This Mary Kinkead's latest date of birth would have been in the 1740's. Did you once write that a possible father for these Kincaids was James who died in Barbadoes, and was the brother of John of Sadsbury? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Mary Kinkead, sister to Samuel & John Kinkead, York County,PA >I believe that Mary Kinkead who warranted two lots in Bedford, Cumberland >County, later Bedford County was never married. She is never referred to as >widow. Here is a timeline for her: > 1767 Mary Kinkaid [000004] warranted lots 57 & 58 in Bedford Town, > Cumberland County, PA, January 19, 1767. Pennsylvania State Archives > 1771 Robert Kinkeade [000005] & Mary Kinkead, [000004] witnesses to deed > of Bernard Dougherty of the town of Bedford to Frederick Nagle of same for > lot 81 in Bedford, Cumberland County, PA, March 21, 1771. Bedford County, > PA, Deed book A, page 40. > 1773 Mary Kinkead [000004] of Bedford Township, sold to Samuel McCashlan > of the town of Bedford on Feb. 26, 1773, whereas by virtue of an > application made by said Mary to John Lukins Esq. Surveyor General of the > Providence, for two certain lots (#57 and #58) situated in Bedford Town, > said two lots were granted to her 17 Jun 1766. Now for 6 PA currency Mary > sells both lots to McCashlan. Witnesses: Barnard Dougherty, Robert > Cochran, George Woods, and Robert Galbraith. > 1776 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will > written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779, see below. Executor: > Michael Kinkcaid, [000004] York County, PA; brother, John Kinkcaid > [000004]; sister: Mary Kinkcaid [000004]. York County PA Wills. > 1787 Mary Kinkead [000004] received a warrant for 100 acres in Colerain > Township, Bedford County, PA on November 26, 1787. Pennsylvania Archives, > s. 3, v. 25, p. 554. > 1788 Mary Kinkead, [000004] a draught of a tract of land situate in > Friends Grove in Colerain Township, Bedford County containing one hundred > and seventy nine acres with the usual allowance of six per cent for roads, > surveyed for Mary Kinkead the 4th day of September 1788. In pursuance of a > warrant dated November 26th 1787. George Woods D.S. To John Lukens, Esqu. > S.G. Adjacent land owners: > Barnard Dougherty, Esqu, land now Mary Kinkead, land in the name of > Barnard Dougherty, now Mary Kinkead, Dunning’s Mountain. Pennsylvania > State Archives, Surveys, ____, p. 206. > 1789 Mary Kincaid, [000004] legatee, in Ann Springer’s will, of York > Borough, York County, PA, will written March 13, 1789, proved March 16, > 1789. York County, PA Wills. > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Mary Kincaid who bought lots in the town of Bedford in 1767 may have been a widow. She was old enough to buy the land---for her family?--and she had the money to do so. So it is questionable that she was young and never married. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkead, Middleton Township, Cumberland County,PA I believe that Mary Kinkead in Bedford County, PA to be the sister to Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, York County, PA, see his will below: 1779 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779. She receives 100 acres from her brother. Last Will & Testament of Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May 12, 1779 In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health of body and of sound memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy six, make and publish this my last will and testament. In manner following that is to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land where it may not hurt the place but most convenient for both places. Next, I give to my sister Mary [000004] one hundred acres of any place. Next I give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, [000004] one hundred acres of my land near Fitchburgh (This was difficult to read and could have been Pittsburgh) on Petters Creek. Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my chattels and goods he has now in his possesion. And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] to be my whole executor of this my last will and testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this my will contained and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my last will and testament set my hand and seal the day and year above mentioned. Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. Samuel Kinkaid [000004] Hugh Artens John Shultz York County Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting letters of administration in and for the County of York in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania personally came Hugh Artens and John Shultz the two subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrument of writing and on their solemn oaths in the common form of law do severally and respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written instrument of writing, but do not particularly recollect his signing or sealing or publishing the same. But he, the said Samuel Kinkead being then engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they effectively understood it to be his last will and testament, which he then made before he would march. That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are respectively of the said deponents own hand writing and that they respectively are fully assured that they would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had seen the same signed, sealed and published, the further that the said Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that time of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding to the best of their knowledge and belief, and farther that they did sign their names there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other. Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779 Hugh Artens John Shultz Arch McClean Reg. Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:02:07 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkead, Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA Is the 1767 Mary whom you refer to the same Mary who bought land in Bedford County? The Mary who was taxed in Bedford County had a Robert named with her in one of the records. There were a group of families in Friend's Cove of Bedford County, PA who went to Washington County, PA and then on to Hardin County, KY. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo..com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkead, Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA Dear Kincaid-listers, many years ago in a discussion about the probable father of Andrew and Archibald Kinkead there was the subject of a Widow Kinkead taxed in Lower Tryone Township, Cumberland County, PA in 1763. Who was she if Archibald and Andrew's mother, Mary appears in 1767? In 2006 I went to the Pennsylvania State Archives to do research on counties that I had not researched:Butler and York. But there was a micorfilm roll of taxables for Cumberland County, PA. And I had this Samueal Kinkead in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1762 and I just wanted to confirm that he was there and that I hadn't made a mistake. Here are the taxables for Cumberland County, PA in 1762: 1762 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 150 warranted acres. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Samuel Kinkead taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA at 1. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 John Kinkade, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Andrew Kinkade [000018] taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for 1 lot. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. Here are the taxables for 1763: 1763 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] carpenter, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for lot # 288. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Widow Kinkead [1263] taxed in lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA for 100 unwarranted acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Andrew Kinkead [000018] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 200 acres.. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberalnd County, PA for 300 acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA The widow in Lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA is most likely the wife of Samuel Kinkead of Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. This is the only citation to this Samuel. But his presence leaves open the possibility of other offspring for this family cluster. And it also adds weight to Andrew the Carpenter being the father of Andrew & Archibald Kinkead of Tyrone Township. It also cleans up the timeline. Here are the taxables for 1761: 1761 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 300 warranted acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] inmate, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA I also discovered a possible earlier connection between the Kinkeads of Cumberland County, PA and Michael Kinkead of York County, PA. A John Agnew is listed as one of the mortgagees with John Kinkead, Merchant of Carlisle: 1765 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, John Steel, John Vanleer, & John Agnew, all of Carlisle, received from Joseph Boyd, mason of Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA, a mortgage of 26 pounds.16.2 due October 1, 1765 for: a house & lot in Carlisle on Pomfret St. & 1 horse cart, 1 feather bed, 3 quilts, 1 chaff bed, 2 blankets, 1 tea table & equipage, 1 pewter basin, 6 plates,1 tankard, 1 spade, 1 shovel, 1 crowbar & sledge, 1 silk damask gown, 1 large bible & 10 small books, 2 silver teaspoons, 1 chest with sundry goods, carpenter tools, 1 trowel, 1 hammer, 2 brackets, & 1 tub. Repayment to be: John Kinkead 7 pounds.17.3, John Steel 6 pounds.7.10, John Vanleer 4 pounds.9.7 & John Agnew 8 pounds.2.6. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA A John Agnew is co-executor of Samuel McCulloch's Will, Hamilton Banns Township, York County, PA. 1773 Michael Kinhead, [000004] executor with John Agnew to Samuel McCulloch's will, of Hamiltonsban Township, York County, PA, will written, April 6, 1773, proved, June 1, 1773. Sincerely Norman Kincaide To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Is the 1767 Mary whom you refer to the same Mary who bought land in Bedford County? The Mary who was taxed in Bedford County had a Robert named with her in one of the records. There were a group of families in Friend's Cove of Bedford County, PA who went to Washington County, PA and then on to Hardin County, KY. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkead, Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA Dear Kincaid-listers, many years ago in a discussion about the probable father of Andrew and Archibald Kinkead there was the subject of a Widow Kinkead taxed in Lower Tryone Township, Cumberland County, PA in 1763. Who was she if Archibald and Andrew's mother, Mary appears in 1767? In 2006 I went to the Pennsylvania State Archives to do research on counties that I had not researched:Butler and York. But there was a micorfilm roll of taxables for Cumberland County, PA. And I had this Samueal Kinkead in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1762 and I just wanted to confirm that he was there and that I hadn't made a mistake. Here are the taxables for Cumberland County, PA in 1762: 1762 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 150 warranted acres. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Samuel Kinkead taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA at 1. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 John Kinkade, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Andrew Kinkade [000018] taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for 1 lot. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. Here are the taxables for 1763: 1763 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] carpenter, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for lot # 288. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Widow Kinkead [1263] taxed in lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA for 100 unwarranted acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Andrew Kinkead [000018] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 200 acres.. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberalnd County, PA for 300 acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA The widow in Lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA is most likely the wife of Samuel Kinkead of Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. This is the only citation to this Samuel. But his presence leaves open the possibility of other offspring for this family cluster. And it also adds weight to Andrew the Carpenter being the father of Andrew & Archibald Kinkead of Tyrone Township. It also cleans up the timeline. Here are the taxables for 1761: 1761 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 300 warranted acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] inmate, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA I also discovered a possible earlier connection between the Kinkeads of Cumberland County, PA and Michael Kinkead of York County, PA. A John Agnew is listed as one of the mortgagees with John Kinkead, Merchant of Carlisle: 1765 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, John Steel, John Vanleer, & John Agnew, all of Carlisle, received from Joseph Boyd, mason of Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA, a mortgage of 26 pounds.16.2 due October 1, 1765 for: a house & lot in Carlisle on Pomfret St. & 1 horse cart, 1 feather bed, 3 quilts, 1 chaff bed, 2 blankets, 1 tea table & equipage, 1 pewter basin, 6 plates,1 tankard, 1 spade, 1 shovel, 1 crowbar & sledge, 1 silk damask gown, 1 large bible & 10 small books, 2 silver teaspoons, 1 chest with sundry goods, carpenter tools, 1 trowel, 1 hammer, 2 brackets, & 1 tub. Repayment to be: John Kinkead 7 pounds.17.3, John Steel 6 pounds.7.10, John Vanleer 4 pounds.9.7 & John Agnew 8 pounds.2.6. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA A John Agnew is co-executor of Samuel McCulloch's Will, Hamilton Banns Township, York County, PA. 1773 Michael Kinhead, [000004] executor with John Agnew to Samuel McCulloch's will, of Hamiltonsban Township, York County, PA, will written, April 6, 1773, proved, June 1, 1773. Sincerely Norman Kincaide To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Mary- The Kincaid-list DNA test results would be most interesting. You see discussions of it here. It is simple and painless: swab the special little wands on the inside of the cheeks, replace them in the special test tubes, send in to Family Tree DNA and wait 6-8 weeks. Financial help is available if you need it. BTW, my brother (born 1953) is John Robert Kinkead. My brick wall is Mary (Land) Kinkead d.1795 in Westmoreland Co, PA, which is why I'm watching Norman's research closely. I'm certain that her husband, my gggggf David Kinkead, was somehow related to the Kinkead clan there, which is why he moved there from Burlington, NJ, to begin with. Dick Kinkead DNA# 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead > How my husband's family fits - I'm not sure. This is what I know: > > My husband - John Robert Kinkead - born in Martinsburg, WV on 5/27/1947 > His father - John Blue Kinkead - born in Springfield, WV on 9/24/1912 - > died Hedgesville, WV - died 10/4/1975 in Martinsburg, WV > His father - John Andrew Kinkead - born in Glenboig in the Landward of New > Monkland in County Lanark Scotland 4/24/1882 (the surname on the birth > record was spelled Kinked). he died April 25, 1940 in Hedgesville, WV and > is buried in Springfield, WV. He came to the United State when he was 5 > and lived in the Pittsburgh, PA area before moving to Springfield WV then > to Hedgesville, WV > His father - Hugh Kinkaid (the spelling as stated on his death > certificated) born 5/25, 1833 in Ireland or Scotland (of this I am not > sure). He died 6/22/1922 in Springfield and is buried there. He was > married to a Martha Adams or Adamson on December 23, 1870 in Banbrige, > Ireland . He came to the USA somewhere between 1882 and1887 to work as a > fireman who coke ovens for either making steel or brick. When the > depression hit he moved to Springfield WV to farm. > > His father is John Kinkaid born in Scotland but date is not known nor is > any other information known. > > This is about all I know. I know that John Andrew had two brothers: > Hugh(died young and is buried in Springfield) and James who was either a > teacher or a lawyer and stayed in the Washington PA area; Martha was too > ill to travel when the family left Pa to come to WV so she stayed there > was James and some other family friends. She is buried there an I have > not been able to find a record of her death or where she is buried. John > Andrew also had two sisters Maggie and Annie. Annie married a Field from > Springfield and lived there the rest of her life. > > If anyone has any information to share I would greatly appredicate it. Or > if you have any question I can clarify for you please email me. > > Thanks >

That is a possibility, since Michael Kinkead is called cousin in Samuel's will their father's would have been brothers and their grandfather the common ancestor.  Guess I'll have to do a line chart of these guys to see if that is a realistic possibility.  Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:04:19 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Mary Kinkead, sister to Samuel & John Kinkead, York County, PA This Mary Kinkead's latest date of birth would have been in the 1740's.  Did you once write that a possible father for these Kincaids was James who died in Barbadoes, and was the brother of John of Sadsbury? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Mary Kinkead, sister to Samuel & John Kinkead, York County,PA >I believe that Mary Kinkead who warranted two lots in Bedford, Cumberland >County, later Bedford County was never married. She is never referred to as >widow. Here is a timeline for her: > 1767 Mary Kinkaid [000004] warranted lots 57 & 58 in Bedford Town, > Cumberland County, PA, January 19, 1767. Pennsylvania State Archives > 1771 Robert Kinkeade [000005] & Mary Kinkead, [000004] witnesses to deed > of Bernard Dougherty of the town of Bedford to Frederick Nagle of same for > lot 81 in Bedford, Cumberland County, PA, March 21, 1771. Bedford County, > PA, Deed book A, page 40. > 1773 Mary Kinkead [000004] of Bedford Township, sold to Samuel McCashlan > of the town of Bedford on Feb. 26, 1773, whereas by virtue of an > application made by said Mary to John Lukins Esq. Surveyor General of the > Providence, for two certain lots (#57 and #58) situated in Bedford Town, > said two lots were granted to her 17 Jun 1766. Now for 6 PA currency Mary > sells both lots to McCashlan. Witnesses: Barnard Dougherty, Robert > Cochran, George Woods, and Robert Galbraith. > 1776 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will > written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779, see below. Executor: > Michael Kinkcaid, [000004] York County, PA; brother, John Kinkcaid > [000004]; sister: Mary Kinkcaid [000004].. York County PA Wills. > 1787 Mary Kinkead [000004] received a warrant for 100 acres in Colerain > Township, Bedford County, PA on November 26, 1787. Pennsylvania Archives, > s. 3, v. 25, p. 554. > 1788 Mary Kinkead, [000004] a draught of a tract of land situate in > Friends Grove in Colerain Township, Bedford County containing one hundred > and seventy nine acres with the usual allowance of six per cent for roads, > surveyed for Mary Kinkead the 4th day of September 1788. In pursuance of a > warrant dated November 26th 1787. George Woods D.S. To John Lukens, Esqu. > S.G. Adjacent land owners: > Barnard Dougherty, Esqu, land now Mary Kinkead, land in the name of > Barnard Dougherty, now Mary Kinkead, Dunning’s Mountain. Pennsylvania > State Archives, Surveys, ____, p. 206. > 1789 Mary Kincaid, [000004] legatee, in Ann Springer’s will, of York > Borough, York County, PA, will written March 13, 1789, proved March 16, > 1789. York County, PA Wills. > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Of course most Americans know by now that Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe IV. I read long ago that he took his brother's/stepfather's surname (for reasons one's view of which depend on one's view of the man), number four below. Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website > and added a few more below their info: > > Non Paternity > The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to non > paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is > given a surname that differs from his historical surname. > > Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. > > 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's > surname, even though the husband is not the father. > > 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. > > 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. > > 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their > name. > > If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must > work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA > test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when or > what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or > it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it could > be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded > adoption or a common-law marriage. > > My additions: > > 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other > families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother > died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in > school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was not > their son. > > 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is > freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and > respected. > > 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many > people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen > to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match > > 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names > changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with > most of that surname. > > > > Are there more non paternity events not listed above? > > DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. > > Don W. > > > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that Mary Kinkead who warranted two lots in Bedford, Cumberland County, later Bedford County was never married.  She is never referred to as widow.  Here is a timeline for her: 1767 Mary Kinkaid [000004] warranted lots 57 & 58 in Bedford Town, Cumberland County, PA, January 19,             1767. Pennsylvania State Archives 1771 Robert Kinkeade [000005] & Mary Kinkead, [000004] witnesses to deed of Bernard Dougherty of the             town of  Bedford to Frederick Nagle of same for lot 81 in Bedford, Cumberland County, PA, March 21,             1771.  Bedford County, PA, Deed book A, page 40.  1773 Mary Kinkead [000004] of Bedford Township, sold to Samuel McCashlan of the town of Bedford on Feb.         26, 1773,  whereas by virtue of an application made by said Mary to John  Lukins Esq. Surveyor                 General of the Providence, for two  certain lots (#57 and #58) situated in Bedford Town, said two lots             were granted to her 17 Jun 1766. Now for 6 PA currency Mary sells both lots to McCashlan.                          Witnesses: Barnard Dougherty, Robert Cochran, George Woods, and Robert Galbraith. 1776 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will written March 26, 1776, proved April         30, 1779, see below.  Executor: Michael Kinkcaid, [000004] York County, PA; brother, John Kinkcaid         [000004]; sister: Mary Kinkcaid [000004].   York County PA Wills. 1787 Mary Kinkead [000004] received a warrant for 100 acres in Colerain Township, Bedford County, PA on         November 26, 1787.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 25, p. 554. 1788 Mary Kinkead, [000004] a draught of a tract of land situate in Friends Grove in Colerain Township,                 Bedford County containing one hundred and seventy nine acres with the usual allowance of six per cent         for roads, surveyed for Mary Kinkead the 4th day of September 1788. In pursuance of a warrant dated             November 26th 1787.  George Woods D.S.  To John Lukens, Esqu.  S.G.  Adjacent land owners:          Barnard Dougherty, Esqu, land now Mary Kinkead, land in the name of Barnard Dougherty, now Mary         Kinkead, Dunning’s Mountain.  Pennsylvania State Archives, Surveys, ____, p. 206. 1789 Mary Kincaid, [000004] legatee, in Ann Springer’s will, of York Borough, York County, PA, will written         March 13, 1789, proved  March 16, 1789. York County, PA Wills. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

I believe that Mary Kinkead in Bedford County, PA to be the sister to Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, York County, PA, see his will below: 1779 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779.   She receives 100 acres from her brother.  Last Will & Testament of Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May 12, 1779              In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health of body and of sound   memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand seven   hundred and seventy six, make and publish this my last will and testament.  In manner following that is   to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land where it may not hurt the place    but most convenient for both places.  Next, I give to my sister Mary [000004] one hundred acres of   any place.  Next I give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, [000004]   one hundred acres of my land near Fitchburgh  (This was difficult to read and could have been Pittsburgh)   on Petters Creek.  Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my chattels and goods he     has now in his possesion.  And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] to be my   whole executor of this my last will and testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this my will   contained and in witness where of I the  said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my last will and   testament set my hand and seal the day and year above mentioned.    Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. Samuel Kinkaid [000004] Hugh Artens John Shultz York County               Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting letters of administration in   and for the County of York in the Commonwealth of  Pennsylvania personally came Hugh Artens and John   Shultz the two subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrument of writing and on their solemn oaths in the   common form of law do severally and respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when   the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written instrument of writing, but do not   particularly recollect his signing or sealing or publishing the same.  But he, the said Samuel Kinkead being   then engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they effectively understood it to be his last will and   testament, which he then made  before he would march.  That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are    respectively of the said deponents own hand writing and that they respectively are fully assured that they   would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had seen the same signed, sealed and   published, the further that the said Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that time of sound and disposing mind    memory and understanding to the best of their knowledge and belief, and farther that they did sign their names   there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other. Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779 Hugh Artens John Shultz Arch McClean Reg. Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:02:07 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkead, Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA Is the 1767 Mary whom you refer to the same Mary who bought land in Bedford County?  The Mary who was taxed in Bedford County had a Robert named with her in one of the records.  There were a group of families in Friend's Cove of Bedford County, PA who went to Washington County, PA and then on to Hardin County, KY. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo..com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Samuel Kinkead, Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA Dear Kincaid-listers, many years ago in a discussion about the probable father of Andrew and Archibald Kinkead there was the subject of a Widow Kinkead taxed in Lower Tryone Township, Cumberland County, PA in 1763. Who was she if Archibald and Andrew's mother, Mary appears in 1767? In 2006 I went to the Pennsylvania State Archives to do research on counties that I had not researched:Butler and York. But there was a micorfilm roll of taxables for Cumberland County, PA. And I had this Samueal Kinkead in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1762 and I just wanted to confirm that he was there and that I hadn't made a mistake. Here are the taxables for Cumberland County, PA in 1762: 1762 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 150 warranted acres. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Samuel Kinkead taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA at 1. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 John Kinkade, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Andrew Kinkade [000018] taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for 1 lot. Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. Here are the taxables for 1763: 1763 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] carpenter, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for lot # 288. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Widow Kinkead [1263] taxed in lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA for 100 unwarranted acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Andrew Kinkead [000018] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 200 acres.. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberalnd County, PA for 300 acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA The widow in Lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA is most likely the wife of Samuel Kinkead of Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. This is the only citation to this Samuel. But his presence leaves open the possibility of other offspring for this family cluster. And it also adds weight to Andrew the Carpenter being the father of Andrew & Archibald Kinkead of Tyrone Township. It also cleans up the timeline. Here are the taxables for 1761: 1761 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 300 warranted acres. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] inmate, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA I also discovered a possible earlier connection between the Kinkeads of Cumberland County, PA and Michael Kinkead of York County, PA. A John Agnew is listed as one of the mortgagees with John Kinkead, Merchant of Carlisle: 1765 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, John Steel, John Vanleer, & John Agnew, all of Carlisle, received from Joseph Boyd, mason of Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA, a mortgage of 26 pounds.16.2 due October 1, 1765 for: a house & lot in Carlisle on Pomfret St. & 1 horse cart, 1 feather bed, 3 quilts, 1 chaff bed, 2 blankets, 1 tea table & equipage, 1 pewter basin, 6 plates,1 tankard, 1 spade, 1 shovel, 1 crowbar & sledge, 1 silk damask gown, 1 large bible & 10 small books, 2 silver teaspoons, 1 chest with sundry goods, carpenter tools, 1 trowel, 1 hammer, 2 brackets, & 1 tub. Repayment to be: John Kinkead 7 pounds.17.3, John Steel 6 pounds.7.10, John Vanleer 4 pounds.9.7 & John Agnew 8 pounds.2.6. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA A John Agnew is co-executor of Samuel McCulloch's Will, Hamilton Banns Township, York County, PA. 1773 Michael Kinhead, [000004] executor with John Agnew to Samuel McCulloch's will, of Hamiltonsban Township, York County, PA, will written, April 6, 1773, proved, June 1, 1773. Sincerely Norman Kincaide To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Kincaid-listers, many years ago in a discussion about the probable father of Andrew and Archibald Kinkead there was the subject of a Widow Kinkead taxed in Lower Tryone Township, Cumberland County, PA in 1763.  Who was she if Archibald and Andrew's mother, Mary appears in 1767?  In 2006 I went to the Pennsylvania State Archives to do research on counties that I had not researched:Butler and York.  But there was a micorfilm roll of taxables for Cumberland County, PA.  And I had this Samueal Kinkead in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1762 and I just wanted to confirm that he was there and that I hadn't made a mistake.  Here are the taxables for Cumberland County, PA in 1762: 1762 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for         150 warranted acres.   Cumberland County Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax         Record Roll 1399,  Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Tax         Record Roll 1399,  Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Samuel Kinkead taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA at 1. Cumberland County Tax         Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 John Kinkade, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland             County  Tax Record Roll 1399, Pennsylvania State Archives. 1762 Andrew Kinkade [000018] taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for 1 lot. Cumberland County Tax         Record Roll 1399,  Pennsylvania State Archives. Here are the taxables for 1763: 1763 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] carpenter, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA for lot # 288.                         Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Widow Kinkead [1263] taxed in lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA for 100 unwarranted             acres.  Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 Andrew Kinkead [000018] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland         County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for 200 acres..                         Cumberland County  Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 James Kinkead [1259] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County                 Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1763 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberalnd County, PA for         300 acres.  Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA The widow in Lower Tyrone Township, Cumberland County, PA is most likely the wife of Samuel Kinkead of Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA.  This is the only citation to this Samuel.  But his presence leaves open the possibility of other offspring for this family cluster.  And it also adds weight to Andrew the Carpenter being the father of Andrew & Archibald Kinkead of Tyrone Township.  It also cleans up the timeline. Here are the taxables for 1761: 1761 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, no acres. Cumberland         County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle taxed in Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA for             300 warranted acres.   Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland             County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1761 Andrew Kinkead, [000018] inmate, taxed in Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County                 Historical Society, Carlisle, PA I also discovered a possible earlier connection between the Kinkeads of Cumberland County, PA and Michael Kinkead of York County, PA. A John Agnew is listed as one of the mortgagees with John Kinkead, Merchant of Carlisle: 1765 John Kinkead, [93625] merchant of Carlisle, John Steel, John Vanleer, & John Agnew, all of Carlisle,     received from  Joseph Boyd, mason of Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA, a mortgage of 26 pounds.16.2 due October 1, 1765 for:  a  house & lot in Carlisle on Pomfret St. & 1 horse cart, 1 feather bed, 3 quilts, 1 chaff bed, 2 blankets, 1 tea table &  equipage, 1 pewter basin, 6 plates,1 tankard, 1 spade, 1 shovel, 1 crowbar & sledge, 1 silk damask gown, 1 large bible & 10 small  books, 2 silver teaspoons, 1 chest with sundry goods, carpenter tools, 1 trowel, 1 hammer, 2 brackets, & 1 tub.  Repayment to be: John Kinkead 7 pounds.17.3, John Steel 6 pounds.7.10, John Vanleer 4 pounds.9.7 &  John Agnew 8 pounds.2.6. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA A John Agnew is co-executor of Samuel McCulloch's Will, Hamilton Banns Township, York County, PA. 1773 Michael Kinhead, [000004] executor with John Agnew to Samuel McCulloch's will, of Hamiltonsban             Township, York County, PA,    will written, April 6, 1773, proved, June 1, 1773. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname Number 1. was apparently what happened in my husband Ted47327 who was given a middle name of the father who legally said he would raise him after marrying his mother. When Ted took the DNA test he was put in the adoption file. I use the word apparently as his parents are gone, all documents I have confirm what I stated. I personally believe he is the grandson of Isaac and Vina Summers Kincaid but unless a male from their family will take the DNA test my belief means nothing. Tootsie Shoemaker Tomlinson wife of the late Ted47327 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utahn1@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > 11. Mother of two has a boyfriend. She gets pregnant. Boyfriend dies. > Female > Child (age 11) of mother goes to court to petition for a name change to > that > of mother's deceased boyfriend. Judge grants request. Pregnant mother > delivers baby and correctly gives him deceased boyfriend's surname. Female > 11 year > old grows up and has two children while unmarried. She gives the children > the > surname of the deceased boyfriend. Only the child born post mortem has the > correct DNA. > > (This is convoluted but very much a true story within my family.) > > Ruth > > > In a message dated 7/17/2008 10:09:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: > > 10. A young underage girl in the family has a male child out of wedlock, > and > her parents avoid the stigma and impact on the girl's future, by treating > the child as their son rather than grandson. This happened in my own > family, > > but with a girl child (even chance it could have been a boy) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> > To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > > >> We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website >> and added a few more below their info: >> >> Non Paternity >> The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to >> non >> paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is >> given a surname that differs from his historical surname. >> >> Non Paternity Events >> 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. >> >> 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's >> surname, even though the husband is not the father. >> >> 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. >> >> 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. >> >> 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their >> name. >> >> If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must >> work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA >> test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when >> or >> what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or >> it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it >> could >> be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded >> adoption or a common-law marriage. >> >> My additions: >> >> 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other >> families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother >> died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in >> school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was >> not >> their son. >> >> 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is >> freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and >> respected. >> >> 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many >> people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen >> to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match >> >> 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names >> changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with >> most of that surname. >> >> >> >> Are there more non paternity events not listed above? >> >> DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. >> >> Don W. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid > %20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. 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11. Mother of two has a boyfriend. She gets pregnant. Boyfriend dies. Female Child (age 11) of mother goes to court to petition for a name change to that of mother's deceased boyfriend. Judge grants request. Pregnant mother delivers baby and correctly gives him deceased boyfriend's surname. Female 11 year old grows up and has two children while unmarried. She gives the children the surname of the deceased boyfriend. Only the child born post mortem has the correct DNA. (This is convoluted but very much a true story within my family.) Ruth In a message dated 7/17/2008 10:09:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: 10. A young underage girl in the family has a male child out of wedlock, and her parents avoid the stigma and impact on the girl's future, by treating the child as their son rather than grandson. This happened in my own family, but with a girl child (even chance it could have been a boy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website > and added a few more below their info: > > Non Paternity > The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to non > paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is > given a surname that differs from his historical surname. > > Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. > > 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's > surname, even though the husband is not the father. > > 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. > > 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. > > 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their > name. > > If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must > work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA > test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when or > what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or > it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it could > be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded > adoption or a common-law marriage. > > My additions: > > 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other > families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother > died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in > school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was not > their son. > > 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is > freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and > respected. > > 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many > people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen > to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match > > 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names > changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with > most of that surname. > > > > Are there more non paternity events not listed above? > > DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. > > Don W. > > > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

