Norman- The "Isaac(k)" referred to in my gggggf David Kinkead's will was his oldest son by his second wife, Elizabeth McCarty: Isaac Kinkead b. 1804 in (prob. Belmont Co.) OH, d. 1877 in Vinton Co., OH. I've been trying to coordinate the info from your timelines (vintage 2002) and the DNA results. Progress is slow. Thanks for all your help. Dick K. 2562 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: [KINCAID] New Jersey Kincaid I found this John W. Kincaid by searching at this location: http://usgwarchives.net/pa/pafiles.htm I thought that this John W. Kincaid was descended from William Kinkead of Pencader Hundred, New Castle County, Delaware. But his father, Isaac, is not in the estate paper of William Kinkead or his wife Sarah. So this must be a different William Kincaid in New Jersey. This of particular importance of Dick Kinkead, since there is an Isaac Kinkead in David Kinkead's Will, of Oxford Township, Guernsey County, OH. Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 John W. Kincaid [19324] was born to Isaac Kincaid & wife, unknown on February 13, 1796 in Delaware. Isaac Kincaid was a New Jersey man and a successful farmer, son of William Kincaid who was Scottish by parentage and birth. Biographical Sketches of Leading Citizens Lawrence County Pennsylvania, 1897, p. 136.

I found this John W. Kincaid by searching at this location: http://usgwarchives.net/pa/pafiles.htm I thought that this John W. Kincaid was descended from William Kinkead of Pencader Hundred, New Castle County, Delaware.  But his father, Isaac is not in the estate paper of William Kinkead or his wife Sarah.  So this must be a different William Kincaid in New Jersey.  This of particular importance of Dick Kinkead, since there is an Isaac Kinkead in David Kinkead's Will, of Oxford Township, Guernsey County, OH Sincerely Norman Kincaide 1796 John W. Kincaid [19324] was born to Isaac Kincaid & wife, unknown on February 13, 1796 in Delaware.          Isaac Kincaid was a New Jersey man and a successful farmer, son of William Kincaid who was                     Scottish by parentage and birth.  Biographical Sketches of Leading Citizens Lawrence County                     Pennsylvania, 1897, p. 136. 1822 John W. Kinkead [19324] married Rachel S. Craven of New Jersey on May 21, 1822, in Salem, New             Jersey. He kept the Craven Hotel there until 1833.  Clara Janvier Kinkead, Kinkeads of Delaware as             Pioneers in Minnesota, p. 60a; Biographical Sketches of Leading Citizens Lawrence County                         Pennsylvania, 1897, p. 136. 1833 John W. Kincaid [19324] and family moved to Hillsville, Mahoning Township, Lawrence County, PA and         bought the Henry Smith farm. Biographical Sketches of Leading Citizens Lawrence County                         Pennsylvania, 1897, p. 136. 1854 John W. Kincaid [19324] farmed until about 1854 when he left for California to join his son, John E.                 Kincaid.  He got as far as Nicaragua where he was detained, he fell sick of Panama or yellow fever and         died.  Thirteen children were born to this union:  Richard C. Kincaid, born August 21, 1823, William             Kincaid, Oct. 7, 1824, Maria E. Kincaid, July 27, 1826, John E. Kincaid, Nov. 27, 1827, Amanda D.         Kincaid, Oct. 8, 1829, Julia S. Kincaid (Miller), March 20, 1832, Edward S. Kincaid, May 14, 1833,             Mary J. Kincaid, March 25, 1835, Albert Kincaid, July 14, 1838, James C. Kincaid, Feb. 30? 1839,                 Ferdinand Kincaid, August 25, 1841, Rose Ann Kincaid, Feb. 23, 1843, Adaline R. Kincaid, Feb. 20,             1845.  Biographical Sketches of Leading Citizens Lawrence County Pennsylvania, 1897, p. 136.

Ken, there is a possibility if the "John R. Kincaid" could actually br John A (Adams) Kincaid, who was married to a Susan Jones and had a son I only know as Marcus from the 1860 census(and right agae). I know this John Adams Kincaid is the son of John Kincaid and Anna Gregory of york county SC. If your info for John R. is only from Joseph Marcus' death certificate, consider that it could be wrong. Many, but not all, of the Kincaids of Gaston are related to this line. We can connect this line nicely. Bruce ---- Ken Boone <ancestor@bellsouth.net> wrote: > My great uncle James A. Ashe, married Elizabeth Kincaid b. 26 Nov 1879 in Gaston Co.,NC. Her father was Joseph Marcus Kincaid b. 16 Apr 1858 in Gaston Co. Her mother was Mary "Molly" Louise Merritt b. ? d. by 1893? (she died at age 37) > > Joseph Marcus Kincaid's father was John R. Kincaid (may have been born in York, SC) and mother was Susan Jones. > > The children by Mary Merritt were Elizabeth, Edna Earl(?) b. 1883, and Joseph M. Jr. b. 1892 > > Children by Amelia (2nd wife) were Pearl b. 1895, John W. b.ca 1897, Hattie M. b. ca 1904 > > Step children were Charlie Hendrick b. ca 1892, Elizabeth Hendrick b. 1894, and George Hendrick b. 1896. > > Can anyone add to this family? > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Norman, Culpepper Co. was pulled from the northern part of Orange Co. in 1748 and included what is now Madison Co. until 1792-3. Albemarle (created 1744 from Louisa and Goochland Cos.) south of Orange Co. would be the closest Kincaids I know about. The Albemarle/Augusta Kincaids appear to have arrived at an earlier time period than this group. It is a bit curious that 1st generation John Kinkade came to the colonies about 1750 but his (son?) James came to VA about 1788. From the census it looks those who were not born in the midwest were born is PA not VA. I am wondering if the inheritance was through a Kincade settlement or perhaps came to Kincades through marriage. Perhaps Nancy Taylor's family? Sue > > Dear Kincaid-listers here is what I have extracted from Ben Dixon's book > of the earliest Kinkades of his line. I still have been unable to > connect this line with any Pennsylvania line. Statements below indicate > a Virginia connection. Perhaps the Virginia folks can shed light upon > this or see some connection that I have been unable to perceive. I have > added 1880 census records for Andrew Kinkade & Secrest Kinkade, sons of > David Kinkade and Rebecca Osborn and Eleazer Kinkade, son of James > Kinkade and Nancy Taylor. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > I don't know how much there was of it, but understood it was a large > mountain place, away from market. Aunt Elisabeth told me that according > to > Uncle Secrest, the land was in Culpepper County, VA. > Chart of Descent of the Kinkades > John Kinkade born in Belfast, Ireland to Colonies about 1750 1st > generation > James Kinkade came to Virginia about 1788 married Nancy Taylor, 1791 > John Kinkade married Polly Davis > Nancy Kinkade married ? Johnson, in Davies County, MO? > Elisabeth Kinkade married David Davis, Jamestown, Ohio > Margaret Kinkade never married. > Children of James Kinkade and Nancy Taylor (son Eleazer stated his > father was born in Ireland, from 1880 census) > John Kinkade married Isabella Adams > Eleanor Kinkade married William Abraham > Jane Kinkade married James Steen > Mary Ann Kinkade married Hugh Lee > Robert Kinkade married Sarah Stansberry > Ruhamah Kinkade married Thomas P. McCarrell > James Kinkade married Marie Elliott > George Kinkade > Eleazer Kinkade married Hannah Lyons > Children of John Kinkade and Polly Davis > James Kinkade > David Kinkade married Rebecca Osborn > Children of David & Rebecca Osborn > Andrew Kinkade b. 1802 d. 1881, married Ann Tingley > John Kinkade married Elisa Brittain > Aaron Kinkade married Rachel ____ > David Kinkade married _____Smith > Mary Kinkade married Henry Morris > Sarah Kinkade married _____ Haines > Phoebe Kinkade married _____Brittain > Christina Kinkaid married _____ Ferrin > Rebecca Kinkade married William McCurdy > Secrest Kinkade b. 1828 d. 1914 married Elisabeth Spillman > Children of Robert Kinkade and Sarah Stansberry (son of James Kinkade > and Nancy Taylor) > Ruhamah Kinkade m. John Jeffrey > Ruth Kinkade > James Kinkade > John Kinkade > Ruth E. Kinkade married J.H. Wallace, Siloam Springs, Ark. > Mary Ann Kinkade married William Black, Pawnee County, NE > Robert T. Kinkade married Katie Blair, Springfield, MO. > Elisha S. Kinkade married Anna McDowell, Eskridge, KS. > Andrew Kinkade born 1802, died 1881, married Ann Tingley > Children of Andrew Kinkade & Ann Tingley > Eben S. Kinkade, b. 1827, d. 1905 married Sarah Spillman > Arouna Kinkade married Rachel McCurdy > Benjamin Kinkade married 4 times > David Kinkade married Mary Cronin > Second Maria Elston > Andrew Kinkade married Harriet Scott > Rebecca Kinkade married Andrew Cronin > Rachel Kinkade never married > Deborah Kinkade married Abram Millar > Eben S. Kinkade, oldest son of Andrew Kinkade and Ann Tingley, was born > in Ohio, July 27, 1827, died April 26, 1905 in Clark County, MO. > His mother was a descendant of the Massachusetts and New Jersey > Tingleys; his father was from the Kinkades of Pennsylvania. > At age 23 went to Shelby County, IN. > In 1855 Eben S. Kinkade moved west to Stark County, IL, farmed on Spoon > River near Toulon. > In 1869 he moved to Sandusky, IA worked as a stone mason > In 1871 he moved to Sweet Home Township, Clark County, MO. > Married Sarah Spillman on June 14, 1851. She died on April 17, 1875 in > Peaksville, MO. > Children of Eben S. Kinkade and Sarah Spellman > Charles Andrew Kinkade b. 1852 > Catherine Ann Kinkade b 1853 > Cynthia Eleanor Kinkade b. 1855 > David William Kinkade d. > Benj. Franklin Kinkade b 1857 > Edgar Lane Kinkade d > Emma Jane Kinkade d > Rachel Maria b 1861 > Infant d > William S. Kinkade 1865 > Thomas Spillman Kinkade d > Martha Louise Kinkade d. > James Dorsey Kinkade b 1870 > Eben S. Kinkade b 1872 > Secrest Kinkade b. 1828 d. 1914 married Elisabeth Spillman (Secrest > Kinkade was the youngest child of > David Kinkade and Rebecca Osborn) > Children of Secrest & Elisabeth Spillman > Illinois > Essex County > 1880 Secrist Kincade, [000022] born 1828, in OH, age 52, white, > married, farmer, father b PA, mother b PA, Essex, Stark County, IL. > USFC, p. 363C. > 1880 Elizabeth Kincade, born 1835, in IN, age 45, white, keeps > house, father b KY, mother b OH, Wife of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark > County, IL. > USFC, p. 363C. > 1880 Henry Kincade, [000022] born 1855, in IN, age 25, white, > single, farmer, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, > p. 363C. > 1880 Aurilia Kincade, [000022] born 1859, in IL, age 21, white, > single, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. > 363C. > 1880 Beatrice Kincade, [000022] born 1867, in IL, age 13, white, > single, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. > 363C. > 1880 Mabel Kincade, [000022] born 1870, in IL, age 10, white, > daughter of Secrict Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. > 1880 William Kincade, [000022] born 1872, in IL, age 8, white, son > of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. > 1880 Oscar Kincade, [000022] born 1875, in IL, age 5, white, son > of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. > 1880 Myrtle Kincade, [000022] born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, > daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. > 1880 Bessie Kincade, [000022] born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, > father b PA, mother b IL, granddaughter of Secrist Kincaide, Essex, > Stark County, IL. > USFC, p. 363C. > Iowa > Madison County > 1880 Eleazer Kinkaid, [000022] born 1811, in WV, age 69, white, > married, book canverser, father b Ireland, mother b PA, Winderset, > Madison > County, IA. USFC, p. 133A. (son of James Kinkade and > Nancy Taylor) > 1880 Hannah Kinkaid, born 1861, in PA, age 64, white, keeps house, > father b Ireland, mother b PA, wife of Eleazer Kinkaid, Winderset, > Madison > County, IA. USFC, p. 133A. > 1880 Reynolds Robert Kinkade, [000022] born 1855, in IA, age 25, > white, single, attorney, father b WV, mother b PA, Toledo, Lucas County, > > IA. USFC, p. 123D. Son of Eleazer Kinkade [000022] & Hannah > Lyons. > Ohio > Monroe County > 1880 Andrew Kinkade, [000022] born 1801, in PA, age 79, white, > farmer, widowed, father b PA, mother b NJ, Bethel Township, Monroe > County, > OH, USFC, p. 424C. (son of David Kinkade & wife Rebecca > Osborn). > 1880 Rachel Kinkade, [000022] born 1838, in OH, age 42, white, > keeping house, father b PA, mother b OH, daughter of Andrew Kinkade, > Bethel > Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, p. 424C. > 1880 Douglas P. Kinkade, [000022] born 1864, in OH, age 16, white, > at home, father b OH, mother b OH, grandson of Andrew Kinkade, Bethel > Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, p. 424C. > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The results for the upgrades from 37 to 67 markers for #4323 and #5806 are starting to come in. So far the 38-46 panel has been returned for each of them. #4323 is A-2b and #5806 is A-1a. Both match the Apparent Ancestral Values for Group A at these markers. Sue Liedtke

The two Kincaids listed below as being from Hartford, Washington County, NY has opened up an exciting new line of research for me. It seems that these two Kincaids were brothers who are said to descend from a David Kincaid of Londonderry, Ireland who was born about 1695. Actually, there were three brothers here. In John's household was a brother Alexander who died in 1806. John also died in 1806. James is said to have married a Margaret McCoy and it was his family that continued in the area. I am a bit frustrated in that there appears to be more earlier information available but I do not have access to the sources for this information. They are: McCoy Material, Etc. By Mary Ann VanZandt Bell Ancestors of Our Grandchildren and Their Cousins, 742-1977: Harriet R. Frische If this is available in any of your local sources I would appreciate it if someone could pass on to me what it says about this Kincaid family. I am most interested in where this information came from (ie. family bible, letters, etc.). Best wishes! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kincaide, Norman (LNG-CSP)" <Norman.Kincaide@lexisnexis.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Admiral Kinkaid's ancestry was Re: George RogerClark'spapers > Here is what I have found this weekend. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > New York > 1800 Robert Kincaid, Goshen, Orange County, NY, 1 male 26-45, 1 male > 10-16, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-45, 1 female 16-26, 3 females > under 10. USFC, p. 354. > 1800 James Kincaid, Hartford, Washington County, NY, 1 male 26-45, 1 > female 16-26, 2 females under 10. USFC, p. 516. > 1800 John Kincaid, Hartford, Washington County, NY, 2 males 26-45, 1 > male 16-26, 1 female 16-26. USFC, p. 515.

Dear Mary, I posted some of the early information from Ben Dixon's book on: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:51:04 -0500 I have copied and pasted it here: Sincerely Norman Kincaide Dear Kincaid-listers here is what I have extracted from Ben Dixon's book of the earliest Kinkades of his line. I still have been unable to connect this line with any Pennsylvania line. Statements below indicate a Virginia connection. Perhaps the Virginia folks can shed light upon this or see some connection that I have been unable to perceive. I have added 1880 census records for Andrew Kinkade & Secrest Kinkade, sons of David Kinkade and Rebecca Osborn and Eleazer Kinkade, son of James Kinkade and Nancy Taylor. Sincerely Norman Kincaide Memory Notes of the Doyen By Charles Andrew Kinkade I visited Aunt Elisabeth in June 1915, at Rose Hill, Iowa. Uncle Seek had been dead about a year; was 85 when he died. Aunt Elisabeth was 81. I got the Spillman history from her. She never referred to notes, but gave me names and children's names from memory. Uncle Seek and my father, E.S. Kinkade had only about six months difference in their ages. But each claimed the other was the oldest! "The name of Grandfather John Kinkade and Grandmother Polly are familiar to me. But I had forgotten about them. . . . There is a break in the history of the Kinkades, of their residence in Virginia. I had thought that our Kinkade ancestors were Virginians. I heard my father say they lived quite a length of time in Virginia; also about a large tract of land left them there. I don't know who originally owned the land; perhaps grandfather's father, David Kinkade, or someone farther back." Statement of Aunt Elisabeth Kinkade, wife of Secrest Kinkade below. But grandfather (Andrew) wanted to own it, and he once made a trip to Virginia to see about it, and to learn what it would cost to get the land back. He offered each of the ten heirs $30.00 for their share. They refused to sell for less than $300.00. He thought that was all it was worth, and didn't buy. I don't know how much there was of it, but understood it was a large mountain place, away from market. Aunt Elisabeth told me that according to Uncle Secrest, the land was in Culpepper County, VA. Chart of Descent of the Kinkades John Kinkade born in Belfast, Ireland to Colonies about 1750 1st generation James Kinkade came to Virginia about 1788 married Nancy Taylor, 1791 John Kinkade married Polly Davis Nancy Kinkade married ? Johnson, in Davies County, MO? Elisabeth Kinkade married David Davis, Jamestown, Ohio Margaret Kinkade never married. Children of James Kinkade and Nancy Taylor (son Eleazer stated his father was born in Ireland, from 1880 census) John Kinkade married Isabella Adams Eleanor Kinkade married William Abraham Jane Kinkade married James Steen Mary Ann Kinkade married Hugh Lee Robert Kinkade married Sarah Stansberry Ruhamah Kinkade married Thomas P. McCarrell James Kinkade married Marie Elliott George Kinkade Eleazer Kinkade married Hannah Lyons Children of John Kinkade and Polly Davis James Kinkade David Kinkade married Rebecca Osborn Children of David & Rebecca Osborn Andrew Kinkade b. 1802 d. 1881, married Ann Tingley John Kinkade married Elisa Brittain Aaron Kinkade married Rachel ____ David Kinkade married _____Smith Mary Kinkade married Henry Morris Sarah Kinkade married _____ Haines Phoebe Kinkade married _____Brittain Christina Kinkaid married _____ Ferrin Rebecca Kinkade married William McCurdy Secrest Kinkade b. 1828 d. 1914 married Elisabeth Spillman Children of Robert Kinkade and Sarah Stansberry (son of James Kinkade and Nancy Taylor) Ruhamah Kinkade m. John Jeffrey Ruth Kinkade James Kinkade John Kinkade Ruth E. Kinkade married J.H. Wallace, Siloam Springs, Ark. Mary Ann Kinkade married William Black, Pawnee County, NE Robert T. Kinkade married Katie Blair, Springfield, MO. Elisha S. Kinkade married Anna McDowell, Eskridge, KS. Andrew Kinkade born 1802, died 1881, married Ann Tingley Children of Andrew Kinkade & Ann Tingley Eben S. Kinkade, b. 1827, d. 1905 married Sarah Spillman Arouna Kinkade married Rachel McCurdy Benjamin Kinkade married 4 times David Kinkade married Mary Cronin Second Maria Elston Andrew Kinkade married Harriet Scott Rebecca Kinkade married Andrew Cronin Rachel Kinkade never married Deborah Kinkade married Abram Millar Eben S. Kinkade, oldest son of Andrew Kinkade and Ann Tingley, was born in Ohio, July 27, 1827, died April 26, 1905 in Clark County, MO. His mother was a descendant of the Massachusetts and New Jersey Tingleys; his father was from the Kinkades of Pennsylvania. At age 23 went to Shelby County, IN. In 1855 Eben S. Kinkade moved west to Stark County, IL, farmed on Spoon River near Toulon. In 1869 he moved to Sandusky, IA worked as a stone mason In 1871 he moved to Sweet Home Township, Clark County, MO. Married Sarah Spillman on June 14, 1851. She died on April 17, 1875 in Peaksville, MO. Children of Eben S. Kinkade and Sarah Spellman Charles Andrew Kinkade b. 1852 Catherine Ann Kinkade b 1853 Cynthia Eleanor Kinkade b. 1855 David William Kinkade d. Benj. Franklin Kinkade b 1857 Edgar Lane Kinkade d Emma Jane Kinkade d Rachel Maria b 1861 Infant d William S. Kinkade 1865 Thomas Spillman Kinkade d Martha Louise Kinkade d. James Dorsey Kinkade b 1870 Eben S. Kinkade b 1872 Secrest Kinkade b. 1828 d. 1914 married Elisabeth Spillman (Secrest Kinkade was the youngest child of David Kinkade and Rebecca Osborn) Children of Secrest & Elisabeth Spillman Illinois Essex County 1880 Secrist Kincade, [000022] born 1828, in OH, age 52, white, married, farmer, father b PA, mother b PA, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Elizabeth Kincade, born 1835, in IN, age 45, white, keeps house, father b KY, mother b OH, Wife of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Henry Kincade, [000022] born 1855, in IN, age 25, white, single, farmer, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Aurilia Kincade, [000022] born 1859, in IL, age 21, white, single, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Beatrice Kincade, [000022] born 1867, in IL, age 13, white, single, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Mabel Kincade, [000022] born 1870, in IL, age 10, white, daughter of Secrict Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 William Kincade, [000022] born 1872, in IL, age 8, white, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Oscar Kincade, [000022] born 1875, in IL, age 5, white, son of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Myrtle Kincade, [000022] born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, daughter of Secrist Kincade, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. 1880 Bessie Kincade, [000022] born 1878, in IL, age 2, white, father b PA, mother b IL, granddaughter of Secrist Kincaide, Essex, Stark County, IL. USFC, p. 363C. Iowa Madison County 1880 Eleazer Kinkaid, [000022] born 1811, in WV, age 69, white, married, book canverser, father b Ireland, mother b PA, Winderset, Madison County, IA. USFC, p. 133A. (son of James Kinkade and Nancy Taylor) 1880 Hannah Kinkaid, born 1861, in PA, age 64, white, keeps house, father b Ireland, mother b PA, wife of Eleazer Kinkaid, Winderset, Madison County, IA. USFC, p. 133A. 1880 Reynolds Robert Kinkade, [000022] born 1855, in IA, age 25, white, single, attorney, father b WV, mother b PA, Toledo, Lucas County, IA. USFC, p. 123D. Son of Eleazer Kinkade [000022] & Hannah Lyons. Ohio Monroe County 1880 Andrew Kinkade, [000022] born 1801, in PA, age 79, white, farmer, widowed, father b PA, mother b NJ, Bethel Township, Monroe County, OH, USFC, p. 424C. (son of David Kinkade & wife Rebecca Osborn). 1880 Rachel Kinkade, [000022] born 1838, in OH, age 42, white, keeping house, father b PA, mother b OH, daughter of Andrew Kinkade, Bethel Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, p. 424C. 1880 Douglas P. Kinkade, [000022] born 1864, in OH, age 16, white, at home, father b OH, mother b OH, grandson of Andrew Kinkade, Bethel Township, Monroe County, OH. USFC, p. 424C.

Both your tests came through. Ruth In a message dated 7/31/2008 8:33:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes: This is a second test. Sincerely Norman Kincaide To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Norman, Yes, I received both your test messages. Shirley Kincaid Davidson shirleydavidson@earthlink.net "It takes a team to build a dream". > [Original Message] > From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Date: 07/31/2008 10:29:57 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Second test > > This is a second test. > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, I'm slowly incorporating the Ben Dixon book information into my timeline, but I have been putting it into a separate file as well and comparing it with the rest of my data to try to find commonalities with other lines. The early record is too vague to match them up with any other lineage.  A DNA sample would help greatly but I understand that is not a possibility at this time. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

This is a second test. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

This is a test to see if this email is posted to the list.  The last message I sent I received a failure notice. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

Norman, I was very interested to see your message July 28 with the data from the Ben Dixon book and the old email message from Diana Kincaid. Is the information in the Ben Dixon book available where one could read it on the internet or any other place? I have known of the book for some time but wasn't certain if my line is in it or not. The Joseph Kinkade (in Diana's message) who married Sarah Maring in my ancestor (you and I have corresponded about them in the past). Diana Kincaid and I exchanged our information probably about 10 years ago, but I have lost contact with her. Do you know if anyone has had contact with her recently? Going on down through your message to the last paragraph where you mentioned Edward being born in 1857 before Andrew Kinkade married Harriet Scott in 1865 -- is there any chance someone mistyped the date of marriage as 1865 when they meant 1856 -- just a thought. Also, you'll note that Edward Leander Kinkade was not the only Leander -- Joseph and Sarah named their first son Leander Marion Kinkade. Mary Hart

Mary, I'm slowly incorporating the Ben Dixon book information into my timeline, but I have been putting it into a separate file as well and comparing it with the rest of my data to try to find commonalities with other lines. The early record is too vague to match them up with any other lineage.  A DNA sample would help greatly but I understand that is not a possibility at this time. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary Hart <mfhart@grm.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:45:57 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Ben Dixon Book Kinkades Norman, I was very interested to see your message July 28 with the data from the Ben Dixon book and the old email message from Diana Kincaid. Is the information in the Ben Dixon book available where one could read it on the internet or any other place?  I have known of the book for some time but wasn't certain if my line is in it or not. The Joseph Kinkade (in Diana's message) who married Sarah Maring in my ancestor (you and I have corresponded about them in the past).  Diana Kincaid and I exchanged our information probably about 10 years ago, but I have lost contact with her.  Do you know if anyone has had contact with her recently? Going on down through your message to the last paragraph where you mentioned Edward being born in 1857 before Andrew Kinkade married Harriet Scott in 1865 -- is there any chance someone mistyped the date of marriage as 1865 when they meant 1856 -- just a thought. Also, you'll note that Edward Leander Kinkade was not the only Leander --  Joseph and Sarah named their first son Leander Marion Kinkade. Mary Hart To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Mary.  The census information matches the Ben Dixon dates and pretty much precludes Edward Leander Kinkade being the son of Andrew Kinkade (born 1840) and Harriet Scott (born 1844) and he probably would have followed his father to West Virginia if he was their son.  It's also clear from the Ben Dixon record that Edward Leander was the son of Rachel Kinkade out of wedlock; the father is never mentioned.  I have looked for any other cross over information between the two families and I haven't found any.     Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary Hart <mfhart@grm.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:45:57 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Ben Dixon Book Kinkades Norman, I was very interested to see your message July 28 with the data from the Ben Dixon book and the old email message from Diana Kincaid.. Is the information in the Ben Dixon book available where one could read it on the internet or any other place?  I have known of the book for some time but wasn't certain if my line is in it or not. The Joseph Kinkade (in Diana's message) who married Sarah Maring in my ancestor (you and I have corresponded about them in the past).  Diana Kincaid and I exchanged our information probably about 10 years ago, but I have lost contact with her.  Do you know if anyone has had contact with her recently? Going on down through your message to the last paragraph where you mentioned Edward being born in 1857 before Andrew Kinkade married Harriet Scott in 1865 -- is there any chance someone mistyped the date of marriage as 1865 when they meant 1856 -- just a thought. Also, you'll note that Edward Leander Kinkade was not the only Leander --  Joseph and Sarah named their first son Leander Marion Kinkade. Mary Hart To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The link is: http://wwe1.osc.state.ny.us From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: "Genealogy, KINCAID" <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Genealogy, KINKEAD-L" <KINKEAD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkeads/Kincaids owed money by New York > There are fifteen KINKEADs and fifty-one KINCAIDs owed money by New York > state (unless Eliott Spitzer spent it on you-know-whom). > > Dick Kinkead 2562 > Lantana, FL > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This money is not taxable to an heir unless the whole estate was valued at $600,000 or more. That may change next year (decrease or disappear) as a result of the election. For a living claimant, it's likely the tax was already paid unless the income is interest or dividends in excess of $400. The search term is "UNCLAIMED PROPERTY." Dick K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Kinkead" <rkinkead11@comcast.net> To: "Genealogy, KINCAID" <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Genealogy, KINKEAD-L" <KINKEAD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Kinkeads/Kincaids owed money by Florida My sister and I received the last of the claimed monies from our parents' estates yesterday-- $463 each. Cost to file the claim= $5 for a death certificate and 42¢ for a stamp. We've called in close to $9,000 from the state over the thirty years since my dad died and the ten since mom passed away, mostly forgotten utility deposits, stocks erroneously thought defunct, small account interest, etc. Worth a look in YOUR state. State Treasurer's Office usually. Dick Kinkead 2562 Lantana, FL

Don- I'll give it a try. Can't cost more than a couple of stamps, eh? Dick K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Kinkeads/Kincaids owed money by Florida Dick, Good detective work! I visited with our local post office about the dead letter in 1700's and they said it would be worth a try. They did not know exactly what would be needed in order to show descendancy from the addressee. Don

There is one KINKEAD (Julia) and there are nine KINCAIDs owed by Nebraska. http://www.treasurer.state.ne.us/up/upsearchprop.asp Dick Kinkead 2562 Lantana, FL

There are fifteen KINKEADs and fifty-one KINCAIDs owed money by New York state (unless Eliott Spitzer spent it on you-know-whom). http://wwe1.osc.state.ny.us/ouf/oufSearchAction.cfm Dick Kinkead 2562 Lantana, FL