I'd wait until more is learned about them. For now it is more of an experiment to see if it will break up the U106/S21+ group that you are part of. They are really family SNPs. I'd say the odds are high Group A Kincaids don't have them. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: "Genealogy, KINCAID" <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Fw: New L-series SNPs offered by FTDNA > Sue, Peter, Don: > > Anything to be gained by us going for the new tests below? > > Dick Kinkead 2562 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <westons@ns.sympatico.ca> > To: <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:35 PM > Subject: New L-series SNPs offered by FTDNA > > > This message has been processed by the FTDNA Email System. > The original headers are: > To: westons@ns.sympatico.ca;Dan.Draghici@international.gc.ca > Cc: > Bcc: rkinkead11@comcast.net > The original message follows below: > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Just last week several new yDNA SNPs appeared on the "advanced orders" > menu > of FTDNA customers. Two of these SNPs are relevant to those who are > U106+ - > all those who are members of this project. These are L5 and L6, which are > priced at $39 each or both for the price of $69. > > This caused a lot of excitement on a couple of the genetic genealogy > discussion lists, which some of you may have seen. Based on this 14 > members > of our project have ordered these SNPs. Yesterday, Dr. Thomas Krahn of > FTDNA > finally had the chance to post detailed descriptions of the 12 L-series > SNPs, including L5 and L6, on the Genealogy-DNA list at Rootsweb.com. Here > are links to those postings: > > An overview of the method by which the L-series SNPs were discovered - > http://tinyurl.com/5txnmr > Information on L5 - http://tinyurl.com/6pjbwd > Information on L6 - http://tinyurl.com/68fy66 > > There was some dismay on the list once people read Dr. Krahn's postings. > Basically, only one of the SNPs, L2, has been tested and found in men with > different surnames and no known relations. All the other L-series SNPs are > what is called a "family SNP." This means that, at the present level of > testing, they may be very recent SNPs that have occurred within a specific > paternal line. In the case of L5 and L6, they were found in men who have > tested as U106+. So, there is a chance, small, that they may occur in > unrelated men who are also U106+. The chances are much larger that > everyone > outside these paternal lines will be negative for L5 and L6. > > Of course, the choice is up to you whether you order these two new SNPs. > If > you feel that it would be a waste of money to order a test with a low > chance > of testing positive, then the best thing to do is not to order these SNPs. > If you can spare the money for testing either or both of these SNPs and > are > enthusiastic about the chance, however small, that you might help > establish > a new subclade for our haplogroup, then by all means order the SNPs. > > In the case of the 14 members who ordered the SNPs without fully being > informed about the SNPs and the chances of being positive, if you feel > that > you ordered the SNPs without a full understanding of what you were > ordering, > you can request a refund. Thomas Krahn posted today on the Rootsweb list > that FTDNA will honor any refund request from those who ordered any of the > L-series SNPs before his postings with detailed information appeared > yesterday. > > If you have any questions about these SNPs, please write David Weston at > westons@ns.sympatico.ca

I noted the following reference of a male Kinkaid marrying a daughter of John Huston of Pennsboro. Does anyone have any idea who this might be? >From Biographical Annals of Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Chicago: The Genealogical Publishing Co., 1905, pages 676-680 Margaret married John Huston, a son of Christopher Huston, and by him had the following children: Jonathan, James, John, Samuel, William, Ann, Isabella and Mrs. Kinkaid. John Huston purchased a tract of land in West Pennsboro while West Pennsboro yet included Dickinson and Penn townships. A few years afterward he moved to this newly acquired possession and he and his descendants were long some of the most prominent and influential people of that part of the county. http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/cumberland/bios/zeamer/huston-fam.txt Best wishes! Peter A. Kincaid Fredericton, NB, Canada

Sue, Peter, Don: Anything to be gained by us going for the new tests below? Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: <westons@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <rkinkead11@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: New L-series SNPs offered by FTDNA This message has been processed by the FTDNA Email System. The original headers are: To: westons@ns.sympatico.ca;Dan.Draghici@international.gc.ca Cc: Bcc: rkinkead11@comcast.net The original message follows below: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just last week several new yDNA SNPs appeared on the "advanced orders" menu of FTDNA customers. Two of these SNPs are relevant to those who are U106+ - all those who are members of this project. These are L5 and L6, which are priced at $39 each or both for the price of $69. This caused a lot of excitement on a couple of the genetic genealogy discussion lists, which some of you may have seen. Based on this 14 members of our project have ordered these SNPs. Yesterday, Dr. Thomas Krahn of FTDNA finally had the chance to post detailed descriptions of the 12 L-series SNPs, including L5 and L6, on the Genealogy-DNA list at Rootsweb.com. Here are links to those postings: An overview of the method by which the L-series SNPs were discovered - http://tinyurl.com/5txnmr Information on L5 - http://tinyurl.com/6pjbwd Information on L6 - http://tinyurl.com/68fy66 There was some dismay on the list once people read Dr. Krahn's postings. Basically, only one of the SNPs, L2, has been tested and found in men with different surnames and no known relations. All the other L-series SNPs are what is called a "family SNP." This means that, at the present level of testing, they may be very recent SNPs that have occurred within a specific paternal line. In the case of L5 and L6, they were found in men who have tested as U106+. So, there is a chance, small, that they may occur in unrelated men who are also U106+. The chances are much larger that everyone outside these paternal lines will be negative for L5 and L6. Of course, the choice is up to you whether you order these two new SNPs. If you feel that it would be a waste of money to order a test with a low chance of testing positive, then the best thing to do is not to order these SNPs. If you can spare the money for testing either or both of these SNPs and are enthusiastic about the chance, however small, that you might help establish a new subclade for our haplogroup, then by all means order the SNPs. In the case of the 14 members who ordered the SNPs without fully being informed about the SNPs and the chances of being positive, if you feel that you ordered the SNPs without a full understanding of what you were ordering, you can request a refund. Thomas Krahn posted today on the Rootsweb list that FTDNA will honor any refund request from those who ordered any of the L-series SNPs before his postings with detailed information appeared yesterday. If you have any questions about these SNPs, please write David Weston at westons@ns.sympatico.ca

Alice has posted the updated chart so as far as I know it is up to date. I have you listed with an unvetted earliest ancestor Joseph b 1793 m Eleanor Willis. I do not have a New Jersey county listed for you so don't know if it is possible that Joseph's father may have come from the New Castle Co. Delaware branch from 19324 who is vetted to William/Sarah b c1700 thru his son Joseph the clockmaker. This line has not been upgraded to 37 markers from 25 so technically should be placed in the Group A undetermined section but there is strong indication that 5164 comes from this line. Elaine believes 5164's ancestor was George William b 1792 of Cecil Co. MD who may be the son of Alexander the clockmaker. To bring yourself up to par and to let all of us know where you are in your search, you might want to consider a vetting post. It is always best to make sure you are on very firm footing before continuing back. If you should decide to do this, I would be happy to work with you as to format and organization before you post to the list. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Westmoreland County, PA > Sue- > > Is the DNA chart site up to date? > > Norman's work in Westmoreland County is getting close to home and I need > to > take another look and get up to speed. I need to find where MY Mary > Kinkead > (d. 1795 in W. Co.) is buried, as well as a record of MY David Kinkead's > marriage to Elizabeth McCarty/McCardy, which I believe took place there, > too. The family only stayed there for five years before moving on to > Belmont Co., OH, but I believe they went to W. Co. from NJ because there > were close relatives there. Norman's discoveries and recent DNA test > results seem to bear this out. > > Thanks ( for all you do ), > > Dick Kinkead 2562 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland > County, PA > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Norman. Ben Dixon would have/should have known his mother's sisters and brothers. Kinkade marriages in SHELBY COUNTY, IN: 14 June 1851 Ebenezer S. Kinkade (Kincaid) Sarah Elen Spellman 24 Dec 1854 Serves Kincaid (Kinkade) Elizabeth J. Spillman http://www.shelbycountyindiana.org/courthouse/marriage_records/marriages_b6.htm 1860 STARK COUNTY, IL>Toulon Township- June 22, 1860 DW 640 Ebenezer S. Kinkade a. 33 Collier b. OH Sarah E Kinkade a. 30 b. IND Charles A. Kinkade a. 8 b. IND Catherine A. Kinkade a. 6 b. IND Cynthia E. Kinkade a. 5 b. IND Benj F. Kinkade a. 3 b. ILL Edgar L. Kinkade a. 7/12 b. ILL Emma J. Kinkade a. 7/12 b. ILL 1870 Census Can't find the above family in Missouri nor in Illinois The 1880 CLARK COUNTY, MISSOURI census is very interesting, because it shows Pearly Dixon living with Charles A. Kinkade and wife Cordelia. This is good evidence that Rachel Maria Kinkade was the sister of Charles and daughter of Ebenezer & Sarah. Date of this census is June 3, 1880 DW 96 Kinkade, Chas A. a. 29 Marble cutter b. IND OHIO IND Kinkade, Cordelia, a. 29 wife b. IOWA ? ? " , Ella a. 5 daughter b. IOWA IND IOWA " , Purley a. 3 son b. MO IND IOWA " , Myrtle a. 1 daughter b. MO IND IOWA Dixon, Perley a. 30 boarder Marble cutter b. OHIO OHIO OHIO Did Perley Dixon go to Hancock, IL to meet Rachel Maria Kinkade? Why was Rachel working as a servant in Hancock County, according to the June,1880 census? Did she know the other Kinkade families in Hancock County? DIXON, PERLY N KINKAID, RACHAEL 1880-12-08 4/ 143 6834 HANCOCK Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 Here is what the Ben Dixon Book has, below that is the census data on Eben S. Kinkade. Eben S. Kinkade, oldest son of Andrew Kinkade and Ann Tingley, was born in Ohio, July 27, 1827, died April 26, 1905 in Clark County, MO. His mother was a descendant of the Massachusetts and New Jersey Tingleys; his father was from the Kinkades of Pennsylvania. At age 23 went to Shelby County, IN. In 1855 Eben S. Kinkade moved west to Stark County, IL, farmed on Spoon River near Toulon. In 1869 he moved to Sandusky, IA worked as a stone mason In 1871 he moved to Sweet Home Township, Clark County, MO. Married Sarah Spillman on June 14, 1851. She died on April 17, 1875 in Peaksville, MO. Children of Eben S. Kinkade and Sarah Spellman Charles Andrew Kinkade b. 1852 Catherine Ann Kinkade b 1853 Cynthia Eleanor Kinkade b. 1855 David William Kinkade d. Benj. Franklin Kinkade b 1857 Edgar Lane Kinkade d Emma Jane Kinkade d Rachel Maria b 1861 Infant d William S. Kinkade 1865 Thomas Spillman Kinkade d Martha Louise Kinkade d. James Dorsey Kinkade b 1870 Eben S. Kinkade b 1872 Clark County 1880 E. Smith Kinkade, [000022] born 1825, in OH, age 55, white, married, marble cutter, father b OH, mother b OH, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 196DB. Son of Andrew Kinkade & Ann Tingley of Monroe County, OH. 1880 Rosana Kinkade, born 1829, in OH, age 51, white, married, keeps house, father b OH, mother b OH, wife of E. Smith Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. 1880 E.S. Kinkade, [000022] born 1873, in MO, age 7, white, single, son of E. Smith Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Benj. Kinkade, [000022] born 1857, in IL, age 23, white, married, marble cutter, father b OH, m b IN, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 196D. 1880 Susan J. Kinkade, born 1850, in MO, age 30, white, married, keeps house, father b TN, mother b AL, wife of Benj. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 196D. 1880 Charles A. Kinkade, [000022] born 1851, in IN, age 29, white, married, marble cutter, father b OH, mother b IN, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Cordelia Kinkade, born 1851, in IA, age 29, white, married, keeps house, father b NY, mother b NY, wife of Charles A. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Ella Kinkade, [000022] born 1875, in IA, age 5, white, single, daughter of Charles A. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Purley Kinkade, [000022] born 1877, in MO, age 3, white, single, son of Charles A. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Myrtle Kinkade, [000022] born 1879, in MO, age 10 months, white, single, daughter of Charles A. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO. USFC, p. 197B. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:19:54 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 Does anyone have the book "Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon" - By Ben F. Dixon I see in the census for STARK COUNTY, IL some of the men's names that were in the book. There wasn't a Rachel Kinkade in Stark County. Who were the parents of Rachel Maria Kinkade? Here is a marriage in ASHLAND COUNTY, OHIO between Kinkade, Isaac; Smith, Sarah; married: 6-Jan-1853 This Isaac/Sarah might be the same family as in 1860 Bureau County, IL? In the 1850 ASHLAND COUNTY, OH census, the census taker gave only an initial for the first name in his territory. There was a large family headed by G. Kincaid a. 54, born in Maryland and S. Kincaid, a. 45 (wife) b. PA. James Kincaid a. 26 b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 24 M b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 19 M b. OH E. Kincaid a. 15 F b. OH M. A. Kincaid a. 14 F b. OH G. Kincaid a. 12 M b. OH * by name--possibly George Kincaid, Jr. U. Kincaid a. 10 F b. OH A. Kincaid a. 8 F b. OH A. Kincaid a. 7 M b. OH * by name--possibly Alexander E. Kincaid a. 4 F b. OH .1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a. 25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5, b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census. Her age matches that of the Rachel who married Pearly Dixon, and she was in Hancock County, IL in 1880. Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 > Ben F Dixon's book includes the Kinkade side of his family--- Pearly > Dixon married Rachel Kinkade in Hancock County, IL on Dec. 12, 1880. > > Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: > Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon - By Ben F. Dixon - > $45.00 per copy > http://www.ancestorology.com/Books.html > > DIXON, PERLY N KINKAID, RACHAEL > 1880-12-08 4/ 143 6834 HANCOCK > > In the 1880 HANCOCK COUNTY, IL census, dated June 3, 1880 > Rachel Kinkade a. 18 was a servant in the household of Lippe Harris. The > census shows Rachel b. IL, father b. Ohio, and mother b. Indiana. > > Does anyone know who Ben F Dixon found to be the parents of Rachel Maria > Kinkade? > > This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL > census. Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois > > 1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a. 25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5, b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL > > Also, the 1860 BUREAU COUNTY,IL census shows a > Hannah Kincade, a. 22 Housework, b. Ohio > living in the household of Annanias White a. 36 and wife Sarah White a. 32 > both born in PA. Above Annanias/Sarah White were Daniel White a. 33 b. PA > and brother? Henderson White a. 28 b. OH. > It looks like these two White families moved to Illinois after 1857, > according to their children's info. > > I can't find Isaac Kinkead in the 1850 national censuses, nor in the 1880 > census > > BUREAU COUNTY, IL is next to and southwest of STARK COUNTY, IL. See next > article about the Dixon family. > http://ilgenweb.net/ilgenmap.html > ***************************************************** > > This is what Ben F. Dixon wrote about his Dixon ancestors: > "I know that he was born in Ohio; that he had spent his boyhood days on a > farm adjacent to my mother's childhood home in Stark County, Ill.; and > that Grandfather Elisha Dixon had been a soldier of the Civil War. Vaguely > I recalled the name of his brothers and sisters, my aunts Sophia, Eva, and > Emma, and my uncles Ollie and Frank, -- and some of his uncles and aunts: > David and Jane Ray; Joe and Frankie Nicholas; Wayne and Harrison Dixon. > But from the time of his death in 1900, until Thanksgiving Day, 1931, I > knew little more than this. > > On the latter date, with my family, I was at my mother's home at Kahoka, > Mo., the town where I was born and reared. I was regretting the fact that > I knew nothing of the Dixon's family , when mother said, "If you will get > out your father's old ledger, you will fine a record of the Dixon Family > that he and his mother put down there years ago, "We found the old ledger, > and located in my father's handwriting six or eight pages of family > records that had been entered there 40 or 50 years before. It was an open > aces to a vast acquaintance with his people and their history.. > > Letters to his living brothers and sisters brought me to names of many > cousins I had never heard of, One of these, Jonne Johnson, a lawyer of > Milwaukee, found in the library there a volume called "Kith and Kin". It > was published in Los Angeles in 1922, by Willis Wilner Dixon. And it set > forth the records of the family of William Dixson, son of Henry and Rose > Dixson of County Armagh, Ireland. In 1688, William Dixson, a Quaker, came > to Delaware with Penn's immigrants, and married in Newcastle County, Ann, > daughter of William Gregg, > > Working out the lines from both ends of the chain, it was my good fortune, > in less than three years, to trace the line of descent accurately, from > William Dixson the Quaker Immigrant, to Pearly Nicholas Dixon, my father. > > http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Dixon.htm > > ******************************************************* > > 1850 VINTON COUNTY, OH Census: > > Elisha Dixon a. 27 b, OH and wife Lydia Dixon a. 25, b. OH family with > Sophia a. 4, Francis a. 2 and son Perly a. 1 month A Rachel Dixon, widow > a. 53 b. NC and her children, all born OH were next to Elisha/Lydia Dixon > family in the 1850 Vinton County, OH census. > > 1860 STARK COUNTY, IL Census, Essex Township > > Elisha Dixon a. 37, farmer b. OH > > Lydia Dixon, a. 35. b. OH > > Children: Sophia a. 15; Francis M a. 12; Pearley a. 11; all born Ohio, > and Eveline a. 6 born IL > > . > > 1870 PAGE COUNTY, IOWA census, Washington Township > > Dixon, Elisha a. 47 farmer, b. Ohio > > Dixon, Lydia a. 45 b. OH > > Children: Francis a. 22, M b.OH; Pearley a. 20, M b. OH; Eva a. 17 b. > IL; Emma a. 9 b. IL; Oliver a. 2, b. IL > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------Tounsubscribefromthelist,pleasesendan emailtoKINCAID-request@rootsweb.comwiththeword'unsubscribe'withoutthequotesin the subject and the bodyofthemessage

In support of Norman's theory of James Woodburn Kinkead's connection to the Dickinson Township Kincaids I located the following family history of James Woodburn of Dickinson Township. Following is some other tidbits relating to this family of James Woodburn. From Biographical Annals of Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, Chicago: The Genealogical Publishing Co., 1905, pages 666-669 JOHN H. WOODBURN. On March 27, 1772, James Woodburn, of Colerain township, Lancaster county, bought from Timothy Hosfield, of Bethlehem, Northampton county, 280 acres of land. The land is described in the deed as adjoining lands of Robert Dunning in Pennsboro township, Cumberland county. This is the first appearance of the Woodburn name upon the records of Cumberland county. The purchaser soon afterward removed to this property for the tax list of West Pennsboro the next year shows him taxed with this land and also with personal property. James Woodburn continues taxed with practically the same amount of land from that time down to 1786, when he disappears. The next year a John Woodburn, who for several years had been listed as "freeman" in West Pennsboro, is taxed with the same amount of land that James Woodburn had been taxed with, and continues taxed with it for some years to come. The fact that the property which belonged for so many years to James Woodburn descended to John Woodburn is a pretty safe indication that John was the son of James, and his natural and legal heir. This John Woodburn lived in the locality known as "The Richlands," in the northern CUMBERLAND COUNTY. 667 part of what is now Dickinson township. According to tradition the family came from Ireland, but whether before or after John was born cannot now be determined. The family seem to have first settled in Lancaster county. James, the father, probably died about the year 1787, leaving two sons, John and Samuel. He may also have had other children, but whether he did and who they were is not definitely known. Samuel never married, and for a number of years the two brothers lived together and jointly farmed the lands which they inherited from their father. Afterward they divided the estate, and each farmed his own portion. They belonged to what was long known as the "Old Seceder" Church, which stood near the "Stone House", in Dickinson township, and it is probable that the remains of their parents are buried in the graveyard of that Church. Samuel died in November, 1834, in his sixty-ninth year; and John died Jan. 11, 1846, at the great age of ninety-two years. Their remains rest in the same lot in the graveyard of the United Presbyterian Church at Newville. This John Woodburn was the grandfather of John H. Woodburn, the subject of this biographical sketch. He married Mary Skiles, who died Jan. 16, 1836, at the age of seventy-two years, and is buried by the side of her husband in the graveyard at Newville. John Woodburn and Mary Skiles, his wife, had the following children: James, born July 1, 1788; Jane, born Nov. 29, 1790; Samuel, born March 27, 1791; Skiles; Rebecca, born Aug. 11, 1802; Thomas Smith; Emily. James Woodburn, the eldest son, through association with the militia, acquired the title of "Colonel", and was long familiarly known as "Colonel Woodburn." On Jan. 20, 1814, he married Eliza Jacobs, and formany years lived on a farm on the north side of the Conedoguinet Creek, near what is known as Jacobs' Bridge. He had three daughters, one of whom, Jane, married James Paxton Woods. The other two were twins, Mary and Elizabeth, of whom Mary married Levi Trego, and Elizabeth married Jacob Trego. Levi and Jacob Trego were brothers. Jane Woodburn, the eldest daughter of John and Mary (Skiles) Woodburn, married Alexander Davidson, who died Oct. 19, 1865. She died Aug. 1, 1879, and both are buried in the cemetery of the Big Spring Church at Newville. Samuel Woodburn, the second son, while yet a boy, cut his knee and was so badly lamed that he had to walk with crutches during the rest of his life. He was a large, heavy man, and notwithstanding his lameness was quite agile. He took much interest in public affairs, and in 1833 Governor Wolf appointed him Register of Wills. In 1851 he was elected Associate Judge, and in 1856 re-elected. For a long time he lived on the property on the York Road in South Middleton township known as the Weakley farm. On Jan. 7, 1820, Samuel Woodburn married Elizabeth, daughter of James Weakley, by whom he had two children, a daughter who married a McColloch; and another, Mary S., who married Joseph McKee. His first wife dying he married (second) Jane Brown, by whom he had two children, Thomas, who died young, and Jane, who married Captain Thomas McGregor, of the United States army. Judge Woodburn died Oct. 7, 1860, and is buried in the Old Grave Yard at Carlisle. Rebecca married David Sterett. Emily married Matthew Davidson. Thomas Smith Woodburn, the youngest son of John and Mary (Skiles) Woodburn, was born April 20, 1807, on the Woodburn 668 CUMBERLAND COUNTY. homestead in "The Richlands." He married Margaret Craighead, daughter of Thomas and Rebecca (Weakley) Craighead, a lineal descendant of the Rev. Thomas Craighead, who was the first pastor of the Presbyterian congregation west of the Susquehanna river in the Cumberland Valley. Her great-grandfather, John Craighead, in 1742, purchased a large tract of land upon the Yellow Breeches creek, four miles south of where Carlisle now is, upon which the family have lived through five successive generations. After his marriage Thomas S. Woodburn engaged at farming on the Woodburn farm in "The Richlands," where he continued to reside until his death. He died Oct. 11, 1839, while yet a young man, and his remains are buried in the graveyard of the United Presbyterian Church at Newville. Thomas Smith and Margaret (Craighead) Woodburn had children as follows: John H.; Thomas Craighead, born Aug. 16, 1835; James Skiles, born April 9, 1837; Rebecca, born Jan. 7, 1839. After the death of Thomas S. Woodburn his widow married Major Joseph Trego, Jan. 11, 1844, and by him had four children. She died March 30, 1880, and is buried in Ashland Cemetery at Carlisle. Thomas C. Woodburn, the second son of