10. A young underage girl in the family has a male child out of wedlock, and her parents avoid the stigma and impact on the girl's future, by treating the child as their son rather than grandson. This happened in my own family, but with a girl child (even chance it could have been a boy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website > and added a few more below their info: > > Non Paternity > The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to non > paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is > given a surname that differs from his historical surname. > > Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. > > 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's > surname, even though the husband is not the father. > > 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. > > 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. > > 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their > name. > > If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must > work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA > test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when or > what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or > it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it could > be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded > adoption or a common-law marriage. > > My additions: > > 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other > families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother > died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in > school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was not > their son. > > 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is > freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and > respected. > > 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many > people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen > to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match > > 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names > changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with > most of that surname. > > > > Are there more non paternity events not listed above? > > DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. > > Don W. > > > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

After further study I believe that David Kincaid who married Rebecca Osborn is the son of John Kinkead of Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, who I believe to be the John Kinkead of Oxford Township, Chester County, PA and son of John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA.  I believe that the early portion of the history of this Kincaid line in Ben Dixon's book is flawed.  So I took the actual facts and looked at them.  The short timeline below indicates the early record of this line. 1750 John Kinkade, Jr. [000022] born to John Kinkade [000022] & wife Jayne Scott in either Ireland  or Penn. 1761 James Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade & Jayne [000022]  in Ireland. 1765 Hannah Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade [000022] & Jayne Scott in Penn. married David or                 Daniel Johnson. 1768 Nancy Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade & Jayne [000022]  in Penn. married Samuel Kennedy. 1770 Elisabeth Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade [000022] & Jayne Scott in Penn. married David Davis. 1772 James Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade Jr. & Polly Davis in Penn. 1775 David Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade Jr. [000022] & Polly Davis in Penn. 1775 Margaret Kinkade [000022] born to John Kinkade [000022] & Jayne Scott in Penn. 1801 Andrew Kinkade [000022] born in PA, father b PA, mother b NJ, in 1880 Census, in Bethel Township,             Monroe County, OH. USFC, 1880, p. 424C. 1802 Andrew Kinkade [000022] born to David Kinkade [000022] & wife Rebecca Osborn on May 12, 1802 in         Greene County, PA. None of the above births can be confirmed through any bible record or any list from the Pennsylvania Archives. Below is a time line for David Kinkead, son of John Kinkead of Oxford Township, later of Drumore and Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA.  I thought for a short while that David Kinkead in Cumberland Township, Greene County, PA was the son of Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, but there are children in the family older than 5 years old and David, son of Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township was still single in 1805. Andrew Kincaid, son of David Kinkead was born in Penn. in 1801/02 and his father was born in Penn. as Andrew stated in the 1880 Census as did his brother Secrist stated in the 1880 census.  The other Kincaids in Greene County, PA are the sons of Robert Kinkead and Susannah Powell.  Samuel went to Monroe County, OH as did David Kinkead they are both in Greene County in 1810 and then in Monroe County, OH in 1820.  Robert Kinkead, Samuel's brother died in 1815.  As for James Kinkead who married Nancy Taylor I believe he is connected to John Kinkead later of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, the John Kinkead Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, PA. 1770 David Kinkead [000012] born to John Kinkead [000012] & wife Elizabeth McCall in Londonderry                     Township,  Chester County, PA. Extrapolation 1785 John Kinkaid, [000012] Oxford Township, Chester County, PA & his wife, Elizabeth sold to Abraham             Cooper 145  acres for 775 pounds on August 23, 1785, being a tract of land Samuel McCall and his             wife, Sarah of Fawn Township, York County, PA purchased on March 23, 1763, called William Penn’s         Manor in Oxford Township, Chester County, PA. An indenture for this tract of land was made between         Samuel McCall and John Kinkead [000012] on January 1, 1768. Witnesses: John Torbet & William             Porter.  Presented to Joseph Luckey and James Creswell, recorded August 23, 1786. Recorded by             Joseph Luckey. Chester County Archives & Records Service, West Chester, PA, Deed Book, Vol. Q2,             p. 36. 1786 John Kinkead [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA for 100 acres, 2 horses, 2             cows at 2.12.6. Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1787 John Kinked [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA for 200 acres.          Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1787 Samuel Kincade, [000012] freeman, taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA.          Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1788 John Kinked [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA for 40 acres. Lancaster                 County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1789 John Kincaid [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA for 40         acres.  Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1790 John Kenkade, [000012] Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA, 3 males over 16, 1 male under 16,         4 females. USFC, p. 131. 1790 John Kincaid [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA.                  Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA. 1792 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA for 40         acres, 2 horses, 2 cows. Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1792 David Kincaid, [000012] son of John Kinkead, above, taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA         for 1 horse, 3 cows. Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1792 John Kinkead, [000012] Sr., Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA purchased 186 acres in                     Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA containing a merchant, grist, hemp & saw mill from John             Eackman & his wife, Catherine, on February 1, 1792. Lancaster County Office of Records & Archives,         Lancaster, PA 1793 John Kinkaid [000012] & wife, Elizabeth, Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA sold to Joshua             Pusey, London Grove Township, Lancaster County, PA, 186 acres, a plantation containing a merchant,         grist, hemp, & saw mill for 900 pounds lawful money of the State of Pennsylvania, November 4, 1793;             recorded October 28, 1794. Lancaster County Office of Records &  Archives, Lancaster, PA. 1794 John Kinkead [000012] and son, John, [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA.             Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1794 David Kincaid [000012] taxed in Drumore Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County Historical         Society, Lancaster, PA 1797 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA.          Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1797 John Kinkead, [000012] Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA grantee, appointed Justice of the Peace         by Governor Thomas Mifflin, February 20, 1797. Deed Book UU, p. 232. Lancaster County Office of             Records & Archives, Lancaster, PA 1799 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster         County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1800 John Kinkead, [000012] Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, 1 male 26 to 45, 2 males to 10, 1                 female 26-45, 1 female to 10. USFC, microfilm m32-39, p. 249. 1800 John Kinkead, [000012] Esq., Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, 1 male above 45, 1 male 10-16, 1         female above 45, 1 female 16-26, 1 female to 10,. USFC, microfilm m32-39, p. 249. 1800 Daniel (David) Kenkade, [000012] Chillisquaque Township, Northumberland County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 3         males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 10-16. USFC, 117:03.. 1800 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA for 100             acres. Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1800 David Kincaid, [000012] miller, of Chillisquaque Township, Northumberland County, PA bought from             Barnard Hubley, brewer & wife, Elizabeth of Northumberland town, Northumberland County, PA lot #5 in         Milton, Northumberland County, PA for lot #26 on Sandusky St. in Allegheny, Allegheny County, PA              and lot #57 called Magdalena on August 20, 1800.  Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 10-K, p. 94. 1801 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA for 100             acres. Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1804 Jean Kinkade, wife of John Kinkade, [000012] daughter, mentioned in the will of Samuel McClellan of             Colerain Township, Lancaster County, PA, will written October 30, 1804, proved April 8, 1806.                     Lancaster County Will Abstracts. 1807 John Kinkead, [000012] farmer, taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County                 Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1807 John Kinkead, [000012] Esq. taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County                     Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1808 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA.                     Lancaster County Historical Society,  Lancaster, PA 1808 David Kinkead [000012] of Erie County, PA sold to Joseph Caskey of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, PA         lot #114 in Pittsburgh for $210..00 on July 27, 1808. Allegheny County, PA Deed  Book, p. 227. 1808 David Kinkead [000012] of Erie County, PA sold to Samuel Pebbles of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County,             PA lot #139 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, PA for $200.00 on July 28, 1808.  Allegheny County, PA         Deed Book, 15-P, p. 227. 1808 David Kinkead [000012] of Erie County, PA sold to William Montgomery of Pittsburgh, Allegheny                 County, PA lot #26 for $21.00 on July 28, 1808.  Allegheny County, PA Deed Book 15-P, p. 229. 1808 David Kinkead [000012] of Erie County, PA sold to John McClintock of Pittsburgh, Allegheny County,             PA 235 acres for $240.00 in Pittsburgh on August 2, 1808. Deed Book 15-P, p. 231. 1809 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster         County Historical Society,  Lancaster, PA 1809 John Kinkead. [000012] A draught of a tract of land situate in Bart Township in the County of Lancaster         containing 107 acres and one hundred and fifty-two perches and the usual allowance of six percent for         roads &c being part of a larger tract surveyed in pursuance of a warrant bearing date the 26th of March         Anno Domini 1736 granted unto John Patton , surveyed the 28th of July A.D. 1809 for         John Kinkead..  Jacob Hibshman, D.S. To Andrew Porter, Esq. Surveyor General.  Adjacent Land                 Owners: the mine land, James Knox, Jacob Werfel, John Knegey, Samuel Ferree.  Pennsylvania State         Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. C-191, p. 107. Greene County, PA 1810 David Kincade, [000012] Cumberland Township, Greene County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 male 10-15, 1             male under 10, 3 females under 10, 1 female 26-45. USFC, p. 055.  Son of John Kinkead [000012] of             Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. 1810 Robert Kincade, [000005] Jefferson Township, Greene County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 female  under 10, 1         female 16-25, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 048. 1810 Samuel Kincade, [000005], Franklin Township, Greene County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 2 males under 10, ,         1 female 10-16, 1 female 26-45.  USFC, p. 022. 1810 William Kincade, [000005] Jefferson Township, Greene County, PA, 2 males 16-25, 1 male 26-45, 3             females under 10, 1 female 26-45.  USFC, p. 048. 1810 John Kinkead, [000012] Esq., Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 16-26,  3         males 10-16, 1 male under 10, 1 male 16-26,  3 females under 10, 1 female over 45.  USFC, p. 457. 1810 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA.                     Lancaster County Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1811 John Kinkead [000012] & son, John, [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA.                     Lancaster County Historical Society,  Lancaster, PA 1811 John Kinkead, [000012] Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, will written, May 13, 1811,  proved, Nov.         1, 1812.  Wife: Elizabeth; children: David, Elisabeth, Polly, & John; grandson,  Joseph, son of  John             Kinkead & John Rockey, son of Elizabeth Rockey. Lancaster County Will Abstracts. 1813 John Kinkead [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County Historical             Society, Lancaster, PA 1815 Robert Kincaid  [000005] born March 29, 1777 in Hamiltons Bann Township, York County, PA, died             March 17, 1815, age 37 years, 11 months, Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Jefferson, Greene County,         PA. 1815 Robert Kincaid, [000005] will, Greene County, PA Will Book Vol.. 1, p. 147. 1817 John Kinkead [000012] died intestate, Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, the court appointed Jane         Kinkead & Joseph Kinkead administrators of John Kinkead’s estate, April 19, 1817. Lancaster County         Office of Records & Archives, Lancaster, PA, Bond Book B7, p. 427. 1818 Widow (Jane) Kinkead [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County                 Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1818 Joseph Kinkead [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County Historical         Society, Lancaster, PA 1819 Widow (Jane) Kinkead [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County                 Historical Society, Lancaster, PA 1819 Joseph Kinkead [000012] taxed in Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA. Lancaster County                         Historical Society, Lancaster, PA Greene County, PA 1820 William Kincaid, [000005] Esq., Jefferson Township, Greene County, PA, 1 male over 26-45, 1 male 16-        25, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 1 female 16-25, 3 females 10-16, 3 females under 10,  USFC. Lancaster County, PA 1820 Jane Kinkead, [000012] Bart Township, Lancaster County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 male under 10,.1 female         16-25.  USFC. Monroe County, OH 1820 David Kincade, [000022] Center Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, Index, p. 407. 1820 Samuel Kincade, [000005] Jackson Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, Index, p. 407. 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [000005] age 77, born PA, son of Robert Kincaid & Susan Powell, Perry Township,             Monroe County, OH.  USFC, p. 224. 1850 Nancy Kincaid, age 62, born PA, Perry Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, p. 224. 1870 Andrew Kincaid, [000022] age 68, born PA, white, Bethel Township, Monroe County, OH.  USFC, roll             1245, p. 106 1880 Andrew Kinkade, [000022] born 1801, in PA, age 79, white, farmer, widowed, father b PA, mother b NJ,         Bethel Township, Monroe County,  OH, son of David Kinkade & wife Rebecca Osborn. USFC, p. 424C. 1880 Rachel Kinkade, [000022] born 1838, in OH, age 42, white, keeping house, father b PA, mother b OH,         daughter of Andrew Kinkade, Bethel  Township, Monroe County, OH.  USFC, p. 424C. 1880 Douglas P. Kinkade, [000022] born 1864, in OH, age 16, white, at home, father b OH, mother b OH,             grandson of Andrew Kinkade, Bethel Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, p. 424C. 1880 Secrist Kincade, [000022] born 1828, in OH, age 52, white, married, farmer, father b PA, mother b PA,         Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Elizabeth Kincade, born 1835, in IN, age 45, white, keeps house, father b KY, mother b OH, Wife of             Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Henry Kincade, [000022] born 1855, in IN, age 25, white, single, farmer, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Aurilia Kincade, [000022] born 1859, in IL, age 21, white, single, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Beatrice Kincade, [000022] born 1867, in IL, age 13, white, single, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Mabel Kincade, [000022] born 1870, in IL, age 10, white, daughter of Secrict Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 William Kincade, [000022] born 1872, in IL, age 8, white, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL..  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Oscar Kincade, [000022] born 1875, in IL, age 5, white, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Myrtle Kincade, [000022] born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Bessie Kincade, [000022] born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, father b PA, mother b IL, granddaughter of Secrist Kincaide, Essex, Stark County, IL.  USFC, p. 363C.

