K-listers- A heads-up for those with the time and $$: If you plan on heading to Edinburgh for The Gathering on July 25-26, here's something else that might interest you: Celtic Kingdoms Voyage, July 3rd - July 17th, 2009, http://sterlingtravelinc.com/cruises_019.shtml . The cruise is hosted by some conservative commentators but, if they're not to your liking, you can always duck them, and the election will be history by then anyway. I salivated when I read this, 'cause it ain't gonna happen for me. But if . . . Dick Kinkead 2562 A1a Lantana, FL

Don, I made a booboo, I spelled it like my last name when I typed it in the subject line, boy, habits die hard don't they? I found the paper very interesting. I would like to review all the original documents he used for this paper. He had access to so many land holdings, they had to know who owned the majority of land in that area. Not to mention the time frame, during some of Irelands worst times, this Kincaid headed many charitable funds in order to help relieve the suffering of so many who were less fortunate. Whether he did this for personal gain, enhancing his business associations, or whether he did this for the truly unselfish love of his fellow man, he did make a name for himself and his business partner and long into this century after he was gone. Kelly Kincade-Lewis Kelly, > > A great read and one that will make us proud to be a Kincaid of any > spelling not only because Joseph was a very prominent citizen but because > he seemed to be a good man and treated everyone he dealt with fairly. It > would be interesting to find why or how the spelling changed from Kinkead > for Rev. Joseph to Kincaid for his grandson Joseph. This Joseph Kincaid > was also spelled Kincaide once in the article. > > Don W. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lewisjo@junct.com > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's > > > >Here it is: > > http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider > > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > > > > Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > > track of it. > > > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: lewisjo@junct.com > > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of > 1840's > > > > > > Peter, > > Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish > Land > > agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this > info, I > > can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond > > Norton, > > University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is > the > > correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this > paper > > by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be > downloaded > > easily. > > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link in case someone else is interested. I did not keep track of it. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's Peter, Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish Land agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this info, I can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond Norton, University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is the correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this paper by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be downloaded easily. Kelly Kincade-Lewis

>Here it is: http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider Kelly Kincade-Lewis Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > track of it. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lewisjo@junct.com > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's > > > Peter, > Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish Land > agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this info, I > can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond > Norton, > University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is the > correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this paper > by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be downloaded > easily. > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kelly, A great read and one that will make us proud to be a Kincaid of any spelling not only because Joseph was a very prominent citizen but because he seemed to be a good man and treated everyone he dealt with fairly. It would be interesting to find why or how the spelling changed from Kinkead for Rev. Joseph to Kincaid for his grandson Joseph. This Joseph Kincaid was also spelled Kincaide once in the article. Don W. ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's >Here it is: http://ideas.repec.org/p/ucn/wpaper/200208.html#provider Kelly Kincade-Lewis Thanks for thinking of us Kelly. I have read this paper. > He was the grandson of Rev. Joseph Kinkead of > Killinchy, County Down who was of the Baronscourt, > County Tyrone Kincaids. You can post the link > in case someone else is interested. I did not keep > track of it. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lewisjo@junct.com > To: KINCAID@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Stewart & Kincade: Irish Land Agents of 1840's > > > Peter, > Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish Land > agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this info, I > can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond > Norton, > University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is the > correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this paper > by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be downloaded > easily. > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, Do you have the information on J.R. Stewart & Joseph Kincaid, Irish Land agents with an office that was in Dublin? If you don't have this info, I can get the url for anyone who wants it. It is a paper by Desmond Norton, University College Dublin, published by School of Economics, it is the correspondence of the land agency which has been discussed in this paper by the above author. The paper is 32 pages long and can be downloaded easily. Kelly Kincade-Lewis

Place name: Fort Kincaid Description: Fort Kincaid perpetuates the name of David Kincaid, who aided in establishing it. (HIST. MISSOURI, p. 182; E.W. Stephens) Source: Pace, Nadine. "Place Names In The Central Counties Of Missouri." M.A. thesis., University of Missouri-Columbia, 1928. http://whmc.umsystem.edu/exhibits/ramsay/ramsay_howard.html See the following for further discussion of interest: http://matsonfamily.net/WelchAncestry/family_welch.htm http://searches2.rootsweb.com/th/read/KYLINCOL/2000-03/0953534522 This seems to be the the David/Matthew family that was with Daniel Boone and hailed from the Calfpasture. http://jesshistorical.com/text/DraperMS.txt Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort Being a newbie, I'm glad that you sometimes hash over queries more than once. I still don't know for sure what is relevant to my particular line yet, until I've been doing this as long as most of you have. I have been over the archives, but apparently missed this one that mentioned "Mordecai". Even after going over the archives, there are times that I am still uncertain as to what was determined after everyone has discussed a particular finding. I know that most of you have been doing this research for years, but it has been most helpful to have the input from so many others, even when they aren't "looking" for my particular line. Maybe alot of this info is common knowledge to everyone else, but it's been great to see the new dialog, that I can interact with, respond to, and ask questions of. Some might even correspond directly with each other, off the list, so I wouldn't pick up on it in the archives. Does anyone know if this Lora Mather is still active on the list? Kelly Kincade-Lewis Why does it feel we are going in circles sometimes? Here is a message > from > the Archives. Ruth Cherecwich > > From: "DonWKincaid" < donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fort Kincaid, Missouri -John, David, & Matthew > Kincaid > Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:51:16 -0600 > References: <000e01c714be$0cc5cd60$67020a0a@Barb5150> > Barbara, Here is what Sue wrote in 03 to the list about Fort Kincaid or > Kincaid's Fort as some call it: > > I looked through what little info I have on Andrew Co. I have part of the > 1850 census. There is one Kincaid family in the part I do have. Henry age > 51 > and Rebecca age 46, both born in KY. Children all born in MO: Mary K. 21; > Betsey E. 17; James 15; Rebecca 13; Ary V 12; Cynthea 7; Robert 4. There > may > be other families in the parts of the census I don't have. > > I also scanned over some letters written by an early MO Babtist minister. > The Thorp Letters were first published in a Clay Co. MO newspaper and are > now on line. The url I have is > http://www.amug.org/~almoore/thorpletters/thorp7.html They are quite > interesting as he is recounting his memories from early Missouri > settlement > at Cooper's Fort to early Clay Co.settlement. In recounting the problems > with indians in 1811 he says:; "The Indians made raid on them (Cole > Fort), > killing Stephen Cole and I think one or two others, which forced them to > retreat to the N side of the river and shelter at KINKAID'S Fort, which > was > about one mile above where old Franklin was built afterwards. Of the 5 > original forts in the Booneslick area only 3 were left after the indian > raids." The Booneslick area is in present Howard Co. Does anyone know > anything about this Kincaid Fort? Sue > Below is what Lora Mather sent to list in 03 about Kincaid Fort: > > Check out www.rootsweb.com. Go to Missouri and select Howard County. > Howard > County is north of Cooper County , Missouri. There a section on Old > Settlers Forts and give the exact location of the Kincaid Fort. Including > a > listing of the settlers. I believe these Kincaids followed Daniel Boone > from > Boonesboro, Kentucky. > > I am working the connections to my husband's family. His gg father was > from > Grundy County, Missouri. Family record says his first name was Mordecia. > Closest I can find is a Jacob Kincade in 1870 census. > > We will be interested in what you come up with on Fort Kincaid! > > Happy Hunting! > Don W. Kincaid 1427 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:28 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Fort Kincaid, Missouri -John, David, & Matthew Kincaid > > > Does anyone know the history of Fort Kincaid, Missouri and David, > Matthew, > and John Kincaid? > > This query is on a Howard County, MO website: > > KINKADE/KINKEAD/KINCADE and BARNES. Trying to determine relationships of > David, Matthew, John KINCAID at Fort Kincaid during war of 1812, and to > confirm > names of David KINCAID's children, e.g. Dorcas, Isabel, Charles Lewis. > Also > children of Dorcas KINCAID m. Amos BARNES at Fort Kincaid. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mohoward/quer14.html > > > Barbara Van Hout > > > In a message dated 9/21/2008 9:26:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: > 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth > McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David > would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 > children. > > Who built Kincaids fort? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > > >> Stumbled across the following tidbit: >> >> Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers >> The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph >> 1873 >> >> Kincaid >> John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, >> Nov. >> 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built >> Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the >> war >> of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid > %20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? 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The following is from the Thompson list at rootsweb, by Robert W. Thompson, 6 Feb 1999: "I am researching Thompsons of Jessamine County, Kentucky. My ancestor, Joseph Thompson was born in Virginia, married Mary Gibson about 1769/70 and moved his family to Fayette (later to become Jessamine Co) Kentucky in 1787. His children were all born in Virginia before the time of the move. Family tradition is confusing with references to Culpepper and Albermale counties being the Virginia home. Strong evidence suggests that the family actually came from Augusta Count. A Joseph Thompson and wife Mary sold land in Augusta Co in 1787. The 1787/88 tax lists indicate that Joseph Thompson removed to Kentucky, etc. Trying to connect Joseph to other Augusta Co Thompson families. Joseph was probably born about 1745. Joseph died in Jessamine Co in 1809 and Mary died between 1812 and 1815. Joseph and Mary had children as follows: RACHEL b. 1770 m. Archibald Logan d. 1833, lived in Fayette and Jessamine Co's. WASHINGTON SAMUEL b. 1771 m. Jean Lowrey d. 1826 in Harrison Co Ky. MARGARET b. 1772 m. David Dennis d. 1862 remained in Jessamine Co. ELIZABETH m. John Lewis Paul. JOSEPH b. 1781 m. Sarah Paul d. 1845. ALEXANDER m. Rebecca Jackson d. 1822. AGNIS/NANCY m. James Gailey went to Shelby Co Ky then to Montgomery Co, Indiana. MARY/POLLY m. John Kinkead WILLIAM G. b. 1783 m. Elizabeth Shivell d. 1859 (my direct ancestor), lived in Fayette, Jessamine, Campbell and finally Henry Co, Ky." And this dated 1 Apr 2000, sent to the Thompson list by Glen Thompson: Joseph Tompson's estate was settled 1 August 1811 and recorded September 1811. Executors: William Gibson, Samuel Thompson. Legatees: May Thompson (sic) [presumably his wife Mary], James Galey; A. Logan; William Thompson; D. Dennis; Samuel Thompson; John Paul; John Kinkead. Witnesses: Hawkins Kirby; James Norvell; Elizabeth Thompson. Sale of the estate of Joseph Thompson dated 22 March 1810 and recorded Sept 1811. Source: Abstracts of Jessamine County, Kentucky Wills 1797-1813. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort I believe that David's brother John married Mary "Polly" Thompson and were in Shelby County, KY in the early 1800's. The names of John Kincaid/Polly Thompson (daughter of Joseph Thompson/Mary Gibson of Jessamine County) match some of the names of children of David Kinkead who went to Boone County, MO. David and John both had daughters named Dorcas and sons named Matthew. John/Polly of Shelby County had a daughter named Elizabeth. Matthew, son of John Kincaid/Mary Polly Thompson moved to Montgomery County, Indiana with the Galey relatives in the 1820's. MARRIAGES: Performed by Rev. James Crawford, 1786 - 1795, Fayette Co., KY The Rev. John Dabney Shane Manuscript Collection of the Presbyterian Historical Association, 28th Reel, Vol. 5, Papers of James Crawford. (Crawford, minister of Walnut Hill Presbyterian Church, Fayette Co., KY (and others)) Marriage David Kinkaid & Jane Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) The information has been transcribed according to the manuscript EXCEPT for the parenthetical question marks "(?)" which were placed where names were extremely questionable. 