I'm getting the messages just fine on my computer. Maybe when it's not coming through on some computers it has something to do with some particular setting. Claire KinKaid for Charles KinKaid #1494

Mary- Odd. Mine came through fine; all seven Johns and one James. Where does your John fit into the Kinkead tree? Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment, 1st Penn. Regt. >I subscribe to the kincaid rootweb and each of the emails in reference to > John Kinkead is empty (no text in the body) would you know why that > happened? > Mary Kinkead > married to a John Kinkead :-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:41 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment,1st > Penn. Regt. > > >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I subscribe to the kincaid rootweb and each of the emails in reference to John Kinkead is empty (no text in the body) would you know why that happened? Mary Kinkead married to a John Kinkead :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:41 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment,1st Penn. Regt. >

I checked the Kincaid-rootsweb archive and all of the information I posted yesterday is there. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Kinkead <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:07:10 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead Mary- Odd.  Mine came through fine;  all seven Johns and one James. Where does your John fit into the Kinkead tree? Dick Kinkead  2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment, 1st Penn. Regt. >I subscribe to the kincaid rootweb and each of the emails in reference to > John Kinkead is empty (no text in the body) would you know why that > happened? > Mary Kinkead > married to a John Kinkead :-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:41 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment,1st > Penn. Regt. > > >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, you might want to consider the DNA project as a possible help in identifying which tree of the Kincaid family John belongs to. You can check the list archives to see what seems to be missing from the e-mails. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead > How my husband's family fits - I'm not sure. This is what I know: > > My husband - John Robert Kinkead - born in Martinsburg, WV on 5/27/1947 > His father - John Blue Kinkead - born in Springfield, WV on 9/24/1912 - > died Hedgesville, WV - died 10/4/1975 in Martinsburg, WV > His father - John Andrew Kinkead - born in Glenboig in the Landward of New > Monkland in County Lanark Scotland 4/24/1882 (the surname on the birth > record was spelled Kinked). he died April 25, 1940 in Hedgesville, WV and > is buried in Springfield, WV. He came to the United State when he was 5 > and lived in the Pittsburgh, PA area before moving to Springfield WV then > to Hedgesville, WV > His father - Hugh Kinkaid (the spelling as stated on his death > certificated) born 5/25, 1833 in Ireland or Scotland (of this I am not > sure). He died 6/22/1922 in Springfield and is buried there. He was > married to a Martha Adams or Adamson on December 23, 1870 in Banbrige, > Ireland . He came to the USA somewhere between 1882 and1887 to work as a > fireman who coke ovens for either making steel or brick. When the > depression hit he moved to Springfield WV to farm. > > His father is John Kinkaid born in Scotland but date is not known nor is > any other information known. > > This is about all I know. I know that John Andrew had two brothers: > Hugh(died young and is buried in Springfield) and James who was either a > teacher or a lawyer and stayed in the Washington PA area; Martha was too > ill to travel when the family left Pa to come to WV so she stayed there > was James and some other family friends. She is buried there an I have > not been able to find a record of her death or where she is buried. John > Andrew also had two sisters Maggie and Annie. Annie married a Field from > Springfield and lived there the rest of her life. > > If anyone has any information to share I would greatly appredicate it. Or > if you have any question I can clarify for you please email me. > > Thanks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead > > >> Mary- >> >> Odd. Mine came through fine; all seven Johns and one James. >> >> Where does your John fit into the Kinkead tree? >> >> Dick Kinkead 2562 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment, >> 1st Penn. Regt. >> >> >>>I subscribe to the kincaid rootweb and each of the emails in reference to >>> John Kinkead is empty (no text in the body) would you know why that >>> happened? >>> Mary Kinkead >>> married to a John Kinkead :-) >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:41 PM >>> Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment,1st >>> Penn. Regt. >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 >> 9:56 AM >> >> >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don has suggested that the list might benefit by knowing where 28835 & 1255 are in vetting their lines back to David & Winnefred. I am taking the liberty of posting a sketchy version of what has been sent to me. Deanne and Amon may want to supply more details. 28835 is vetted to Preston m Katherine Hawkins. Deanne has a preliminary vetting post but is still working on details. There is census data supporting the line. Preston's Social Security Application says he was born 2/4/1885 Sharpsburg, Bath Co. KY. His parents are listed as John and Martha Lemons Kincaid. John Kincaid b 1843 Bath Co. KY d 1920 Mayslick, Mason Co. KY m Martha Lemmons Nov 17, 1877 Harrison Co. KY. Settlement of heirs for James H. Kincaid, Owingsville, KY March 17, 1855 lists John Hawkins Guardian of William Riley, Martha Jane, John, Mary Rebecca, infant heirs of James H. Kincaid James Harvey Kincaid b 1814 Clark Co. KY d 1846 Bath Co. KY m Mary Ann Hawkins 22 Jan 1838 Bath Co. KY. John Hawkins above was her father. James H is listed in application of Rebecca Evans Kincaid for widow's pension based on her husband Robert Kincaid's service. Robert Kincaid b July 24, 1761 Alb Co. VA d Oct 20, 1844 Bath Co. KY. m Rebecca Evans. Listed in family Bible as son of John Kincaid and Elizabeth Logan. There is also a deed sequence showing that this Robert is the same one that was in Washington Co. VA and is son of John/Elizabeth. John Kincaid b Sept 14, 1736 d after 1810 prob Clark KY m 21 April 1756 Alb Co. VA, Elizabeth Logan. The deed sequence refered to above establishes that this John Kincaid was in Washington Co. VA prior to coming to KY. KY deeds establish that this John's wife was Elizabeth. John Kincaid m Elizabeth Logan is son of David and Winnefred Hobson Kincaid. The connection has been discussed a lot on list so I refer you to the archives for data. Clark and Bath Co. KY are separated from each other by Montgomery Co. ______________________ 1255 is vetted to Sherod A Kincaid and Eliza Hughes. Going back is more complicated for Amon as Jackson Co. Ala is a burned county and only sketchy records exist. Sherod is listed in the 1850 Newton Co. Ark census as 29 with wife Eliza, her sister Jane Hughs and 3 of his sons. In the 1860 census Eliza has died and Sherod had married her sister Jane and added 4 more children. Sharod was born in TN c 1820. Both Eliza and Jane were born in Alabama. All children were born in Arkansas, the eldest Jos. P b 1846. Listed above Sherod in the 1850 Arkansas census is Elizabeth Kincade age 54 b NC, widow. In her household are Joseph 20 TN, Nancy 16 Ala, Elizabeth 15 Ala, William 11 Ala. Joseph Kincaid is listed in the 1840 and 1830 Jackson Co. Ala census with members of his household matching Elizabeth's census with the addition of Sharod as male b 1820-1825. There is evidence that Joseph Kincaid of Larkinsville, Jackson Co. Ala organized a wagon train headed for Ark in 1842. There was a movement of people from Franklin Co. to Jackson Co. in the 1820's. The 1820 Franklin Co. TN census lists Joseph 16-26, wife 16-26 and 1 male under 10. Franklin Co. TN is just above Jackson Co. Ala. Next door to Joseph in 1820 is Hobson Kingcade, over 45, with his family. Hobson Kincaid m Sarah McClure about 1782 or 83 in Washington Co. VA. Amon has a time line that follows Hobson and Sarah back to Clark Co. KY where we find the Bible record listing Hobson as son of John & Elizabeth Logan. There doesn't appear to be records for Hobson after 1831 when he goes to Russell Co. VA (Russell from Scott Co. from Washington Co.) to take care of some estate details concerning his wife's inheritance. He can't be found in the 1830 census. Sue Liedtke

The same here. Alice Gedge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment, 1st Penn. Regt. >I subscribe to the kincaid rootweb and each of the emails in reference to > John Kinkead is empty (no text in the body) would you know why that > happened? > Mary Kinkead > married to a John Kinkead :-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:41 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment,1st > Penn. Regt. > > >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 > 9:56 AM > > >

I second the motion. Norman, you do good work (and have done good work) <grin> Ruth In a message dated 7/16/2008 8:25:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes: We really appreciate all the time and effort you have done over the years! If there were a Kincaid's of all spellings Ring of Honor, you would definitely be on it in my book. **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

This appeared in today's Washington Post: By Joe Holley Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, July 16, 2008; Page B05 Kathleen "Kat" Kinkade, 77, a founding member of a rural Virginia commune called Twin Oaks Community, died July 3 of complications related to bone cancer. She had been a resident of Twin Oaks, about 35 miles southeast of Charlottesville, since its beginning in 1967. Eighty-five income-sharing adults and 15 children continue the communal experiment Ms. Kinkade helped originate. Each member receives food, housing, health care and personal spending money from the community, whose income derives primarily from making high-quality rope hammocks, casual furniture, indexing books and tofu. Her involvement with communal living began when she was a 36-year-old secretary and single mother in Los Angeles and happened to read "Walden Two," a utopian fantasy by Harvard psychologist B.F. Skinner. The novel imagines a self-contained communal society of 1,000 people who solve life's problems through behavioral engineering. "I read 'Walden Two' throughout one day, breaking only to get up and pace the floor and shout, 'This is what I want!' " Ms. Kinkade told The Washington Post in 1998. She wrote Skinner, asking whether there was a real Walden Two that she could join, but got no reply. A friend pointed out a small classified ad in a magazine from a D.C. cabdriver named Wayne who was interested in launching a Walden Two community. Ms. Kinkade and her daughter moved across the country to join Wayne's group house. Wayne went his own way, and Ms. Kinkade married another boarder in the house. The couple eventually found a fellow "Walden Two" enthusiast who provided seed money to lease a small tobacco farm southeast of Charlottesville. She, her husband and her daughter were among the eight Twin Oaks founders. Unlike thousands of other communes that sprang up in the 1960s only to succumb to the perplexities of shared living, Twin Oaks gradually began to flourish, despite early hardship and dissension. It grew to almost a hundred communards, became a self-sustaining land trust of 450 efficiently managed acres and began to thrive financially when it signed a long-term contract with Pier 1 for its hammocks. Although she was involved in founding two other income-sharing communities -- in Missouri and Virginia -- she told The Post in 1998 that communal life had not measured up to her expectations. "My mother was disappointed that Twin Oaks did not turn out to be the model for what the rest of our society would be," said her daughter, Dr. Josie Kinkade of Louisa, Va. "When she found out that it was really just a nice place for some middle-class people to live, she was disappointed." Kinkade said she reminded her mother that she had created a "university of life," and she seemed satisfied with that assessment. Ms. Kinkade was born in Seattle, grew up poor during the Depression and became the first person in her working-class family to go to college, when she attended the University of Washington for a year. She dropped out to marry an Army sergeant. When the marriage dissolved, she took her 4-year-old daughter to live in Mexico City, where she taught English to first-graders at a private school. She returned to the United States in 1960, got a job as a secretary and became a folk dancer. She encountered "Walden Two" as an assignment for a class she was taking during night school. Although the novel was the inspiration for her communal vision, Twin Oaks, as it evolved, bore little resemblance to Skinner's utopian fantasy. She quickly discovered communal living was devilishly difficult. "Freeloading hippies began to turn up," reporter Tamara Jones noted in a 1998 Washington Post magazine story. "Personality clashes made living cooperatively a constant challenge." She found herself swamped with administrative chores and complaints that she was too authoritarian. Eventually, the community brought in facilitators to mediate the power struggle, and their recommendations resulted in more democratic governance. Although Ms. Kinkade persevered, the challenge never got easier. "She left Twin Oaks once, 'with a man, but he wasn't mine,' " she once told The Post, "and she started a new commune that also frustrated and disappointed her. She ventured into the outside world for a while, then surprised herself by coming back." She also got involved in sacred harp music through the nearby Yanceyville Church, where, as an atheist, she sang in the choir because she loved the harmonious, shape-note singing of the sacred harp tradition. At 70, she moved into a tiny house in nearby Mineral (the first house she had ever owned) and enjoyed planting flowers and rescuing abandoned kittens. When she became too weak to live alone, Twin Oaks took her back in and community members tended to her needs until her death. Ms. Kinkade's marriages to Donald Logsdon and George Griebe ended in divorce. In addition to her daughter, from her first marriage, survivors include a granddaughter. **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

Dear Kinkead Listers, This John Kinkead could be my John Kinkead, son of George.  But I am not sure. He is in the same company as Corp. Andrew Kinkead, son of George.  And his trail follows the direction of my John in his journey to Union Township, Erie County, PA.  He also assigns his donation land to Isaac Craig.  The John Kincaid cited in the Notes and Queries was born in Cumberland County, PA, was about 18 years old, and enlisted for 18 months which I took to mean the Pennsylvania Continent Line as an 18 months man.  I still don't understand completely the enlistment between militia and Continental line.  Some in the Continental Line enlisted for the duration, others for 7 months and others for 18 months.  My John was definitely in the Cumberland County, PA Militia.  I think it's him with his brother Andrew in Capt. William Wilson's Company.  And his note to the powers that be about his Donation land sounds like my line. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1780 John Kinkead, [000024] private, in Capt. William Wilson’s Company, 1st Penn. Regiment, commanded         by Col. James Chambers, from Sept.-Oct. 1780. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 23, p.364. 1780 Andrew Kinkead, Corp. Capt. William Wilson’s Company, 1st Regiment Pennsylvania in the service of         the United States Commanded by Col. James Chambers for months of September and October, 1780.          Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 23, p. 364. 1780 John Kenkead, private, engaged, June 28th, expires, January 15th 1781, Muster Roll of Capt. William             Wilson’s Company, 1st Regiment, Pennsylvania Continental Line in the service of the United States of         America, commanded by Col. James Chambers for months of Sept. & October 1780.  Pennsylvania             Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 848. 1780 John Kinkead, [000024] private, discharged from Capt. William Wilson’s Company, a seven month man         from 1780, Joseph Howell, Jr., assistant Commisary of accounts Pay Office Philadelphia, PA May 17,         1785, to John Nichelson, Esq.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 852. 1781 John Kinkead, [000024] private, Capt. William Wilson’s Company, 1st Penn. Regiment from the                     enlistment of 1780, discharged,  January 15, 1781. Pennsylvania Archives, s. v. p. 1781 John Kinkaid, [000024] private, in Col. Craig’s detachment, 1st Penn. Regiment Continental Line, in             Jackson’s Company, 1st Regiment, 1781,  transferred to Zigler’s Company, 1782. Pennsylvania                     Archives, s. 5, v. 2, p. 753. 1781 John Kinkead, inlisted for Class No. 131 for 18 mo. From the 1st of July, 1781, aged about 18 yrs., 5             feet 8 inches high, sandy col'd hair, fair complexion, born in Cumberland county, a laborer. 30th August,         1781.  Notes and Queries edited by William Henry Egle, 1900, p. 200. 1785 John Kinkead, Capt. William Wilson, 1st Regiment, 7 months man, discharged, return of men enlisted         for seven months in the Penn.Line, Pay Office, Philadelphia, 17 May 1785.  Active Duty Line.  Record         Proves Active Duty.  Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File 1785 John Kinkead.  In pursuance of an act of General Assembly of the State of Pennsylvania passed the             24th of February one thousand seven hundred eighty five, entitled an Act “for directing the Mode of                 distributing the Donation Lands promised to the troops by this Commonwealth and by order of the                 surveyor general, with the Approbation of the Honorable the Executive Council, I have surveyed on the             23rd day of September one thousand seven hundred eighty five, the above described tract of 200 acres         of land, and allowance for Roads & No. 437, situate in District No. III, on the west side of the Allegheny         River in the County of Westmoreland. G.E. Evans, Deputy Surveyor.  To John Lukens, Esq.. Sur. Gen.          This part attached drawn 7th Aug. 1805 by Isaac Craig in right of John Kinkead.  Pennsylvania State             Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. C-97, p. 205. 1787 John Kincaid, New Levies Pennsylvania, received 45 pounds per certificate #14.620 on June 9, 1787.             Record proves active duty. Pennsylvania  State Archives Online Card File 1790 John Kincaid, late of the New Levies Pennsylvania received 5 pounds, 17 shillings, 4 pence per                     certificate #17129 on August 21, 1790.  Record proves active duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online         Card File 1790 John Kincaid, late of the New Levies Pennsylania received 39 pounds, 2 shillings, 8 pence per                     certificate #17130 on August 21, 1790.  Record proves active duty.  Pennsylvania State Archives Online         Card File 1791 John Cincaid, late of the New Levies Pennsylvania, received 17 pounds, 10 shillings on May 26, 1791 for         service in 1780. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 4, p. 19. 1805 John Kinkead to Wm. Finch?, June 25th 1805          Sir, I have seen papers thrown into the ? from ? in office ?? without regard to honoring, once more I             have to remind you that I have been neglected by a former Controller Gen’l.  I am not to be the looser by         that-one comfort I ? ? I shall for my wrights if I do not immediately obtain it.  ? from you for advice.  John         Kinkead.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Donation Claimant Papers, 1785-1810, KIs, p. 72. 1805 John Kinkead, patented 200 acres of Donation Land, tract 437, 3rd District, Pennsylvania, patent, P57,         p. 232, survey C-97, p. 205.          In pursuance of an act of General Assembly of the State of Pennsylvania passed the 24th of February         one thousand seven hundred eighty five, entitled an Act “for directing the Mode of distributing the                 Donation Lands promised to the troops by this Commonwealth and by order of the surveyor general,             with the Approbation of the Honorable the Executive Council, I have surveyed on the 23rd day of                     September one thousand seven hundred eighty five, the above described tract of 200 acres of land,          and allowance for Roads & No. 437, situate in District No. III, on the west side of the Allegheny River in         the County of Westmoreland. G.E. Evans, Deputy Surveyor.  To John Lukens, Esq. Sur. Gen.  This part         attached drawn 7th Aug. 1805 by Isaac Craig in right of John Kinkead.  Pennsylvania State Archive, RG-        17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912 Vol. C-97, p. 205. 1805 John Kinkead, (Isaac Craig assigned), 200 acres, August 10, 1805, District 3, No. 437, Griffith Evans,         Surveyor, Patent Vol. P, No. 57, p. 232, Copied Survey, C-97, p. 205.  RG-17, Records of the Land             Office,DONATION LAND REGISTER: NUMERIC TRACT LISTING, [ca.1794]. p. 28. 1805 John Kinkead patented Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grant, Dist. 3, No. 437, August 10, 1805, 200         acres in Donation District 3 in Mercer County, PA. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 7, p. 698.

Dear Kincaid-listers, I have looked into the several John Kinkeads of the Pennsylvania Continental Line. John Kinkead, formerly of Lancaster County, PA was a carpenter and served to help build Fort McIntosh. He was in the Washington County, PA Militia and not the Penn. Continental Line.  John Kinkead, artificer, was also a carpenter in the Artillery & Artificer Corps attached to Col. Isaac Craig's Detachment, 1st Penn. Cont. Line at Fort Pitt at the end of the war.  He had a cousin in William Wilson's Co.., 1st Penn. Regt. is timeline will follow in a succeeding email.  I believe that this John Kinkead may be the son of Andrew Kinkead, carpenter, of York County, later of Carlisle and Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1779 John Kinkade, [000035] private, in Capt. Nathaniel Irish’s Company, Penn. Artillery Artificers, October 8,         1779.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 3, p. 1101. 1779 John Kinkade, [000035] matross of Artillery, enlisted October 8, 1779 to serve 3 years, served first with         Capt. Irish, later with Capt. Wylie. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 3, p. 1102. 1780 John Kinkade, [000035] private, in Capt. Nathaniel Irish’s Company, Penn. Artillery Artificers in service         April 10, 1780. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 3, pp. 1101, 1103. 1782 John Kinkead, [000035] artificer, on roll of Major Isaac Craig’s Detachment, 4th Penn. Regiment for             Feb.1782, December 1782, & March 1783, stationed at Fort Pitt. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 3, p.             1059. 1782 John Kincaid, [000035] matross, Artillery Artificers received per certificate #701 20 pounds, 11 pence on         April 18, 1782. Record proves active service between January 1, 1777 and August 1, 1780.                         Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File 1782 John Kincaid, [000035] private, carpenter, on return of Capt. Thomas Wylie’s Company, Penn. Corps of         Artillery & Artificers stationed at Fort Pitt, November 1, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 3, p. 1096;         Record proves active duty. Pennsylvania State Archives  Online Card File 1783 John Kinkead, [000035] matross of artillery, received 20 pounds.0.11 principal, 1 pound.4.0 interest to         be paid out as of April 10, 1782, statement of account as of August 2, 1783.  Pennsylvania Colonial             Records, v. 13, p. 634. 1783 John Kincaid, [000035] matros of Penn. Artillery, Continental Line, on list of soldiers who received                 depreciation pay as per cancelled certificate. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 189. 1783 John Kincaid [000035] on Misc. List of Artillery Arificers. PA, s. 5, v. 3, p. 1126. 1799 John Kincaid [000035]  Carlisle, July 30, 1799          I certify to whom it may concern that the bearer John Kincaid was enlisted for the War in the Artillery             and Artificer Regiment and was of the Pennsylvania quota of that Regiment—I discharged him as such         at Fort Pitt in the year 1783 which he says he lost, but I have yet a perfect recollection of him, he was         one of a Detachment of that Regiment, who served under my immediate orders during          my command in the western Country.  He was then a usefull and well-behaved man—he is clearly                 entitled to all the entitlements granted by the State to Officers and Soldiers of the Pennsylvania Line,             which have not already been paid him. Wm. Irvine, formerly Brig. General.  Pennsylvania State Archives,         RG-17, Donation Claimant Papers, 1785-1810, KIs, p. 79. 1799 John Kincaid.  I John Kincaid late a soldier in the Pennsylvania line, in the Artillery & Artificer Regiment,         commanded by Gen. Wm. Irvine, do hereby make at the Office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth         of Pennsylvania, for the tract of Donation to which I am entitled, in consequence of my service in the             army aforesaid.  Witness my hand and seal this 2nd day of August A.D. 1799.  John Kinkead, witness         present, W. Hastings.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Donation Claimant Papers,         1785-1810, KIs, p. 72. 1799 John Kincaid, application for 200 acres of Donation Land.  August 2, 1799.           W. Edward McGauran of Carlisle having advanced Kincaid some money to relieve                                     his present necessities, should have an opportunity of being present when the patent issues-he has             also a power of attorney.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Donation Claimant Papers, 1785-1810,         KIs, p. 72. 1800 John Kincade.  July 1st, 1800.          Sir,  I have been applied to by a John Kincade who stated that he called on you for his donation land             from Penn. as a private in the Penn. Line in the Revolutionary War-I had disposed of my right to all                     those claims I made-to the Penn. Population Company the paper were in the hands of Gentlemen in         this city who hold them in trust for the company.  I referred the person who applied to me          as above to him, he ? a person with the paper his claim, and upon inspection I find it appears to have         been sold by Kincade in S.? Carolina to one John Brown who sold it to one Erdmen who sold it to me.          He ? ? this went not to him but his cousin of the name of John Kincade-who had been an 18 months             man & who was discharged with him at the end of the war.  If so he must have enlisted after his 18                 months expired & in this case each of them was entitled to donation land and in that case there is no             interference.          Yours truly, W. Nicholson.  James Trimble S.G.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Donation                 Claimant Papers, 1785-1810, KIs, p. 78. 1801 John Kincade, [000024] June 19th, 1801,           John Kincade was returned for donation land, in the first report made to the Supreme Executive                     Council, by the late Comptroller General Mr. Nicholson, under the Act of Assembly of the 24th of                 March 1785, but having been late in his Application, no number has been drawn against his name                 owing to the deficiency of Land to satisfy all the claimants; his application is however within the                     limitation of a former act of assembly.               James Trimble          Extracts from the Book of Entries of Applications made for donation land—1795 by John Nicholson in—        October right of John Kincade} John Kincade applies himself on the 2nd of August 1799-and says he             has never transferred his right to any person.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Donation Claimant         Papers, 1785-1810, KIs, p. 73. 1801 John Kinkaid [000024] to Irwin, Cumberland County, PA, June 22, 1801,          I do now hereby revoke all powers of attorney and all other writings whatsoever that I have given and I             now desire and request that you will deliver my Patent for Donation Lands to no person but myself,                 whatever protestations they may have.  Edward Megaurian to whom I have given the power for recovering         my land I have no right to trust, this may answer all the purposes of a ? of Law, upon you well know             character for justice & depend and hope to see you in the course of a few days, meantime          I am ? with due respect  yours John Kinkaid.          Witnesses: Martha Skinner, Polly Skinner, I request you to file there with the ? of papers I delivered to         you.   Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Donation Claimant Papers, 1785-1810, KIs, p. 72. 1802 John Kinkead, [000024] private, in the late Army of the United States, Pennsylvania Line, in the name         and authority of the Commonwealth of Penn., Thomas McKean, Governor of the said Commonwealth,             Know Ye that in consideration of services rendered by John Kinkead, there is    granted a certain tract         of land called “Mount Resolution” #297 situate in Donation District #2, west of the Allegheny River, now         Butler County, PA, September 8, 1802.  Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 11-L, p. 257. 1803 John Kinkead [000024] of Butler County, PA sold to Isaac Craig of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, PA             200 acres for $152.00 a tract of land #297 in Donation District #2, west of the Allegheny River, now                 Butler County, PA, January 5, 1803. Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 11-L, p. 258. Butler County, PA 1810 J. Kinkade, [000024] Donegal Township, Butler County, PA, 1 male over 45, 3 males 10-15, 1 female             under 10, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 123. 1814 John Kincaid, [000024] Butler County, PA, died November 4, 1814, served in the 1st Infantry Regiment         in the Revolutionary War, heirs: Henry Kincaid, Jane Kincaid, & John Kincaid.  Revolutionary War                 Pension Abstracts 1819 John Kinkaid, [000024] , estate,  John McKinness appointed guardian of Jane Kinkaid, [000024] minor,         No. 131, January 1819, Vol. 1, p. 52, Orphans Court Index, Butler County, PA, Pennsylvania State             Archives. 1819 John Kinkaid, [000024] , estate,  John McKinness appointed guardian of John Kinkaid, [000024] minor,         No. 131, January 1819, Vol. 1, p. 52, Orphans Court Index, Butler County, PA, Pennsylvania State         Archives. Butler County, PA 1840 Henry Kinkade, [000024] Muddy Creek Township, Butler County, PA. USFC, 034. 1850 Henry Kinkead, [000024] age 40, born PA, black smith, Butler County, PA at household of Joseph Sproul. USFC. 1850 William Kinkead, [000024] age 8, born PA, son of Henry Kinkead, Butler County, PA at household of Joseph Sproul. USFC..

Dear Kincaid-listers, I have also found more on James Kinkead, Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA.  I am now pretty sure that Samuel Kinkead (died 1840) of Butler County, PA is the son of James Kinkead of Westmoreland County, PA.  The proximity of John Kinkead, formerly of Lancaster County, PA and James Kinkead, Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA to the John and James Kinkead of Smith Township, Washington County, PA also make me believe that they are related to them.  This is the territory of the Kincaids from the Ben Dixon book.  I now have enough circumstancial evidence to place them within the Sadsbury, West Caln, East Caln Townships, Chester County, PA Kincaid family cluster.  I still haven't found where or when James Kinkead, Recorder died, but Armstrong County, PA might be the place to look. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1742 James Kinkead [000013] born to John Kinkead [37382] & wife, Mary in Sadsbury Township, Chester             County, PA. Extrapolation. 1762 Charles Kinkead, [000019] James Kinkead, [000013] & Samuel Kinkead [119921] at the wedding of             James Sinkler &  Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly Meeting, Chester County, PA, October 21,             1762.  Quaker Records of Bradford Monthly Meeting. Chester County Archives & Records Service,                 West Chester, PA 1765 James Kinkead, [000013] freeman, taxed in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, Pennsylvania                     Archives. Pennsylvania  Archives, s. 3, v. 11, p.81. 1766 James Kinkead, [000013] freeman, taxed in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Pennsylvania             Archives, s. 3, v. 11, p. 205. 1767 James Kinkead, [000013] freeman, taxed in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Pennsylvania             Archives, s. 3, v. 11, p. 382. 1768 James Kinkead, [000013] freeman, taxed in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Pennsylvania             Archives, s. 3, v. 11, p. 414. 1768 James Kinkead, [000013] married Mary Simrall in Chester County, PA sometime in 1768. Frances                 Simrall Riker, Book of Simrall. 1769 James Kinkade [000013] taxed in West Nantmeal Township, Chester County, PA for 162 acres, 2                 horses, 6 sheep, 3 cows. 1771 James Kinkeade [000013] taxed in West Nantmeal Township, Chester County, PA for 100  acres, 2             horses, 3 cows, 10 sheep. 1771 James Kinkead, [000013] West Nanteal Township, Chester County, PA received a tax discount of 3             pounds for his service, May 29, 1771. Chester County Archives & Records Service, West Chester, PA,         Chester County Tax Discount List, 1756-1778, p. 224. 1771 John Kinkead, Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Will written, November 29, 1770, proved Nov.         29, 1771.         Item, I give & bequeath to my well beloved son James fifty pounds in cash to him or heirs. All which             legacies I do hereby order my beloved son Charles to pay in the following order, viz: at the expiration of         one whole year after my decease to John Sumrall & Thomas Killpatrick the above bequeathed twelve             pounds to each of them & 25 pounds to my son James being the one half of his share. And at         the end of two years after my death to pay to my said son James his remaining 25 pounds in full of his         legacy, and to my son Samuel the 20 pounds as above bequeathed to him. 1773 James Kinkead [000013] taxed in Hempfield Township, Bedford County, PA at 2.0. Pennsylvania                 Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 28. 1773 James Kinkead [000013] brother-in-law, appointed executor of John Sumrall’s will, of Westmoreland             County, PA,  will written, Feb. 24, 1773, proved, April 8, 1773. Chester County Historical Society, West         Chester, PA, Kincaid file. 1773 James Kincaid, [000013] foreman of jury for Grand Inquest at Robert Hannan, Esquire’s home in                 Westmoreland County, PA on July 6, 1773, Court of the Quarter Sessions.  Annals of SouthWestern             Pennyslvania, Vol 2, p. 6.  1773 James Kinkead [000013] appointed Coroner of Westmoreland County, PA, October 19, 1773.          Pennsylvania Colonial Records, v.10, p. 106. 1773 James Kinkead [000013] bought from David Scott of Shirtees Creek, 125 acres lying on the waters of             Roberson Run for 37 pounds on November 29, 1773. Westmoreland County, PA Deed Book A, p. 330. 1774 James Kinkead [000013] appointed Coroner of Westmoreland County, PA, October 13, 1774.          Pennsylvania Colonial Records, v.10, p. 212. 1777 James Kinkead, [000013] Recorder, Westmoreland County, PA, 1777-1779, Pennsylvania Archives, s.         2, v. 3, p. 33. 1777 James Kinkead, [000013] recorder, Westmoreland County, PA, recorded the names of 94 persons who         took the Oath of Allegiance from Sept. 11, 1777-January 5, 1778.  Pennsylvania Archives, s.. 2, v. 3, p.         31-33. 1781 James Kinkead [000013] recommended to hold an office in Westmoreland County, PA, December 24,         1781.  Pennsylvania Colonial Records, v. 13, p. 158. 1783 James Kinkead [000013] taxed in South Huntington Township, Westmoreland County, PA for 200                 acres, 3 horses, 1 cow, 2 sheep.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 413. 1783 James Kinkead [000013] taxed in Pitt Township, Westmoreland County, PA. Pennsylvania Archives, s.         3, v. 22, p. 399. 1783 James Kinkead [000013] of Port Royal, Westmoreland County, PA, bought from James McGoldrick of         Pittsburgh, a corner lot on the streets Alligania St. & Beer House St. & joining John Erwins lot in the             town of Pittsburgh, Westmoreland County, PA for 100 pounds on April 20, 1783. Westmoreland County,         PA, Deed Book A, p. 337. 1783 James Kinkead [000013] of Westmoreland County, PA sold 300 acres in Armstrong Township,                     Westmoreland County, PA for 30 pounds to Robert McIntire of York County, PA on the waters of                 Blacklick Creek adjoining lands of Samuel Stone & Daniel Minemy, November 14, 1783.  Westmoreland         County, PA, Deed Book A, p. 355. 1785 James Kinkead, [000013] Esq. taxed in South Huntington Township, Westmoreland County, PA.                 Supply Tax 1785 John Kinkead [000013] taxed in South Huntington Township, Westmoreland County, PA. Supply Tax. 1786 James Kinkead [000013] taxed in South District, Huntington Township, Westmoreland County, PA at             3.4. Tax Lists  Westmoreland County, PA 1786-1810; Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 500. 1786 John Kinkead (S.M.) [000013] taxed in South District, Huntington Township, Westmoreland County, PA         at 10.0. Tax Lists Westmoreland County, PA 1786-1810; Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 504. 1786 James Kincaid [000013] of Westmoreland County, PA appointed by George Ritchmond of Salisbury             Township, Chester County, PA his lawful attorney to enter into all that messuage or plantation or parcel         of land situate on the east side of the river Youghagana in Bedford County, 301 ½ acres, called                     Richmonds Hall..  March 3, 1786.  Westmoreland County, PA, Deed Book A, p. 427.         Chester County Historical Society, Kincaid file. 1788 James Kinkead [000013] v. John Stone, on Caveat.           There being no Draughts returned of the land in dispute, this matter is postponed to the first Monday in         September next in order that the Deputy Surveyor may return a Plott of the land claimed by both parties         and how they interfere.  Special meeting at the Council Chamber, March 29, 1788.  Pennsylvania                 Archives, s. 3, v. 1, p. 588. 1789 James Kinkaid [000013] warranted 200 acres in Washington County, PA, March 3, 1789. Pennsylvania         Archives, s. 3, v. 26, p. 574:RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957,             Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 57. 1789 James Kinkaid. [000013] A draught of a survey called “Turkey Green” situate in the waters of Raccoon         Creek [Smith Township] in Washington County containing 234 acres, 3 quarters, 25 perches and the             usual allowance for roads & executed Apl ye 18th 1789 in pursuance of a warrant granted to James             Kinkaid for 200 acres dated March ye 3d 1789.  Presley Nevill, Mattw. Ritchie, D.S. Jno. Lukens,                 Esqu’r. S.G.  Adjacent land owners: Hugh Pugh, John Kinkaid, McCullough, Wm. McConnell, John             Stone, Thomas Whitacre.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED             SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. D-38, p. 203. 1789 James Kinkead [000013] v. John Stone.  On Caveat.           On hearing Messrs.  Wright and Allison in behalf of the said parties, It is ordered that the Deputy             Surveyor with James Edg___ and James Allison, Esquire’s shall make the Surveys of the parties as agreeable to the conditional lines as my be, and return a Draught to the Board again the first Monday in March next, to which time this Dispute is postponed. Meeting at the Surveyor General’s Office, Sept. 7, 1789.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 1, p. 661. 1790 James Kincard, [000013] Mount Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County, PA, 1 male over 16, 2 male         under 16, 4 females.  USFC, p. 264. 1790 Janey Kinkead, [000013] North Huntingdon Township, Westmoreland County, PA, 1 male over 16, 1             male under 16, 3 females.  USFC, p. 264. 1790 Samuel Kinkead, [000013] Washington Township, Westmoreland County, PA, 2 males over 16. USFC,         p. 268. 1790 Kinkead [000013] v. Stone.  This case is postponed to the first Monday in September next in order that         the Order of a former Board my be executed.  Meeting at the Surveyor General’s March 2, 1790.                  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 1, p. 685. 1790 Kinkead [000013] v. Stone..  Report of the Referrees is confirmed and Stone allowed a Patent.  Special meeting at the Surveyor General’s, December 16, 1790.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 1, p. 723. This tract of land was called “Turkey Green” on Raccoon Creek, [Smith Township] Washington County, PA, warranted by John Stone, Feb. 22, 1786, Patent issued, Sept. 29, 1791.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with S, p. 100. 1793 James Kinkeade [000013] had a survey of 440 acres with the allowance of six per cent on November 21,         1793 by virtue of his improvement began on Nov. 14, 1793, situate in district No. 8 N.W. of the                     Allegheny River on the east side of Buffaloe Creek on the waters of the Allegheny River to Daniel                 Brodhead, Esqu.  S.G.  Stephen Gapen D.S.  I do hereby certify that there is no warrant entered in my         office for the above described tract of land.  Stephen Gapen.  D.S.  Adjacent landowners: Benjamin             Jack, John Craig, and sold land. Patented by Hugh Y. Brady, March 9, 1831, Armstrong County, PA.          Pennsylvania Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. C-108,         p. 14. 1793 Samuel Kinkad [000013] on muster roll of Capt. Jeremiah Murry’s Company, Westmoreland County, PA         Militia, pay commenced October 11, 1793, muster roll reported December 13, 1793.  Pennsylvania                 Archives, s. 6, v. 5, p. 710. 1793 Samuel Kinkead, [000013]  private, on pay roll of Capt. Jeremiah Murry’s Company, Westmoreland             County, PA Militia from October 11-December 7, 1793, paid $11.40, pay roll dated, January 24, 1794.         Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, pp. 708, 739, 741, 768. 1794 Samuel Kinkead [000013] warranted 400 acres in Allegheny County, PA, February 28, 1794, patentee,         John Foster, 400 acres, February 7, 1820, in Armstrong County, PA. Pennsylvania State Archives,             Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957,         Allegheny County, north and west of the Ohio River, Surnames beginning with K, p. 69. 1794 Samuel Kinkead [000013] in pursuance of a warrant dated 28th Feb. 1794 there was a survey for                 Samuel Kinkead the above described tract of land containing four hundred acres & 160 perches with an         allowance proportioned to six per cent, situate on the north side of the Allegheny River in Allegheny             County, surveyed Oct. 8, 1794.  John Moore D.S. To Daniel Brodhead, Esqu.  Adjacent land owners:             William Denniston, Robert Patrick, Adam Maxwell, Archibald Denniston. Surveyor General of                         Pennsylvania.  Pennsylvania State Archives, Surveys, Vol. A-85, p. 79. 1794 Samuel Kinkaid.  [000013] Surveyed the 26th day of August 1794 for Samuel Kinkaid, 385 acres and 39         perches of land with the allowance of six per cent &c by virtue of his improvement began 1st day of             August 1794 situate Dist. No. 8 N.W. of the Allegheny River lying on a branch of Bever Run.  Stephen         Gapen D.S.  To Daniel Brodhead, Esq’r. S.G.  Adjacent land owners: John Craig, corner, Robert Beaty,         James Nickles, corner, Jacob Bauser, Joseph Baldridge, corner, Robert Williby, William Williby, corner,         Patrick Harvey.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS,         1681-1912, Vol. C-187, p. 58. 1794 Samuel Kinkaid, [000013] private, served from June 4 to August 13, in the rifle company, 2nd Battalion,         3rd Regiment, Westmoreland County, PA Militia, discharged with honor, August 13, 1794. Signed:                 Capt. J. Elliot. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 5, p. 809. 1796 James Kinkade [000013] warranted 440 acres in Allegheny County, PA, August 25, 1796, patented 440         acres, March 9, 1831, patentee, Hugh Y. Brady, in Armstrong County, PA.  Pennsylvania State                     Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Allegheny County,         north and west of the Ohio River, Surnames beginning with K, p. 69. 1796 John Kinkead [000013] born to Samuel Kinkead [000013] & wife, Eleanor Pillow, later of Butler County,         PA. John Kinkead, [000013] age 57, died on January 23, 1853 in Fairview Township, Butler County, PA.         Butler County, PA 1800 Samuel Kinkead, [000013] Buffaloe Township, Butler County, PA, 1 male 16-26, 3 males to 10, 1                 female 16-26.  USFC, 120:02. Butler County, PA 1820 Samuel Kinkead, [000013] Esq., Donegal Township, Butler County, PA, 1 male over 45, 3 males 16-26,         1 female over 45, 1 female 16-26.  USFC, p. 142.

Stand by, there is more to come. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:14:11 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, Jr Norman, You did some good detective work on this post on John Kinkead, Jr! We really appreciate all the time and effort you have done over the years! If there were a Kincaid's of all spellings Ring of Honor, you would definitely be on it in my book. Don W. Kincaid To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Norman, You did some good detective work on this post on John Kinkead, Jr! We really appreciate all the time and effort you have done over the years! If there were a Kincaid's of all spellings Ring of Honor, you would definitely be on it in my book. Don W. Kincaid

Dear Kincaid-listers, with all of this time on my hands I have had the opportunity to make some discoveries             and to make some determinations concerning some mysterious Kincaids in Pennsylvania.         First is John Kinkead, Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, PA, the first citation to whom follows. I now believe that this John Kinkead is the brother of Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, York County, PA, who died in 1779.  Samuel mentioned his property on Petters Creek and that is where John Kinkead ends up. And his sister Mary Kinkead is the Mary Kinkead of Bedford County, PA.  He is therefore connected to Michael Kinkead of Hamilton Bann's Township, York County, PA.  And is therefore connected to the Kincaids of Sadsbury and West Caln Townships, Chester County, PA.  It is strange that a James Kincaid & a John Kincaid are taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA both before and after the 1790 Census, but they are no where to be found in the Washington County, PA ennumeration; I went through it column by column and they are not there.  You can follow John Kinkead Jr. by searching on [000003] Be advised I tried the plain text deal.  We'll see how it looks. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1769       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, applied for a warrant to take up                         300 acres in  Washington County, PA (Cumberland County, PA in 1769) of new purchase lands,                 now in Allegheny County, PA, dated, June 27, 1769, application #3562, New Purchase, warrant                     #25, patentee, John Douglas, Nov. 10, 1784, name of tract, Bucks Forest. Pennsylvania State                     Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-1 to P-19), 1781-                    1794, P. No. 3, July 24, 1784-Sept, 19, 1785. 1779       Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will written March 26, 1776, proved             April 30, 1779. Last Will & Testament of Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May             12, 1779                          In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health of body and of                 sound memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one                             thousand seven hundred and seventy six, make and publish this my last will and testament.  In                     manner following that is to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land                         where it may not hurt the place but most convenient for both places.  Next, I give to my sister                     Mary [000004] one hundred acres of any place.  Next I give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid,                             [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, [000004] one hundred acres of my land near Pittsburgh  on                         Petters Creek.  Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my chattels and goods he                    has now in his possesion.  And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] to be                 my whole executor of this my last will and testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this                 my will contained and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my last                 will and testament set my hand and seal the day and year above mentioned.                          Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us.               Samuel Kinkaid [000004]             Hugh Artens             John Shultz               York County                            Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting letters of                                 administration in and for the County of York in the Commonwealth of  Pennsylvania                                     personally came Hugh Artens and John Shultz the two subscribing witnesses to the                                     foregoing instrument of writing and on their solemn oaths in the common form of law do                                 severally and respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when                         the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written instrument of writing,                         but do not particularly recollect his signing or sealing or publishing the same.  But he, the                             said Samuel Kinkead being then engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they                                 effectively understood it to be his last will and testament, which he then made before he                             would march.  That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are respectively of the said                             deponents own hand writing and that they respectively are fully assured that they                         would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had seen the same                             signed, sealed and published, the further that the said Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that                         time of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding to the best of their                                         knowledge and belief, and farther that they did sign their names                         there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other.               Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779   Hugh Artens John Shultz Arch McClean Reg. Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives   1778       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. Minton, May 1, 1778, under Colonel                 Beeler to erect Fort McIntosh to serve six months.  War Department Pension Application of John                 Kincaid, S. 22,345 1779       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. Zadoch Wright, April 1,                                     1779,  marched to Fort St. Michael in  Virginia, to serve six months.  War Department Pension                     Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 1780       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. James Mitchell April 1, 1780,                             marched to James’ Fort, Virginia, to serve six months.  War Department Pension Application of                     John Kincaid, S. 22,345.   Washington County, PA   1781       John Kinkaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA for 380 acres, 2 horses,             2 cows, 2 sheep at 254.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 758. 1781    John Kincade taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA  for 200 acres, 1 horse, 1 cow, 3                 sheep at 52.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 774. 1781    Robert Kinkaid taxed as a single man in Cecil Township, Washington County, PA, no assessment.              Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 720.   Washington County Militia   1781       James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia,                     1781-1783.  Inactive Duty Militia.  Record Does Not Prove Active Duty.  Pennsylvania State                         Archives Online Card File 1781       James Kinkaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s Company of Foot, 4th Battalion,                             Washington County, PA Militia,  commanded by Col. John Marshal, Sept. 18, 1781.                                  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 131.. 1781       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. Cunningham, April 1, 1781, marched                 to McKeesport, Pa., to serve seven months.   War Department Pension Application of John                         Kincaid, S. 22,345 1781       John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, 1781-                1783.  Inactive Duty Militia.   Record Does Not Prove Active Duty..  Pennsylvania State Archives                     Online Card File 1781       John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of Militia, 2nd Battalion,                                 Washington County, PA Militia,  Arrangement of Militia, 1781-1782.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6,                 vol. 2, p. 28. 1782       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., Lancaster County, PA sold land on Chartiers Creek, Petters Township,                 Washington County, PA to John Douglas, Washington County, PA, March 5, 1782. Washington                 County Court House, Washington, PA.                   See:John Douglas.  The above is a draught of a tract of land situate in Petters Township,                             Washington County, PA.  Surveyed January 12th 1785, in pursuance of a warrant granted to John                 Douglas, Esq’r. dated Nov. 5, 1784, called John Douglass’s Delight, containing 330 acres with 6                 percent allowance for roads.  David Redick D.S.  John Lukens, Esq.  Adjacent land owners:                 John Douglass’s other land.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office,                     COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. A-75, p. 11.   Washington County, PA Militia   1782       James Kinhead, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Renkon’s Company, 4th Battalion, Washington                 County, PA Militia,   A return of the 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th Classes, ordered to rendevous May 14th,                 1782.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 143. 1782       James Cankaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s return of the 4th and 5th Class, 4th                 Battalion, Washington  County, PA Militia, Sept. 4, 1782.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 150. 1782       John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll, commanded by Col. John Marshal,             4th  Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. 1782       James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll commanded by Col. John                             Marshal, 4th  Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia..  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. 1782       John Kincaid [000003] in 7th Class on roll of Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of Washington County,                 PA Militia, 1782.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 28. 1782       John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company, 2nd Battalion,                             Washington County, PA Militia,  A return of 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze,                 June 14th 1782.  Given Under my hand this 19th day June 1782.  Zadok Wright, Capt.                                  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 53, 256. 1782       John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt.. Zadok Wright’s Company, 2nd Battalion,                             Washington County, PA Militia,   A return of 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to                                         rendevouze,  September 15th, 1782.  Given Under my hand this 23rd day                 September 1782.  Zadok Wright, Capt.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 73. 1782       Jacob Beam.  June 14th 1782, this is to certify that Jacob Beam served in my company as a                         soldier commencing May 16th Ending June 14th certified by me.  Zadok Wright.  Pennsylvania                     Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 42, 256. 1782       John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, 2nd Company, 7th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia,                         January 8, 1782. Record does not prove active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File   Washington County, PA Militia   1783       John Kincaid, [000003] private, on list of soldiers of the Revolution who received pay for services for             Washington County, PA.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 715. 1783       John Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA Militia who received depreciation             pay.    Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 407. 1783       Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA Militia who received                                 depreciation pay.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 407. 1783       Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA Militia who received                             depreciation pay.    Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 407.   Washington County, PA   1784       John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA                 Tax Lists. 1784       John Kincaid taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax                         Lists. 1784       Robert Kinkaid, [44937] freeman, taxed in Cecil Township, Washington County, PA. Washington                     County, PA Tax Lists. 1784       Robert Kinkade [4588] married Mary Bowman in Washington County, PA on December 2, 1784.                  Pension Application of   Mary (Bowman) Kinkade, Hardin County, KY.   1784       John Kincaid, [000003] Washington County, PA Militia received 3 pounds 17 shillings per certificate             #2171 on November 15, 1784. Record proves active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card             File   Washington County, PA   1785       John Kinkaid taxed in Dickinson Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax                 Lists.. 1785       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., grantor to John Douglas, February 7, 1785, Washington County, PA                 Chartiers Creek, Grantee Land Index, Book 1B, p. 31. Westmoreland County Court House,                         Greensburg, PA 1785       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, received a warrant to take up 400                     acres in Washington County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, dated, February 17, 1785.                         Pennsylvania State Archives 1785       John Kinkead.  [000003] The above is a draught of survey made March 21, 1785 in pursuance of a                 warrant granted to John Kinkead dated 17th Feb. 1785, called Brush Ridge.  Containing 400 acres                 with 6 percent allowance and is situate in Washington County. David Redeck, D.S.  To John                         Lukens, Esq’r.  S.G.  Adjacent land owners: John Reed, Robert Henderson’s Claim, Fry’s Claim,                 vacant.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED SURVEYS,                     1681-1912, Vol. L, p. 362. 1787       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., received a warrant for 100 acres in Washington County, PA, now in                     Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, dated, June 1, 1787, patented, June 24, 1799, John                         Kinkead, 102.88 acres. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office                 WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. 1788       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, patented 400 acres in Washington                 County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, date of return, June 24, 1788, warrant, Feb. 17, 1785.                 Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-                1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. 1788       James Kinkead [000022] on roll of Capt. Thomas Brisland’s Company of Washington County, PA                     Militia.  History of Washington County, PA, 1882. 1789       James Kinkaid warranted 200 acres in Washington County, PA, March 3, 1789. Pennsylvania                     Archives, s. 3, v. 26, p. 574:RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957,             Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 57. 1789       James Kinkaid.  A draught of a survey called “Turkey Green” situate in the waters of Raccoon Creek                 in Washington County containing 234 acres, 3 quarters, 25 perches and the usual allowance for                     roads & executed Apl ye 18th 1789 in pursuance of a warrant granted to James Kinkaid for 200                     acres dated March ye 3d 1789.  Presley Nevill, Mattw. Ritchie, D.S. Jno. Lukens, Esqu’r. S.G.                      Adjacent land owners: Hugh Pugh, John Kinkaid, McCullough, Wm. McConnell, John Stone,                         Thomas Whitacre.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED                     SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. D-38, p. 203.  Allegheny County, PA   1790       John Kinkead, [000003] Portion taken from Washington County, PA, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male                 over 16, 1 male under 16, 1 female. USFC, p.17. 1791       John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA at 9.0. Pennsylvania                         Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 647. 1791       John Kinkead [000003] & wife, Elizabeth of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold 88 acres in                 Mifflin Township, Allegheny  County, PA to Christopher Horning adjoining land of George Katz,                     John Kinkead & George Mantle; witnesses: Michael Jones &  Samuel Jones. April 21, 1791,                         recorded June 17, 1791. Allegheny County, PA Deed Books 1 & 2, p. 335. 1792       John Kinkead [000003] testified for the plaintiff, Nicolas Bausman in Nicolas Bausman v. William                     Steward on Sept. 5, 1792 in Allegheny County, PA.  Washington County, PA   1793       John Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA             Tax Lists 1793       James Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County,                 PA Tax Lists 1794       John Kinkade [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. General List of the                             Taxables in Allegheny  County, PA by Elizabeth Wall. 1795       John Kinkead.  [000003] A draught of a tract of land surveyed the 15th day of July 1795 in                         pursuance of a warrant bearing the date the day  1st June 1787 for 100 acres for John Kinkead                     situate in Mifflin Township and County of Allegheny.  Presley Nevill, D.S.   To Daniel Broadhead,                 Esq’r. Surveyor General.  Adjacent land owners: John Kinkead, Widow Work, James Torrence, John             Reed.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-            1912,Vol. C-114, p. 58. 1795       John Kinkead [000022] grantor to Joseph Hulten, August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington                 County, PA. Book 1L, p. 360.   Washington County Court House, Washington, PA 1795       John Kinkead [000022] & wife, Jean, grantees from Benjamin Wells, August 12, 1795, Smith                     Township, Washington County, PA.   Washington County Court House, Washington, PA 1795       James Kinkead [000022] & wife, Nancy, grantees from Benjamin Wells, grantor, August 12, 1795,             Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County Court House, Washington, PA 1799    John Kinkead [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold to George Allison of Mifflin                 Township, Allegheny County, PA  2 acres for 5 shillings in Mifflin Township being part of a tract of                 400 acres granted to John Kinkead by the Supreme Executive Council patent date, July 10, 1788, on             May 7, 1799. Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 10-K, p. 276. 1799    John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., patented 102 acres in Washington County, PA, now Allegheny County,             PA, date of return, January 28, 1799, name of tract, Farmer’s Hope, warrant June 1, 1787.                          Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-20 to             P-35), 1792-1800, P, No. 34, May 1798-Oct. 1799 p. 158. 1799    John Kinkead [000003] of Peter’s Creek, Allegheny County, PA had letters remaining at the                         Pittsburgh Post Office, Oct. 1, 1799. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. 1800    John Kinkaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 2 males 16-26, 1 male 10-16, 1 male             under 10,1 female 26-45, 1 female 10-16. USFC, 74. 1800       John Kincaid, Canton Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 2 males under 10, 1                     female 26-45, 2 females under 10. USFC, 18:10. 1800       John Kincaid, Chartiers Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 26-45, 2 males                 under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10.  USFC, 28:10. 1803       John Kincaid [000003] appointed with John Finley, John Vernen, Joseph Wilson, John Wilson,                     Samuel Kirkpatrick & Philip Yant to make an evaluation of 235 acres in St. Clair Township, Allegheny             County, PA which belonged to George Caty, deceased, November 1803.            Allegheny County, PA, Orphan’s Court Docket I, 1789-1820, p. 85. 1810       John Kinkade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 16-26, 1                 female 10-16, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 157. 1810    John Kinkade, Indiana Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 male under 10, 1 female 10-            15, 26-45. USFC, p. 313. 1817       John Kincaid [000003] mentioned as adjoining land owner to Major Abraham Kirkpatrick, deceased,             who owned a tract of land in St. Clair Township, Allegheny County, PA called “Coal Hill Plantation”                 containing 235 acres, November,1817. Allegheny County, PA Orphan’s Court   Docket I, 1789-1820,             p. 285. 1819       John Kinkaid [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA & William Carrel of Mifflin                         Township, Allegheny County, PA, executors of the will of William Reed, deseased of Mifflin Township             sold to Henry Roads of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 401 ¾ acres   called   Tabermore                 conveyed to William Reed by patent dated November 6, 1802, for $1700.86 on April 23, 1818.                     Allegheny County Deed Book 27-2B, p. 89. 1830       John Kincade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. USFC. 1831       John Kincaid, [000003] private, of Allegheny County, PA age 86, received $80.00 per year pension             for service during the Revolutionary  War, sums received $200.00. Commencement of pension March             4, 1831.  Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts. 1833       John Kincaid, [000003] of Jefferson Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania             John Kincaid, Penn. S. 22,345   22.660 Pittsburgh Penn. John Kincaid, Pittsburgh in the State of Penn. was a Private in the Co. commanded by Captain Minton of the Regt. commanded by Col. Beelor in the Penn. Line for two years. Inscribed on the Roll of Penn. Pittsburgh at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831. Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to E. Simpson, Pittsburgh, Penn. Arrears to the 4th of September, 1833 $200.00 ?  allowance ending 4 March 1834          40.00                                                                          240.00 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by Wm. ? Palmer, Clerk Book E, Vol. five, page 82   War Department Pension Office 15th Nov. 1833 Sir                         The evidence in support of your ? and the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned.  The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form.  On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subscribed notes you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be allowed.  The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done.  Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus }).  You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with the, and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim. A Statement, showing the Service of John Kincaid Period of Service          Duration           Rank    Name & Rank of Field officers             age at present 1 May 1778                 6 months          Prvt.     Capt. Minton                                        85 years, Pa.                                                                                     Capt. Beeler 1 May 1779                 6 months          Prvt.     Capt. Wright    1 May 1780                 6 months          Prvt.     Capt. Cox                                                                                     Capt. Mitchel 1 May 1781                 7 months          Prvt.     Cunningham   I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions   1833       John Kincaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, was a native of Lancaster County, PA, private in a                 company of artificers in the erection of    Ft. McIntosh, died Nov. 16, 1833 leaving 2 daughters: Elizabeth Duncan & Hannah Torrence. Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts

Thank you. It was worth a shot but doesn't look like James could be son to David d 1795 or to any of David's sons. Unless 28835 and 1255 can find a common ancestor downline from John/Elizabeth Logan it looks like John or his father David/Winnefred may have carried the mutation to 11 at marker 4. Neither of these participants are vetted to John/Elizabeth but both have some circumstantial evidence that this is the correct linkage by different sons to John/Elizabeth. IF the linkages are correct then 11207 who does not have the mutation cannot be a son to Hobson. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: <TALLT75501@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David d 1795 Bourbon Co. KY >I use to work with a James B. Kincaid who descended from James and >Elizabeth > Church Kincaid. You will also find this James and Elizabeth living in > Franklin County, Tennessee. James B. died before he could prove who the > father > of James was. > > Using the date of marriage for David and Patsy Shrygley in Bourbon > County, KY James would have been too old to have been his child. Or, > using the > Census records of 1800 and 1810 it does not appear that David had 3 older > sons, > but just two. However, There is folklore that there were three brothers > that > came to Lawrence County, TN one was David Marion Kincaid Jr, one was > Landon > and perhaps James would have been the 3rd. > > His parents could also be Hopson Kincaid that was living in Franklin > County, TN. You will notice that Amon and the other descendants of James > and > Elizabeth Church match up with that family as well. > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Sue. Thomas S. Kincaid was born 7 Aug 1818 in Kentucky (according to my info). He died 27 Dec 1866. He and Marena Siverly were married 24 Jun 1841 in Henry, Illinois. I think she may have been born 27 Jan 1822. George F. Kincaid was born in April, 1850 in Mercer Co., Illinois. He died in Hutchinson, KS. I have not been back to Hutchinson to photograph his grave, or I would have his exact death date. He's buried in Nickerson, KS. His son, William T. Kincaid was born 23 Jul 1877 in Butler Co., KS and died 6 Sep 1949 in Wichita, KS. He was in the Spanish American War. He and his wife are also buried at Wildmead Cemetery in Nickerson, KS. W.T. and May's son, Richard, died at the age of 3 (about 1910). I have the newspaper clipping somewhere, but I would have to hunt up the exact date. My grandma (their only other child) is Helen Kincaid Whorton. She was born 28? Jun 1908 (I think in Denver, CO) and died 9 Jan 2005 in Spearfish, SD at my mom's home. She spent most of her adult life in Junction City, KS and worked at Fort Riley. She became quite accomplished there and we're anticipating that they will be displaying her life accomplishments there at the museum. She was truly a woman out of her time. Anyway, I have some genealogy beyond Thomas S. and Marena, but I honestly feel that I don't have a lot of supporting evidence for George F. Kincaid's parentage right now. Our local chapter of the DAR is helping me with this. What I do think is that Thomas S. Kincaid's parents are James Kincaid (b. 18 Apr 1788 in Cumberland, PA m. 5 May 1816 in Montgomery, KY and d. 11 Jan 1856 in Henry, Illinois) and Polly Sanders Kincaid (b. and d. unknown). I have James' parents as Andrew Kincaid and Martha Townsley Kincaid (of Archibald/Andrew and Janet/Martha Townsley fame). Life has not slowed down in the last 10 years to allow me to keep up with my genealogy the way I would like to, and sometimes I feel like I'm having to re-invent the wheel. But my sister and brother are doing it with me now, and so we kind of help each other with keeping track of it all. I appreciate you taking your time to help me. Thanks... Debby Potter **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

Matthew Kinkead ran the Kinkead Buffalo Ranch in Pueblo, CO, as was discussed earlier here. I seem to recall that you (pennie milicevich) were the one who posted the most detailed response to it, no? Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <isiscatt@yahoo.com>; <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Charles L.Kincaid >I found this Charles L. Kincaid living very near Andrew/Andreas Kincaid, in > Tulare County, CA in the 1860 and 1870 censuses. Andrew > was the son of the Mathew Kincaid who was a friend/and or relative of Kit > Carson. I > think that this was the same Charles Kincaid of Scotland County, MO. > Andrew > had a daughter named Rafaela Kincaid--- not sure of the exact spelling of > her first name. She is shown as buying land in CA in the Bureau of Land > Management website. > > > October 1835 Matthew Kinkead received a land grant in the Mora River >> Valley on the eastern slope of the New Mexico mountains. There he met >> Teresita, the wife of a neighbor. Matthew and Teresita had two children: >> Rafaela and Andres. >> >> In 1841-2 Matthew Kinkead moved to the Arkansas River, near mouth of >> Fountain Creek at the present site of Pueblo, Colorado. In the spring of >> 1842 Matthew was one of the builders of Ft. Pueblo. >> >> In the spring of 1849 Matthew Kinkead moved to Sacramento, CA where he >> became wealthy-owning ships and haciendas." >> > October 1835 Matthew Kinkead received a land grant in the Mora River >> Valley on the eastern slope of the New Mexico mountains. There he met >> Teresita, the wife of a neighbor. Matthew and Teresita had two children: >> Rafaela and Andres. >> >> In 1841-2 Matthew Kinkead moved to the Arkansas River, near mouth of >> Fountain Creek at the present site of Pueblo, Colorado. In the spring of >> 1842 Matthew was one of the builders of Ft. Pueblo. >> >> In the spring of 1849 Matthew Kinkead moved to Sacramento, CA where he >> became wealthy-owning ships and haciendas." >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KINCAID/2005-11/1133020516 > > Barbara Van Hout > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pennie milicevich" <isiscatt@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:44 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Charles L.Kincaid > > >> Anyone have any information concerning Charles L. Kincaid born about 1803 >> in Kentucky. He is recorded living in Mount Pleasant, Scotland County of >> Missouri in 1850 census. Along with his wife and children. >> >> Now in 1860-1870 their is a Charles L. Kincaid/Kinkead recorded living in >> Tulare County of California. I am trying to see if they are the same >> person. >> >> Pennie Eiben >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found this Charles L. Kincaid living very near Andrew/Andreas Kincaid, in Tulare County, CA in the 1860 and 1870 censuses. Andrew was the son of the Mathew Kincaid who was a friend/and or relative of Kit Carson. I think that this was the same Charles Kincaid of Scotland County, MO. Andrew had a daughter named Rafaela Kincaid--- not sure of the exact spelling of her first name. She is shown as buying land in CA in the Bureau of Land Management website. October 1835 Matthew Kinkead received a land grant in the Mora River > Valley on the eastern slope of the New Mexico mountains. There he met > Teresita, the wife of a neighbor. Matthew and Teresita had two children: > Rafaela and Andres. > > In 1841-2 Matthew Kinkead moved to the Arkansas River, near mouth of > Fountain Creek at the present site of Pueblo, Colorado. In the spring of > 1842 Matthew was one of the builders of Ft. Pueblo. > > In the spring of 1849 Matthew Kinkead moved to Sacramento, CA where he > became wealthy-owning ships and haciendas." > October 1835 Matthew Kinkead received a land grant in the Mora River > Valley on the eastern slope of the New Mexico mountains. There he met > Teresita, the wife of a neighbor. Matthew and Teresita had two children: > Rafaela and Andres. > > In 1841-2 Matthew Kinkead moved to the Arkansas River, near mouth of > Fountain Creek at the present site of Pueblo, Colorado. In the spring of > 1842 Matthew was one of the builders of Ft. Pueblo. > > In the spring of 1849 Matthew Kinkead moved to Sacramento, CA where he > became wealthy-owning ships and haciendas." > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KINCAID/2005-11/1133020516 Barbara Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: "pennie milicevich" <isiscatt@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Charles L.Kincaid > Anyone have any information concerning Charles L. Kincaid born about 1803 > in Kentucky. He is recorded living in Mount Pleasant, Scotland County of > Missouri in 1850 census. Along with his wife and children. > > Now in 1860-1870 their is a Charles L. Kincaid/Kinkead recorded living in > Tulare County of California. I am trying to see if they are the same > person. > > Pennie Eiben > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "pennie milicevich" <isiscatt@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:44 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Charles L.Kincaid > Anyone have any information concerning Charles L. Kincaid born about 1803 > in Kentucky. He is recorded living in Mount Pleasant, Scotland County of > Missouri in 1850 census. Along with his wife and children. > > Now in 1860-1870 their is a Charles L. Kincaid/Kinkead recorded living in > Tulare County of California. I am trying to see if they are the same > person. > > Pennie Eiben > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message