Thomas S. and Margaret (Craighead) Woodburn, became a lawyer and practiced at Baltimore, where he died. He left one daughter, who is now the wife of Joseph Miller, an engineer on the Philadelphia & Reading railroad, living at Harrisburg. James Skiles Woodburn, the third son, was a member of Company F, 13th Pennsylvania Cavalry, and served three years in the late Civil war, nineteen months of which time he was a prisoner at Richmond and Andersonville. Rebecca Woodburn, the only daughter, married Archibald Thompson, who settled at Amador City, California, where she died in 1902. John H. Woodburn, the eldest child of the family, was born on the Woodburn ancestral home in "The Richlands," July 22, 1832, and lived there until he was almost eight years of age. Soon after his father died he went to the home of his aunts, the Misses Jane, Mary and Rachel Craighead, and there grew to manhood. He was educated in the country district school, and in the Academy at Newville, and later in the Burns Academy, which for some years existed where now is Elliottson Station. When about twenty years of age he began farming on the farm on which he still resides. It then belonged to his aunts, but afterward he bought 116 acres of it, erected new buildings upon it, planted trees and added other improvements which have made it a first-class modern farm, and also a very comfortable and beautiful home. Here he has contentedly lived since 1860, devoting himself to his family and quietly discharging the duties of a good citizen. On March 22, 1860, Mr. Woodburn was married to Agnes L. Weakley, by the Rev. W. W. Eel, pastor of the Second Presbyterian Church of Carlisle. Agnes L. Weakley was a daughter of Nathaniel and Sarah (Bell) Weakley, and a lineal descendant of a James Weakley who settled upon the Yellow Breeches creek, in the territory now included in Dickinson township as early as 1724. To John H. and Agnes (Weakley) Woodburn came one child, Sallie Weakley, born June 5, 1861, who has always lived in the home of her parents. On Jan. 19, 1888, Sallie W. Woodburn was married to George Edmund Searight, the Rev. Dr. Norcross, pastor of the Second Presbyterian Church CUMBERLAND COUNTY. 669 of Carlisle, performing the ceremony. George E. Searight is a son of the late Andrew K. and Amanda A. (Graham) Searight, and was born in South Middleton township, Sept. 25, 1861. He is a descendant of a Gilbert Searight, who, prior to the war of the Revolution, came from the North of Ireland and settled four miles west of Carlisle. George E. and Sallie (Woodburn) Searight have the following children: Agnes Weakley, born May 31, 1890; John H. Woodburn, born Dec. 29, 1893. Mrs. Agnes Woodburn died Aug. 26, 1903, and her remains were laid to rest in Ashland Cemetery at Carlisle. During the following year, on June 9, 1904, George E. Searight died after a brief illness, and his remains were interred in Ashland cemetery. Since then the two grandchildren, and their mother, comprise all of the little family that are the care and pride of Mr. Woodburn's declining years. http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/cumberland/bios/zeamer/woodburn-john-h.txt 169. An act for the relief of JAMES WOODBURN. Whereas, James Woodburn of Cumberland county, purchased a tract of unseated land in Mifflin twp., at treasurer's sale, taxed in the name of DANIEL BOYLE, as original warrantee, and he paid the purchase price, and it appears that the owner of the land at the time of sale, has since come forward and received the purchase money, after taxes and cost of sale were deducted, and the time which the treasurer could serve expired before he acknowledged the deed for the land, therefore, the present treasurer is herby required to make, execute and deliver a deed to James Woodburn. 28 Mar 1814. http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/1pa/xmisc/1814laws.txt JACOB, THOMAS, farmer, Mifflin. December 5, 1814. August 1, 1815. Wife Jane. Son in law Robert McFarlane. Children of dau. Mary, decd., who was intermarried with Alexander Brown, Esq. Dau. Eliza wife of James Woodburn. Sons David and Joseph and Thomas. Exs.: Sons Joseph and David Jacob. Wit.: Jno. Geddis, John Shannon, Junr. H. 342. http://swoodbridge.com/Genealogy/Wills/McFarland-PA-Wills.txt DEYERMOND, HENRY, Newville. August 7, 1804. October 10, 1804. Wife Deborah. Son in law Hugh Wallace and his wife Margaret. Grandson Thomas Wallace, son of Hugh Wallace. Son in law John Love and his wife Elizabeth. Son in law John Highlands and Sarah his wife. Son in law John Murphy and Anne his wife. Exs: Major James Woodburn and James Ross, both of Newville. Wit: William McCandlish, William T. Hays, William Richey. G. 45. http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/cumberland/wills/willbkg.txt Samuel Morrow - Will 1800 Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Will number 181 1/2 - Samuel Morrow In the name of God amen I Samuel Murrey of the Township of Mifflin County of Cumberland and State of Pennsylvania Being old and very frail in Body though Blessed be God possesed of a sound Disposing judgement and memory; now calling to mind the mortality of my body And knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die Do this twenty first Day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred make and ordain this my last Will and testament as follows to witt that is to say firstly do commit and Recommend My Soul at Death to God who gave it and My Body to be Buried in a Decent manner at the discretion of my Executors and as touching what worldly Goods it has pleased God to Bless me with I do dispose of them as follows to witt of what I am possesed of at my Death I Do allow My Executors to put all into cash after my decease and that to be Equally Divided Amongst my three Daughters Elizabeth Sarah and Jean Excepting my Books which I bequeath in Manner following to witt Item to my grandson Samuel Maxwell I Bequeath Mr. Edwards on Redemption Item to my grandson Samuel Kilgore I Bequeath Mr. Ambrose Looking to Jesus Item to my grandson Samuel Ackman I Bequeath ______ Heyward on Cases of Consience Item to my son Willm I give and Bequeath my Large Bible To my Beloved wife Jean I do give and Bequeath Mr. Willisons Sacramental Meditations her bed and _____ and her apperal And the Remains of my Books to be equally divided amongst my three daughters above named And further I impower my trusty friends Robert Lusk and James Woodburn to Execute this my last will and testament and I Do Declare this to be my last will and testament by me made in witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year first above written. Samuel Murrey Signed sealed and Declared in the presence of us Willm Montgomery John hisOmark Galbreath http://kylefamily.us/id101_m.htm Carlisle, March 28, 1823 ... On Thursday the 13th inst. by the Rev.F. Pringle, Mr. DAVID STERRET, jun. of Mifflin township, to Miss RACHEL WOODBURN, dauhterof Mr. James Woodburn.of Dickinson township. The Religious Miscellany: Containing information relative to the Church of Christ; together with interesting literary and political notices which occur in the world. Vol I. Carlisle: Fleming and Geddes, 1823. p. 176 Best wishes! Peter A. Kincaid Fredericton, NB, Canada

Those Kincaids in a Group descend from a common ancestor. Our samples would radiate from this common point and different branches will emerge. One can work things out. There is a program that makes things easier. It is called Fluxus. I inputed all the DNA results and it constructs a tree. Based on 67 markers, there is a branch going from the common ancestor to my sample. Closer to the common ancestor is your 15550. Further down the branch towards me is a branch which 2519 descends from. Thus, my Kincaids (as well as other Londonderry Kincaids) and 2519 share a common ancestor with your line. Sample 4164 is on another branch from the common ancestor. Hence, I say that 2519 is closer to 15550 than 4164. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA > As a descendant of 15550, I was wondering at what marker you would > determine > who is a closer relationship or do you count by exact matches? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland > County, PA > > >>I don't see sample 15550 as being closely related to your >> 4164. Sample 15550 is closer to 2519. >> >> Peter >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland >> County, PA >> >> >>> Hempfield Township is south of Salem and southwest of Derry Township and >>> northwest of Mount Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County, PA where >>> Andrew >>> Kincaid & John Kincaid, sons of George Kincaid reside in 1790. Andrew >>> being first there in 1783. Also I am looking at where sample [15550] >>> falls, into Group A, where my sample 4164 falls.

Here is what I have for James Kinkead of West Pennsboro, later Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA.  James Kinkead & James Kinkead Jr. are dead sometime between 1810 and 1820. The McClarens are included because they are in West Pennsboro and serve with James Kinkead in the Cumberland County, PA Militia and Mary Kinkead, daughter of George Kinkead, married Matthew McClaren which indicates a connection between the Kincaids in Sherman's Valley and those in West Pennsboro. 1774 James Kinkead, [15550] freeman, taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA.           Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1775 John Kincaid [15550] born to James Kinkead [15550] & wife, of West Pennsborough, Cumberland                 County, PA. Extrapolation 1777 James Kinkead, [15550] private, 1st Class, 5th Company commanded by Capt. Mathew Gregg, 2nd             Battalion, Cumberland County, PA Militia by order of Council July 20, 1777. Active Duty Militia.  Record         proves active duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File 1777 James Kinkead, [15550] private, Capt. Matthew Gregg’s Company, 1st Battalion, Cumberland County,         PA Militia, called out by order of Council, July 28, 1777. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 2, v. 15, p. 564. 1777 James Kinkead, private, 3rd Class, 2nd Company commanded by Capt. Samuel Patton, 6th Battalion,         Cumberland County, PA Militia, delinquent, by order of Council, Oct. 23, 1777.   Record does not prove         active duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card File 1777 James McClaren, private, Capt. Matthew Gregg’s Company, 1st Battalion, Cumberland County, PA             Militia, called out by  order of Council, July 28, 1777. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 2, v. 15, p.  564. 1778 James Kinkead [15550] taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1 horse, 2         cows.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 20, p. 237. 1779 James Kinkead [15550] taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1 horse, 2         cows.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 20, p. 237.. 1779 James McClarin taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA for 150 acres, 2                 horses, 5 cows.  Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 20, p. 238. 1779 Hugh McClarin, freeman, taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA.                         Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 20, p. 243. 1779 Matthew McClarin, freeman, taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA.                     Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 20, p. 243. 1781 James Kinkead [15550] taxed in West Pennsborough Township, Cumberland County, PA for 1 horse, 1         cow.   Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 20, p. 504. 1781 James Kinkade [15550] in account of 1st Class, 4th Company, 2nd Battalion, Cumberland County, PA         Militia, called to do a tour of duty, June 27, 1781. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 23, p. 736; s. 5, v. 6,         p. 288. 1781 Mary Kinkead, [4164] daughter of George Kinkead [4164] of Toboyne Township, Cumberland County,             PA, married Matthew McCleran, January 4, 1781, Centre Presbyterian Church,  Sherman’s Valley,                 Cumberland County, PA, Rev. Linn’s Marriages. 1784 James Kinkead [15550] born to James Kinkead [15550] & wife in West Pennsborough Township,                 Cumberland County, PA. Extrapolation 1785 James Kincaid, [15550] Cumberland County, PA Militia received 10 pounds, 10 shillings per certificate         #7354 issued November 11, 1785. Record proves active duty. Pennsylvania State Archives Online Card         File 1786 Thomas Kinkaid [15550] born in 1786 in Penn., to (probably) James Kinkead [15550] of West                     Pennsborough, Cumberland County, PA, died Dec. 15, 1860,  age 74, buried in the Old Carlisle                     Cemetery, Cumberland County, PA.  Husband of Sarah Kinkaid. 1790 James Kinkaid, [15550] Hopewell, Newton, Tyborn, & West Pennsborough Townships, Cumberland             County, PA, 1 male over 16, 4 males under 16, 2 females. USFC, p. 78. 1795 David Kincaid [15550] born to (probably) James Kinkead [15550] & wife in Cumberland County, PA, at         age 47, died Dec. 22, 1842 in Franklin County, PA, former resident of Cumberland County, PA.                      Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA, card file. 1796 John Kincaid [15550] married Mary Lee at First Presbyterian Church, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA         on April 27, 1796. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1800 James Kinkead, [15550] Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 26-45, 2         males 10-16, 1 female over 45, 1 female 16-25. USFC, 108:04. 1806 Eliza Jane Kincaid [15550] born to John Kincaid [15550] and Mary Lee in Dickinson Township,                     Cumberland County, PA, on March 14, 1806. Biographical Annals of Cumberland County, PA, 1905, pp.         124-125. 1807 John Kinkead, [15550] farmer, Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, listed in 1807 Septennial         Census. Cumberland County  Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1807 James Kinkead, [15550] weaver, Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, listed in 1807                     Septennial Census. Cumberland County  Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1807 James Kinkead, Jr., [15550] laborer, Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA listed in 1807                 Septennial Census. Cumberland County  Historical Society, Carlisle, PA 1809 James Kinkaide [15550] married Diana Lee Nov.. 9, 1809, by Rev. Williams at the Big Springs                     Presbyterian Church, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA,             Church Records 1810 James Kinkede, Sr., [15550] Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male over 45,          1 male under 10, 2 males 16-26, 1 female over 45, 1 female 16-26.  USFC, p. 024. 1810 James Kinkede, Jr., [15550] Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male 16-26, 1 female over         45. USFC, p. 024. 1810 John Kenkede, [15550] Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male 16-26, 1 male 10-16, 2             males under 10, 1 female 16-26,  1 female 10-16, 1 female under 10. USFC, p. 024. 1811 James Woodburn Kinkead [15550] born May 11, 1811, (probably) to John Kincaid [15550] and Mary Lee         in Cumberland County, PA May 2, 1811, died Dec. 18, 1862 in West Point, Illinois.  Margie von                     Marenholtz, Descendants of James Woodburn Kinkaid. 1815 Mary Kincade [15550] married Jacob Baker on Nov. 23, 1815 by Rev. Williams at Big Springs                     Presbyterian Church, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA,             Church Records. 1817 William Kinkaide [15550] married Elizabeth Scoby on April 1, 1817 by Rev. Williams at Big Springs             Presbyterian Church, Cumberland County, PA. Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA,             Church Records. 1820 John Kincade, [15550] Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 16-25, 2         males 10-15, 1 female 26-44,  1 female 10-15. USFC. 1820 William Kinked, [15550] Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, 2 males 16-25, 2 males 10-15,         1 female 16-25. USFC. 1822 William Kinkaid [15550] born to William Kinkaid [15550] & wife, Elizabeth Scoby on March 8, 1822 in             Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA, in 1880 Census in Gorham Township, Fulton County,             OH.  USFC, 1880, p. 9B. Fulton County, Ohio, Historical Atlas, 1875 Personal Histories. 1827 Eliza Jane Kincaid, [15550] daughter of John Kincaid [15550] and Mary Lee of Dickinson Township,             Cumberland County, PA, married Samuel Maxon Kenyon on Nov. 15, 1827 by Dr. George Duffield in             Carlisle, PA.  One of their children was named James Woodburn Kenyon. Biographical Annals of                 Cumberland County, PA, 1905, pp. 124-125. 1830 David Kinkaid, [15550] South Middleton Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male 30-40, 1 male 20-            30, 1 male 5-10, 2 males  under 5, 1 female 20-30, 1 female under 5. USFC, p. 33. 1830 Dinah Kincaid, [15550] Southampton Township, Cumberland County, PA, 1 female 15-20, 1 female 40-        50. USFC. 1830 John Kincaid, [15550] Mechanicsburg, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male 50-60, 1 male 20-30, 1 male             15-20, 1 female 40-50, 1 female 5-10. USFC, p. 136. 1830 William Kincaid, [15550] Mechanicsburg, Cumberland County, PA, 1 male 40-50, 1 male 10-15, 2                 males 5-10, 2 males under 5, 1 female 30-40, 1 female 5-10. USFC, p. 135. 1840 Eliza Jane Kinkade [15550] born on January 17, 1840 to James Kinkaid [15550] & Margaret Kuhns in             Cumberland County, PA.  Marguerite von Marenholtz, Descendants of James Woodburn Kinkaid. 1842 David Kincaid, [15550] age 47, died Dec. 22, 1842 in Franklin County, PA, former resident of                         Cumberland County, PA.  Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA, card file. 1843 David Kinkade [15550] born to James Woodburn Kinkaid [15550] & wife, Margaret T. Kuhns on August         11, 1843 in Greensburg, Hempfield Township, Westmoreland County, PA.  Marguerite von Marenholtz,         Descendants of James Woodburn Kinkaid.  I think James named his next child after his brother. 1845 Diana Kincaid, Mrs., wife of James Kincaid, [15550] died at her son-in-law David Blaine's home in                 Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA in March 22, 1845.  Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle,         PA Cumberland County, PA 1850 Betsy Kenkade, [15550] age 68, born PA, brickmaker, Upper Dickinson Township, Cumberland County,         PA. USFC, Roll 772, p. 118. 1850 Mary Kinkaid, [15550] age 74, born PA, Lower Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA. USFC,             Roll 772, p. 126. 1850 William Kinkaid, [15550] age 50, born PA, farmer, Lower Dickinson Township, Cumberland County,             PA.   USFC, Roll 772, p. 127. 1850 Jane Kinkaid, age 30, born PA, Lower Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA. USFC, Roll 772,         p. 127. 1850 Thomas Kinkaid, [15550] age 24, born PA, Lower Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA. USFC,         Roll 772, p. 127. 1850 William Kinkaid, [15550] age 21, born PA, Lower Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA. USFC,         Roll 772, p. 127. 1850 Ann Kinkaid, [15550] age 14, born PA, Lower Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA. USFC,             Roll 772, p. 127. 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [15550] age 63, born PA, laborer, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. USFC, p. 362. 1850 Sarah Kincaid, age 50, born PA, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. USFC, p. 362. 1850 Pricilla Kincaid, [15550] age 17, born PA, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. USFC, p. 362. 1850 Jane Kincaid, [15550] age 14, born PA, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. USFC, p. 362. 1850 Elizabeth Kincaid, [15550] age 11, born PA, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA. USFC, p. 362. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:19:23 PM Subject: [KINCAID] James Woodburn of Dickinson Township, Cumberland Co., PA In support of Norman's theory of James Woodburn Kinkead's connection to the Dickinson Township Kincaids I located the following family history of James Woodburn of Dickinson Township.  Following is some other tidbits relating to this family of James Woodburn. >From Biographical Annals of Cumberland County, Pennsylvania,   Chicago: The Genealogical Publishing Co., 1905, pages 666-669     JOHN H. WOODBURN. On March 27, 1772, James Woodburn, of Colerain township,   Lancaster county, bought from Timothy Hosfield, of Bethlehem, Northampton   county, 280 acres of land. The land is described in the deed as adjoining   lands of Robert Dunning in Pennsboro township, Cumberland county. This is   the first appearance of the Woodburn name upon the records of Cumberland   county. The purchaser soon afterward removed to this property for the tax   list of West Pennsboro the next year shows him taxed with this land and also   with personal property. James Woodburn continues taxed with practically the   same amount of land from that time down to 1786, when he disappears. The next   year a John Woodburn, who for several years had been listed as "freeman" in   West Pennsboro, is taxed with the same amount of land that James Woodburn had   been taxed with, and continues taxed with it for some years to come. The fact   that the property which belonged for so many years to James Woodburn   descended to John Woodburn is a pretty safe indication that John was the son   of James, and his natural and legal heir.     This John Woodburn lived in the locality known as "The Richlands," in the   northern     CUMBERLAND COUNTY..  667   part of what is now Dickinson township. According to tradition the family   came from Ireland, but whether before or after John was born cannot now be   determined. The family seem to have first settled in Lancaster county. James,   the father, probably died about the year 1787, leaving two sons, John and   Samuel. He may also have had other children, but whether he did and who they   were is not definitely known. Samuel never married, and for a number of years   the two brothers lived together and jointly farmed the lands which they   inherited from their father. Afterward they divided the estate, and each   farmed his own portion. They belonged to what was long known as the "Old   Seceder" Church, which stood near the "Stone House", in Dickinson township,   and it is probable that the remains of their parents are buried in the   graveyard of that Church. Samuel died in November, 1834, in his sixty-ninth   year; and John died Jan. 11, 1846, at the great age of ninety-two years.   Their remains rest in the same lot in the graveyard of the United   Presbyterian Church at Newville.     This John Woodburn was the grandfather of John H. Woodburn, the subject of   this biographical sketch. He married Mary Skiles, who died Jan. 16, 1836, at   the age of seventy-two years, and is buried by the side of her husband in the   graveyard at Newville. John Woodburn and Mary Skiles, his wife, had the   following children: James, born July 1, 1788; Jane, born Nov. 29, 1790;   Samuel, born March 27, 1791; Skiles; Rebecca, born Aug. 11, 1802; Thomas   Smith; Emily.     James Woodburn, the eldest son, through association with the militia,   acquired the title of "Colonel", and was long familiarly known as "Colonel   Woodburn." On Jan. 20, 1814, he married Eliza Jacobs, and formany years lived   on a farm on the north side of the Conedoguinet Creek, near what is known as   Jacobs' Bridge. He had three daughters, one of whom, Jane, married James   Paxton Woods. The other two were twins, Mary and Elizabeth, of whom Mary   married Levi Trego, and Elizabeth married Jacob Trego. Levi and Jacob Trego   were brothers.     Jane Woodburn, the eldest daughter of John and Mary (Skiles) Woodburn,   married Alexander Davidson, who died Oct. 19, 1865. She died Aug. 1, 1879,   and both are buried in the cemetery of the Big Spring Church at Newville.     Samuel Woodburn, the second son, while yet a boy, cut his knee and was so   badly lamed that he had to walk with crutches during the rest of his life. He   was a large, heavy man, and notwithstanding his lameness was quite agile. He   took much interest in public affairs, and in 1833 Governor Wolf appointed him   Register of Wills. In 1851 he was elected Associate Judge, and in 1856   re-elected. For a long time he lived on the property on the York Road in   South Middleton township known as the Weakley farm. On Jan. 7, 1820, Samuel   Woodburn married Elizabeth, daughter of James Weakley, by whom he had two   children, a daughter who married a McColloch; and another, Mary S., who   married Joseph McKee. His first wife dying he married (second) Jane Brown, by   whom he had two children, Thomas, who died young, and Jane, who married   Captain Thomas McGregor, of the United States army. Judge Woodburn died Oct.   7, 1860, and is buried in the Old Grave Yard at Carlisle. Rebecca married   David Sterett. Emily married Matthew Davidson. Thomas Smith Woodburn, the   youngest son of John and Mary (Skiles) Woodburn, was born April 20, 1807, on   the Woodburn     668  CUMBERLAND COUNTY.   homestead in "The Richlands.." He married Margaret Craighead, daughter of   Thomas and Rebecca (Weakley) Craighead, a lineal descendant of the Rev.   Thomas Craighead, who was the first pastor of the Presbyterian congregation   west of the Susquehanna river in the Cumberland Valley. Her   great-grandfather, John Craighead, in 1742, purchased a large tract of land   upon the Yellow Breeches creek, four miles south of where Carlisle now is,   upon which the family have lived through five successive generations. After   his marriage Thomas S. Woodburn engaged at farming on the Woodburn farm in   "The Richlands," where he continued to reside until his death. He died Oct.   11, 1839, while yet a young man, and his remains are buried in the graveyard   of the United Presbyterian Church at Newville.     Thomas Smith and Margaret (Craighead) Woodburn had children as follows:   John H.; Thomas Craighead, born Aug. 16, 1835; James Skiles, born April 9,   1837; Rebecca, born Jan. 7, 1839. After the death of Thomas S. Woodburn his   widow married Major Joseph Trego, Jan. 11, 1844, and by him had four   children. She died March 30, 1880, and is buried in Ashland Cemetery at   Carlisle.     Thomas C. Woodburn, the second son of Thomas S. and Margaret (Craighead)   Woodburn, became a lawyer and practiced at Baltimore, where he died. He left   one daughter, who is now the wife of Joseph Miller, an engineer on the   Philadelphia & Reading railroad, living at Harrisburg.     James Skiles Woodburn, the third son, was a member of Company F, 13th   Pennsylvania Cavalry, and served three years in the late Civil war, nineteen   months of which time he was a prisoner at Richmond and Andersonville.     Rebecca Woodburn, the only daughter, married Archibald Thompson, who   settled at Amador City, California, where she died in 1902.     John H. Woodburn, the eldest child of the family, was born on the Woodburn   ancestral home in "The Richlands," July 22, 1832, and lived there until he   was almost eight years of age. Soon after his father died he went to the home   of his aunts, the Misses Jane, Mary and Rachel Craighead, and there grew to   manhood. He was educated in the country district school, and in the Academy   at Newville, and later in the Burns Academy, which for some years existed   where now is Elliottson Station. When about twenty years of age he began   farming on the farm on which he still resides. It then belonged to his aunts,   but afterward he bought 116 acres of it, erected new buildings upon it,   planted trees and added other improvements which have made it a first-class   modern farm, and also a very comfortable and beautiful home. Here he has   contentedly lived since 1860, devoting himself to his family and quietly   discharging the duties of a good citizen.     On March 22, 1860, Mr. Woodburn was married to Agnes L. Weakley, by the   Rev. W. W. Eel, pastor of the Second Presbyterian Church of Carlisle. Agnes   L. Weakley was a daughter of Nathaniel and Sarah (Bell) Weakley, and a lineal   descendant of a James Weakley who settled upon the Yellow Breeches creek, in   the territory now included in Dickinson township as early as 1724. To John H.   and Agnes (Weakley) Woodburn came one child, Sallie Weakley, born June 5,   1861, who has always lived in the home of her parents. On Jan. 19, 1888,   Sallie W. Woodburn was married to George Edmund Searight, the Rev. Dr.   Norcross, pastor of the Second Presbyterian Church     CUMBERLAND COUNTY.  669   of Carlisle, performing the ceremony. George E. Searight is a son of the late   Andrew K. and Amanda A. (Graham) Searight, and was born in South Middleton   township, Sept. 25, 1861. He is a descendant of a Gilbert Searight, who,   prior to the war of the Revolution, came from the North of Ireland and   settled four miles west of Carlisle.     George E. and Sallie (Woodburn) Searight have the following children: Agnes   Weakley, born May 31, 1890; John H. Woodburn, born Dec. 29, 1893. Mrs. Agnes   Woodburn died Aug. 26, 1903, and her remains were laid to rest in Ashland   Cemetery at Carlisle. During the following year, on June 9, 1904, George E.   Searight died after a brief illness, and his remains were interred in Ashland   cemetery. Since then the two grandchildren, and their mother, comprise all of   the little family that are the care and pride of Mr. Woodburn's declining   years. http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/cumberland/bios/zeamer/woodburn-john-h.txt 169. An act for the relief of JAMES  WOODBURN. Whereas, James Woodburn of Cumberland county, purchased a tract of unseated land in Mifflin twp., at treasurer's sale, taxed in the name of DANIEL BOYLE, as original warrantee, and he paid the purchase price, and it appears that the owner of the land at the time of sale, has since come forward and received the purchase money, after taxes and cost of sale were deducted, and the time which the treasurer could serve expired before he acknowledged the deed for the land, therefore, the present treasurer is herby required to make, execute and deliver a deed to James Woodburn.  28 Mar 1814. http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/1pa/xmisc/1814laws.txt JACOB, THOMAS, farmer, Mifflin.  December 5, 1814. August 1, 1815. Wife Jane. Son in law Robert McFarlane. Children of dau. Mary, decd., who was intermarried with Alexander Brown, Esq. Dau. Eliza wife of James Woodburn. Sons David and Joseph and Thomas. Exs.:  Sons Joseph and David Jacob. Wit.:  Jno. Geddis, John Shannon, Junr.  H. 342. http://swoodbridge.com/Genealogy/Wills/McFarland-PA-Wills.txt DEYERMOND, HENRY, Newville. August 7, 1804. October 10, 1804. Wife Deborah. Son in law Hugh Wallace and his wife Margaret. Grandson Thomas Wallace, son of Hugh Wallace. Son in law John Love and his wife Elizabeth. Son in law John Highlands and Sarah his wife. Son in law John Murphy and Anne his wife. Exs:  Major James Woodburn and James Ross, both of Newville. Wit:  William McCandlish, William T. Hays, William Richey.  G. 45. http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/cumberland/wills/willbkg.txt Samuel Morrow - Will 1800 Cumberland County, Pennsylvania Will number 181 1/2 -  Samuel Morrow In the name of God amen  I Samuel Murrey of the Township of Mifflin County of Cumberland and State of Pennsylvania  Being old and very frail in Body though Blessed be God possesed of a sound Disposing judgement and memory;  now calling to mind the mortality of my body And knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die Do this twenty first Day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred make and ordain this my last Will and testament as follows to witt that is to say firstly do commit and Recommend My Soul at Death to God who gave it and My Body to be Buried  in a Decent manner at the discretion of my Executors and as touching what worldly Goods it has pleased God to Bless me with I do dispose of them as follows to witt    of what I am possesed of at my Death I Do allow My Executors to put all into cash after my decease and that to be Equally Divided Amongst my three Daughters Elizabeth  Sarah and Jean Excepting my Books which I bequeath in Manner following to witt Item  to my grandson Samuel Maxwell I Bequeath Mr. Edwards on Redemption Item  to my grandson Samuel Kilgore I Bequeath Mr. Ambrose  Looking to Jesus Item  to my grandson Samuel Ackman I Bequeath ______ Heyward on Cases of Consience Item  to my son Willm I give and Bequeath my Large Bible To my Beloved wife Jean I do give and Bequeath Mr. Willisons Sacramental Meditations her bed and _____ and her apperal And the Remains of my Books to be equally divided amongst my three daughters above named And further I impower my trusty friends Robert Lusk and James Woodburn to Execute this my last will and testament and I Do Declare this to be my last will and testament by me made in witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year first above written. Samuel Murrey Signed sealed and Declared in the presence of us  Willm Montgomery John hisOmark Galbreath http://kylefamily.us/id101_m.htm Carlisle, March 28, 1823 ... On Thursday the 13th inst. by the Rev.F. Pringle, Mr. DAVID STERRET, jun. of Mifflin township, to Miss RACHEL WOODBURN, dauhterof Mr. James Woodburn.of Dickinson township. The Religious Miscellany: Containing information relative to the Church of Christ; together with interesting literary and political notices which occur in the world.  Vol I. Carlisle: Fleming and Geddes, 1823.  p. 176 Best wishes! Peter A. Kincaid Fredericton, NB, Canada To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Peter. I haven't contributed lately to the List but read all the messages every day. It was nice to read about my 15550 - thank you for clarifying the DNA connection. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA > Those Kincaids in a Group descend from a common > ancestor. Our samples would radiate from this > common point and different branches will emerge. > One can work things out. There is a program that > makes things easier. It is called Fluxus. I inputed > all the DNA results and it constructs a tree. Based > on 67 markers, there is a branch going from the > common ancestor to my sample. Closer to the > common ancestor is your 15550. Further down the > branch towards me is a branch which 2519 descends > from. Thus, my Kincaids (as well as other Londonderry > Kincaids) and 2519 share a common ancestor with your > line. Sample 4164 is on another branch from the common > ancestor. Hence, I say that 2519 is closer to 15550 > than 4164. > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland > County, PA > > >> As a descendant of 15550, I was wondering at what marker you would >> determine >> who is a closer relationship or do you count by exact matches? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland >> County, PA >> >> >>>I don't see sample 15550 as being closely related to your >>> 4164. Sample 15550 is closer to 2519. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:15 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland >>> County, PA >>> >>> >>>> Hempfield Township is south of Salem and southwest of Derry Township >>>> and >>>> northwest of Mount Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County, PA where >>>> Andrew >>>> Kincaid & John Kincaid, sons of George Kincaid reside in 1790. Andrew >>>> being first there in 1783. Also I am looking at where sample [15550] >>>> falls, into Group A, where my sample 4164 falls. > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have the book "Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon" - By Ben F. Dixon I see in the census for STARK COUNTY, IL some of the men's names that were in the book. There wasn't a Rachel Kinkade in Stark County. Who were the parents of Rachel Maria Kinkade? Here is a marriage in ASHLAND COUNTY, OHIO between Kinkade, Isaac; Smith, Sarah; married: 6-Jan-1853 This Isaac/Sarah might be the same family as in 1860 Bureau County, IL? In the 1850 ASHLAND COUNTY, OH census, the census taker gave only an initial for the first name in his territory. There was a large family headed by G. Kincaid a. 54, born in Maryland and S. Kincaid, a. 45 (wife) b. PA. James Kincaid a. 26 b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 24 M b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 19 M b. OH E. Kincaid a. 15 F b. OH M. A. Kincaid a. 14 F b. OH G. Kincaid a. 12 M b. OH * by name--possibly George Kincaid, Jr. U. Kincaid a. 10 F b. OH A. Kincaid a. 8 F b. OH A. Kincaid a. 7 M b. OH * by name--possibly Alexander E. Kincaid a. 4 F b. OH .1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a. 25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5, b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census. Her age matches that of the Rachel who married Pearly Dixon, and she was in Hancock County, IL in 1880. Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 > Ben F Dixon's book includes the Kinkade side of his family--- Pearly > Dixon married Rachel Kinkade in Hancock County, IL on Dec. 12, 1880. > > Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: > Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon - By Ben F. Dixon - > $45.00 per copy > http://www.ancestorology.com/Books.html > > DIXON, PERLY N KINKAID, RACHAEL > 1880-12-08 4/ 143 6834 HANCOCK > > In the 1880 HANCOCK COUNTY, IL census, dated June 3, 1880 > Rachel Kinkade a. 18 was a servant in the household of Lippe Harris. The > census shows Rachel b. IL, father b. Ohio, and mother b. Indiana. > > Does anyone know who Ben F Dixon found to be the parents of Rachel Maria > Kinkade? > > This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL > census. Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois > > 1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a. 25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5, b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL > > Also, the 1860 BUREAU COUNTY,IL census shows a > Hannah Kincade, a. 22 Housework, b. Ohio > living in the household of Annanias White a. 36 and wife Sarah White a. 32 > both born in PA. Above Annanias/Sarah White were Daniel White a. 33 b. PA > and brother? Henderson White a. 28 b. OH. > It looks like these two White families moved to Illinois after 1857, > according to their children's info. > > I can't find Isaac Kinkead in the 1850 national censuses, nor in the 1880 > census > > BUREAU COUNTY, IL is next to and southwest of STARK COUNTY, IL. See next > article about the Dixon family. > http://ilgenweb.net/ilgenmap.html > ***************************************************** > > This is what Ben F. Dixon wrote about his Dixon ancestors: > "I know that he was born in Ohio; that he had spent his boyhood days on a > farm adjacent to my mother's childhood home in Stark County, Ill.; and > that Grandfather Elisha Dixon had been a soldier of the Civil War. Vaguely > I recalled the name of his brothers and sisters, my aunts Sophia, Eva, and > Emma, and my uncles Ollie and Frank, -- and some of his uncles and aunts: > David and Jane Ray; Joe and Frankie Nicholas; Wayne and Harrison Dixon. > But from the time of his death in 1900, until Thanksgiving Day, 1931, I > knew little more than this. > > On the latter date, with my family, I was at my mother's home at Kahoka, > Mo., the town where I was born and reared. I was regretting the fact that > I knew nothing of the Dixon's family , when mother said, "If you will get > out your father's old ledger, you will fine a record of the Dixon Family > that he and his mother put down there years ago, "We found the old ledger, > and located in my father's handwriting six or eight pages of family > records that had been entered there 40 or 50 years before. It was an open > aces to a vast acquaintance with his people and their history. > > Letters to his living brothers and sisters brought me to names of many > cousins I had never heard of, One of these, Jonne Johnson, a lawyer of > Milwaukee, found in the library there a volume called "Kith and Kin". It > was published in Los Angeles in 1922, by Willis Wilner Dixon. And it set > forth the records of the family of William Dixson, son of Henry and Rose > Dixson of County Armagh, Ireland. In 1688, William Dixson, a Quaker, came > to Delaware with Penn's immigrants, and married in Newcastle County, Ann, > daughter of William Gregg, > > Working out the lines from both ends of the chain, it was my good fortune, > in less than three years, to trace the line of descent accurately, from > William Dixson the Quaker Immigrant, to Pearly Nicholas Dixon, my father. > > http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Dixon.htm > > ******************************************************* > > 1850 VINTON COUNTY, OH Census: > > Elisha Dixon a. 27 b, OH and wife Lydia Dixon a. 25, b. OH family with > Sophia a. 4, Francis a. 2 and son Perly a. 1 month A Rachel Dixon, widow > a. 53 b. NC and her children, all born OH were next to Elisha/Lydia Dixon > family in the 1850 Vinton County, OH census. > > 1860 STARK COUNTY, IL Census, Essex Township > > Elisha Dixon a. 37, farmer b. OH > > Lydia Dixon, a. 35. b. OH > > Children: Sophia a. 15; Francis M a. 12; Pearley a. 11; all born Ohio, > and Eveline a. 6 born IL > > . > > 1870 PAGE COUNTY, IOWA census, Washington Township > > Dixon, Elisha a. 47 farmer, b. Ohio > > Dixon, Lydia a. 45 b. OH > > Children: Francis a. 22, M b.OH; Pearley a. 20, M b. OH; Eva a. 17 b. > IL; Emma a. 9 b. IL; Oliver a. 2, b. IL > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is what the Ben Dixon Book has, below that is the census data on Eben S. Kinkade. Eben S. Kinkade, oldest son of Andrew Kinkade and Ann Tingley, was born in Ohio, July 27, 1827, died April 26, 1905 in Clark County, MO. His mother was a descendant of the Massachusetts and New Jersey Tingleys; his father was from the Kinkades of Pennsylvania.  At age 23 went to Shelby County, IN. In 1855 Eben S. Kinkade moved west to Stark County, IL, farmed on Spoon River near Toulon. In 1869 he moved to Sandusky, IA worked as a stone mason In 1871 he moved to Sweet Home Township, Clark County, MO. Married Sarah Spillman on June 14, 1851.  She died on April 17, 1875 in Peaksville, MO. Children of Eben S. Kinkade and Sarah Spellman Charles Andrew Kinkade b. 1852 Catherine Ann Kinkade b 1853 Cynthia Eleanor Kinkade b. 1855 David William Kinkade d. Benj. Franklin Kinkade b 1857 Edgar Lane Kinkade d Emma Jane Kinkade d Rachel Maria b 1861 Infant d William S. Kinkade 1865 Thomas Spillman Kinkade d Martha Louise Kinkade d. James Dorsey Kinkade b 1870 Eben S. Kinkade b 1872 Clark County 1880 E. Smith Kinkade, [000022] born 1825, in OH, age 55, white, married, marble cutter, father b OH,                 mother b OH,  Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 196DB.  Son of Andrew Kinkade & Ann Tingley of         Monroe County, OH. 1880 Rosana Kinkade, born 1829, in OH, age 51, white, married, keeps house, father b OH, mother b OH,             wife of E. Smith Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. 1880 E.S. Kinkade, [000022] born 1873, in MO, age 7, white, single, son of E. Smith Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark         County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Benj. Kinkade, [000022] born 1857, in IL, age 23, white, married, marble cutter, father b OH, m b IN,             Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 196D. 1880 Susan J. Kinkade, born 1850, in MO, age 30, white, married, keeps house, father b TN, mother b AL,             wife of  Benj. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 196D. 1880 Charles A. Kinkade, [000022] born 1851, in IN, age 29, white, married, marble cutter, father b OH,                 mother b IN, Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Cordelia Kinkade, born 1851, in IA, age 29, white, married, keeps house, father b NY, mother b NY, wife         of Charles A. Kinkade, Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Ella Kinkade, [000022] born 1875, in IA, age 5, white, single, daughter of Charles A. Kinkade,  Kahoka,         Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Purley Kinkade, [000022] born 1877, in MO, age 3, white, single, son of Charles A. Kinkade,  Kahoka,         Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. 1880 Myrtle Kinkade, [000022] born 1879, in MO, age 10 months, white, single, daughter of Charles A.                 Kinkade,  Kahoka, Clark County, MO.  USFC, p. 197B. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:19:54 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 Does anyone have the book "Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon" - By Ben F. Dixon I see in the census for STARK COUNTY, IL some of the men's names that were in the book.  There wasn't a Rachel Kinkade in Stark County. Who were the parents of Rachel Maria Kinkade? Here is a marriage in ASHLAND COUNTY, OHIO between Kinkade, Isaac; Smith, Sarah; married: 6-Jan-1853 This Isaac/Sarah might be the same family as in 1860 Bureau County, IL? In the 1850 ASHLAND COUNTY, OH census, the census taker gave only an initial for the first name in his territory. There was a large family headed by G. Kincaid a. 54, born in Maryland and S. Kincaid, a. 45 (wife) b. PA. James Kincaid a. 26 b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 24  M b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 19 M  b. OH E. Kincaid a. 15  F b. OH M. A. Kincaid a. 14 F b. OH G. Kincaid a. 12 M  b. OH * by name--possibly George Kincaid, Jr. U. Kincaid  a. 10 F b. OH A. Kincaid a. 8 F  b. OH A. Kincaid a. 7 M b. OH * by name--possibly Alexander E. Kincaid a. 4 F b. OH .1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a.  25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5,  b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census. Her age matches that of the Rachel who married Pearly Dixon, and she was in Hancock County, IL in 1880.   Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 > Ben F Dixon's book  includes the Kinkade side of his family---  Pearly > Dixon married Rachel Kinkade in Hancock County, IL on Dec. 12, 1880. > > Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: > Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon - By Ben F. Dixon - > $45.00 per copy > http://www.ancestorology.com/Books.html > > DIXON, PERLY  N                      KINKAID, RACHAEL > 1880-12-08  4/ 143    6834 HANCOCK > > In the 1880 HANCOCK COUNTY, IL census, dated June 3, 1880 > Rachel Kinkade a. 18 was a servant in the household of Lippe Harris.  The > census shows Rachel b. IL, father b. Ohio, and mother b. Indiana. > > Does anyone know who Ben F Dixon found to be the parents of Rachel Maria > Kinkade? > > This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL > census.  Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois > > 1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a.  25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5,  b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL > > Also, the 1860 BUREAU COUNTY,IL census shows a > Hannah Kincade, a. 22  Housework, b. Ohio > living in the household of Annanias White a. 36 and wife Sarah White a. 32 > both born in PA.  Above Annanias/Sarah White were Daniel White a. 33 b. PA > and brother? Henderson White a. 28 b. OH. > It looks like these two White families moved to Illinois after 1857, > according to their children's info. > > I can't find Isaac Kinkead in the 1850 national censuses, nor in the 1880 > census > > BUREAU COUNTY, IL  is next to and southwest of STARK COUNTY, IL.  See next > article about the Dixon family. > http://ilgenweb.net/ilgenmap.html >  ***************************************************** > > This is what Ben F. Dixon wrote about his Dixon ancestors: > "I know that he was born in Ohio; that he had spent his boyhood days on a > farm adjacent to my mother's childhood home in Stark County, Ill.; and > that Grandfather Elisha Dixon had been a soldier of the Civil War. Vaguely > I recalled the name of his brothers and sisters, my aunts Sophia, Eva, and > Emma, and my uncles Ollie and Frank, -- and some of his uncles and aunts: > David and Jane Ray; Joe and Frankie Nicholas; Wayne and Harrison Dixon. > But from the time of his death in 1900, until Thanksgiving Day, 1931, I > knew little more than this. > > On the latter date, with my family, I was at my mother's home at Kahoka, > Mo., the town where I was born and reared. I was regretting the fact that > I knew nothing of the Dixon's family , when mother said, "If you will get > out your father's old ledger, you will fine a record of the Dixon Family > that he and his mother put down there years ago, "We found the old ledger, > and located in my father's handwriting six or eight pages of family > records that had been entered there 40 or 50 years before. It was an open > aces to a vast acquaintance with his people and their history.. > > Letters to his living brothers and sisters brought me to names of many > cousins I had never heard of, One of these, Jonne Johnson, a lawyer of > Milwaukee, found in the library there a volume called "Kith and Kin". It > was published in Los Angeles in 1922, by Willis Wilner Dixon. And it set > forth the records of the family of William Dixson, son of Henry and Rose > Dixson of County Armagh, Ireland. In 1688, William Dixson, a Quaker, came > to Delaware with Penn's immigrants, and married in Newcastle County, Ann, > daughter of William Gregg, > > Working out the lines from both ends of the chain, it was my good fortune, > in less than three years, to trace the line of descent accurately, from > William Dixson the Quaker Immigrant, to Pearly Nicholas Dixon, my father. > > http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Dixon.htm > > ******************************************************* > > 1850 VINTON COUNTY, OH Census: > > Elisha Dixon a. 27 b, OH and wife Lydia Dixon a. 25, b. OH family with > Sophia a. 4, Francis a. 2 and son Perly a. 1 month  A Rachel Dixon, widow > a. 53 b. NC and her children, all born OH were next to Elisha/Lydia Dixon > family in the 1850 Vinton County, OH census. > > 1860 STARK COUNTY, IL Census, Essex Township > > Elisha Dixon a. 37, farmer b. OH > > Lydia Dixon, a. 35. b. OH > > Children:  Sophia a. 15; Francis M a. 12; Pearley a. 11; all born Ohio, > and Eveline a. 6 born IL > > . > > 1870 PAGE COUNTY, IOWA census, Washington Township > > Dixon, Elisha  a. 47  farmer, b. Ohio > > Dixon, Lydia  a. 45  b. OH > > Children:  Francis a. 22,  M b.OH; Pearley a. 20, M b. OH; Eva a. 17 b. > IL; Emma a. 9 b. IL; Oliver a. 2, b. IL > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The parents of Rachel Maria Kinkade were Ebenezer Stansberry Kinkade and Sarah Eleanor Spillman she was born Sept. 3, 1861 in Stark County, IL, material quoted from "Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon" - By Ben F. Dixon   Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:19:54 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 Does anyone have the book "Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon" - By Ben F. Dixon I see in the census for STARK COUNTY, IL some of the men's names that were in the book.  There wasn't a Rachel Kinkade in Stark County. Who were the parents of Rachel Maria Kinkade? Here is a marriage in ASHLAND COUNTY, OHIO between Kinkade, Isaac; Smith, Sarah; married: 6-Jan-1853 This Isaac/Sarah might be the same family as in 1860 Bureau County, IL? In the 1850 ASHLAND COUNTY, OH census, the census taker gave only an initial for the first name in his territory. There was a large family headed by G. Kincaid a. 54, born in Maryland and S. Kincaid, a. 45 (wife) b. PA. James Kincaid a. 26 b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 24  M b. OH J or I Kincaid a. 19 M  b. OH E. Kincaid a. 15  F b. OH M. A. Kincaid a. 14 F b. OH G. Kincaid a. 12 M  b. OH * by name--possibly George Kincaid, Jr. U. Kincaid  a. 10 F b. OH A. Kincaid a. 8 F  b. OH A. Kincaid a. 7 M b. OH * by name--possibly Alexander E. Kincaid a. 4 F b. OH .1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a.  25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5,  b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census. Her age matches that of the Rachel who married Pearly Dixon, and she was in Hancock County, IL in 1880.   Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 > Ben F Dixon's book  includes the Kinkade side of his family---  Pearly > Dixon married Rachel Kinkade in Hancock County, IL on Dec. 12, 1880. > > Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: > Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon - By Ben F. Dixon - > $45.00 per copy > http://www.ancestorology.com/Books.html > > DIXON, PERLY  N                      KINKAID, RACHAEL > 1880-12-08  4/ 143    6834 HANCOCK > > In the 1880 HANCOCK COUNTY, IL census, dated June 3, 1880 > Rachel Kinkade a. 18 was a servant in the household of Lippe Harris.  The > census shows Rachel b. IL, father b. Ohio, and mother b. Indiana. > > Does anyone know who Ben F Dixon found to be the parents of Rachel Maria > Kinkade? > > This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL > census.  Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois > > 1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a.  25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5,  b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL > > Also, the 1860 BUREAU COUNTY,IL census shows a > Hannah Kincade, a. 22  Housework, b. Ohio > living in the household of Annanias White a. 36 and wife Sarah White a. 32 > both born in PA.  Above Annanias/Sarah White were Daniel White a. 33 b. PA > and brother? Henderson White a. 28 b. OH. > It looks like these two White families moved to Illinois after 1857, > according to their children's info. > > I can't find Isaac Kinkead in the 1850 national censuses, nor in the 1880 > census > > BUREAU COUNTY, IL  is next to and southwest of STARK COUNTY, IL.  See next > article about the Dixon family. > http://ilgenweb.net/ilgenmap.html >  ***************************************************** > > This is what Ben F. Dixon wrote about his Dixon ancestors: > "I know that he was born in Ohio; that he had spent his boyhood days on a > farm adjacent to my mother's childhood home in Stark County, Ill..; and > that Grandfather Elisha Dixon had been a soldier of the Civil War. Vaguely > I recalled the name of his brothers and sisters, my aunts Sophia, Eva, and > Emma, and my uncles Ollie and Frank, -- and some of his uncles and aunts: > David and Jane Ray; Joe and Frankie Nicholas; Wayne and Harrison Dixon. > But from the time of his death in 1900, until Thanksgiving Day, 1931, I > knew little more than this. > > On the latter date, with my family, I was at my mother's home at Kahoka, > Mo., the town where I was born and reared. I was regretting the fact that > I knew nothing of the Dixon's family , when mother said, "If you will get > out your father's old ledger, you will fine a record of the Dixon Family > that he and his mother put down there years ago, "We found the old ledger, > and located in my father's handwriting six or eight pages of family > records that had been entered there 40 or 50 years before. It was an open > aces to a vast acquaintance with his people and their history. > > Letters to his living brothers and sisters brought me to names of many > cousins I had never heard of, One of these, Jonne Johnson, a lawyer of > Milwaukee, found in the library there a volume called "Kith and Kin". It > was published in Los Angeles in 1922, by Willis Wilner Dixon. And it set > forth the records of the family of William Dixson, son of Henry and Rose > Dixson of County Armagh, Ireland. In 1688, William Dixson, a Quaker, came > to Delaware with Penn's immigrants, and married in Newcastle County, Ann, > daughter of William Gregg, > > Working out the lines from both ends of the chain, it was my good fortune, > in less than three years, to trace the line of descent accurately, from > William Dixson the Quaker Immigrant, to Pearly Nicholas Dixon, my father. > > http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Dixon.htm > > ******************************************************* > > 1850 VINTON COUNTY, OH Census: > > Elisha Dixon a. 27 b, OH and wife Lydia Dixon a. 25, b. OH family with > Sophia a. 4, Francis a. 2 and son Perly a. 1 month  A Rachel Dixon, widow > a. 53 b. NC and her children, all born OH were next to Elisha/Lydia Dixon > family in the 1850 Vinton County, OH census. > > 1860 STARK COUNTY, IL Census, Essex Township > > Elisha Dixon a. 37, farmer b. OH > > Lydia Dixon, a. 35. b. OH > > Children:  Sophia a. 15; Francis M a. 12; Pearley a. 11; all born Ohio, > and Eveline a. 6 born IL > > . > > 1870 PAGE COUNTY, IOWA census, Washington Township > > Dixon, Elisha  a. 47  farmer, b. Ohio > > Dixon, Lydia  a. 45  b. OH > > Children:  Francis a. 22,  M b.OH; Pearley a. 20, M b. OH; Eva a. 17 b. > IL; Emma a. 9 b. IL; Oliver a. 2, b. IL > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a descendant of 15550, I was wondering at what marker you would determine who is a closer relationship or do you count by exact matches? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA >I don't see sample 15550 as being closely related to your > 4164. Sample 15550 is closer to 2519. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland > County, PA > > >> Hempfield Township is south of Salem and southwest of Derry Township and >> northwest of Mount Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County, PA where >> Andrew >> Kincaid & John Kincaid, sons of George Kincaid reside in 1790. Andrew >> being first there in 1783. Also I am looking at where sample [15550] >> falls, into Group A, where my sample 4164 falls. > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just to muddy those waters a bit, I saw the names Isaac Kinkead and Sarah Kinkead and jumped to the conclusion that they were my kin who were, incidentally, from Vinton Co., OH. The three children, though, are not Isaac and Sarah Van Cleef Kinkead's. Their offspring are: Julius Kinkead b.1843 Benton C. Kinkead b.1845 Emogene Kinkead b. 1849 Selwyn E. Kinkead b. 1854 Sarah Arabella Kinkead b. 1859 Estaetta Kinkead b. 1861 Further fact-checking reveals that Isaac never left Vinton County (he was an important public official there) and Sarah only left after Isaac died in 1877. The 1850 Census sees them in Washington Co. OH. Sarah and two of her sons located in Plattsmouth, NE, to get to which one must have certainly traveled through Illinois, possibly crossing the Mississippi at Nauvoo (Hancock Co.) like the Mormons did earlier. This is all of special interest to me now that I seem to have identical 67-marker DNA to Doug Kincaid (4073) in Illinois! Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Hancock County, Illinois Kinkades--part 1 > Ben F Dixon's book includes the Kinkade side of his family--- Pearly > Dixon married Rachel Kinkade in Hancock County, IL on Dec. 12, 1880. > > Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: > Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon - By Ben F. Dixon - > $45.00 per copy > http://www.ancestorology.com/Books.html > > DIXON, PERLY N KINKAID, RACHAEL > 1880-12-08 4/ 143 6834 HANCOCK > > In the 1880 HANCOCK COUNTY, IL census, dated June 3, 1880 > Rachel Kinkade a. 18 was a servant in the household of Lippe Harris. The > census shows Rachel b. IL, father b. Ohio, and mother b. Indiana. > > Does anyone know who Ben F Dixon found to be the parents of Rachel Maria > Kinkade? > > This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL > census. Rachel is shown as a daughter of: > HH 61 > Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. > Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio > Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa > Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa > Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois > > 1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: > Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio > Sarah Kinkead, a. 25 b, Ohio > Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa > Adaline Kinkead a. 5, b. Iowa > George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL > > Also, the 1860 BUREAU COUNTY,IL census shows a > Hannah Kincade, a. 22 Housework, b. Ohio > living in the household of Annanias White a. 36 and wife Sarah White a. 32 > both born in PA. Above Annanias/Sarah White were Daniel White a. 33 b. PA > and brother? Henderson White a. 28 b. OH. > It looks like these two White families moved to Illinois after 1857, > according to their children's info. > > I can't find Isaac Kinkead in the 1850 national censuses, nor in the 1880 > census > > BUREAU COUNTY, IL is next to and southwest of STARK COUNTY, IL. See next > article about the Dixon family. > http://ilgenweb.net/ilgenmap.html > ***************************************************** > ******************************************************* > > 1850 VINTON COUNTY, OH Census: > > Elisha Dixon a. 27 b, OH and wife Lydia Dixon a. 25, b. OH family with > Sophia a. 4, Francis a. 2 and son Perly a. 1 month A Rachel Dixon, widow > a. 53 b. NC and her children, all born OH were next to Elisha/Lydia Dixon > family in the 1850 Vinton County, OH census. >

Ben F Dixon's book includes the Kinkade side of his family--- Pearly Dixon married Rachel Kinkade in Hancock County, IL on Dec. 12, 1880. Our book, our ancestors, ourselves, and our children: Pearly Nicholas Dixon, Rachel Maria (Kinkade) Dixon - By Ben F. Dixon - $45.00 per copy http://www.ancestorology.com/Books.html DIXON, PERLY N KINKAID, RACHAEL 1880-12-08 4/ 143 6834 HANCOCK In the 1880 HANCOCK COUNTY, IL census, dated June 3, 1880 Rachel Kinkade a. 18 was a servant in the household of Lippe Harris. The census shows Rachel b. IL, father b. Ohio, and mother b. Indiana. Does anyone know who Ben F Dixon found to be the parents of Rachel Maria Kinkade? This appears to be the same Rachel Kinkade in the 1870 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census. Rachel is shown as a daughter of: HH 61 Isaac Kinkade a. 44, carpenter, b. Ohio. Sarah Kinkade a. 35, b. Ohio Clarissa Kinkade, a. 16, b. Iowa Adelia Kinkade, a. 14, b. Iowa Rachel Kinkade, a. 8, b. Illinois 1860 BUREAU COUNTY, IL census: Isaac Kinkead,a. 32 farmer b. Ohio Sarah Kinkead, a. 25 b, Ohio Clarissa Kinkead a. 7, b. Iowa Adaline Kinkead a. 5, b. Iowa George Kinkead a. 2, b. IL Also, the 1860 BUREAU COUNTY,IL census shows a Hannah Kincade, a. 22 Housework, b. Ohio living in the household of Annanias White a. 36 and wife Sarah White a. 32 both born in PA. Above Annanias/Sarah White were Daniel White a. 33 b. PA and brother? Henderson White a. 28 b. OH. It looks like these two White families moved to Illinois after 1857, according to their children's info. I can't find Isaac Kinkead in the 1850 national censuses, nor in the 1880 census BUREAU COUNTY, IL is next to and southwest of STARK COUNTY, IL. See next article about the Dixon family. http://ilgenweb.net/ilgenmap.html ***************************************************** This is what Ben F. Dixon wrote about his Dixon ancestors: "I know that he was born in Ohio; that he had spent his boyhood days on a farm adjacent to my mother's childhood home in Stark County, Ill.; and that Grandfather Elisha Dixon had been a soldier of the Civil War. Vaguely I recalled the name of his brothers and sisters, my aunts Sophia, Eva, and Emma, and my uncles Ollie and Frank, -- and some of his uncles and aunts: David and Jane Ray; Joe and Frankie Nicholas; Wayne and Harrison Dixon. But from the time of his death in 1900, until Thanksgiving Day, 1931, I knew little more than this. On the latter date, with my family, I was at my mother's home at Kahoka, Mo., the town where I was born and reared. I was regretting the fact that I knew nothing of the Dixon's family , when mother said, "If you will get out your father's old ledger, you will fine a record of the Dixon Family that he and his mother put down there years ago, "We found the old ledger, and located in my father's handwriting six or eight pages of family records that had been entered there 40 or 50 years before. It was an open aces to a vast acquaintance with his people and their history. Letters to his living brothers and sisters brought me to names of many cousins I had never heard of, One of these, Jonne Johnson, a lawyer of Milwaukee, found in the library there a volume called "Kith and Kin". It was published in Los Angeles in 1922, by Willis Wilner Dixon. And it set forth the records of the family of William Dixson, son of Henry and Rose Dixson of County Armagh, Ireland. In 1688, William Dixson, a Quaker, came to Delaware with Penn's immigrants, and married in Newcastle County, Ann, daughter of William Gregg, Working out the lines from both ends of the chain, it was my good fortune, in less than three years, to trace the line of descent accurately, from William Dixson the Quaker Immigrant, to Pearly Nicholas Dixon, my father. http://www.heritagepursuit.com/Dixon.htm ******************************************************* 1850 VINTON COUNTY, OH Census: Elisha Dixon a. 27 b, OH and wife Lydia Dixon a. 25, b. OH family with Sophia a. 4, Francis a. 2 and son Perly a. 1 month A Rachel Dixon, widow a. 53 b. NC and her children, all born OH were next to Elisha/Lydia Dixon family in the 1850 Vinton County, OH census. 1860 STARK COUNTY, IL Census, Essex Township Elisha Dixon a. 37, farmer b. OH Lydia Dixon, a. 35. b. OH Children: Sophia a. 15; Francis M a. 12; Pearley a. 11; all born Ohio, and Eveline a. 6 born IL . 1870 PAGE COUNTY, IOWA census, Washington Township Dixon, Elisha a. 47 farmer, b. Ohio Dixon, Lydia a. 45 b. OH Children: Francis a. 22, M b.OH; Pearley a. 20, M b. OH; Eva a. 17 b. IL; Emma a. 9 b. IL; Oliver a. 2, b. IL

Sue- Is the DNA chart site up to date? Norman's work in Westmoreland County is getting close to home and I need to take another look and get up to speed. I need to find where MY Mary Kinkead (d. 1795 in W. Co.) is buried, as well as a record of MY David Kinkead's marriage to Elizabeth McCarty/McCardy, which I believe took place there, too. The family only stayed there for five years before moving on to Belmont Co., OH, but I believe they went to W. Co. from NJ because there were close relatives there. Norman's discoveries and recent DNA test results seem to bear this out. Thanks ( for all you do ), Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA

Here are several records for James Kinkead in Westmoreland County, PA. There are more records for this group of people at the website below. http://mimpickles.com/lindsey/westmo/westmo.htm The 1773 & 1776 dates for this James Kinkead matches the information that Norman sent. Thomas Sumrall may have been the brother of John Sumrall/Simeral. 1773 James Kenkead [000013] taxed in Hempfield Township, Bedford County, PA at 2.0. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 28. 1773 John Simeral taxed in Hempfield Township, Bedford County, PA at 1.0. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 29. 1773 Thomas Kilpatrick taxed in Hempfield Township, Bedford County, PA at 1.0. Pennsylvania Archives, s. 3, v. 22, p. 29. 1773 James Kinkead [000013] brother-in-law, appointed executor of John Sumrall's will, of Westmoreland County, PA, will written, Feb. 24, 1773, proved, April 8, 1773. Chester County Historical Society, West Chester, PA, Kincaid file. 1773: William Lindsay witnessed the will of Thomas Sumrall/Simeral (Westmoreland Co., PA Will Book 1, Page 1). The map of Westmoreland Co., above, shows the name Sumeral just above the yellow dot which represents the location of William Lindsay's land. The Simeral family operated a ferry on the Youghiogheny River in this area. Thomas was the son of Alexander and Jean Lindsey Simeral (m. ca. 1737) who had moved to Westmoreland Co. from Chester Co. ca. 1773. Jean was the daughter of Samuel Lindsey of Chester Co. (Source: The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy, edited by Frederick A. Virkus. Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Co., 1968: Volume VII, Lineage Records, Pages 134 and 400). Source: FHL film # 0929165 Westmoreland County Deed Book Vol. A, Pg. 271: Gedison Miller to Casper Miracle 27 Sep. 1773 Huntingdon Township, on waters of Big Sewickley, 400 acres Adj.: Robert Miller, Clement Finley, Thomas White, Thomas Smallman Witnesses: Henry Smith, James Kinkead William Lindsay to Samuel Whitsett, both of Hempfield Township For 50 pounds, 300 acres on the waters of Beaver Run, being the same land conveyed by Mr. Mason to John Mason, unto William Lindsay. Bounded by lands of: John Christy, William Jack, William Graham, and others. Signed William Lindsay, 26 March 1776 Witnessed by James Kinkead. http://mimpickles.com/lindsey/westmo/westmo.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA Okay, so to be sure before I start, Peter, you are saying that you do not believe that James Kinkead, coroner and recorder of Westmoreland County, PA is not the son of John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Is that correct? Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:46:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead, Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA Forgive me Norman in that all I have to go on here is information in your timelines. You link people to places but I can't see how you came to this as I do not have the full information that you have. I don't see how you link James Kincaid, coroner to any other place. I am reacting to you point: "I now have enough circumstancial evidence to place them within the Sadsbury, West Caln, East Caln Townships, Chester County, PA Kincaid family cluster." I noted that the recent DNA result does not link the Sadsbury Kincaids to James Kincaid (m. Margaret Kuhns). I pointed this out because I am going on the assumption that James Kincaid (m. Margaret Kuhns) is connected to James Kincaid, the coroner. This is based on your placement of him in Hempfield township in 1773. It seems to me that since the Kuhns James and the Coroner James are both from Hempfield one would look to a relation. I understand from a previous post that Margaret's grandfather, Philip Kuhns, was Sheriff of Westmoreland County. Would one not further suspect one from the Coroner's line is of similar social status to marry one of the Sheriff's line? Given the times, I do, so I assume that the Kuhns James is of the Coroner James' line. Assumptions aside I hope this one could be figured out. I have a keen interest in Kuhn James' ancestry as I have a common ancestor with sample 15550. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA Nevertheless, I'm still grouped with sample 15550 on the Family Tree DNA chart along with 2519. Plue you stated: "I think the results for sample 119921 (a reputed descendant of the Sadsbury Kincaids) elimates the likelihood that James Kincaid (m. Margaret Kuhns) of Westmoreland County, PA (represented by sample 15550) is of the Sadsbury Kincaids." If that is so why would I continue to look to the Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA Kincaids for his paper trail? Especially when I lose track of James Kinkead the Coroner after 1786? I still think James W. Kinkead is from the Cumberland County, PA Kincaids. Although, lately, I have found vague connections between the Cumberland County Kincaids and the Chester County, PA Kincaids. Also I'm having trouble accessing Alice Gedge's table so I am unable to review the updates there. I'm still looking at the warrants, deeds, and surveys in Westmoreland County after 1786 to find more definitive answers to where James Kincaid, coroner, died. I still don't believe he is the guy who died in 1812 in Brooke County, VA, later WV. Although it appears that he is the James Kinkead in the Board of Property Case. Sincerely Norman Kincaide To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------Tounsubscribefromthelist,pleasesend an emailtoKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com withtheword'unsubscribe'withoutthequotesin the subject and the body ofthemessage

Peter, it looks like there is a parallel mutation within A-2a at either marker 32 (DYS 576) or marker 35 (CDYa). I can't see a pathway without one. It is possible that 49289's 17 at marker 32 is the parallel, in which case you are correct that 15550 and 2519 are closer than either is to 4164. However, it could be at marker 35 with 15550's 38 being the parallel. This would make him closer to 4164 then to 2519. Remember that as soon as 122441 is vetted, 4164's 11 at marker 4 (DYS391) goes away as far as finding connections for George/Jean. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA >I don't see sample 15550 as being closely related to your > 4164. Sample 15550 is closer to 2519. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland > County, PA > > >> Hempfield Township is south of Salem and southwest of Derry Township and >> northwest of Mount Pleasant Township, Westmoreland County, PA where >> Andrew >> Kincaid & John Kincaid, sons of George Kincaid reside in 1790. Andrew >> being first there in 1783. Also I am looking at where sample [15550] >> falls, into Group A, where my sample 4164 falls. > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert- Here are some things to see. Send me your email and I'll send you some pictures, maps etc. http://www.barons-court.com/ http://www.folkpark.com/ http://www.ulsterheritage.com/ Here'as a nice B&B in the BaronsCourt neighborhood: Mountjoy B&B, 137 Castletown Road, Omagh Tel. 028 8224 4836 Dick Kinkead 2562 Lantana, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Kinkade" <bkinkade55@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Heading to Northern Ireland Next Week - Any Suggestions? Although I am somewhat a casual participant to all the dialog, you were a tremendous help to me when my family and I visited Scotland on our own back in 2005. We visited Campsie and walked the hill to the Kincaid-Lennox castle. We are headed to Ireland and Northern Ireland next week. Any suggestions for places to visit in Northern Ireland that may have links to our Kincaid past? We will be driving into Northern Ireland from Dublin area and up to the Antrim coast. Thanks for your help. Robert Bruce Kinkade #35915 - Group C To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Actually, I am saying that I don't see how you equate James the coroner with James the son of John of Sadsbury. I see how John of Sadsbury had daughters who ended up in Hempfield township (Sumrell/Kilpatrick). John's son James seems to have been there. However, what makes him the coroner? We certainly have Kuhn James in Hempfield in the 1830s. If he is of the Dickinson township Kincaids what brought him there? How do you link him to Dickinson and not to the earlier coroner James? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA Okay, so to be sure before I start, Peter, you are saying that you do not believe that James Kinkead, coroner and recorder of Westmoreland County, PA is not the son of John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Is that correct? Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:46:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead, Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA Forgive me Norman in that all I have to go on here is information in your timelines. You link people to places but I can't see how you came to this as I do not have the full information that you have. I don't see how you link James Kincaid, coroner to any other place. I am reacting to you point: "I now have enough circumstancial evidence to place them within the Sadsbury, West Caln, East Caln Townships, Chester County, PA Kincaid family cluster." I noted that the recent DNA result does not link the Sadsbury Kincaids to James Kincaid (m. Margaret Kuhns). I pointed this out because I am going on the assumption that James Kincaid (m. Margaret Kuhns) is connected to James Kincaid, the coroner. This is based on your placement of him in Hempfield township in 1773. It seems to me that since the Kuhns James and the Coroner James are both from Hempfield one would look to a relation. I understand from a previous post that Margaret's grandfather, Philip Kuhns, was Sheriff of Westmoreland County. Would one not further suspect one from the Coroner's line is of similar social status to marry one of the Sheriff's line? Given the times, I do, so I assume that the Kuhns James is of the Coroner James' line. Assumptions aside I hope this one could be figured out. I have a keen interest in Kuhn James' ancestry as I have a common ancestor with sample 15550. Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] James Kinkead,Coroner & Recorder of Westmoreland County, PA Nevertheless, I'm still grouped with sample 15550 on the Family Tree DNA chart along with 2519. Plue you stated: "I think the results for sample 119921 (a reputed descendant of the Sadsbury Kincaids) elimates the likelihood that James Kincaid (m. Margaret Kuhns) of Westmoreland County, PA (represented by sample 15550) is of the Sadsbury Kincaids." If that is so why would I continue to look to the Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA Kincaids for his paper trail? Especially when I lose track of James Kinkead the Coroner after 1786? I still think James W. Kinkead is from the Cumberland County, PA Kincaids. Although, lately, I have found vague connections between the Cumberland County Kincaids and the Chester County, PA Kincaids. Also I'm having trouble accessing Alice Gedge's table so I am unable to review the updates there. I'm still looking at the warrants, deeds, and surveys in Westmoreland County after 1786 to find more definitive answers to where James Kincaid, coroner, died. I still don't believe he is the guy who died in 1812 in Brooke County, VA, later WV. Although it appears that he is the James Kinkead in the Board of Property Case. Sincerely Norman Kincaide To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message