1786 "April 11th Joined in Marriage David Kinkaid & Jane Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "April 13th Joined in Marriage James Young & Mary Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "April 20th Joined in Marriage James Black & Elizabeth Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "Oct. 5th Joined in Marriage John McDonald & Sarah Kinkaid. 1790 "Augt. 12th John Kinkaid & Mary Thompson. "Jan. 27th 1791. James Gailey & Nancy Thompson. "Mar. 3d Archibald Logan & Rachel Thompson. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/fayette/vitals/marriages/c616-001.txt *********************** Records that name the children of John Kincaid/Polly in Shelby County as posted by descendant Henry Counihan: Recorded Will Book 3, starting on page 450, Shelby County, KY. POLLY KINKEAD Recorded book 3 page 450. Know all men by these presents, that I John Kinkeade of Shelby County(Kentucky) do make over and will to Polly Kinkeade my wifeduring her lifetime a Negrowoman named Molly, to have and Ýo hold her during the time above mentioned to wait on her to which we the under signed do set our hands and af(f)ix our Seals this 20th of July 1816. Signed; JOHN KINKEAD, in the presence of James Neal (Jane),Matthew Kinkead: William Mulliken (Dorcas); James Galey (Polly); Polly Kinkád; Elizabeth Kinkead (her mark); James Neal ************* Shelby County Court August Term 1816 The within instruments of writing purporting to be the last will and testament was presented to the Court and proven by the Oaths James Neal and Jesse Vancleave witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded. Jno Newland Clk. The John Kinkead Administrative Settlement, Jas Neill Admin Debonis non, was presented at the June 1842 Court Schd Subject to Exception, and in July was ordered to be recorded in Will Book No. 15 page 27, Attested: James S. Whitaker, Clerk Deed Book U of Shelby County, Kentucky, pages 283 & 284 This indenture made this 28th day of September 1825, between James Galey and America his wife, Samuel Galey and Polly his wife, James Neal and Jane his wife. William Mulliken and Diorcas his wife, & Elizabeth Kinkade a part of the heirs of John Kinkead dec'd of the first part and Allen Kinkead of the second part all of oldham Shelby Counties, witnesseth that whereas John Kinkead departed his life leaving a tract of land in Shelby County on the waters of Bullskin containing about one hundred and twenty acres to descend to his children a part of whom are named as above; the boundaries of whisch tract will appear by reference to a deed made by Benjamin Vancleave to the said John Kinkead bearing the date the 27th day of October 1814 and a deed from the said Matthew Kinkead bearing the date the 6th of June 1816, both recorded in the office of the County Court of Shelby and the said John Kinkead also left several slaves to be divided, which slaves with their increase ar e now five in number and the above parties have made the following agreement; to wit James Galey and America his wife, Samuel Galey and Polly his wife, James Neil and Jane his wife, Elizabeth Kinkead, Joseph Kinkead and Adderson Kinkead severally agree to release and convey their undivided interest in said land to the said Allen Kinkead, and the said Allen Kinkead in consideration thereof is to releaseand convey to the parties last named all his interest in the slaves aforesaid, and the said William Mullakin and his wife agree to sell their undivided interest in the land to the said Allen Kinkead for the sum of Eighty Dollars in Specie, now therefore the pary of the first part in pursuance of said agreement and for the consideration in the agreement expressed have granted bargained and sold and by thes presents do convey unto the party of the second part and his heirs forever that interestin said tract of land. T o have and to hold the undivided interest of the party of the first part in and to the said tract of land to him the said party of the second part and his heirs forever and the party of the first part Covenant that they will warrent said undivided interest to the party of the second part and his heirs forever against claim of all persons whomsoever. In Testimony whereof the said party of the first part have hereto set their hands & seals the day first above written, Signed: James Neill; Samuel Galey; Mary Galey; Jane Neill; James Galey: America Galey; Elizabeth Kinkead; William Mullikin; Dorcas Mullikin It appears that the youngest children of John/Polly were Allen, Joseph and Addison. Allen Kincaid married Susannah Ellis and remained in Shelby County, KY. Addison Kincaid married Evelyn Waide in 1833 in Hardin County, KY and remained there, with sons John and James. I don't know who Joseph married. There is another deed recorded in Deed Book X, pages 60 &61, of Shelby County, Kentucky, that was made between Addison Kinkead of the county of Jefferson , Kentucky, and Joseph Kinkead of Boon County, Kentucky, both now of Shelby