There were a James and a David Dunseath on the same census page as Andrew Kincaid of Westmoreland County, PA in the 1790 census. I assume this was the same David Dunseath who bought the land in Sherman's Creek from Thomas Kincaid, son of John of Carlisle? Did the county boundary lines change, or did both Andrew Kincaid and David Dunseath move to Westmoreland County? Also, I read the pension files of John Kincaid/Anna Gregory at www.footnote.com. Anna Gregory Kincaid named her children, and they included the Joseph R. Kincaid whose descendant might be (?) the one who gave the DNA sample. Barb Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: <btea93059@tx.rr.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaids of Lancaster County, PA >I almost hate to bring this up.....again.....because I'll be sorry to open >up this can of worms considering how little time I have for this now. But >these Kincaids, Samuel, John, Michael, al seem to be the ones in closest >proximity to the Clingans in my branch. Of course there are some in my >branch convinced that the Thomas married to Hannah Clingan is the same as >the son of the Shopkeeper---but a DNA sample has suggested otherwise. > > Yet the mystery remains that the tested DNA for Thomas/Hannah Clingan is > in Group C, while these others, and now apparently, the Shopkeeper's > family is group A. > > Now niether line has been vested, and I'm fairly sure that the testee for > the Shopkeeper will not present material for this. Other than getting > real birth certificates, I see little to question about his line > (John/Anna Gregory of SC). > > On the other hand, Bill, the testee for my line, his family has an > interesting story, and one that I think bears a much closer look. Because > the circumstantial evidence that my Thomas was of the Shopkeeper of > Carlisle is strong. > > There is another scenario that I have suggested. That Edward Clingan and > his sister Hannah travelled to tennessee BEFORE meeting Thomas Kincaid. > That my Thomas came to America shortly after the War--i.e. after a lot of > the records we look at--and met the Clingans in Tennessee or more > appropriately, that part which was North Carolina. > > There are flaws in the above scenario which I won't take the time to point > out. But the point is that the connection that my line clings to, with > the Clingans of Lancaster and York County can't be reconciled with what we > know about the Kincaids of that area UNLESS somebody's DNA is wrong. > > Bruce > > ---- Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Dear Kincaid-listers, with all of this time on my hands I have had the >> opportunity to make some discoveries and to make some determinations >> concerning some mysterious Kincaids in Pennsylvania. > First is John Kinkead, Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, PA, the first > citation to whom follows. > I now believe that this John Kinkead is the brother of Samuel Kinkead of > Fawn Township, York County, PA, who died in 1779. Samuel mentioned his > property on Petters Creek and that is where John Kinkead ends up. > And his sister Mary Kinkead is the Mary Kinkead of Bedford County, PA. He > is therefore connected to Michael Kinkead of Hamilton Bann's Township, > York County, PA. And is therefore connected to the Kincaids of Sadsbury > and West Caln Townships, Chester County, PA. It is strange that a James > Kincaid & a John > Kincaid are taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA both before and > after the 1790 Census, but they are no where to be found in the Washington > County, PA ennumeration; I went through it column by column and they are > not there. You can follow John Kinkead Jr. by searching on [000003] > Be advised I tried the plain text deal. We'll see how it looks. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > 1769 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, applied > for a warrant to take up 300 acres in Washington County, PA (Cumberland > County, PA in 1769) of new purchase lands, now in Allegheny County, PA, > dated, June 27, 1769, application #3562, New Purchase, warrant #25, > patentee, John Douglas, Nov. 10, 1784, name of tract, Bucks Forest. > Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT > INDEX, P SERIES (P-1 to P-19), 1781- 1794, P. No. 3, July 24, 1784-Sept, > 19, 1785. > > 1779 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will > written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779. Last Will & Testament of > Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May 12, 1779 > > In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health > of body and of sound memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March > in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy six, make > and publish this my last will and testament. In manner following that is > to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land > where it may not hurt the place but most convenient for both places. Next, > I give to my sister Mary [000004] one hundred acres of any place. Next I > give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, > [000004] one hundred acres of my land near Pittsburgh on > Petters Creek. Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my > chattels and goods he > has now in his possesion. And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael > Kinkaid [000004] to be my whole executor of this my last will and > testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this my will contained > and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my > last will and testament set my hand and seal the day and year above > mentioned. > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. > > Samuel Kinkaid [000004] > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > > York County > > Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting > letters of administration in and for the County of York in the > Commonwealth of Pennsylvania personally came Hugh Artens and John Shultz > the two subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrument of writing and > on their solemn oaths in the common form of law do severally and > respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when > the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written > instrument of writing, but do not particularly recollect his signing or > sealing or publishing the same. But he, the said Samuel Kinkead being then > engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they effectively > understood it to be his last will and testament, which he then made before > he would march. That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are > respectively of the said deponents own hand writing and that they > respectively are fully assured that they > would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had > seen the same signed, sealed and published, the further that the said > Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that time of sound and disposing mind > memory and understanding to the best of their knowledge and belief, and > farther that they did sign their names > there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other. > > Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779 > > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > Arch McClean Reg. > Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives > > 1778 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Minton, May 1, 1778, under Colonel Beeler to erect Fort McIntosh to serve > six months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 > 1779 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Zadoch Wright, April 1, 1779, marched to Fort St. Michael in Virginia, to > serve six months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. > 22,345 > 1780 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. James > Mitchell April 1, 1780, marched to James’ Fort, Virginia, to serve six > months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345. > > Washington County, PA > > 1781 John Kinkaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA > for 380 acres, 2 horses, 2 cows, 2 sheep at 254. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 3, vol. 22, p. 758. > 1781 John Kincade taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA for 200 > acres, 1 horse, 1 cow, 3 sheep at 52. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. > 22, p. 774. > 1781 Robert Kinkaid taxed as a single man in Cecil Township, Washington > County, PA, no assessment. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 720. > > Washington County Militia > > 1781 James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, 1781-1783. Inactive Duty Militia. Record > Does Not Prove Active Duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > 1781 James Kinkaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s Company of > Foot, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, commanded by Col. John > Marshal, Sept. 18, 1781. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 131.. > 1781 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Cunningham, April 1, 1781, marched to McKeesport, Pa., to serve seven > months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 > 1781 John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, 1781- 1783. Inactive Duty Militia. Record > Does Not Prove Active Duty.. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > 1781 John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of > Militia, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, Arrangement of > Militia, 1781-1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 28. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., Lancaster County, PA sold land on > Chartiers Creek, Petters Township, Washington County, PA to John Douglas, > Washington County, PA, March 5, 1782. Washington County Court House, > Washington, PA. > See:John Douglas. The above is a draught of a tract of land situate in > Petters Township, Washington County, PA. Surveyed January 12th 1785, in > pursuance of a warrant granted to John Douglas, Esq’r. dated Nov. 5, 1784, > called John Douglass’s Delight, containing 330 acres with 6 percent > allowance for roads. David Redick D.S. John Lukens, Esq. Adjacent land > owners: > John Douglass’s other land. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of > the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. A-75, p. 11. > > Washington County, PA Militia > > 1782 James Kinhead, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Renkon’s Company, 4th > Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of the 4th, 5th, 6th & > 7th Classes, ordered to rendevous May 14th, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, > s. 6, v. 2, p. 143. > 1782 James Cankaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s return of > the 4th and 5th Class, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, Sept. > 4, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 150. > 1782 John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll, > commanded by Col. John Marshal, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA > Militia. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. > 1782 James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll > commanded by Col. John Marshal, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA > Militia.. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. > 1782 John Kincaid [000003] in 7th Class on roll of Capt. Zadok Wright’s > Company of Washington County, PA Militia, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 6, v. 2, p. 28. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s > Company, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of 5th, > 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze, June 14th 1782. Given > Under my hand this 19th day June 1782. Zadok Wright, Capt. Pennsylvania > Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 53, 256. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt.. Zadok Wright’s > Company, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of 6th, > 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze, September 15th, 1782. Given > Under my hand this 23rd day > September 1782. Zadok Wright, Capt. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. > 73. > 1782 Jacob Beam. June 14th 1782, this is to certify that Jacob Beam served > in my company as a soldier commencing May 16th Ending June 14th certified > by me. Zadok Wright. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 42, 256. > 1782 John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, 2nd Company, 7th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, January 8, 1782. Record does not prove > active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > > Washington County, PA Militia > > 1783 John Kincaid, [000003] private, on list of soldiers of the Revolution > who received pay for services for Washington County, PA. Pennsylvania > Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 715. > 1783 John Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > 1783 Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > 1783 Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > > Washington County, PA > > 1784 John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, > PA. Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 John Kincaid taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 Robert Kinkaid, [44937] freeman, taxed in Cecil Township, Washington > County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 Robert Kinkade [4588] married Mary Bowman in Washington County, PA on > December 2, 1784. Pension Application of Mary (Bowman) Kinkade, Hardin > County, KY. > > 1784 John Kincaid, [000003] Washington County, PA Militia received 3 > pounds 17 shillings per certificate #2171 on November 15, 1784. Record > proves active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > > Washington County, PA > > 1785 John Kinkaid taxed in Dickinson Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists.. > 1785 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., grantor to John Douglas, February 7, > 1785, Washington County, PA Chartiers Creek, Grantee Land Index, Book 1B, > p. 31. Westmoreland County Court House, Greensburg, PA > 1785 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, > received a warrant to take up 400 acres in Washington County, PA, now in > Allegheny County, PA, dated, February 17, 1785. Pennsylvania State > Archives > 1785 John Kinkead. [000003] The above is a draught of survey made March > 21, 1785 in pursuance of a warrant granted to John Kinkead dated 17th Feb. > 1785, called Brush Ridge. Containing 400 acres with 6 percent allowance > and is situate in Washington County. David Redeck, D.S. To John Lukens, > Esq’r. S.G. Adjacent land owners: John Reed, Robert Henderson’s Claim, Fry’s > Claim, vacant. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land > Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. L, p. 362. > 1787 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., received a warrant for 100 acres in > Washington County, PA, now in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, > dated, June 1, 1787, patented, June 24, 1799, John Kinkead, 102.88 acres. > Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office > WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning > with K, p. 56. > 1788 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, > patented 400 acres in Washington County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, > date of return, June 24, 1788, warrant, Feb. 17, 1785. Pennsylvania State > Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733- > 1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. > 1788 James Kinkead [000022] on roll of Capt. Thomas Brisland’s Company of > Washington County, PA Militia. History of Washington County, PA, 1882. > 1789 James Kinkaid warranted 200 acres in Washington County, PA, March 3, > 1789. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 26, p. 574:RG-17, Records of the > Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames > beginning with K, p. 57. > 1789 James Kinkaid. A draught of a survey called “Turkey Green” situate in > the waters of Raccoon Creek in Washington County containing 234 acres, 3 > quarters, 25 perches and the usual allowance for roads & executed Apl ye > 18th 1789 in pursuance of a warrant granted to James Kinkaid for 200 acres > dated March ye 3d 1789. Presley Nevill, Mattw. Ritchie, D.S. Jno. Lukens, > Esqu’r. S.G. Adjacent land owners: Hugh Pugh, John Kinkaid, McCullough, > Wm. McConnell, John Stone, Thomas Whitacre. Pennsylvania State Archives, > RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. D-38, p. > 203. > Allegheny County, PA > > 1790 John Kinkead, [000003] Portion taken from Washington County, PA, > Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 16, 1 male under 16, 1 female. USFC, > p.17. > 1791 John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA > at 9.0. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 647. > 1791 John Kinkead [000003] & wife, Elizabeth of Mifflin Township, > Allegheny County, PA sold 88 acres in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, > PA to Christopher Horning adjoining land of George Katz, John Kinkead & > George Mantle; witnesses: Michael Jones & Samuel Jones. April 21, 1791, > recorded June 17, 1791. Allegheny County, PA Deed Books 1 & 2, p. 335. > 1792 John Kinkead [000003] testified for the plaintiff, Nicolas Bausman in > Nicolas Bausman v. William Steward on Sept. 5, 1792 in Allegheny County, > PA. Washington County, PA > > 1793 John Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists > 1793 James Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists > 1794 John Kinkade [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, > PA. General List of the Taxables in Allegheny County, PA by Elizabeth > Wall. > 1795 John Kinkead. [000003] A draught of a tract of land surveyed the 15th > day of July 1795 in pursuance of a warrant bearing the date the day 1st > June 1787 for 100 acres for John Kinkead situate in Mifflin Township and > County of Allegheny. Presley Nevill, D.S. To Daniel Broadhead, Esq’r. > Surveyor General. Adjacent land owners: John Kinkead, Widow Work, James > Torrence, John Reed. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the > Land Office,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681- 1912,Vol. C-114, p. 58. > 1795 John Kinkead [000022] grantor to Joseph Hulten, August 12, 1795, > Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Book 1L, p. 360. Washington County > Court House, Washington, PA > 1795 John Kinkead [000022] & wife, Jean, grantees from Benjamin Wells, > August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County > Court House, Washington, PA > 1795 James Kinkead [000022] & wife, Nancy, grantees from Benjamin Wells, > grantor, August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County Court House, Washington, PA > 1799 John Kinkead [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold > to George Allison of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 2 acres for 5 > shillings in Mifflin Township being part of a tract of 400 acres granted > to John Kinkead by the Supreme Executive Council patent date, July 10, > 1788, on May 7, 1799. Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 10-K, p. 276. > 1799 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., patented 102 acres in Washington County, > PA, now Allegheny County, PA, date of return, January 28, 1799, name of > tract, Farmer’s Hope, warrant June 1, 1787. Pennsylvania State Archives, > RG-17,Records of the Land Office PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-20 to P-35), > 1792-1800, P, No. 34, May 1798-Oct. 1799 p. 158. > 1799 John Kinkead [000003] of Peter’s Creek, Allegheny County, PA had > letters remaining at the Pittsburgh Post Office, Oct. 1, 1799. Pittsburgh > Gazette Abstracts. > 1800 John Kinkaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 2 males > 16-26, 1 male 10-16, 1 male under 10,1 female 26-45, 1 female 10-16. USFC, > 74. > 1800 John Kincaid, Canton Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 2 > males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10. USFC, 18:10. > 1800 John Kincaid, Chartiers Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male over > 45, 1 male 26-45, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10. > USFC, 28:10. > 1803 John Kincaid [000003] appointed with John Finley, John Vernen, Joseph > Wilson, John Wilson, Samuel Kirkpatrick & Philip Yant to make an > evaluation of 235 acres in St. Clair Township, Allegheny County, PA which > belonged to George Caty, deceased, November 1803. > Allegheny County, PA, Orphan’s Court Docket I, 1789-1820, p. 85. > 1810 John Kinkade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male > over 45, 1 male 16-26, 1 female 10-16, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 157. > 1810 John Kinkade, Indiana Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 > male under 10, 1 female 10- 15, 26-45. USFC, p. 313. > 1817 John Kincaid [000003] mentioned as adjoining land owner to Major > Abraham Kirkpatrick, deceased, who owned a tract of land in St. Clair > Township, Allegheny County, PA called “Coal Hill Plantation” containing > 235 acres, November,1817. Allegheny County, PA Orphan’s Court Docket I, > 1789-1820, p. 285. > 1819 John Kinkaid [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA & > William Carrel of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, executors of the > will of William Reed, deseased of Mifflin Township sold to Henry Roads of > Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 401 ¾ acres called Tabermore > conveyed to William Reed by patent dated November 6, 1802, for $1700.86 on > April 23, 1818. Allegheny County Deed Book 27-2B, p. 89. > 1830 John Kincade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. USFC. > 1831 John Kincaid, [000003] private, of Allegheny County, PA age 86, > received $80.00 per year pension for service during the Revolutionary War, > sums received $200.00. Commencement of pension March 4, 1831. > Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts. > 1833 John Kincaid, [000003] of Jefferson Township, Allegheny County, > Pennsylvania > John Kincaid, Penn. S. 22,345 > > 22.660 > Pittsburgh Penn. > John Kincaid, Pittsburgh in the State of Penn. was a Private in the Co. > commanded by Captain Minton of the Regt. commanded > by Col. Beelor in the Penn. Line for two years. > Inscribed on the Roll of Penn. Pittsburgh at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 > cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831. > Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to E. > Simpson, Pittsburgh, Penn. > Arrears to the 4th of September, 1833 $200.00 > ? allowance ending 4 March 1834 40.00 > 240.00 > Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 > Recorded by Wm. ? Palmer, Clerk > Book E, Vol. five, page 82 > > War Department > Pension Office > 15th Nov. 1833 > Sir > The evidence in support of your ? and the act of June 7, 1832, has been > examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a > statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with > the following rules and the subscribed notes you will readily perceive > that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be > allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be > done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, > you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus }). You will, when > you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with > the, and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the > investigation of your claim. > A Statement, showing the Service of John Kincaid > Period of Service Duration Rank Name & Rank of Field officers age at > present > 1 May 1778 6 months Prvt. Capt. Minton 85 years, Pa. > Capt. Beeler > 1 May 1779 6 months Prvt. Capt. Wright > 1 May 1780 6 months Prvt. Capt. Cox > Capt. Mitchel > 1 May 1781 7 months Prvt. Cunningham > > I am, respectfully, > Your obedient servant > J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions > > 1833 John Kincaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, was a native of > Lancaster County, PA, private in a company of artificers in the erection > of Ft. McIntosh, died Nov. 16, 1833 leaving 2 daughters: Elizabeth Duncan > & Hannah Torrence. Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There could also be a complete break in family relations as a result of bad feelings or illegal acts that could cause some members of the family to disown the rest of the family and change their name to make a complete break and start anew.  I know a young woman who did just that and changed her first name and last name, in other words bury her past as best she could and start over with her children in a new location. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis House <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:08:33 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list 10. A young underage girl in the family has a male child out of wedlock, and her parents avoid the stigma and impact on the girl's future, by treating the child as their son rather than grandson. This happened in my own family, but with a girl child (even chance it could have been a boy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Non Paternity events list > We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website > and added a few more below their info: > > Non Paternity > The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to non > paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is > given a surname that differs from his historical surname. > > Non Paternity Events > 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. > > 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's > surname, even though the husband is not the father. > > 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. > > 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. > > 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their > name. > > If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must > work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA > test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when or > what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or > it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it could > be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded > adoption or a common-law marriage. > > My additions: > > 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other > families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother > died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in > school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was not > their son. > > 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is > freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and > respected. > > 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many > people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen > to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match > > 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names > changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with > most of that surname. > > > > Are there more non paternity events not listed above? > > DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. > > Don W. > > > > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I almost hate to bring this up.....again.....because I'll be sorry to open up this can of worms considering how little time I have for this now. But these Kincaids, Samuel, John, Michael, al seem to be the ones in closest proximity to the Clingans in my branch. Of course there are some in my branch convinced that the Thomas married to Hannah Clingan is the same as the son of the Shopkeeper---but a DNA sample has suggested otherwise. Yet the mystery remains that the tested DNA for Thomas/Hannah Clingan is in Group C, while these others, and now apparently, the Shopkeeper's family is group A. Now niether line has been vested, and I'm fairly sure that the testee for the Shopkeeper will not present material for this. Other than getting real birth certificates, I see little to question about his line (John/Anna Gregory of SC). On the other hand, Bill, the testee for my line, his family has an interesting story, and one that I think bears a much closer look. Because the circumstantial evidence that my Thomas was of the Shopkeeper of Carlisle is strong. There is another scenario that I have suggested. That Edward Clingan and his sister Hannah travelled to tennessee BEFORE meeting Thomas Kincaid. That my Thomas came to America shortly after the War--i.e. after a lot of the records we look at--and met the Clingans in Tennessee or more appropriately, that part which was North Carolina. There are flaws in the above scenario which I won't take the time to point out. But the point is that the connection that my line clings to, with the Clingans of Lancaster and York County can't be reconciled with what we know about the Kincaids of that area UNLESS somebody's DNA is wrong. Bruce ---- Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear Kincaid-listers, with all of this time on my hands I have had the opportunity to make some discoveries             and to make some determinations concerning some mysterious Kincaids in Pennsylvania.         First is John Kinkead, Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, PA, the first citation to whom follows. I now believe that this John Kinkead is the brother of Samuel Kinkead of Fawn Township, York County, PA, who died in 1779.  Samuel mentioned his property on Petters Creek and that is where John Kinkead ends up. And his sister Mary Kinkead is the Mary Kinkead of Bedford County, PA.  He is therefore connected to Michael Kinkead of Hamilton Bann's Township, York County, PA.  And is therefore connected to the Kincaids of Sadsbury and West Caln Townships, Chester County, PA.  It is strange that a James Kincaid & a John Kincaid are taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA both before and after the 1790 Census, but they are no where to be found in the Washington County, PA ennumeration; I went through it column by column and they are not there.  You can follow John Kinkead Jr. by searching on [000003] Be advised I tried the plain text deal.  We'll see how it looks. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1769       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, applied for a warrant to take up                         300 acres in  Washington County, PA (Cumberland County, PA in 1769) of new purchase lands,                 now in Allegheny County, PA, dated, June 27, 1769, application #3562, New Purchase, warrant                     #25, patentee, John Douglas, Nov. 10, 1784, name of tract, Bucks Forest. Pennsylvania State                     Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-1 to P-19), 1781-                    1794, P. No. 3, July 24, 1784-Sept, 19, 1785. 1779       Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will written March 26, 1776, proved             April 30, 1779. Last Will & Testament of Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May             12, 1779                          In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health of body and of                 sound memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one                             thousand seven hundred and seventy six, make and publish this my last will and testament.  In                     manner following that is to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land                         where it may not hurt the place but most convenient for both places.  Next, I give to my sister                     Mary [000004] one hundred acres of any place.  Next I give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid,                             [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, [000004] one hundred acres of my land near Pittsburgh  on                         Petters Creek.  Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my chattels and goods he                    has now in his possesion.  And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] to be                 my whole executor of this my last will and testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this                 my will contained and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my last                 will and testament set my hand and seal the day and year above mentioned.                          Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us.               Samuel Kinkaid [000004]             Hugh Artens             John Shultz               York County                            Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting letters of                                 administration in and for the County of York in the Commonwealth of  Pennsylvania                                     personally came Hugh Artens and John Shultz the two subscribing witnesses to the                                     foregoing instrument of writing and on their solemn oaths in the common form of law do                                 severally and respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when                         the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written instrument of writing,                         but do not particularly recollect his signing or sealing or publishing the same.  But he, the                             said Samuel Kinkead being then engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they                                 effectively understood it to be his last will and testament, which he then made before he                             would march.  That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are respectively of the said                             deponents own hand writing and that they respectively are fully assured that they                         would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had seen the same                             signed, sealed and published, the further that the said Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that                         time of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding to the best of their                                         knowledge and belief, and farther that they did sign their names                         there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other.               Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779   Hugh Artens John Shultz Arch McClean Reg. Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives   1778       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. Minton, May 1, 1778, under Colonel                 Beeler to erect Fort McIntosh to serve six months.  War Department Pension Application of John                 Kincaid, S. 22,345 1779       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. Zadoch Wright, April 1,                                     1779,  marched to Fort St. Michael in  Virginia, to serve six months.  War Department Pension                     Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 1780       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. James Mitchell April 1, 1780,                             marched to James’ Fort, Virginia, to serve six months.  War Department Pension Application of                     John Kincaid, S. 22,345.   Washington County, PA   1781       John Kinkaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA for 380 acres, 2 horses,             2 cows, 2 sheep at 254.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 758. 1781    John Kincade taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA  for 200 acres, 1 horse, 1 cow, 3                 sheep at 52.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 774. 1781    Robert Kinkaid taxed as a single man in Cecil Township, Washington County, PA, no assessment.              Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 720.   Washington County Militia   1781       James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia,                     1781-1783.  Inactive Duty Militia.  Record Does Not Prove Active Duty.  Pennsylvania State                         Archives Online Card File 1781       James Kinkaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s Company of Foot, 4th Battalion,                             Washington County, PA Militia,  commanded by Col. John Marshal, Sept. 18, 1781.                                  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 131.. 1781       John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. Cunningham, April 1, 1781, marched                 to McKeesport, Pa., to serve seven months.   War Department Pension Application of John                         Kincaid, S. 22,345 1781       John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, 1781-                1783.  Inactive Duty Militia.   Record Does Not Prove Active Duty..  Pennsylvania State Archives                     Online Card File 1781       John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of Militia, 2nd Battalion,                                 Washington County, PA Militia,  Arrangement of Militia, 1781-1782.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6,                 vol. 2, p. 28. 1782       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., Lancaster County, PA sold land on Chartiers Creek, Petters Township,                 Washington County, PA to John Douglas, Washington County, PA, March 5, 1782. Washington                 County Court House, Washington, PA.                   See:John Douglas.  The above is a draught of a tract of land situate in Petters Township,                             Washington County, PA.  Surveyed January 12th 1785, in pursuance of a warrant granted to John                 Douglas, Esq’r. dated Nov. 5, 1784, called John Douglass’s Delight, containing 330 acres with 6                 percent allowance for roads.  David Redick D.S.  John Lukens, Esq.  Adjacent land owners:                 John Douglass’s other land.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office,                     COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. A-75, p. 11.   Washington County, PA Militia   1782       James Kinhead, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Renkon’s Company, 4th Battalion, Washington                 County, PA Militia,   A return of the 4th, 5th, 6th & 7th Classes, ordered to rendevous May 14th,                 1782.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 143. 1782       James Cankaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s return of the 4th and 5th Class, 4th                 Battalion, Washington  County, PA Militia, Sept. 4, 1782.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 150. 1782       John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll, commanded by Col. John Marshal,             4th  Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. 1782       James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll commanded by Col. John                             Marshal, 4th  Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia..  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. 1782       John Kincaid [000003] in 7th Class on roll of Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of Washington County,                 PA Militia, 1782.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 28. 1782       John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company, 2nd Battalion,                             Washington County, PA Militia,  A return of 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze,                 June 14th 1782.  Given Under my hand this 19th day June 1782.  Zadok Wright, Capt.                                  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 53, 256. 1782       John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt.. Zadok Wright’s Company, 2nd Battalion,                             Washington County, PA Militia,   A return of 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to                                         rendevouze,  September 15th, 1782.  Given Under my hand this 23rd day                 September 1782.  Zadok Wright, Capt.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 73. 1782       Jacob Beam.  June 14th 1782, this is to certify that Jacob Beam served in my company as a                         soldier commencing May 16th Ending June 14th certified by me.  Zadok Wright.  Pennsylvania                     Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 42, 256. 1782       John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, 2nd Company, 7th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia,                         January 8, 1782. Record does not prove active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File   Washington County, PA Militia   1783       John Kincaid, [000003] private, on list of soldiers of the Revolution who received pay for services for             Washington County, PA.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 715. 1783       John Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA Militia who received depreciation             pay.    Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 407. 1783       Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA Militia who received                                 depreciation pay.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 407. 1783       Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA Militia who received                             depreciation pay.    Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 407.   Washington County, PA   1784       John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA                 Tax Lists. 1784       John Kincaid taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax                         Lists. 1784       Robert Kinkaid, [44937] freeman, taxed in Cecil Township, Washington County, PA. Washington                     County, PA Tax Lists. 1784       Robert Kinkade [4588] married Mary Bowman in Washington County, PA on December 2, 1784.                  Pension Application of   Mary (Bowman) Kinkade, Hardin County, KY.   1784       John Kincaid, [000003] Washington County, PA Militia received 3 pounds 17 shillings per certificate             #2171 on November 15, 1784. Record proves active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card             File   Washington County, PA   1785       John Kinkaid taxed in Dickinson Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax                 Lists.. 1785       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., grantor to John Douglas, February 7, 1785, Washington County, PA                 Chartiers Creek, Grantee Land Index, Book 1B, p. 31. Westmoreland County Court House,                         Greensburg, PA 1785       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, received a warrant to take up 400                     acres in Washington County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, dated, February 17, 1785.                         Pennsylvania State Archives 1785       John Kinkead.  [000003] The above is a draught of survey made March 21, 1785 in pursuance of a                 warrant granted to John Kinkead dated 17th Feb. 1785, called Brush Ridge.  Containing 400 acres                 with 6 percent allowance and is situate in Washington County. David Redeck, D.S.  To John                         Lukens, Esq’r.  S.G.  Adjacent land owners: John Reed, Robert Henderson’s Claim, Fry’s Claim,                 vacant.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED SURVEYS,                     1681-1912, Vol. L, p. 362. 1787       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., received a warrant for 100 acres in Washington County, PA, now in                     Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, dated, June 1, 1787, patented, June 24, 1799, John                         Kinkead, 102.88 acres. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office                 WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. 1788       John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, patented 400 acres in Washington                 County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, date of return, June 24, 1788, warrant, Feb. 17, 1785.                 Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-                1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. 1788       James Kinkead [000022] on roll of Capt. Thomas Brisland’s Company of Washington County, PA                     Militia.  History of Washington County, PA, 1882. 1789       James Kinkaid warranted 200 acres in Washington County, PA, March 3, 1789. Pennsylvania                     Archives, s. 3, v. 26, p. 574:RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957,             Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 57. 1789       James Kinkaid.  A draught of a survey called “Turkey Green” situate in the waters of Raccoon Creek                 in Washington County containing 234 acres, 3 quarters, 25 perches and the usual allowance for                     roads & executed Apl ye 18th 1789 in pursuance of a warrant granted to James Kinkaid for 200                     acres dated March ye 3d 1789.  Presley Nevill, Mattw. Ritchie, D.S. Jno. Lukens, Esqu’r. S.G.                      Adjacent land owners: Hugh Pugh, John Kinkaid, McCullough, Wm. McConnell, John Stone,                         Thomas Whitacre.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED                     SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. D-38, p. 203.  Allegheny County, PA   1790       John Kinkead, [000003] Portion taken from Washington County, PA, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male                 over 16, 1 male under 16, 1 female. USFC, p.17. 1791       John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA at 9.0. Pennsylvania                         Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 647. 1791       John Kinkead [000003] & wife, Elizabeth of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold 88 acres in                 Mifflin Township, Allegheny  County, PA to Christopher Horning adjoining land of George Katz,                     John Kinkead & George Mantle; witnesses: Michael Jones &  Samuel Jones. April 21, 1791,                         recorded June 17, 1791. Allegheny County, PA Deed Books 1 & 2, p. 335. 1792       John Kinkead [000003] testified for the plaintiff, Nicolas Bausman in Nicolas Bausman v. William                     Steward on Sept. 5, 1792 in Allegheny County, PA.  Washington County, PA   1793       John Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County, PA             Tax Lists 1793       James Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County,                 PA Tax Lists 1794       John Kinkade [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. General List of the                             Taxables in Allegheny  County, PA by Elizabeth Wall. 1795       John Kinkead.  [000003] A draught of a tract of land surveyed the 15th day of July 1795 in                         pursuance of a warrant bearing the date the day  1st June 1787 for 100 acres for John Kinkead                     situate in Mifflin Township and County of Allegheny.  Presley Nevill, D.S.   To Daniel Broadhead,                 Esq’r. Surveyor General.  Adjacent land owners: John Kinkead, Widow Work, James Torrence, John             Reed.  Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-            1912,Vol. C-114, p. 58. 1795       John Kinkead [000022] grantor to Joseph Hulten, August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington                 County, PA. Book 1L, p. 360.   Washington County Court House, Washington, PA 1795       John Kinkead [000022] & wife, Jean, grantees from Benjamin Wells, August 12, 1795, Smith                     Township, Washington County, PA.   Washington County Court House, Washington, PA 1795       James Kinkead [000022] & wife, Nancy, grantees from Benjamin Wells, grantor, August 12, 1795,             Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County Court House, Washington, PA 1799    John Kinkead [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold to George Allison of Mifflin                 Township, Allegheny County, PA  2 acres for 5 shillings in Mifflin Township being part of a tract of                 400 acres granted to John Kinkead by the Supreme Executive Council patent date, July 10, 1788, on             May 7, 1799. Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 10-K, p. 276. 1799    John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., patented 102 acres in Washington County, PA, now Allegheny County,             PA, date of return, January 28, 1799, name of tract, Farmer’s Hope, warrant June 1, 1787.                          Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-20 to             P-35), 1792-1800, P, No. 34, May 1798-Oct. 1799 p. 158. 1799    John Kinkead [000003] of Peter’s Creek, Allegheny County, PA had letters remaining at the                         Pittsburgh Post Office, Oct. 1, 1799. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. 1800    John Kinkaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 2 males 16-26, 1 male 10-16, 1 male             under 10,1 female 26-45, 1 female 10-16. USFC, 74. 1800       John Kincaid, Canton Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 2 males under 10, 1                     female 26-45, 2 females under 10. USFC, 18:10. 1800       John Kincaid, Chartiers Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 26-45, 2 males                 under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10.  USFC, 28:10. 1803       John Kincaid [000003] appointed with John Finley, John Vernen, Joseph Wilson, John Wilson,                     Samuel Kirkpatrick & Philip Yant to make an evaluation of 235 acres in St. Clair Township, Allegheny             County, PA which belonged to George Caty, deceased, November 1803.            Allegheny County, PA, Orphan’s Court Docket I, 1789-1820, p. 85. 1810       John Kinkade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 16-26, 1                 female 10-16, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 157. 1810    John Kinkade, Indiana Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 male under 10, 1 female 10-            15, 26-45. USFC, p. 313. 1817       John Kincaid [000003] mentioned as adjoining land owner to Major Abraham Kirkpatrick, deceased,             who owned a tract of land in St. Clair Township, Allegheny County, PA called “Coal Hill Plantation”                 containing 235 acres, November,1817. Allegheny County, PA Orphan’s Court   Docket I, 1789-1820,             p. 285. 1819       John Kinkaid [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA & William Carrel of Mifflin                         Township, Allegheny County, PA, executors of the will of William Reed, deseased of Mifflin Township             sold to Henry Roads of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 401 ¾ acres   called   Tabermore                 conveyed to William Reed by patent dated November 6, 1802, for $1700.86 on April 23, 1818.                     Allegheny County Deed Book 27-2B, p. 89. 1830       John Kincade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. USFC. 1831       John Kincaid, [000003] private, of Allegheny County, PA age 86, received $80.00 per year pension             for service during the Revolutionary  War, sums received $200.00. Commencement of pension March             4, 1831.  Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts. 1833       John Kincaid, [000003] of Jefferson Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania             John Kincaid, Penn. S. 22,345   22.660 Pittsburgh Penn. John Kincaid, Pittsburgh in the State of Penn. was a Private in the Co. commanded by Captain Minton of the Regt. commanded by Col. Beelor in the Penn. Line for two years. Inscribed on the Roll of Penn. Pittsburgh at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831. Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to E. Simpson, Pittsburgh, Penn. Arrears to the 4th of September, 1833 $200.00 ?  allowance ending 4 March 1834          40.00                                                                          240.00 Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 Recorded by Wm. ? Palmer, Clerk Book E, Vol. five, page 82   War Department Pension Office 15th Nov. 1833 Sir                         The evidence in support of your ? and the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned.  The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form.  On comparing these papers with the following rules and the subscribed notes you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be allowed.  The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done.  Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus }).  You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with the, and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim. A Statement, showing the Service of John Kincaid Period of Service          Duration           Rank    Name & Rank of Field officers             age at present 1 May 1778                 6 months          Prvt.     Capt. Minton                                        85 years, Pa.                                                                                     Capt. Beeler 1 May 1779                 6 months          Prvt.     Capt. Wright    1 May 1780                 6 months          Prvt.     Capt. Cox                                                                                     Capt. Mitchel 1 May 1781                 7 months          Prvt.     Cunningham   I am, respectfully, Your obedient servant J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions   1833       John Kincaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, was a native of Lancaster County, PA, private in a                 company of artificers in the erection of    Ft. McIntosh, died Nov. 16, 1833 leaving 2 daughters: Elizabeth Duncan & Hannah Torrence. Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We took the below instances of non paternity events from DNA Kin website and added a few more below their info: Non Paternity The study of DNA for genealogical purposes often leads researchers to non paternity events. A non paternity event is an event where a person is given a surname that differs from his historical surname. Non Paternity Events 1. An illegitimate male child to a single woman takes her surname. 2. An illegitimate male child to a married woman takes the husband's surname, even though the husband is not the father. 3. Male members of a family take the name of a female member. 4. Children adopt a step-parent's name. 5. A child is adopted into a completely unrelated family and takes their name. If a non paternity event has occurred in the past, the genealogist must work back through the public records to determine what happened. A DNA test that reveals there was a non paternity event cannot tell you when or what that event was. Unfortunately, the event could be close in time, or it could be in distant years before records are available. Also, it could be an unrecorded event in a recent time period, like an unrecorded adoption or a common-law marriage. My additions: 6. children who have lost their mother and are farmed out to other families wind up taking their name. One of my 1st cousins whose mother died when he was around 1 year old lived with a family and enrolled in school using their surname, finally discovering at age 12 that he was not their son. 7. One other instance which might apply to a lot of black Kincaid's is freed slaves taking the surname of their master or someone they knew and respected. 8. Back in the days when it first became popular to have a surname, many people likely chose a name they liked and if 2 unrelated families happen to choose the same surname, their DNA would not match 9. A few people have successfully petitioned a court to have their names changed to a surname of their choosing and thus would not match DNA with most of that surname. Are there more non paternity events not listed above? DNA is a very exact science according to everything I read. Don W.

For those interested here is what I copied about John Kincaid's Rev. War Pension. We have reproduced below a letter written by the Commissioner (assume the National Archives) to Robert M. Kincaid, 509 South St., Gastonia, N. C. on November 27, 1923 Madam: (Copyist does not know why it is addressed Madam) I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War Pension claim W. 12029 it appears that John Kincaid was born August 9, 1749 in Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. In 1772 he moved to York County, South Carolina where he enlisted and served as a private, Lieutenant and Captain in the South Caroline Troops at various times between 1777 and 1781 amounting to twenty-three months, under Major Wallis, Colonels Neal, Watson, Bratton, Graham and Campbell and General Sumpter and was in the battles of Rocky Mount and Kings Mountain. He was allowed pension on his application executed November 4, 1832 while a resident of Lincoln County, North Carolina. He died August 10, 1836 or 1837. Soldier married September 10, 1817 in York District, South Carolina, Anna Gregory born May 25, 1793 and who was allowed pension on her application executed April 1, 1853 while a resident of Chester District, South Carolina. She died September 17, 1868. Their children were: Margaret Elizabeth Dods born December 7 1818, married James W. Henderson. John Adams………………….. “ February 22, 1821. Susanna Martha..………….. “ February 31, 1833, married …….Johnston. (Date has to be a mistake) William Thomson………… “ December 24, 1824. Joseph Robert………………. “ August 31, 1838. The above children all survived their mother excepting John Adams. Respectfully, Commissioner DWK note: the above letter contains the essential info from John’s pension application. Identical info on John Kincaid was later sent to Mrs. John F. Brisbin who had inquired about him. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaids of Lancaster County, PA There were a James and a David Dunseath on the same census page as Andrew Kincaid of Westmoreland County, PA in the 1790 census. I assume this was the same David Dunseath who bought the land in Sherman's Creek from Thomas Kincaid, son of John of Carlisle? Did the county boundary lines change, or did both Andrew Kincaid and David Dunseath move to Westmoreland County? Also, I read the pension files of John Kincaid/Anna Gregory at www.footnote.com. Anna Gregory Kincaid named her children, and they included the Joseph R. Kincaid whose descendant might be (?) the one who gave the DNA sample. Barb Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: <btea93059@tx.rr.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaids of Lancaster County, PA >I almost hate to bring this up.....again.....because I'll be sorry to open >up this can of worms considering how little time I have for this now. But >these Kincaids, Samuel, John, Michael, al seem to be the ones in closest >proximity to the Clingans in my branch. Of course there are some in my >branch convinced that the Thomas married to Hannah Clingan is the same as >the son of the Shopkeeper---but a DNA sample has suggested otherwise. > > Yet the mystery remains that the tested DNA for Thomas/Hannah Clingan is > in Group C, while these others, and now apparently, the Shopkeeper's > family is group A. > > Now niether line has been vested, and I'm fairly sure that the testee for > the Shopkeeper will not present material for this. Other than getting > real birth certificates, I see little to question about his line > (John/Anna Gregory of SC). > > On the other hand, Bill, the testee for my line, his family has an > interesting story, and one that I think bears a much closer look. Because > the circumstantial evidence that my Thomas was of the Shopkeeper of > Carlisle is strong. > > There is another scenario that I have suggested. That Edward Clingan and > his sister Hannah travelled to tennessee BEFORE meeting Thomas Kincaid. > That my Thomas came to America shortly after the War--i.e. after a lot of > the records we look at--and met the Clingans in Tennessee or more > appropriately, that part which was North Carolina. > > There are flaws in the above scenario which I won't take the time to point > out. But the point is that the connection that my line clings to, with > the Clingans of Lancaster and York County can't be reconciled with what we > know about the Kincaids of that area UNLESS somebody's DNA is wrong. > > Bruce > > ---- Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Dear Kincaid-listers, with all of this time on my hands I have had the >> opportunity to make some discoveries and to make some determinations >> concerning some mysterious Kincaids in Pennsylvania. > First is John Kinkead, Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, PA, the first > citation to whom follows. > I now believe that this John Kinkead is the brother of Samuel Kinkead of > Fawn Township, York County, PA, who died in 1779. Samuel mentioned his > property on Petters Creek and that is where John Kinkead ends up. > And his sister Mary Kinkead is the Mary Kinkead of Bedford County, PA. He > is therefore connected to Michael Kinkead of Hamilton Bann's Township, > York County, PA. And is therefore connected to the Kincaids of Sadsbury > and West Caln Townships, Chester County, PA. It is strange that a James > Kincaid & a John > Kincaid are taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA both before and > after the 1790 Census, but they are no where to be found in the Washington > County, PA ennumeration; I went through it column by column and they are > not there. You can follow John Kinkead Jr. by searching on [000003] > Be advised I tried the plain text deal. We'll see how it looks. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > 1769 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, applied > for a warrant to take up 300 acres in Washington County, PA (Cumberland > County, PA in 1769) of new purchase lands, now in Allegheny County, PA, > dated, June 27, 1769, application #3562, New Purchase, warrant #25, > patentee, John Douglas, Nov. 10, 1784, name of tract, Bucks Forest. > Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT > INDEX, P SERIES (P-1 to P-19), 1781- 1794, P. No. 3, July 24, 1784-Sept, > 19, 1785. > > 1779 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will > written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779. Last Will & Testament of > Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May 12, 1779 > > In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health > of body and of sound memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March > in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy six, make > and publish this my last will and testament. In manner following that is > to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land > where it may not hurt the place but most convenient for both places. Next, > I give to my sister Mary [000004] one hundred acres of any place. Next I > give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, > [000004] one hundred acres of my land near Pittsburgh on > Petters Creek. Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my > chattels and goods he > has now in his possesion. And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael > Kinkaid [000004] to be my whole executor of this my last will and > testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this my will contained > and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my > last will and testament set my hand and seal the day and year above > mentioned. > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. > > Samuel Kinkaid [000004] > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > > York County > > Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting > letters of administration in and for the County of York in the > Commonwealth of Pennsylvania personally came Hugh Artens and John Shultz > the two subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrument of writing and > on their solemn oaths in the common form of law do severally and > respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when > the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written > instrument of writing, but do not particularly recollect his signing or > sealing or publishing the same. But he, the said Samuel Kinkead being then > engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they effectively > understood it to be his last will and testament, which he then made before > he would march. That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are > respectively of the said deponents own hand writing and that they > respectively are fully assured that they > would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had > seen the same signed, sealed and published, the further that the said > Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that time of sound and disposing mind > memory and understanding to the best of their knowledge and belief, and > farther that they did sign their names > there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other. > > Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779 > > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > Arch McClean Reg. > Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives > > 1778 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Minton, May 1, 1778, under Colonel Beeler to erect Fort McIntosh to serve > six months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 > 1779 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Zadoch Wright, April 1, 1779, marched to Fort St. Michael in Virginia, to > serve six months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. > 22,345 > 1780 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. James > Mitchell April 1, 1780, marched to James’ Fort, Virginia, to serve six > months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345. > > Washington County, PA > > 1781 John Kinkaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA > for 380 acres, 2 horses, 2 cows, 2 sheep at 254. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 3, vol. 22, p. 758. > 1781 John Kincade taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA for 200 > acres, 1 horse, 1 cow, 3 sheep at 52. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. > 22, p. 774. > 1781 Robert Kinkaid taxed as a single man in Cecil Township, Washington > County, PA, no assessment. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 720. > > Washington County Militia > > 1781 James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, 1781-1783. Inactive Duty Militia. Record > Does Not Prove Active Duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > 1781 James Kinkaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s Company of > Foot, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, commanded by Col. John > Marshal, Sept. 18, 1781. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 131.. > 1781 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Cunningham, April 1, 1781, marched to McKeesport, Pa., to serve seven > months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 > 1781 John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, 1781- 1783. Inactive Duty Militia. Record > Does Not Prove Active Duty.. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > 1781 John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of > Militia, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, Arrangement of > Militia, 1781-1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 28. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., Lancaster County, PA sold land on > Chartiers Creek, Petters Township, Washington County, PA to John Douglas, > Washington County, PA, March 5, 1782. Washington County Court House, > Washington, PA. > See:John Douglas. The above is a draught of a tract of land situate in > Petters Township, Washington County, PA. Surveyed January 12th 1785, in > pursuance of a warrant granted to John Douglas, Esq’r. dated Nov. 5, 1784, > called John Douglass’s Delight, containing 330 acres with 6 percent > allowance for roads. David Redick D.S. John Lukens, Esq. Adjacent land > owners: > John Douglass’s other land. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of > the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. A-75, p. 11. > > Washington County, PA Militia > > 1782 James Kinhead, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Renkon’s Company, 4th > Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of the 4th, 5th, 6th & > 7th Classes, ordered to rendevous May 14th, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, > s. 6, v. 2, p. 143. > 1782 James Cankaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s return of > the 4th and 5th Class, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, Sept. > 4, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 150. > 1782 John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll, > commanded by Col. John Marshal, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA > Militia. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. > 1782 James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll > commanded by Col. John Marshal, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA > Militia.. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. > 1782 John Kincaid [000003] in 7th Class on roll of Capt. Zadok Wright’s > Company of Washington County, PA Militia, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 6, v. 2, p. 28. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s > Company, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of 5th, > 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze, June 14th 1782. Given > Under my hand this 19th day June 1782. Zadok Wright, Capt. Pennsylvania > Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 53, 256. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt.. Zadok Wright’s > Company, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of 6th, > 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze, September 15th, 1782. Given > Under my hand this 23rd day > September 1782. Zadok Wright, Capt. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. > 73. > 1782 Jacob Beam. June 14th 1782, this is to certify that Jacob Beam served > in my company as a soldier commencing May 16th Ending June 14th certified > by me. Zadok Wright. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 42, 256. > 1782 John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, 2nd Company, 7th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, January 8, 1782. Record does not prove > active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > > Washington County, PA Militia > > 1783 John Kincaid, [000003] private, on list of soldiers of the Revolution > who received pay for services for Washington County, PA. Pennsylvania > Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 715. > 1783 John Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > 1783 Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > 1783 Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > > Washington County, PA > > 1784 John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, > PA. Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 John Kincaid taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 Robert Kinkaid, [44937] freeman, taxed in Cecil Township, Washington > County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 Robert Kinkade [4588] married Mary Bowman in Washington County, PA on > December 2, 1784. Pension Application of Mary (Bowman) Kinkade, Hardin > County, KY. > > 1784 John Kincaid, [000003] Washington County, PA Militia received 3 > pounds 17 shillings per certificate #2171 on November 15, 1784. Record > proves active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > > Washington County, PA > > 1785 John Kinkaid taxed in Dickinson Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists.. > 1785 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., grantor to John Douglas, February 7, > 1785, Washington County, PA Chartiers Creek, Grantee Land Index, Book 1B, > p. 31. Westmoreland County Court House, Greensburg, PA > 1785 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, > received a warrant to take up 400 acres in Washington County, PA, now in > Allegheny County, PA, dated, February 17, 1785. Pennsylvania State > Archives > 1785 John Kinkead. [000003] The above is a draught of survey made March > 21, 1785 in pursuance of a warrant granted to John Kinkead dated 17th Feb. > 1785, called Brush Ridge. Containing 400 acres with 6 percent allowance > and is situate in Washington County. David Redeck, D.S. To John Lukens, > Esq’r. S.G. Adjacent land owners: John Reed, Robert Henderson’s Claim, Fry’s > Claim, vacant. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land > Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. L, p. 362. > 1787 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., received a warrant for 100 acres in > Washington County, PA, now in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, > dated, June 1, 1787, patented, June 24, 1799, John Kinkead, 102.88 acres. > Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office > WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning > with K, p. 56. > 1788 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, > patented 400 acres in Washington County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, > date of return, June 24, 1788, warrant, Feb. 17, 1785. Pennsylvania State > Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733- > 1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. > 1788 James Kinkead [000022] on roll of Capt. Thomas Brisland’s Company of > Washington County, PA Militia. History of Washington County, PA, 1882. > 1789 James Kinkaid warranted 200 acres in Washington County, PA, March 3, > 1789. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 26, p. 574:RG-17, Records of the > Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames > beginning with K, p. 57. > 1789 James Kinkaid. A draught of a survey called “Turkey Green” situate in > the waters of Raccoon Creek in Washington County containing 234 acres, 3 > quarters, 25 perches and the usual allowance for roads & executed Apl ye > 18th 1789 in pursuance of a warrant granted to James Kinkaid for 200 acres > dated March ye 3d 1789. Presley Nevill, Mattw. Ritchie, D.S. Jno. Lukens, > Esqu’r. S.G. Adjacent land owners: Hugh Pugh, John Kinkaid, McCullough, > Wm. McConnell, John Stone, Thomas Whitacre. Pennsylvania State Archives, > RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. D-38, p. > 203. > Allegheny County, PA > > 1790 John Kinkead, [000003] Portion taken from Washington County, PA, > Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 16, 1 male under 16, 1 female. USFC, > p.17. > 1791 John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA > at 9.0. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 647. > 1791 John Kinkead [000003] & wife, Elizabeth of Mifflin Township, > Allegheny County, PA sold 88 acres in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, > PA to Christopher Horning adjoining land of George Katz, John Kinkead & > George Mantle; witnesses: Michael Jones & Samuel Jones. April 21, 1791, > recorded June 17, 1791. Allegheny County, PA Deed Books 1 & 2, p. 335. > 1792 John Kinkead [000003] testified for the plaintiff, Nicolas Bausman in > Nicolas Bausman v. William Steward on Sept. 5, 1792 in Allegheny County, > PA. Washington County, PA > > 1793 John Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists > 1793 James Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists > 1794 John Kinkade [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, > PA. General List of the Taxables in Allegheny County, PA by Elizabeth > Wall. > 1795 John Kinkead. [000003] A draught of a tract of land surveyed the 15th > day of July 1795 in pursuance of a warrant bearing the date the day 1st > June 1787 for 100 acres for John Kinkead situate in Mifflin Township and > County of Allegheny. Presley Nevill, D.S. To Daniel Broadhead, Esq’r. > Surveyor General. Adjacent land owners: John Kinkead, Widow Work, James > Torrence, John Reed. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the > Land Office,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681- 1912,Vol. C-114, p. 58. > 1795 John Kinkead [000022] grantor to Joseph Hulten, August 12, 1795, > Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Book 1L, p. 360. Washington County > Court House, Washington, PA > 1795 John Kinkead [000022] & wife, Jean, grantees from Benjamin Wells, > August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County > Court House, Washington, PA > 1795 James Kinkead [000022] & wife, Nancy, grantees from Benjamin Wells, > grantor, August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County Court House, Washington, PA > 1799 John Kinkead [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold > to George Allison of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 2 acres for 5 > shillings in Mifflin Township being part of a tract of 400 acres granted > to John Kinkead by the Supreme Executive Council patent date, July 10, > 1788, on May 7, 1799. Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 10-K, p. 276. > 1799 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., patented 102 acres in Washington County, > PA, now Allegheny County, PA, date of return, January 28, 1799, name of > tract, Farmer’s Hope, warrant June 1, 1787. Pennsylvania State Archives, > RG-17,Records of the Land Office PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-20 to P-35), > 1792-1800, P, No. 34, May 1798-Oct. 1799 p. 158. > 1799 John Kinkead [000003] of Peter’s Creek, Allegheny County, PA had > letters remaining at the Pittsburgh Post Office, Oct. 1, 1799. Pittsburgh > Gazette Abstracts. > 1800 John Kinkaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 2 males > 16-26, 1 male 10-16, 1 male under 10,1 female 26-45, 1 female 10-16. USFC, > 74. > 1800 John Kincaid, Canton Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 2 > males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10. USFC, 18:10. > 1800 John Kincaid, Chartiers Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male over > 45, 1 male 26-45, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10. > USFC, 28:10. > 1803 John Kincaid [000003] appointed with John Finley, John Vernen, Joseph > Wilson, John Wilson, Samuel Kirkpatrick & Philip Yant to make an > evaluation of 235 acres in St. Clair Township, Allegheny County, PA which > belonged to George Caty, deceased, November 1803. > Allegheny County, PA, Orphan’s Court Docket I, 1789-1820, p. 85. > 1810 John Kinkade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male > over 45, 1 male 16-26, 1 female 10-16, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 157. > 1810 John Kinkade, Indiana Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 > male under 10, 1 female 10- 15, 26-45. USFC, p. 313. > 1817 John Kincaid [000003] mentioned as adjoining land owner to Major > Abraham Kirkpatrick, deceased, who owned a tract of land in St. Clair > Township, Allegheny County, PA called “Coal Hill Plantation” containing > 235 acres, November,1817. Allegheny County, PA Orphan’s Court Docket I, > 1789-1820, p. 285. > 1819 John Kinkaid [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA & > William Carrel of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, executors of the > will of William Reed, deseased of Mifflin Township sold to Henry Roads of > Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 401 ¾ acres called Tabermore > conveyed to William Reed by patent dated November 6, 1802, for $1700.86 on > April 23, 1818. Allegheny County Deed Book 27-2B, p. 89. > 1830 John Kincade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. USFC. > 1831 John Kincaid, [000003] private, of Allegheny County, PA age 86, > received $80.00 per year pension for service during the Revolutionary War, > sums received $200.00. Commencement of pension March 4, 1831. > Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts. > 1833 John Kincaid, [000003] of Jefferson Township, Allegheny County, > Pennsylvania > John Kincaid, Penn. S. 22,345 > > 22.660 > Pittsburgh Penn. > John Kincaid, Pittsburgh in the State of Penn. was a Private in the Co. > commanded by Captain Minton of the Regt. commanded > by Col. Beelor in the Penn. Line for two years. > Inscribed on the Roll of Penn. Pittsburgh at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 > cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831. > Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to E. > Simpson, Pittsburgh, Penn. > Arrears to the 4th of September, 1833 $200.00 > ? allowance ending 4 March 1834 40.00 > 240.00 > Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 > Recorded by Wm. ? Palmer, Clerk > Book E, Vol. five, page 82 > > War Department > Pension Office > 15th Nov. 1833 > Sir > The evidence in support of your ? and the act of June 7, 1832, has been > examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a > statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with > the following rules and the subscribed notes you will readily perceive > that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be > allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be > done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, > you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus }). You will, when > you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with > the, and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the > investigation of your claim. > A Statement, showing the Service of John Kincaid > Period of Service Duration Rank Name & Rank of Field officers age at > present > 1 May 1778 6 months Prvt. Capt. Minton 85 years, Pa. > Capt. Beeler > 1 May 1779 6 months Prvt. Capt. Wright > 1 May 1780 6 months Prvt. Capt. Cox > Capt. Mitchel > 1 May 1781 7 months Prvt. Cunningham > > I am, respectfully, > Your obedient servant > J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions > > 1833 John Kincaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, was a native of > Lancaster County, PA, private in a company of artificers in the erection > of Ft. McIntosh, died Nov. 16, 1833 leaving 2 daughters: Elizabeth Duncan > & Hannah Torrence. Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Andrew Kinkead, son of George Kinkead moved to Westmoreland County, PA.  Westmoreland County, PA was formed in 1773 from Bedford County, PA.  His brother John Kinkead was in Salem Township in 1790,  Andrew was first in Mount Pleasant Township, then Derry Township. 1776 George Kinkead [4164] taxed in Toboyne Township, Cumberland  County, PA for 100 warranted acres,         70 cleared, 2 horses,  2 cows, 4 sheep. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1776 Andrew Kinkead, [000017] freeman, taxed in Toboyne Township, Cumberland County, PA.          Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA. Son of George Kinkead [4164]. 1779 Andrew Kinkead, [000017] son of George Kinkead, [4164] married Elizabeth Maxwell, November 4,             1779, Centre  Presbyterian Church, Sherman’s Valley, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County             Historical Society, Carlisle, PA, Rev. Linn’s Marriages, 1778-1793. 1783 Andrew Kinkead [000017] taxed in Mount Pleasant Township, Westmorland County, PA for 1 horse, 2         cows, 2 sheep.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 522. 1783 Andrew Kincaid, [000017] Esq., certified statement that Thomas Beatty, Derry Township,                             Westmoreland County, PA  served 3 years in the Revolutionary War, received many wounds while in             service & was badly abused when a British captive. Thomas Beatty, private, from          Thompson’s Rifles, Chambers’ Company, discharged July 1778; resided in Derry Township,                         Westmoreland County, PA, 1814. Noncommissioned Officers and Privates of First Pennsylvania                 Regiment Continental Line.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 586; Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 2,         p. 710. 1785 Andrew Kincaid, [000017] Mount Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County, PA, [son of George                 Kinkead], [4164] deeded land from William Tindell of Derry Township, Westmoreland County, PA, May         18, 1785,  This Indenture the eighteenth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred         & eighty five Tindel of Derry Township in the County of Westmoreland & State of Pennsylvania of the             one part & Andrew Kinkaid of Mount Pleasant Township & County & State aforesaid of the other part             Witnesseth that the said William Tindel for & in  Consideration of the sum of twelve pounds good &             lawful money of the State of Pennsylvania to him in hand paid by the  said Andrew Kinkaid the receipt         whereof I do hereby acknowledge & am fully satisfied therewith have granted, bargained           & sold & by these presents do grant bargain & sell unto the said Andrew Kinkaid and to his heirs &             assigns a certain  warrant or order of survey together with the receipt for the (page 45) purchase money         paid into the land office for the same being date at Philadelphia the first day of December in the year of         our Lord one thousand seven hundred & eighty five for one hundred eighty acres of land adjoining ?                 Maxwell ? ? to have and to hold said warrant & the land held by  the same to the said Andrew Kinkaid         his heirs & assigns to the only proper use & behouf? of the said Andrew Kinkaid           his heirs, executors, administrators & assigns the aforesaid warrant together with the land held by the     same unto the said  Andrew Kinkaid, his heirs, executors, administrators and assigns shall & will warrant         & defend ? by these presents in  Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal the day & year     first above written.  William Tindell   Signed sealed & delivered in the presents of us   John Landon ?  Margaret Landon ? I would assume that Davie Dunseath moved to Westmoreland County, unless it's not the same David Dunseath. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:30:35 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaids of Lancaster County, PA There were a James and a David Dunseath on the same census page as Andrew Kincaid of Westmoreland County, PA in the 1790 census.  I assume this was the same David Dunseath who bought the land in Sherman's Creek from Thomas Kincaid, son of John of Carlisle? Did the county boundary lines change, or did both Andrew Kincaid and David Dunseath move to Westmoreland County? Also, I read the pension files of John Kincaid/Anna Gregory at www.footnote.com.  Anna Gregory Kincaid named her children, and they included the Joseph R. Kincaid whose descendant might be (?) the one who gave the DNA sample. Barb Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: <btea93059@tx.rr.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kincaids of Lancaster County, PA >I almost hate to bring this up.....again.....because I'll be sorry to open >up this can of worms considering how little time I have for this now.  But >these Kincaids, Samuel, John, Michael, al seem to be the ones in closest >proximity to the Clingans in my branch.  Of course there are some in my >branch convinced that the Thomas married to Hannah Clingan is the same as >the son of the Shopkeeper---but a DNA sample has suggested otherwise. > > Yet the mystery remains that the tested DNA for Thomas/Hannah Clingan is > in Group C, while these others, and now apparently, the Shopkeeper's > family is group A. > > Now niether line has been vested, and I'm fairly sure that the testee for > the Shopkeeper will not present material for this.  Other than getting > real birth certificates, I see little to question about his line > (John/Anna Gregory of SC). > > On the other hand, Bill, the testee for my line, his family has an > interesting story, and one that I think bears a much closer look.  Because > the circumstantial evidence that my Thomas was of the Shopkeeper of > Carlisle is strong. > > There is another scenario that I have suggested.  That Edward Clingan and > his sister Hannah travelled to tennessee BEFORE meeting Thomas Kincaid. > That my Thomas came to America shortly after the War--i.e. after a lot of > the records we look at--and met the Clingans in Tennessee or more > appropriately, that part which was North Carolina. > > There are flaws in the above scenario which I won't take the time to point > out.  But the point is that the connection that my line clings to, with > the Clingans of Lancaster and York County can't be reconciled with what we > know about the Kincaids of that area UNLESS somebody's DNA is wrong. > > Bruce > > ---- Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Dear Kincaid-listers, with all of this time on my hands I have had the >> opportunity to make some discoveries and to make some determinations >> concerning some mysterious Kincaids in Pennsylvania. > First is John Kinkead, Jr. formerly of Lancaster County, PA, the first > citation to whom follows. > I now believe that this John Kinkead is the brother of Samuel Kinkead of > Fawn Township, York County, PA, who died in 1779. Samuel mentioned his > property on Petters Creek and that is where John Kinkead ends up. > And his sister Mary Kinkead is the Mary Kinkead of Bedford County, PA. He > is therefore connected to Michael Kinkead of Hamilton Bann's Township, > York County, PA. And is therefore connected to the Kincaids of Sadsbury > and West Caln Townships, Chester County, PA. It is strange that a James > Kincaid & a John > Kincaid are taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA both before and > after the 1790 Census, but they are no where to be found in the Washington > County, PA ennumeration; I went through it column by column and they are > not there. You can follow John Kinkead Jr. by searching on [000003] > Be advised I tried the plain text deal. We'll see how it looks. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > 1769 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, applied > for a warrant to take up 300 acres in Washington County, PA (Cumberland > County, PA in 1769) of new purchase lands, now in Allegheny County, PA, > dated, June 27, 1769, application #3562, New Purchase, warrant #25, > patentee, John Douglas, Nov. 10, 1784, name of tract, Bucks Forest. > Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT > INDEX, P SERIES (P-1 to P-19), 1781- 1794, P. No. 3, July 24, 1784-Sept, > 19, 1785. > > 1779 Samuel Kinkcaid, [000004] Fawn Township, York County, PA, will > written March 26, 1776, proved April 30, 1779. Last Will & Testament of > Samuel Kinkead, proved April 3, 1779, Inventory filed, May 12, 1779 > > In the name of God, Amen, I Samuel Kinkaid [000004]being in perfect health > of body and of sound memory, blessed be God this twenty sixth day of March > in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy six, make > and publish this my last will and testament. In manner following that is > to say first, I give to my brother John, [000004] fifty acres of any land > where it may not hurt the place but most convenient for both places. Next, > I give to my sister Mary [000004] one hundred acres of any place. Next I > give to my cousin Samuel Kinkaid, [000004] son to Michael Kinkaid, > [000004] one hundred acres of my land near Pittsburgh on >  Petters Creek. Next I give to my cousin Michael Kinkaid [000004] all my > chattels and goods he > has now in his possesion. And I do make and ordain my cousin Michael > Kinkaid [000004] to be my whole executor of this my last will and > testament in trust for the intention and purpose in this my will contained > and in witness where of I the said Samuel Kinkaid [000004] have to this my > last will and testament set my hand and seal the day and year above > mentioned. > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of us. > > Samuel Kinkaid [000004] > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > > York County > > Before me Archibald McClean, Register for the Probate of Will and granting > letters of administration in and for the County of York in the > Commonwealth of Pennsylvania personally came Hugh Artens and John Shultz > the two subscribing witnesses to the foregoing instrument of writing and > on their solemn oaths in the common form of law do severally and > respectively testify that they were personally present at the time when > the before named Samuel Kinkead [000004]executed the before written > instrument of writing, but do not particularly recollect his signing or > sealing or publishing the same. But he, the said Samuel Kinkead being then > engaged as a soldier in the Continental Service, they effectively > understood it to be his last will and testament, which he then made before > he would march. That the names Hugh Artens and John Shultz are > respectively of the said deponents own hand writing and that they > respectively are fully assured that they > would not have signed their names there to as witnesses unless they had > seen the same signed, sealed and published, the further that the said > Samuel Kinkead [000004] was at that time of sound and disposing mind > memory and understanding to the best of their knowledge and belief, and > farther that they did sign their names > there to in his presence and also in the presence of each other. > > Sworn and Subscribed before me at York the 30th day of April 1779 > > Hugh Artens > John Shultz > Arch McClean Reg. > Copy of original from the York County, PA Archives > > 1778 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Minton, May 1, 1778, under Colonel Beeler to erect Fort McIntosh to serve > six months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 > 1779 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Zadoch Wright, April 1, 1779, marched to Fort St. Michael in Virginia, to > serve six months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. > 22,345 > 1780 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. James > Mitchell April 1, 1780, marched to James’ Fort, Virginia, to serve six > months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345. > > Washington County, PA > > 1781 John Kinkaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, PA > for 380 acres, 2 horses, 2 cows, 2 sheep at 254. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 3, vol. 22, p. 758. > 1781 John Kincade taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA for 200 > acres, 1 horse, 1 cow, 3 sheep at 52. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol.. > 22, p. 774. > 1781 Robert Kinkaid taxed as a single man in Cecil Township, Washington > County, PA, no assessment. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, vol. 22, p. 720. > > Washington County Militia > > 1781 James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, 1781-1783. Inactive Duty Militia. Record > Does Not Prove Active Duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > 1781 James Kinkaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s Company of > Foot, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, commanded by Col. John > Marshal, Sept. 18, 1781. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 131.. > 1781 John Kincaid, [000003] private, drafted into service with Capt. > Cunningham, April 1, 1781, marched to McKeesport, Pa., to serve seven > months. War Department Pension Application of John Kincaid, S. 22,345 > 1781 John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, 7th Company, 4th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, 1781- 1783. Inactive Duty Militia. Record > Does Not Prove Active Duty.. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > 1781 John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s Company of > Militia, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, Arrangement of > Militia, 1781-1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, vol. 2, p. 28. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., Lancaster County, PA sold land on > Chartiers Creek, Petters Township, Washington County, PA to John Douglas, > Washington County, PA, March 5, 1782. Washington County Court House, > Washington, PA. > See:John Douglas. The above is a draught of a tract of land situate in > Petters Township, Washington County, PA. Surveyed January 12th 1785, in > pursuance of a warrant granted to John Douglas, Esq’r. dated Nov. 5, 1784, > called John Douglass’s Delight, containing 330 acres with 6 percent > allowance for roads. David Redick D.S. John Lukens, Esq. Adjacent land > owners: > John Douglass’s other land. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of > the Land Office, COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. A-75, p. 11. > > Washington County, PA Militia > > 1782 James Kinhead, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Renkon’s Company, 4th > Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of the 4th, 5th, 6th & > 7th Classes, ordered to rendevous May 14th, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, > s. 6, v. 2, p. 143. > 1782 James Cankaid, private, 4th Class, Capt. Thomas Rankin’s return of > the 4th and 5th Class, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, Sept. > 4, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 150. > 1782 John Kinkaid, private, 5th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll, > commanded by Col. John Marshal, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA > Militia. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. > 1782 James Kinkaid, private, 7th Class, Capt. Peter Kidd’s Militia Roll > commanded by Col. John Marshal, 4th Battalion, Washington County, PA > Militia.. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 153. > 1782 John Kincaid [000003] in 7th Class on roll of Capt. Zadok Wright’s > Company of Washington County, PA Militia, 1782. Pennsylvania Archives, s. > 6, v. 2, p. 28. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt. Zadok Wright’s > Company, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of 5th, > 6th, 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze, June 14th 1782. Given > Under my hand this 19th day June 1782. Zadok Wright, Capt. Pennsylvania > Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 53, 256. > 1782 John Kinkead, [000003] private, 7th Class, Capt.. Zadok Wright’s > Company, 2nd Battalion, Washington County, PA Militia, A return of 6th, > 7th and 8th Classes, ordered to rendevouze, September 15th, 1782. Given > Under my hand this 23rd day > September 1782. Zadok Wright, Capt. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. > 73. > 1782 Jacob Beam. June 14th 1782, this is to certify that Jacob Beam served > in my company as a soldier commencing May 16th Ending June 14th certified > by me. Zadok Wright. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 6, v. 2, p. 42, 256. > 1782 John Kincaid, private, 7th Class, 2nd Company, 7th Battalion, > Washington County, PA Militia, January 8, 1782. Record does not prove > active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > > Washington County, PA Militia > > 1783 John Kincaid, [000003] private, on list of soldiers of the Revolution > who received pay for services for Washington County, PA. Pennsylvania > Archives, s. 5, v. 4, p. 715. > 1783 John Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > 1783 Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > 1783 Joseph Kincaid, private, on list of soldiers, Washington County, PA > Militia who received depreciation pay. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 5, v. 4, > p. 407. > > Washington County, PA > > 1784 John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Peters Township, Washington County, > PA. Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 John Kincaid taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 Robert Kinkaid, [44937] freeman, taxed in Cecil Township, Washington > County, PA. Washington County, PA Tax Lists. > 1784 Robert Kinkade [4588] married Mary Bowman in Washington County, PA on > December 2, 1784. Pension Application of Mary (Bowman) Kinkade, Hardin > County, KY.. > > 1784 John Kincaid, [000003] Washington County, PA Militia received 3 > pounds 17 shillings per certificate #2171 on November 15, 1784. Record > proves active service. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File > > Washington County, PA > > 1785 John Kinkaid taxed in Dickinson Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists.. > 1785 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., grantor to John Douglas, February 7, > 1785, Washington County, PA Chartiers Creek, Grantee Land Index, Book 1B, > p. 31. Westmoreland County Court House, Greensburg, PA > 1785 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, > received a warrant to take up 400 acres in Washington County, PA, now in > Allegheny County, PA, dated, February 17, 1785. Pennsylvania State > Archives > 1785 John Kinkead. [000003] The above is a draught of survey made March > 21, 1785 in pursuance of a warrant granted to John Kinkead dated 17th Feb. > 1785, called Brush Ridge. Containing 400 acres with 6 percent allowance > and is situate in Washington County. David Redeck, D.S. To John Lukens, > Esq’r. S.G. Adjacent land owners: John Reed, Robert Henderson’s Claim, Fry’s > Claim, vacant. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land > Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. L, p. 362. > 1787 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., received a warrant for 100 acres in > Washington County, PA, now in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, > dated, June 1, 1787, patented, June 24, 1799, John Kinkead, 102..88 acres. > Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17,Records of the Land Office > WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning > with K, p. 56. > 1788 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., formerly of Lancaster County, PA, > patented 400 acres in Washington County, PA, now in Allegheny County, PA, > date of return, June 24, 1788, warrant, Feb. 17, 1785. Pennsylvania State > Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733- > 1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames beginning with K, p. 56. > 1788 James Kinkead [000022] on roll of Capt. Thomas Brisland’s Company of > Washington County, PA Militia. History of Washington County, PA, 1882. > 1789 James Kinkaid warranted 200 acres in Washington County, PA, March 3, > 1789. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 26, p. 574:RG-17, Records of the > Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS, 1733-1957, Washington County, PA, Surnames > beginning with K, p. 57. > 1789 James Kinkaid. A draught of a survey called “Turkey Green” situate in > the waters of Raccoon Creek in Washington County containing 234 acres, 3 > quarters, 25 perches and the usual allowance for roads & executed Apl ye > 18th 1789 in pursuance of a warrant granted to James Kinkaid for 200 acres > dated March ye 3d 1789. Presley Nevill, Mattw. Ritchie, D.S. Jno. Lukens, > Esqu’r. S.G. Adjacent land owners: Hugh Pugh, John Kinkaid, McCullough, > Wm. McConnell, John Stone, Thomas Whitacre. Pennsylvania State Archives, > RG-17, Records of the Land Office COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol. D-38, p. > 203. > Allegheny County, PA > > 1790 John Kinkead, [000003] Portion taken from Washington County, PA, > Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 16, 1 male under 16, 1 female. USFC, > p..17. > 1791 John Kincaid [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA > at 9.0. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 647. > 1791 John Kinkead [000003] & wife, Elizabeth of Mifflin Township, > Allegheny County, PA sold 88 acres in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, > PA to Christopher Horning adjoining land of George Katz, John Kinkead & > George Mantle; witnesses: Michael Jones & Samuel Jones. April 21, 1791, > recorded June 17, 1791. Allegheny County, PA Deed Books 1 & 2, p. 335. > 1792 John Kinkead [000003] testified for the plaintiff, Nicolas Bausman in > Nicolas Bausman v. William Steward on Sept. 5, 1792 in Allegheny County, > PA. Washington County, PA > > 1793 John Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists > 1793 James Kinked [000022] taxed in Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County, PA Tax Lists > 1794 John Kinkade [000003] taxed in Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, > PA. General List of the Taxables in Allegheny County, PA by Elizabeth > Wall. > 1795 John Kinkead. [000003] A draught of a tract of land surveyed the 15th > day of July 1795 in pursuance of a warrant bearing the date the day 1st > June 1787 for 100 acres for John Kinkead situate in Mifflin Township and > County of Allegheny. Presley Nevill, D.S. To Daniel Broadhead, Esq’r. > Surveyor General. Adjacent land owners: John Kinkead, Widow Work, James > Torrence, John Reed. Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the > Land Office,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681- 1912,Vol. C-114, p. 58. > 1795 John Kinkead [000022] grantor to Joseph Hulten, August 12, 1795, > Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Book 1L, p. 360. Washington County > Court House, Washington, PA > 1795 John Kinkead [000022] & wife, Jean, grantees from Benjamin Wells, > August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington County, PA. Washington County > Court House, Washington, PA > 1795 James Kinkead [000022] & wife, Nancy, grantees from Benjamin Wells, > grantor, August 12, 1795, Smith Township, Washington County, PA. > Washington County Court House, Washington, PA > 1799 John Kinkead [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA sold > to George Allison of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 2 acres for 5 > shillings in Mifflin Township being part of a tract of 400 acres granted > to John Kinkead by the Supreme Executive Council patent date, July 10, > 1788, on May 7, 1799. Allegheny County, PA Deed Book, 10-K, p. 276. > 1799 John Kinkead, [000003] Jr., patented 102 acres in Washington County, > PA, now Allegheny County, PA, date of return, January 28, 1799, name of > tract, Farmer’s Hope, warrant June 1, 1787.. Pennsylvania State Archives, > RG-17,Records of the Land Office PATENT INDEX, P SERIES (P-20 to P-35), > 1792-1800, P, No. 34, May 1798-Oct. 1799 p. 158. > 1799 John Kinkead [000003] of Peter’s Creek, Allegheny County, PA had > letters remaining at the Pittsburgh Post Office, Oct. 1, 1799. Pittsburgh > Gazette Abstracts. > 1800 John Kinkaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, 1 male over 45, 2 males > 16-26, 1 male 10-16, 1 male under 10,1 female 26-45, 1 female 10-16. USFC, > 74. > 1800 John Kincaid, Canton Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 2 > males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10. USFC, 18:10. > 1800 John Kincaid, Chartiers Township, Washington County, PA, 1 male over > 45, 1 male 26-45, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females under 10. > USFC, 28:10.. > 1803 John Kincaid [000003] appointed with John Finley, John Vernen, Joseph > Wilson, John Wilson, Samuel Kirkpatrick & Philip Yant to make an > evaluation of 235 acres in St. Clair Township, Allegheny County, PA which > belonged to George Caty, deceased, November 1803. > Allegheny County, PA, Orphan’s Court Docket I, 1789-1820, p. 85. > 1810 John Kinkade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male > over 45, 1 male 16-26, 1 female 10-16, 1 female over 45. USFC, p. 157. > 1810 John Kinkade, Indiana Township, Allegheny County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 > male under 10, 1 female 10- 15, 26-45. USFC, p. 313. > 1817 John Kincaid [000003] mentioned as adjoining land owner to Major > Abraham Kirkpatrick, deceased, who owned a tract of land in St. Clair > Township, Allegheny County, PA called “Coal Hill Plantation” containing > 235 acres, November,1817. Allegheny County, PA Orphan’s Court Docket I, > 1789-1820, p. 285. > 1819 John Kinkaid [000003] of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA & > William Carrel of Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA, executors of the > will of William Reed, deseased of Mifflin Township sold to Henry Roads of > Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA 401 ¾ acres called Tabermore > conveyed to William Reed by patent dated November 6, 1802, for $1700.86 on > April 23, 1818. Allegheny County Deed Book 27-2B, p. 89. > 1830 John Kincade, [000003] Mifflin Township, Allegheny County, PA. USFC. > 1831 John Kincaid, [000003] private, of Allegheny County, PA age 86, > received $80.00 per year pension for service during the Revolutionary War, > sums received $200.00. Commencement of pension March 4, 1831. > Revolutionary War Pension Abstracts. > 1833 John Kincaid, [000003] of Jefferson Township, Allegheny County, > Pennsylvania > John Kincaid, Penn. S. 22,345 > > 22.660 > Pittsburgh Penn. > John Kincaid, Pittsburgh in the State of Penn. was a Private in the Co. > commanded by Captain Minton of the Regt. commanded > by Col. Beelor in the Penn. Line for two years. > Inscribed on the Roll of Penn. Pittsburgh at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 > cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March 1831. > Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of Nov. 1833 and sent to E. > Simpson, Pittsburgh, Penn. > Arrears to the 4th of September, 1833 $200.00 > ? allowance ending 4 March 1834 40.00 > 240.00 > Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832 > Recorded by Wm. ? Palmer, Clerk > Book E, Vol. five, page 82 > > War Department > Pension Office > 15th Nov. 1833 > Sir > The evidence in support of your ? and the act of June 7, 1832, has been > examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a > statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with > the following rules and the subscribed notes you will readily perceive > that objections exist, which must be removed before a pension can be > allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be > done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, > you will find marked in the margin with a brace (thus }). You will, when > you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with > the, and you will by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the > investigation of your claim. > A Statement, showing the Service of John Kincaid > Period of Service Duration Rank Name & Rank of Field officers age at > present > 1 May 1778 6 months Prvt. Capt. Minton 85 years, Pa. > Capt. Beeler > 1 May 1779 6 months Prvt. Capt. Wright > 1 May 1780 6 months Prvt. Capt. Cox > Capt. Mitchel > 1 May 1781 7 months Prvt. Cunningham > > I am, respectfully, > Your obedient servant > J.L. Edwards, Commissioner of Pensions > > 1833 John Kincaid, [000003] Allegheny County, PA, was a native of > Lancaster County, PA, private in a company of artificers in the erection > of Ft. McIntosh, died Nov. 16, 1833 leaving 2 daughters: Elizabeth Duncan > & Hannah Torrence. 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How my husband's family fits - I'm not sure. This is what I know: My husband - John Robert Kinkead - born in Martinsburg, WV on 5/27/1947 His father - John Blue Kinkead - born in Springfield, WV on 9/24/1912 - died Hedgesville, WV - died 10/4/1975 in Martinsburg, WV His father - John Andrew Kinkead - born in Glenboig in the Landward of New Monkland in County Lanark Scotland 4/24/1882 (the surname on the birth record was spelled Kinked). he died April 25, 1940 in Hedgesville, WV and is buried in Springfield, WV. He came to the United State when he was 5 and lived in the Pittsburgh, PA area before moving to Springfield WV then to Hedgesville, WV His father - Hugh Kinkaid (the spelling as stated on his death certificated) born 5/25, 1833 in Ireland or Scotland (of this I am not sure). He died 6/22/1922 in Springfield and is buried there. He was married to a Martha Adams or Adamson on December 23, 1870 in Banbrige, Ireland . He came to the USA somewhere between 1882 and1887 to work as a fireman who coke ovens for either making steel or brick. When the depression hit he moved to Springfield WV to farm. His father is John Kinkaid born in Scotland but date is not known nor is any other information known. This is about all I know. I know that John Andrew had two brothers: Hugh(died young and is buried in Springfield) and James who was either a teacher or a lawyer and stayed in the Washington PA area; Martha was too ill to travel when the family left Pa to come to WV so she stayed there was James and some other family friends. She is buried there an I have not been able to find a record of her death or where she is buried. John Andrew also had two sisters Maggie and Annie. Annie married a Field from Springfield and lived there the rest of her life. If anyone has any information to share I would greatly appredicate it. Or if you have any question I can clarify for you please email me. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead > Mary- > > Odd. Mine came through fine; all seven Johns and one James. > > Where does your John fit into the Kinkead tree? > > Dick Kinkead 2562 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Kinkead" <mkinkead@verizon.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment, > 1st Penn. Regt. > > >>I subscribe to the kincaid rootweb and each of the emails in reference to >> John Kinkead is empty (no text in the body) would you know why that >> happened? >> Mary Kinkead >> married to a John Kinkead :-) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:41 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] John Kinkead, artificer, Isaac Craig's Detachment,1st >> Penn. Regt. >> >> >>> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM > > >