>> In 1860, Guy Kinkead and his son Oliver G Kinkead were living together in >>> Trigg County, KY. Oliver's mother was Sarah Ann McReynolds, daughter of >>> Oliver McReynolds and Mary Elizabeth Steele, >>> according to family search records. Sarah was Guy Kinkead's second wife. >>> He was married first to Susan Allen in 1830. >>> >>> By 1880, the older Guy Kinkead's son Oliver G (Guy) Kinkead had moved to >>> Christian County, IL. >>> >>> Family search records: >>> O.G. Kinkead >>> marriage: 8 October 1863 Christian, Kentucky >>> spouse: Mary V. Wood >>> >>> >>> Christian County IL >>> >>> 1880 O.G. Kincade, born 1842, in KY, age 38, white, married, farmer, >>> father b KY, mother b VA, >>> >>> Taylorville, Christian County, IL, p. 723B. >>> >>> 1880 Mary V. Kincade, born born 1842, in KY, age 38, white, married, >>> keeps house, father b KY, mother b VA, >>> >>> wife of O.G. Kincade, Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Maud Kincade, born 1866, in IL, age 14, white, single, daughter of >>> O.G. Kincade, >>> >>> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Mary E. Kincade, born 1868, in IL, age 12, white, single, daughter >>> of O.G. Kincade, >>> >>> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Sarah E. Kincade, born 1870, in IL, age 10, white, single, >>> daughter >>> of O.G. Kincade, >>> >>> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Pearl Kincade, born 1876, in IL, age 4, white, single, daughter of >>> O.G. Kincade, >>> >>> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Olive Kincade, born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, single, daughter of >>> O.G. Kincade, >>> >>> Taylorville, Christian County, IL. >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201880%20Census/kincaids%20in%201880%20united%20states%20census%20ga-il.htm >>> >>> The 1880 census for Christian County, IL included Isabel >>> Kincaid, >>> widow and her daughters. The following records are from Norman's 1880 >>> census website: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Research/Kincaids%20in%201880%20Census/kincaids%20in%201880%20united%20states%20census%20ga-il.htm >>> >>> 1880 Isabell Kinkead, born 1830, in IL, age 50, white, widowed, keeps >>> house, father b KY, mother b KY, >>> >>> Assumption, Christian County, IL, p. 467C. >>> >>> 1880 Candas Kinkead, born 1860, in IL, age 20, white, single, school >>> teacher, father b KY, mother b IL, >>> >>> daughter of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Emma L. Kinkead, born 1862, in IL, age 18, white, single, at home, >>> father b KY, mother b IL, >>> >>> daughter of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> 1880 Christopher C. Coonrod, born 1839, in IL, age 41, white, widowed, >>> grocer, father b KY, mother b KY, >>> >>> brother of Isabell Kinkead, Assumption, Christian County, IL. >>> >>> >>> Barbara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Barbara Van Hout >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:34 PM >>> To: Courtney Kahler ; kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Kincaids of Greene and Pike County, IL >>> >>> According to find-a-grave.com, the burial location of >>> Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel is at the Greenwood Cemetery in >>> Christian County, IL. >>> >>> Kinkead, Guy H 72268429 >>> b. 1824 d. 1875 Greenwood Cemetery >>> Assumption >>> Christian County >>> Illinois, USA >>> >>> Kinkead, Isabel 72268491 >>> b. 1830 d. 1904 Greenwood Cemetery >>> Assumption >>> Christian County >>> Illinois, USA >>> >>> >>> Barbara >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Courtney Kahler >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:58 AM >>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois >>> >>> It would be good to learn if this George and Polly had a relation to my >>> great great great grandfather Guy. And he did state he was a blacksmith >>> on >>> one of the censuses. On another he said he was a merchant. So maybe he >>> changed trades at some point. >>> >>> It was previously suggested there was a relation to a woman named Barbara >>> Kincaid. And if she is his mother, then his father most likely died >>> before >>> 1850. Below is copied an old archived list email from Randy. >>> >>> On another note, I'm certain that Martha J "Punsley" as listed in the >>> marriage record is actually Martha Jane Pursley. Martha Jane Pursley's >>> sister Susan Pursley Cushing had a son named Samuel E Cushing, and he >>> married Emma Lena Kinkead who was a daughter of Guy Kinkead (from his 2nd >>> marriage with Isabel Lamb). Also Charles Richard Kinkead (son of Guy and >>> Martha) married Leonora Bell Cushing who was a cousin to Samuel E Cushing. >>> There's a few connections between the Kinkeads, Cushings, and Pursleys in >>> that time frame, so they all must have been a close-knit group. >>> >>> >>> Courtney Kahler >>> >>> www.chainedheartjewelry.com >>> >>> >>> From: Randy Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com> >>> Sent: 02/04/03 04:36 PM >>> To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Guy Kincaid: Christian Cty, KY >>> >>>> >>>> This is a long shot but the following Illinois KINCAID/KINKEAD family >>>> group >>> may tie into this. I've kept track of them as they are in the same general >>> area at the same time as my Kincaids, but I've never found an indication >>> that they were related. To all appearances they are a different line. In >>> many records, the following group is spelled KINKEAD; in some records >>> KINCAID. >>> >>> Barbara Kincaid/Kinkead is in Greene Co., Illinois as early as 1834 when >>> she purchases 80 acres with the Illinois record dated in March 1834 and a >>> federal patent granted in 1835. On the land patent she is noted as >>> "Barbara >>> Kincaid of Greene Co., Illinois." >>> >>> KINCAID BARBARA FD W2SE 15 10N 10W 3 80.00 1.25 >>> 100.00 FEMALE 03/12/1834 GREENE 343 136 >>> >>> >>> In the 1850 federal census, Barbara is found in Macoupin County, unknown >>> Townships as follows: >>> >>> Barbara KINKEAD 56 F b. Ohio >>> Jackson KINKEAD 21 Farmer M b. Kentucky >>> Archie KINKEAD 19 Farmer M b. Kentucky >>> Levi KINKEAD 22 Farmer M b. Kentucky >>> >>> Also in the 1850 federal census can be found Guy H. Kinkead, known to be >>> Barbara's son from other records. He is found in Greene County, Macoupin & >>> Apple Creek Township. >>> >>> Guy H. KINKEAD 25 M Blacksmith b. Kentucky >>> Martha J. KINKEAD 22 F b. Kentucky >>> Richard KINKEAD 1 M b. Illinois >>> Mary F. KINKEAD 18 F b. Kentucky (Guy's sister, Barbara's daughter?) >>> >>> The given name Guy seems to be relegated to only a couple of Kincaid lines >>> so this may be a good clue. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:35 AM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois (Barbara >>> Van Hout) >>> >>> >>> Are then any other known vitals for George that would help establish his >>> age? What are the ages of the children in 1840? Can Polly be found in >>> 1850? >>> If some of the children were minors in 1844 then it would make sense for >>> George to leave her the means of caring for them with the reliance that >>> she >>> would distribute the property among the children at her death. Then there >>> is always the possibility that the children in the household were not >>> George's children. >>> >>> Kim, it is always helpful to have a DNA participant from the line of an >>> early Kincaid with unknown connections. Knowing who he is closely related >>> to >>> can help guide further research and expands our knowledge of the several >>> Kincaid families. >>> >>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara >>> Van Hout) >>> >>> >>>> I looked at Courtney's ancestor, Guy H. Kincaid, who is in the 1850 >>>> Greene >>>> County, IL census. His occupation was blacksmith, suggesting a >>>> connection >>>> to George Kincaid/Polly of Greene County. >>>> Guy is shown as age 25, born in Kentucky, and his wife >>>> Martha J was a. 22, also born in KY. >>>> They had a son Richard, a. 1 born in Illinois, and living with them was >>>> Mary >>>> F. Kinkead a. 18, born in KY, possibly a sister of Guy. >>>> >>>> The 1830 and 1840 censuses for Greene County, IL show male and female >>>> children in George's family, but his will names only his wife Polly to >>>> inherit his land and possessions. If none of their children were >>>> included >>>> in George's will, would there have been any legal basis for the children >>>> to >>>> contest the will? >>>> >>>> All of the children would have been treated equally, i.e. left out of the >>>> will. >>>> >>>> George Kincaid's 1844 will and estate details, two pages, are here: >>>> >>>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17909-31031-28?cc=1834344&wc=M9MT-BZW:n1299987272 >>>> >>>> Who was Jefferson Dixon? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kim Kincaid >>>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:57 PM >>>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County,Illinois (Barbara >>>> Van Hout) >>>> >>>> >>>> HI Barbara, >>>> >>>> I don't remember any blacksmith tools. Items sold to the Johnson's were >>>> household items, bed, a stove, etc. I can stop back by, but I did not >>>> make >>>> copies. A lot of the notes against the estate where for farm items. >>>> >>>> If timing permits this year, on my trips through the area, I'll stop in >>>> Pike, Greene & Adams counties in Illinois and Marion & Lewis counties in >>>> Missouri to look for Kincaids. >>>> >>>> Any help with a research plan for families in the area would be helpful >>>> to >>>> me. I travel a lot and although my family came from this area, my >>>> husband's >>>> Kincaid's did not. >>>> >>>> Would it be helpful for DNA to find a descendant of Russell Kincaid? >>>> >>>> Kim >>>> >>>> Message: 1Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:12:47 -0400From: "Barbara Van Hout" >>>> <dutchtreat@prodigy.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike >>>> County, IllinoisTo: <kincaid@rootsweb.com>Message-ID: >>>> <CBB0857DAE93490D8BCB4C06EF7B99DA@INSPIRON560>Content-Type: text/plain; >>>> format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=originalKim,Were the >>>> blacksmith tools listed and sold, according to Archibald's estate >>>> packet?A >>>> blacksmith's job was a skilled trade and required years of training and >>>> workas an apprentice to become qualified.The Colonial Blacksmith: The >>>> Most >>>> Important Man in the >>>> Villagehttp://voices.yahoo.com/the-colonial-blacksmith-most-important-man-in-24579.htmlBarbara-----Original >>>> Message----- From: Kim KincaidSent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:32 PMTo: >>>> kincaid@rootsweb.comSubject: [KINCAID] Archibald Kincaid of Pike County, >>>> IllinoisRandall,I'll see if next time I can go to Greene County, IL and >>>> find >>>> the probatepacket for George Kincaid to see if they have more than the >>>> books! >>>> .KimMessage: 3> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:18:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)> From: >>>> Randall Kincaid <rkincaid@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Archibald >>>> Kincaid of Pike County, Illinois> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:>> >>>> <25075520.1394306329374.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8>> Kim, this is good new >>>> information. >>>> I do need to again correct the> informationin Barbara's original post. In >>>> George Kincaid's Greene County, Illinoiswill/probate record Archibald >>>> Kincaid is NOT named as George's son. Therecorddoes specifically appoint >>>> his >>>> "wife, Polly" as executrix and it simplystatesthat the blacksmith tools >>>> are >>>> bequested to "Archibald Kincaid of PikeCounty,Illinois". It would be >>>> wrong >>>> to assign Archibald as George's son as it seemslikely that he is not. >>>> Where >>>> the will specifies the relationship to Polly,it isthe lack of a specified >>>> relationship that makes it likely Archibald is notGeorge's son. It could >>>> be >>>> a nephew, a cousi! >>>> n or other relationship or norelationship. The fact is that will does >>>> not specify any childrenwhatsoever.>> This family group is likely to be >>>> part >>>> of the Andrew Kincaid/Martha> Townsleyfamily. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>>> >>>> www.kincaiddna.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>>> >>>> www.kincaiddna.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >>> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >>> >>> www.kincaiddna.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT) >>> From: Courtney Kahler <ckinkead@yahoo.com> >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >>> To: "kincaid@rootsweb.com" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: >>> <1396045022.95074.YahooMailNeo@web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>> >>> I've noticed on Ancestry that there are people who mistake this other Guy >>> Kinkead with mine and tie him to the Kinkead/Dictum line.? Definitely not >>> the same person.? Guy H's son Charles Richard was sometimes listed as >>> Richard when he was younger. >>> >>> >>> On another note entirely... Please remember the families and friends of >>> the Oso Landslide victims.? I am one of those people.? If you have seen >>> mention of Christina Jefferds and Sanoah Huestis mentioned... Sanoah was >>> my new baby cousin.? Christina was an ex of my cousin and was still very >>> close with our family.? They were both loved and it is a hard loss.? >>> Sanoah isn't Kinkead ancestry as her family is my mom's side.? But they >>> were part of this Kinkead's family.? The Oso community is very tiny, and >>> my mother and her family lived in Darrington, which is also fairly small.? >>> It is a tight-knit group and this is a huge loss for the community as a >>> whole.? If any of you want to donate for the families of the victims, I >>> recommend giving straight to the community itself.? This site was set up >>> by the Oso Community Chapel. >>> >>> http://www.osomudsliderelief.org/ >>> >>> ? >>> Courtney Kahler >>> >>> >>> www.chainedheartjewelry.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >>> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:07 PM >>> Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkead families of Christian County, IL >>> >>> >>> I could not find Guy H. Kinkead and his wife Isabel in the 1870 Federal >>> Census for Illinois. Both of them are buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in >>> Christian County, IL.? But their son Charles Kinkead was living in >>> Christian >>> County, IL according to the 1870 census. >>> >>> HH 34 >>> W E Cushing 36 >>> Susan Cushing 35 >>> Irving Cushing 13 >>> Horrace Cushing 12 >>> Samuel Cushing 9 >>> Chs Kinkade 20 >>> Lucy Demott 21 >>> >>> KINKEAD, RICHARD R? CUSHING, LENORA B? 1873-04-16? 00B? 0066? 00003221 >>> CHRISTIAN, IL >>> Charles also went by the name of Richard? >>> >>> CUSHING, SAMUEL? KINKEAD, LENA? 1883-03-22? 00B? 0189? 00005599? >>> CHRISTIAN, >>> IL >>> >>> This is the Guy H Kincaid/Isabella family in the 1860 Federal Census for >>> Greene County, IL: >>> >>> G H Kincaid? 37 >>> Isabella Kincaid? 37 >>> Charles Kincaid? 10 >>> Candice Kincaid? 1 >>> >>> But I did find another, older age 67 Guy Kinkead in the 1870 Christian >>> County, IL >>> census in? the household of M L Young and his wife, who was a Kinkead.? >>> This >>> couple >>> was married in 1854, according to IL marriage records. >>> >>> YOUNG, M L? KINKEAD, E L? 1854-10-01? 00A? 0070? 00000479? CHRISTIAN >>> >>> This is what Norman found for this older Guy Kinkead: >>> >>> 1870? ? Guy Kinkead, age 67, born KY, white, male, physician, Township 13, >>> Range 2, Christian County, IL, p. 29, family 202. >>> [In household of M.C. Young, age 44, born KY.] >>> >>> This Guy Kinkead appears to have been the son of Guy Kinkead, Sr. and >>> Lovie >>> Dictum of Christian County, KY.? The age works for him to have been their >>> son. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to >>> KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to >>> KINCAID@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >>> of the >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 64 >>> ************************************** >> >> For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, >> including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: >> >> www.kincaiddna.org >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the KINCAID list administrator, send an email to >> KINCAID-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the KINCAID mailing list, send an email to KINCAID@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of KINCAID Digest, Vol 9, Issue 67 >> ************************************** > > For complete information about the Kincaid of all spellings DNA project, including a chart, lineages, and how to participate, go to: > > www.kincaiddna.org > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message