County, Kentucky, made with Allen Kinkead of Shelby County, Kentucky, dated 9 September 1828, in which Addison and Joseph relinquish their interest in the 120 acres on Bullskin Creek for Allen's relinquishing his interest in the several slaves. This was recorded in the Shelby County Court Clerk's office on 9 September 1828. Att. Ja. S, Whitaker Clk Deed Book U, Page 285/286 of Shelby County, Kentucky This indenture made this 28th day of September 1825 between Allen Kinkead fo Shelby County of the first part and James Galey Jun. & America his wife; Samuel Galey and Polly his wife;James Neill and Jane his wife;Elizabeth Kinkead, joseph Kinkead and Adderson Kinkead of the second part Witnesseth that whereas John Kinkead Dec'd left a tract of about 120 acres of land and several slaves which amount at this time to five in number to descend to hiss heirs of whom the above parties and apart and the parties aforesaid have agreed that the party of the first part shal release his title to the slavess to the party of the second part and the partyy of the second partt in consideration thereof and to convey to the party of the first part their undivided interest in the tract of land under which agreement all the party of the second parthave joined in a conveyance of land except Joseph Kinkead and Adison Kinkead who are hereafter to release their Ýitle. Now the party of the first part in pursuance of said agreement and in consideration of the interest conveyed and to be conveyed as aforesaid doth both release transfer & convey to the party of the second part and his heirs forever all his right and title and undivided interest in the slaves aforesaid and will warrent his title hereby released to the pary of the second part and their heirs against all claims of all persons whomsoever. In Testimony whereof the party of the first part hath hereunder set his hand and seal the date first above written. Signed: Allen Kinkead Shelby County Court Office Sct This deed was acknowledged before me in my office on the 28th day of September 1828 by Allen Kinkead to be his act and deed and thereupon the same was duly recorded. Att Ja. S . Whitaker ck In 1842 all male descendents of John Kinkead had moved out of Kentucky according to the Commissioners appointed by the Shelby County Court to settle the estate. See" Will" settlement by June term of 1842. James Neal and presumably his wife Jane still resided in Shelby County. In fact they spent their last days there. In fact Allen Kinkead was living on Shelby County land deeded from his siblings, if he would provide for their mother. He has a will filed in Shelby County Court in 1852. Apparently the Commissioners wer not very thorough See deed bond under Polly Kinkead #146. Deed book U page 285, Shelby County Court records. More records from Henry Counihan here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/kincaid/2006-06/1149827917 Barbara Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis House" <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth > McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David > would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 > children. > > Who built Kincaids fort? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > > >> Stumbled across the following tidbit: >> >> Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers >> The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph >> 1873 >> >> Kincaid >> John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. >> 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built >> Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war >> of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

I believe that David's brother John married Mary "Polly" Thompson and were in Shelby County, KY in the early 1800's. The names of John Kincaid/Polly Thompson (daughter of Joseph Thompson/Mary Gibson of Jessamine County) match some of the names of children of David Kinkead who went to Boone County, MO. David and John both had daughters named Dorcas and sons named Matthew. John/Polly of Shelby County had a daughter named Elizabeth. Matthew, son of John Kincaid/Mary Polly Thompson moved to Montgomery County, Indiana with the Galey relatives in the 1820's. MARRIAGES: Performed by Rev. James Crawford, 1786 - 1795, Fayette Co., KY The Rev. John Dabney Shane Manuscript Collection of the Presbyterian Historical Association, 28th Reel, Vol. 5, Papers of James Crawford. (Crawford, minister of Walnut Hill Presbyterian Church, Fayette Co., KY (and others)) Marriage David Kinkaid & Jane Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) The information has been transcribed according to the manuscript EXCEPT for the parenthetical question marks "(?)" which were placed where names were extremely questionable. 1786 "April 11th Joined in Marriage David Kinkaid & Jane Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "April 13th Joined in Marriage James Young & Mary Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "April 20th Joined in Marriage James Black & Elizabeth Grimes.(or Gwinn/Guinn/Guynn ?) "Oct. 5th Joined in Marriage John McDonald & Sarah Kinkaid. 1790 "Augt. 12th John Kinkaid & Mary Thompson. "Jan. 27th 1791. James Gailey & Nancy Thompson. "Mar. 3d Archibald Logan & Rachel Thompson. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/fayette/vitals/marriages/c616-001.txt *********************** Records that name the children of John Kincaid/Polly in Shelby County as posted by descendant Henry Counihan: Recorded Will Book 3, starting on page 450, Shelby County, KY. POLLY KINKEAD Recorded book 3 page 450. Know all men by these presents, that I John Kinkeade of Shelby County(Kentucky) do make over and will to Polly Kinkeade my wifeduring her lifetime a Negrowoman named Molly, to have and Ýo hold her during the time above mentioned to wait on her to which we the under signed do set our hands and af(f)ix our Seals this 20th of July 1816. Signed; JOHN KINKEAD, in the presence of James Neal (Jane),Matthew Kinkead: William Mulliken (Dorcas); James Galey (Polly); Polly Kinkád; Elizabeth Kinkead (her mark); James Neal ************* Shelby County Court August Term 1816 The within instruments of writing purporting to be the last will and testament was presented to the Court and proven by the Oaths James Neal and Jesse Vancleave witnesses thereto and ordered to be recorded. Jno Newland Clk. The John Kinkead Administrative Settlement, Jas Neill Admin Debonis non, was presented at the June 1842 Court Schd Subject to Exception, and in July was ordered to be recorded in Will Book No. 15 page 27, Attested: James S. Whitaker, Clerk Deed Book U of Shelby County, Kentucky, pages 283 & 284 This indenture made this 28th day of September 1825, between James Galey and America his wife, Samuel Galey and Polly his wife, James Neal and Jane his wife. William Mulliken and Diorcas his wife, & Elizabeth Kinkade a part of the heirs of John Kinkead dec'd of the first part and Allen Kinkead of the second part all of oldham Shelby Counties, witnesseth that whereas John Kinkead departed his life leaving a tract of land in Shelby County on the waters of Bullskin containing about one hundred and twenty acres to descend to his children a part of whom are named as above; the boundaries of whisch tract will appear by reference to a deed made by Benjamin Vancleave to the said John Kinkead bearing the date the 27th day of October 1814 and a deed from the said Matthew Kinkead bearing the date the 6th of June 1816, both recorded in the office of the County Court of Shelby and the said John Kinkead also left several slaves to be divided, which slaves with their increase ar e now five in number and the above parties have made the following agreement; to wit James Galey and America his wife, Samuel Galey and Polly his wife, James Neil and Jane his wife, Elizabeth Kinkead, Joseph Kinkead and Adderson Kinkead severally agree to release and convey their undivided interest in said land to the said Allen Kinkead, and the said Allen Kinkead in consideration thereof is to releaseand convey to the parties last named all his interest in the slaves aforesaid, and the said William Mullakin and his wife agree to sell their undivided interest in the land to the said Allen Kinkead for the sum of Eighty Dollars in Specie, now therefore the pary of the first part in pursuance of said agreement and for the consideration in the agreement expressed have granted bargained and sold and by thes presents do convey unto the party of the second part and his heirs forever that interestin said tract of land. T o have and to hold the undivided interest of the party of the first part in and to the said tract of land to him the said party of the second part and his heirs forever and the party of the first part Covenant that they will warrent said undivided interest to the party of the second part and his heirs forever against claim of all persons whomsoever. In Testimony whereof the said party of the first part have hereto set their hands & seals the day first above written, Signed: James Neill; Samuel Galey; Mary Galey; Jane Neill; James Galey: America Galey; Elizabeth Kinkead; William Mullikin; Dorcas Mullikin It appears that the youngest children of John/Polly were Allen, Joseph and Addison. Allen Kincaid married Susannah Ellis and remained in Shelby County, KY. Addison Kincaid married Evelyn Waide in 1833 in Hardin County, KY and remained there, with sons John and James. I don't know who Joseph married. There is another deed recorded in Deed Book X, pages 60 &61, of Shelby County, Kentucky, that was made between Addison Kinkead of the county of Jefferson , Kentucky, and Joseph Kinkead of Boon County, Kentucky, both now of Shelby County, Kentucky, made with Allen Kinkead of Shelby County, Kentucky, dated 9 September 1828, in which Addison and Joseph relinquish their interest in the 120 acres on Bullskin Creek for Allen's relinquishing his interest in the several slaves. This was recorded in the Shelby County Court Clerk's office on 9 September 1828. Att. Ja. S, Whitaker Clk Deed Book U, Page 285/286 of Shelby County, Kentucky This indenture made this 28th day of September 1825 between Allen Kinkead fo Shelby County of the first part and James Galey Jun. & America his wife; Samuel Galey and Polly his wife;James Neill and Jane his wife;Elizabeth Kinkead, joseph Kinkead and Adderson Kinkead of the second part Witnesseth that whereas John Kinkead Dec'd left a tract of about 120 acres of land and several slaves which amount at this time to five in number to descend to hiss heirs of whom the above parties and apart and the parties aforesaid have agreed that the party of the first part shal release his title to the slavess to the party of the second part and the partyy of the second partt in consideration thereof and to convey to the party of the first part their undivided interest in the tract of land under which agreement all the party of the second parthave joined in a conveyance of land except Joseph Kinkead and Adison Kinkead who are hereafter to release their Ýitle. Now the party of the first part in pursuance of said agreement and in consideration of the interest conveyed and to be conveyed as aforesaid doth both release transfer & convey to the party of the second part and his heirs forever all his right and title and undivided interest in the slaves aforesaid and will warrent his title hereby released to the pary of the second part and their heirs against all claims of all persons whomsoever. In Testimony whereof the party of the first part hath hereunder set his hand and seal the date first above written. Signed: Allen Kinkead Shelby County Court Office Sct This deed was acknowledged before me in my office on the 28th day of September 1828 by Allen Kinkead to be his act and deed and thereupon the same was duly recorded. Att Ja. S . Whitaker ck In 1842 all male descendents of John Kinkead had moved out of Kentucky according to the Commissioners appointed by the Shelby County Court to settle the estate. See" Will" settlement by June term of 1842. James Neal and presumably his wife Jane still resided in Shelby County. In fact they spent their last days there. In fact Allen Kinkead was living on Shelby County land deeded from his siblings, if he would provide for their mother. He has a will filed in Shelby County Court in 1852. Apparently the Commissioners wer not very thorough See deed bond under Polly Kinkead #146. Deed book U page 285, Shelby County Court records. More records from Henry Counihan here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/kincaid/2006-06/1149827917 Barbara Van Hout ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis House" <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth > McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David > would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 > children. > > Who built Kincaids fort? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > > >> Stumbled across the following tidbit: >> >> Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers >> The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph >> 1873 >> >> Kincaid >> John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. >> 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built >> Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war >> of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Being a newbie, I'm glad that you sometimes hash over queries more than once. I still don't know for sure what is relevant to my particular line yet, until I've been doing this as long as most of you have. I have been over the archives, but apparently missed this one that mentioned "Mordecai". Even after going over the archives, there are times that I am still uncertain as to what was determined after everyone has discussed a particular finding. I know that most of you have been doing this research for years, but it has been most helpful to have the input from so many others, even when they aren't "looking" for my particular line. Maybe alot of this info is common knowledge to everyone else, but it's been great to see the new dialog, that I can interact with, respond to, and ask questions of. Some might even correspond directly with each other, off the list, so I wouldn't pick up on it in the archives. Does anyone know if this Lora Mather is still active on the list? Kelly Kincade-Lewis Why does it feel we are going in circles sometimes? Here is a message > from > the Archives. Ruth Cherecwich > > From: "DonWKincaid" < donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fort Kincaid, Missouri -John, David, & Matthew > Kincaid > Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:51:16 -0600 > References: <000e01c714be$0cc5cd60$67020a0a@Barb5150> > Barbara, Here is what Sue wrote in 03 to the list about Fort Kincaid or > Kincaid's Fort as some call it: > > I looked through what little info I have on Andrew Co. I have part of the > 1850 census. There is one Kincaid family in the part I do have. Henry age > 51 > and Rebecca age 46, both born in KY. Children all born in MO: Mary K. 21; > