Barb, I have a marriage for Forrest Jane Kincaid/Kincade daughter of James Woodburn Kinkade/Kincaid and Lydia Dick, who married 26 Oct 1854 in Brushcreek Evang Luth, Greensburg, Pennsylvania, USA. Lydia would have been James Woodburn Kinkade's second wife. I have Forrest Jane married to James Allen Kinkade b. 6 May 1853, in Kirksville, MO on May 25, 1875 in Illinois. I have the parents of James Allen Kinkade to be Lorenzo D. Kinkade and Harriett Stewart. i have the birth date of Lorenzo D Kinkade as 1824 in Hardin Co., KY, and death in 1879 in IL. Parents of Lorenzo D. Kinkade are listed as George Washington Kinkade, born Lynchburg, Campbell, VA and Sally Traner m. 3 sept 1816, Elizabethtown, Hardin, KY. I have the parents of George Washington Kinkade as Robert Kinkade and Mary Bowman I hope that this is some help. Meredith Kincaid ---- Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> wrote: > Margie, > Do you have a marriage for James Woodburn Kinkade's daughter Forrest Jane? > I was sent a family lineage, which as I recall, showed that she married a > Kinkade from another family, i.e. a grandson of George Kinkade/Sarah Traner, > who was living in Hancock County, IL at the time. > > Barb Van Hout > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:23 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] James Woodburn Kinkade/Kinkaid (15550) other male lines > > > >I was in contact with H. Keith Kinkade 10 years ago but lost contact when > > his eyesight began failing. He is descended from James Woodburn Kinkaids > > youngest surviving son, William. I know of male descendants of his son > > James W. Kincaid, but have never met them, just corresponded with one > > sister > > until my mother passed away last year. She appears to have lost interest > > so > > I will seek out her cousins and siblings. > > > > I will see if I can get hold of Keith in CA and see if he is interested; > > however, I would only be able to sponsor the basic 25 marker test. > > Knowing > > my Kinkade family, asking estranged/unfamiliar family to contribute their > > DNA and having to pay too will be a challenge! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:58 AM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] another John in Carlisle > > > > > >> In looking at the upgrade to 67 results, there is a possible pattern > >> emerging at marker 50 (413b) and marker 60 (446). It is still too early > >> to > >> tell and both markers seem to have a parallel mutation but there is a > >> possible path with the 22 at marker 50 occuring 1st followed by the 14 at > >> marker 60. Set 4's line would take off from #2519 (who has both > >> mutations) > >> at marker 19 (437) with a mutation to 14. If the pattern holds with > >> further > >> upgrades this means that 15550 would not find a common ancestor in the > >> colonies with any current project participant as 2519's ancestor > >> Samuel/Johanna Walch was b 1811 and d 1885 in Ireland and 2519's ancestor > >> James Woodburn/Margaret Kuhn's was also b 1811. Finding another > >> participant > >> from James Woodburn's line (preferably from a different son) would help > >> confirm or eliminate mutations within this line and give us a better > >> picture > >> of where he fits in. > >> > >> Sue Liedtke > >> > >> > >>> I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER > >>> OF > >>> CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO > >>> TO > >>> BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY > >>> RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND > >>> THIS: > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, This is my first post on this list and I'm hoping someone can help clarify my husband's Kincaid lineage for me. I have John Kincaid, b 10 Mar 1760 in Amherst, VA, m Elizabeth Hannah Galespie, b 31 May 1760, on 11 Feb 1782 in VA. What's troubling me is that I have seen John's parents listed as John Kincaid and Anne Graham in addition to Thomas Kincaid and Hannah Tinhcer. Does anyone know the correct set of parents for John, 1760, and beyond that? Lastly, our John's daughter, Magdeline, b 7 Mar 1806, married Reubin Wyatt, b 20 Dec 179. I if anyone has connections to this particular line, I'd appreciate hearing from you as well. Thanks, Nancy

---- Barbara Van Hout <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> wrote: > Margie, > Do you have a marriage for James Woodburn Kinkade's daughter Forrest Jane? > I was sent a family lineage, which as I recall, showed that she married a > Kinkade from another family, i.e. a grandson of George Kinkade/Sarah Traner, > who was living in Hancock County, IL at the time. > > Barb Van Hout > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:23 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] James Woodburn Kinkade/Kinkaid (15550) other male lines > > > >I was in contact with H. Keith Kinkade 10 years ago but lost contact when > > his eyesight began failing. He is descended from James Woodburn Kinkaids > > youngest surviving son, William. I know of male descendants of his son > > James W. Kincaid, but have never met them, just corresponded with one > > sister > > until my mother passed away last year. She appears to have lost interest > > so > > I will seek out her cousins and siblings. > > > > I will see if I can get hold of Keith in CA and see if he is interested; > > however, I would only be able to sponsor the basic 25 marker test. > > Knowing > > my Kinkade family, asking estranged/unfamiliar family to contribute their > > DNA and having to pay too will be a challenge! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:58 AM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] another John in Carlisle > > > > > >> In looking at the upgrade to 67 results, there is a possible pattern > >> emerging at marker 50 (413b) and marker 60 (446). It is still too early > >> to > >> tell and both markers seem to have a parallel mutation but there is a > >> possible path with the 22 at marker 50 occuring 1st followed by the 14 at > >> marker 60. Set 4's line would take off from #2519 (who has both > >> mutations) > >> at marker 19 (437) with a mutation to 14. If the pattern holds with > >> further > >> upgrades this means that 15550 would not find a common ancestor in the > >> colonies with any current project participant as 2519's ancestor > >> Samuel/Johanna Walch was b 1811 and d 1885 in Ireland and 2519's ancestor > >> James Woodburn/Margaret Kuhn's was also b 1811. Finding another > >> participant > >> from James Woodburn's line (preferably from a different son) would help > >> confirm or eliminate mutations within this line and give us a better > >> picture > >> of where he fits in. > >> > >> Sue Liedtke > >> > >> > >>> I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER > >>> OF > >>> CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO > >>> TO > >>> BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY > >>> RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND > >>> THIS: > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margie, Do you have a marriage for James Woodburn Kinkade's daughter Forrest Jane? I was sent a family lineage, which as I recall, showed that she married a Kinkade from another family, i.e. a grandson of George Kinkade/Sarah Traner, who was living in Hancock County, IL at the time. Barb Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <Dieckhorst@q.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: [KINCAID] James Woodburn Kinkade/Kinkaid (15550) other male lines >I was in contact with H. Keith Kinkade 10 years ago but lost contact when > his eyesight began failing. He is descended from James Woodburn Kinkaids > youngest surviving son, William. I know of male descendants of his son > James W. Kincaid, but have never met them, just corresponded with one > sister > until my mother passed away last year. She appears to have lost interest > so > I will seek out her cousins and siblings. > > I will see if I can get hold of Keith in CA and see if he is interested; > however, I would only be able to sponsor the basic 25 marker test. > Knowing > my Kinkade family, asking estranged/unfamiliar family to contribute their > DNA and having to pay too will be a challenge! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] another John in Carlisle > > >> In looking at the upgrade to 67 results, there is a possible pattern >> emerging at marker 50 (413b) and marker 60 (446). It is still too early >> to >> tell and both markers seem to have a parallel mutation but there is a >> possible path with the 22 at marker 50 occuring 1st followed by the 14 at >> marker 60. Set 4's line would take off from #2519 (who has both >> mutations) >> at marker 19 (437) with a mutation to 14. If the pattern holds with >> further >> upgrades this means that 15550 would not find a common ancestor in the >> colonies with any current project participant as 2519's ancestor >> Samuel/Johanna Walch was b 1811 and d 1885 in Ireland and 2519's ancestor >> James Woodburn/Margaret Kuhn's was also b 1811. Finding another >> participant >> from James Woodburn's line (preferably from a different son) would help >> confirm or eliminate mutations within this line and give us a better >> picture >> of where he fits in. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> >>> I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER >>> OF >>> CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO >>> TO >>> BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY >>> RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND >>> THIS: >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is also possible that this is David Kinkead who married Martha Sproul or his son David. It seems to me that some of that family were living in that area - one operating a tavern or a hotel. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 This is for Dick Kinkead. I found this today at the Penrose Library, Colorado Springs, CO in the Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. I wonder if this is your elusive David Kinkead on his way to Ohio. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 David Kincaid had a letter remaining at the Post Office, Greensburgh, Westmoreland County, PA, July 14, 1796. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts, 1785-1796, Vol. 1, p. 171.

An aside to this: The spelling error is definitely that of either a clerk or the sender. I have my gggggf David Kinkead's autograph on his will, where even the notary misspelled it in the next paragraph! Dick Kinkead 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 This is for Dick Kinkead. I found this today at the Penrose Library, Colorado Springs, CO in the Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. I wonder if this is your elusive David Kinkead on his way to Ohio. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 David Kincaid had a letter remaining at the Post Office, Greensburgh, Westmoreland County, PA, July 14, 1796. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts, 1785-1796, Vol. 1, p. 171. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Norman- BINGO! Though I hate to jump to conclusions. I wonder if the letter might still be there . . . or somewhere? I've heard tell of the P.O. delivering mail decades late, but centuries? Thanks, ol' buddy. Dick K. 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 This is for Dick Kinkead. I found this today at the Penrose Library, Colorado Springs, CO in the Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. I wonder if this is your elusive David Kinkead on his way to Ohio. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 David Kincaid had a letter remaining at the Post Office, Greensburgh, Westmoreland County, PA, July 14, 1796. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts, 1785-1796, Vol. 1, p. 171. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

Here is what I have on David Kinkead (sample 57709, Group C) & Martha Sproul  after they left Delaware: Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1790 David Kinkead, [57709] Maytown Township, Lancaster County, PA, 3 males over 16, 4 males under 16,         4 females. USFC, p. 142. 1792 David Kinkead [57709Dav] married Narcissa Colhoon on April 15, 1792 in Pennsylvania.          Daughters of the American Revolution Research Library, Washington D.C., David Kinkead file. 1798 Robert Kinkead [57709Rob] married Mary McClelland on May 18, 1798 in Donegal Township, Lancaster         County, PA. The Unknown file of Chris D. Kraft & Alice D. Gedge. 1799 David Kinkead [57709Rob] born to Robert Kinkead [57709Rob] & Mary McClelland on Feb. 18, 1799 in         Lancaster County, PA.  James M. Kinkead, Genealogical History of the Kinkead Family, Hollidaysburg,         PA, Lancaster County Historical Society. 1800 Maxwell Kinkead, [57709Max] Donegal Township, Lancaster County, PA, 4 males 16-26, 1  female 16-        26,. USFC, microfilm m32-39, p. 1. 1800 Robert Kinkead, [57709Rob] Rapho Township, Lancaster County, PA, 1 male 26-45, 1 male 10-16, 1             male to 10, 1 female 26-45, 1 female 10-16. USFC, microfilm m32-39, p. 252. 1801 Samuel Kinkead [57709Rob] born to Robert Kinkead [57709Rob] & Mary McClelland on January 2,             1801 in Lancaster County, PA.  James M. Kinkead, Genealogical History of the Kinkead Family,                 Hollidaysburg, PA, Lancaster County Historical Society. 1803 Robert Kinkead [57709Rob] born to Robert Kinkead [57709Rob] & Mary McClelland on January 3, 1803         in Huntingdon County, PA.  James M. Kinkead, Genealogical History of the Kinkead Family,                         Hollidaysburg, PA, Lancaster County Historical Society. 1805 Maxwell Kinkead [57709Max] married Debora Cadawallader on March 12, 1805 in Huntingdon County,         PA by Rev. John Johnson. Daughters of the American Revolution Research Library, Washington D.C.,         David Kinkead file.  Maxwell was an innkeeper in Huntingdon County, PA. 1807 George Kinkead [57709] born to Robert Kinkead [57709Rob] & Mary McClelland on May  3,1807 in             Huntingdon County, PA.  James M. Kinkead, Genealogical History of the Kinkead Family,                             Hollidaysburg, PA, Lancaster County Historical Society. 1807 David Kinkead [57709Dav] & Company opened their store in the house formerly occupied by Ephraim             Doolittle in Chillicothe, Ross County, OH, December 21, 1807.  Sciota Gazette & Chillicothe Advertiser 1810 M. Kinkead, [57709Max] Petersburg, Huntington County, PA, 1 male 10-16, 1 male 16-26, 1 male 26-            45, 2 females under 10, 2 females 16-25, 1 female 26-45.  USFC, p. 1810 R. Kinkaid, [57709Rob] Tyrone Township, Huntington County, PA, 3 males under 10, 1 male 10-16, 1             male 26-45, 2 females under 10, 1 female 26-45.  USFC, 006. 1818 Robert Colhoon Kinkead [57709Dav] born to David Kinkead [57709Dav] & wife Narcissa Colhoon on             Dec. 28, 1818 in Ohio. Daughters of the American Revolution Research Library, Washington D.C., David         Kinkead file. 1820 Maxwell Kinkead, [57709Max] Morris Township, Huntington County, PA, 1 male over 45, 1 male 26-45,         2 males16-25, 1 male 10-16, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 2 females 16-25, 2 females 10-16, 1             female under 10.  USFC. 1820 Robert Kinkead, [57709Rob] Tyrone Township, Huntington County, PA, 1 male over 45, 2 males 16-25,1         male 16-18, 1 male 10-16, 1 female 26-44, 1 female 16-26, 2 females 10-16, 1 female under 10.  USFC,         p. 80. 1821 Francis Louisa Kinkead [57709Dav] born to David Kinkead [57709Dav] & wife Narcissa Colhoon on                 January 16, 1821 in Ohio. Daughters of the American Revolution Research Library, Washington D.C.,             David Kinkead file. 1833 David Kinkead, [57709Dav] born Nov. 23, 1775, son of David Kinkead [57709] & Martha Sproul, died on         March 28, 1833 in Madison Township, Highland County, OH.  Daughters of the American Revolution             Research Library, Washington D.C., David Kinkead file. ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:26:15 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 It is also possible that this is David Kinkead who married Martha Sproul or his son David.  It seems to me that some of that family were living in that area - one operating a tavern or a hotel. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 This is for Dick Kinkead. I found this today at the Penrose Library, Colorado Springs, CO in the Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. I wonder if this is your elusive David Kinkead on his way to Ohio. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 David Kincaid had a letter remaining at the Post Office, Greensburgh, Westmoreland County, PA, July 14, 1796. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts, 1785-1796, Vol. 1, p. 171. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was in contact with H. Keith Kinkade 10 years ago but lost contact when his eyesight began failing. He is descended from James Woodburn Kinkaids youngest surviving son, William. I know of male descendants of his son James W. Kincaid, but have never met them, just corresponded with one sister until my mother passed away last year. She appears to have lost interest so I will seek out her cousins and siblings. I will see if I can get hold of Keith in CA and see if he is interested; however, I would only be able to sponsor the basic 25 marker test. Knowing my Kinkade family, asking estranged/unfamiliar family to contribute their DNA and having to pay too will be a challenge! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] another John in Carlisle > In looking at the upgrade to 67 results, there is a possible pattern > emerging at marker 50 (413b) and marker 60 (446). It is still too early to > tell and both markers seem to have a parallel mutation but there is a > possible path with the 22 at marker 50 occuring 1st followed by the 14 at > marker 60. Set 4's line would take off from #2519 (who has both mutations) > at marker 19 (437) with a mutation to 14. If the pattern holds with > further > upgrades this means that 15550 would not find a common ancestor in the > colonies with any current project participant as 2519's ancestor > Samuel/Johanna Walch was b 1811 and d 1885 in Ireland and 2519's ancestor > James Woodburn/Margaret Kuhn's was also b 1811. Finding another > participant > from James Woodburn's line (preferably from a different son) would help > confirm or eliminate mutations within this line and give us a better > picture > of where he fits in. > > Sue Liedtke > > >> I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER OF >> CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO >> TO >> BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY >> RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND >> THIS: > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dick, you're funny, dude.  Next time I'm in Greensburgh I'll drop by the post office and see if it's still there. I doubt it is, but it's a nice genealogical fantasy.  "The letter, give me the letter." Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Kinkead <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:04:03 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 Norman- BINGO!  Though I hate to jump to conclusions. I wonder if the letter might still be there . . . or somewhere?  I've heard tell of the P.O. delivering mail decades late, but centuries? Thanks, ol' buddy. Dick K.  2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, 1796 This is for Dick Kinkead. I found this today at the Penrose Library, Colorado Springs, CO in the Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts. I wonder if this is your elusive David Kinkead on his way to Ohio. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 David Kincaid had a letter remaining at the Post Office, Greensburgh, Westmoreland County, PA, July 14, 1796. Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts, 1785-1796, Vol. 1, p. 171. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy..rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In looking at the upgrade to 67 results, there is a possible pattern emerging at marker 50 (413b) and marker 60 (446). It is still too early to tell and both markers seem to have a parallel mutation but there is a possible path with the 22 at marker 50 occuring 1st followed by the 14 at marker 60. Set 4's line would take off from #2519 (who has both mutations) at marker 19 (437) with a mutation to 14. If the pattern holds with further upgrades this means that 15550 would not find a common ancestor in the colonies with any current project participant as 2519's ancestor Samuel/Johanna Walch was b 1811 and d 1885 in Ireland and 2519's ancestor James Woodburn/Margaret Kuhn's was also b 1811. Finding another participant from James Woodburn's line (preferably from a different son) would help confirm or eliminate mutations within this line and give us a better picture of where he fits in. Sue Liedtke > I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER OF > CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO TO > BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY > RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND THIS:

>I'm still not convinced that it is James Kinkead, the Coroner from Westmoreland County, PA. I still think that James Kinkead who married Margaret Kuhns was the son of John Kinkead who married Mary Lee in Carlisle, PA in: 1796 John Kincaid [15550] married Mary Lee at First Presbyterian Church, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA         on April 27, 1796.  Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA The above John Kincaid I believe to be the son of James Kinkead of West Pennsboro, Cumberland County, PA.  These were later the Kincaids of Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA.< I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER OF CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO TO BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND THIS: #206..26 Feb 1800 Deborah Kinkead vs John Kinkead, John Kinkead prosecuted THIS IS ODD SINCE THEN I FOUND THIS: John & Deborah Kincade, Jane, Susannah & Francis Kelly, January 20, 1816 in Robert Clark's District, 1st Presbyterian Church. Church Register Pew Holders 1795-1796 SO NORM I'M CURIOUS IF YOU KNOW WHAT THIS COURT CASE WAS ABOUT THAT SEEMS TO BE WIFE VS HUSBAND -- OR MAYBE A DIFFERENT JOHN?? Bruce

This is for Dick Kinkead.  I found this today at the Penrose Library, Colorado Springs, CO in the Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts.  I wonder if this is your elusive David Kinkead on his way to Ohio. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 David Kincaid had a letter remaining at the Post Office, Greensburgh, Westmoreland County, PA, July         14, 1796.  Pittsburgh Gazette Abstracts, 1785-1796, Vol. 1, p. 171.

Hi, Bruce.  I couldn't find that court case in my timeline, but the other two citations are to John Kinkead, grandson of John Kinkead, Merchant of Carlisle. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: "btea93059@tx.rr.com" <btea93059@tx.rr.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Cc: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:15:08 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] another John in Carlisle >I'm still not convinced that it is James Kinkead, the Coroner from Westmoreland County, PA. I still think that James Kinkead who married Margaret Kuhns was the son of John Kinkead who married Mary Lee in Carlisle, PA in: 1796 John Kincaid [15550] married Mary Lee at First Presbyterian Church, Carlisle, Cumberland County, PA         on April 27, 1796.  Cumberland County Historical Society, Carlisle, PA The above John Kincaid I believe to be the son of James Kinkead of West Pennsboro, Cumberland County, PA.  These were later the Kincaids of Dickinson Township, Cumberland County, PA.< I'M NOT UP TO SNUFF ON THIS SINCE MY CONNECTION TO JOHN THE SHOPKEEPER OF CARLISLE APPEARS TO BE A FORLORN HOPE, BUT THIS JOHN IS OF THE AGE ALSO TO BE THE SHOPKEEPER'S GRANDSON THROUGH ANDREW. SO I LOOKED BACK AT MY RECORDS AND FOUND REFERENCE TO "DEBORAH" AS HIS WIFE, AND THEN FOUND THIS: #206..26 Feb 1800 Deborah Kinkead vs John Kinkead, John Kinkead prosecuted THIS IS ODD SINCE THEN I FOUND THIS: John & Deborah Kincade, Jane, Susannah & Francis Kelly, January 20, 1816 in Robert Clark's District, 1st Presbyterian Church. Church Register Pew Holders 1795-1796 SO NORM I'M CURIOUS IF YOU KNOW WHAT THIS COURT CASE WAS ABOUT THAT SEEMS TO BE WIFE VS HUSBAND -- OR MAYBE A DIFFERENT JOHN?? Bruce

Dick, The skeleton looks good. The flesh and your additional information just needs to be added. Giving the household details for censuses (all members with ages, birth places, and in later censuses relationship to head and parents birthplace) helps move the family back in location and time as well as allowing others to make possible connections into the family. Brief descriptions of what a document is about and brief relevant quotes from the document itself helps build the case in a manner that anyone who does not have knowledge of the family can follow. Your 1st two links with a "personal knowledge" proof if you actually knew the individuals involved is all that is needed. It would be best to have an additional document or information showing that the family in the censuses is the correct family for your line in the rest of the links. More information on George Washington (such as marriage and death dates and places) and the lines back of him would also be helpful. Currently my genealogy time is limited (huge landscaping project and needed house repairs that must be done while the weather is good) and am helping Sally with her post taking 11207 back to James/Elizabeth Church (which I hope can be finalized next week) but would be happy to look your post over before it goes to the list. It does help to have someone unfamilar with the line look the post over for clarity and completeness. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Westmoreland County, PA > Yes, I did post last year, twice. But there were flaws in it again, so I > put it off. > Now there's updated info, a broken brick wall and more detail. > I'll re-do and re-post next week when I get back from Californica. > > Dick Kinkead 2562 > Lantana, FL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Westmoreland County, PA > > >> He did post last year. I am pasting his post below for >> convenience. >> >> Peter >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> >> To: "Genealogy, KINCAID" <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:41 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Post #2562 >> >> >>> Richard Neil Kinkead to David Kinkead b. 1761 >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Participant: Richard Neil Kinkead DNA #2562 Group A set 1a >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Richard Neil Kinkead b. (25Jan1947, Chicago, Cook, Illinois) >>> >>> Son of Robert Miller Kinkead and Joan Marie Deignan >>> >>> Proven by *Illinois birth certificate naming above parents >>> ------------------------------------ >>> Robert Miller Kinkead b. (22Aug1923, Chariton, Lucas, Iowa) >>> >>> Son of George Washington Kinkead and Hildreth Marie Miller >>> >>> Proven by *Iowa birth certificate naming above parents >>> ------------------------------------ >>> George Washington Kinkead b. (16Sep1895, Whitebreast Twp., Lucas, >>> Iowa) >>> >>> Son of Robert L. Kinkead and Mary Ida Mitchell >>> >>> Proven by *1910 U.S. Census, Iowa, Wayne, Union Twp., District 172 >>> *1920 U.S. Census, Iowa, Lucas, Whitebreast, District >>> 96 >>> *Iowa State Census 1925, Lucas, Lincoln Twp. >>> ------------------------------------ >>> Robert L. Kinkead (poss. but unproven middle name: Lincoln) b. >>> (25Feb1868, Twenty Milestand, Union Twp., Warren Co., Ohio) >>> >>> Son of Robert Willis Kinkead and Rebecca Foster Scott >>> >>> Proven by *Iowa State Census, 1885, Lucas, Whitebreast Twp. >>> *1870 U.S. Census, Iowa, Lucas, Whitebreast Twp. >>> ----------------------------------- >>> Robert Willis Kinkead b. (25Feb1817, Wheeling Twp., BelmontCo., >>> Ohio) >>> >>> Son of Joseph Kinkead and Eleanor Willis >>> >>> Proven by *Estate settlement document on file Louisa Co., Iowa, naming >>> living children of Joseph Kinkead >>> *Family document dictated by RWK's sister, Mary Jane >>> Kinkead Campbell, to her son, naming all of Joseph Kinkead's children. >>> (MJKC proven by 1850 U.S. Census of Ohio, Licking, >>> Burlington Twp., Homer, at which time RWK had married and left the >>> household ) >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Joseph Kinkead b. (24Nov1793, Burlington Co., New Jersey) >>> >>> Son of David Kinkead and Mary Land >>> >>> Proven by *Will of David Kinkead, 20Aug1820, on file in Guernsey Co., >>> OH, >>> naming "my sons John and Joseph." >>> (This is the only David Kinkead married in New Jersey >>> [1787], >>> in the right place [Belmont/Guernsey Cos., OH], >>> at the right time, having sons John and Joseph in 1820 >>> isolated >>> in the will from his other children [of a second wife]. >>> *Family documents cite John Land Kinkead, b. 14Nov1789 in >>> Burlington, NJ, as Joseph's brother. >>> David's father-in-law was John Land of Burlington, NJ. >>> Joseph >>> named his third son John Land Kinkead.) >>> ---------------------------------- >>> David Kinkead b. (Abt. 1761, Ireland) >>> >>> Son of (possibilities still speculative) >>> >>> * Copies in my possession >>> _______________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Dick Kinkead 2562 >>> Lantana, FL >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<<Almost all references to Kincaid in Albemarle Co. are Kinkead. >> Just as an aside to this name spelling, most early records for David Kinkead/Winifred prior to 1733 spell his name Kinkade (10 records). But Winifred's initial court record in 1728/29 changing her name is to the Kinkead spelling. In Spottsylvania from February through May 1733, his name is spelled Kinkead in 6 straight records. But in June it goes back to Kinkade for 15 out of the next 18 records until June 1734. Between June 1734 and 1743 in Spottsylvania, Goochland and Orange counties it is spelled Kinkead 46 times to 2 as Kinkade, and 4 spellings of Kindred. The spelling may be more related to which clerk recorded the records. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart, Rev Jos. Kinkead of Killinchy > Almost all references to Kincaid in Albemarle Co. are Kinkead. Gradually > the > shift to Kincaid starts showing up in records but not everyone changed the > spelling. For instance Kinkead Caldwell, son of Samuel Caldwell and > perhaps > a Kincaid wife, spelled his name Kinkead until he died in the early 1800's > but his wife Sarah Kincaid's father spelled his name Kincaid as did most > of > the other Greenbrier families. Many of the Greenbrier families can be > traced > directly to Albemarle Co. where they were Kinkead. I think during the > 1700's > it has more to do with whose writing the particular document and who > taught > them to write then what the prefered spelling would be. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart, Rev Jos. Kinkead of Killinchy > > >> Ahem. >> >> Killinchy, County Down contains the grave of Rev. Joseph KINKEAD. While >> we're conditioned to ignore the spelling mutations of immigrants, this >> one >> (mine) goes back to the old country and is virtually universal in our >> line, >> though the reason for the change is still unclear to me. >> >> Dick Kinkead 2562 >> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaids@auracom.com> >>> To: KINCAID-L@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 11:40:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart >>> >>> Fascinating news on the DNA front. So the Fincastle Kincaids >>> appear to match up with Andrew of Greenbrier (Will 1810)! >>> If only Olvia Brisbin was alive to hear this. On the other >>> front John Kincaid (m. Ann Graham) lines up with Rev. >>> Joseph Kincaid of Killinchy, County Down. What interesting >>> news! Look forward to seeing these genealogies worked out. >>> Gotta love this DNA technology. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ron, If you are really interested in the Rev. Joseph Kinkead, go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=KINCAID That should take you to the search Kincaid archives page. Type "Rev. Joseph Kinkead" in the line for body and 121 posts will come up. Make sure you use the quote marks. Ruth In a message dated 7/24/2008 8:10:54 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, randakincaid@usfamily.net writes: Pardon me, but do you have any more information concerning Rev. Joseph Kinkead? Where did he settle? Was it in Virginia? If so what area. I realise that I am " Johnny come lately". Ron Kincaid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart, Rev Jos. Kinkead of Killinchy > Most of Rev. Joseph Kinkead's known descendants > use the spelling of Kincaid. Things flip so much in > families one has to be open to all spellings. Most were > illiterate and were recorded with spellings at the whim > of the recorder. > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart, Rev Jos. Kinkead of Killinchy > > >> Ahem. >> >> Killinchy, County Down contains the grave of Rev. Joseph KINKEAD. While >> we're conditioned to ignore the spelling mutations of immigrants, this >> one >> (mine) goes back to the old country and is virtually universal in our >> line, >> though the reason for the change is still unclear to me. >> >> Dick Kinkead 2562 > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Pardon me, but do you have any more information concerning Rev. Joseph Kinkead? Where did he settle? Was it in Virginia? If so what area. I realise that I am " Johnny come lately". Ron Kincaid ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart, Rev Jos. Kinkead of Killinchy > Most of Rev. Joseph Kinkead's known descendants > use the spelling of Kincaid. Things flip so much in > families one has to be open to all spellings. Most were > illiterate and were recorded with spellings at the whim > of the recorder. > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA chart, Rev Jos. Kinkead of Killinchy > > >> Ahem. >> >> Killinchy, County Down contains the grave of Rev. Joseph KINKEAD. While >> we're conditioned to ignore the spelling mutations of immigrants, this >> one >> (mine) goes back to the old country and is virtually universal in our >> line, >> though the reason for the change is still unclear to me. >> >> Dick Kinkead 2562 > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

He did post last year. I am pasting his post below for convenience. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: "Genealogy, KINCAID" <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Post #2562 > Richard Neil Kinkead to David Kinkead b. 1761 > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Participant: Richard Neil Kinkead DNA #2562 Group A set 1a > ------------------------------------ > > Richard Neil Kinkead b. (25Jan1947, Chicago, Cook, Illinois) > > Son of Robert Miller Kinkead and Joan Marie Deignan > > Proven by *Illinois birth certificate naming above parents > ------------------------------------ > Robert Miller Kinkead b. (22Aug1923, Chariton, Lucas, Iowa) > > Son of George Washington Kinkead and Hildreth Marie Miller > > Proven by *Iowa birth certificate naming above parents > ------------------------------------ > George Washington Kinkead b. (16Sep1895, Whitebreast Twp., Lucas, > Iowa) > > Son of Robert L. Kinkead and Mary Ida Mitchell > > Proven by *1910 U.S. Census, Iowa, Wayne, Union Twp., District 172 > *1920 U.S. Census, Iowa, Lucas, Whitebreast, District 96 > *Iowa State Census 1925, Lucas, Lincoln Twp. > ------------------------------------ > Robert L. Kinkead (poss. but unproven middle name: Lincoln) b. > (25Feb1868, Twenty Milestand, Union Twp., Warren Co., Ohio) > > Son of Robert Willis Kinkead and Rebecca Foster Scott > > Proven by *Iowa State Census, 1885, Lucas, Whitebreast Twp. > *1870 U.S. Census, Iowa, Lucas, Whitebreast Twp. > ----------------------------------- > Robert Willis Kinkead b. (25Feb1817, Wheeling Twp., BelmontCo., Ohio) > > Son of Joseph Kinkead and Eleanor Willis > > Proven by *Estate settlement document on file Louisa Co., Iowa, naming > living children of Joseph Kinkead > *Family document dictated by RWK's sister, Mary Jane > Kinkead Campbell, to her son, naming all of Joseph Kinkead's children. > (MJKC proven by 1850 U.S. Census of Ohio, Licking, > Burlington Twp., Homer, at which time RWK had married and left the > household ) > ---------------------------------- > Joseph Kinkead b. (24Nov1793, Burlington Co., New Jersey) > > Son of David Kinkead and Mary Land > > Proven by *Will of David Kinkead, 20Aug1820, on file in Guernsey Co., OH, > naming "my sons John and Joseph." > (This is the only David Kinkead married in New Jersey [1787], > in the right place [Belmont/Guernsey Cos., OH], > at the right time, having sons John and Joseph in 1820 > isolated > in the will from his other children [of a second wife]. > *Family documents cite John Land Kinkead, b. 14Nov1789 in > Burlington, NJ, as Joseph's brother. > David's father-in-law was John Land of Burlington, NJ. Joseph > named his third son John Land Kinkead.) > ---------------------------------- > David Kinkead b. (Abt. 1761, Ireland) > > Son of (possibilities still speculative) > > * Copies in my possession > _______________________________________________________________________________________ > > Dick Kinkead 2562 > Lantana, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Westmoreland County, PA > Alice has posted the updated chart so as far as I know it is up to date. > > I have you listed with an unvetted earliest ancestor Joseph b 1793 m > Eleanor > Willis. I do not have a New Jersey county listed for you so don't know if > it > is possible that Joseph's father may have come from the New Castle Co. > Delaware branch from 19324 who is vetted to William/Sarah b c1700 thru his > son Joseph the clockmaker. This line has not been upgraded to 37 markers > from 25 so technically should be placed in the Group A undetermined > section > but there is strong indication that 5164 comes from this line. Elaine > believes 5164's ancestor was George William b 1792 of Cecil Co. MD who may > be the son of Alexander the clockmaker. > > To bring yourself up to par and to let all of us know where you are in > your > search, you might want to consider a vetting post. It is always best to > make > sure you are on very firm footing before continuing back. If you should > decide to do this, I would be happy to work with you as to format and > organization before you post to the list. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:54 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Westmoreland County, PA > > >> Sue- >> >> Is the DNA chart site up to date? >> >> Norman's work in Westmoreland County is getting close to home and I need >> to >> take another look and get up to speed. I need to find where MY Mary >> Kinkead >> (d. 1795 in W. Co.) is buried, as well as a record of MY David Kinkead's >> marriage to Elizabeth McCarty/McCardy, which I believe took place there, >> too. The family only stayed there for five years before moving on to >> Belmont Co., OH, but I believe they went to W. Co. from NJ because there >> were close relatives there. Norman's discoveries and recent DNA test >> results seem to bear this out. >> >> Thanks ( for all you do ), >> >> Dick Kinkead 2562

Yes, I did post last year, twice. But there were flaws in it again, so I put it off. Now there's updated info, a broken brick wall and more detail. I'll re-do and re-post next week when I get back from Californica. Dick Kinkead 2562 Lantana, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaids@primus.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Westmoreland County, PA > He did post last year. I am pasting his post below for > convenience. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> > To: "Genealogy, KINCAID" <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:41 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Post #2562 > > >> Richard Neil Kinkead to David Kinkead b. 1761 >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Participant: Richard Neil Kinkead DNA #2562 Group A set 1a >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Richard Neil Kinkead b. (25Jan1947, Chicago, Cook, Illinois) >> >> Son of Robert Miller Kinkead and Joan Marie Deignan >> >> Proven by *Illinois birth certificate naming above parents >> ------------------------------------ >> Robert Miller Kinkead b. (22Aug1923, Chariton, Lucas, Iowa) >> >> Son of George Washington Kinkead and Hildreth Marie Miller >> >> Proven by *Iowa birth certificate naming above parents >> ------------------------------------ >> George Washington Kinkead b. (16Sep1895, Whitebreast Twp., Lucas, >> Iowa) >> >> Son of Robert L. Kinkead and Mary Ida Mitchell >> >> Proven by *1910 U.S. Census, Iowa, Wayne, Union Twp., District 172 >> *1920 U.S. Census, Iowa, Lucas, Whitebreast, District >> 96 >> *Iowa State Census 1925, Lucas, Lincoln Twp. >> ------------------------------------ >> Robert L. Kinkead (poss. but unproven middle name: Lincoln) b. >> (25Feb1868, Twenty Milestand, Union Twp., Warren Co., Ohio) >> >> Son of Robert Willis Kinkead and Rebecca Foster Scott >> >> Proven by *Iowa State Census, 1885, Lucas, Whitebreast Twp. >> *1870 U.S. Census, Iowa, Lucas, Whitebreast Twp. >> ----------------------------------- >> Robert Willis Kinkead b. (25Feb1817, Wheeling Twp., BelmontCo., Ohio) >> >> Son of Joseph Kinkead and Eleanor Willis >> >> Proven by *Estate settlement document on file Louisa Co., Iowa, naming >> living children of Joseph Kinkead >> *Family document dictated by RWK's sister, Mary Jane >> Kinkead Campbell, to her son, naming all of Joseph Kinkead's children. >> (MJKC proven by 1850 U.S. Census of Ohio, Licking, >> Burlington Twp., Homer, at which time RWK had married and left the >> household ) >> ---------------------------------- >> Joseph Kinkead b. (24Nov1793, Burlington Co., New Jersey) >> >> Son of David Kinkead and Mary Land >> >> Proven by *Will of David Kinkead, 20Aug1820, on file in Guernsey Co., >> OH, >> naming "my sons John and Joseph." >> (This is the only David Kinkead married in New Jersey [1787], >> in the right place [Belmont/Guernsey Cos., OH], >> at the right time, having sons John and Joseph in 1820 >> isolated >> in the will from his other children [of a second wife]. >> *Family documents cite John Land Kinkead, b. 14Nov1789 in >> Burlington, NJ, as Joseph's brother. >> David's father-in-law was John Land of Burlington, NJ. Joseph >> named his third son John Land Kinkead.) >> ---------------------------------- >> David Kinkead b. (Abt. 1761, Ireland) >> >> Son of (possibilities still speculative) >> >> * Copies in my possession >> _______________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Dick Kinkead 2562 >> Lantana, FL >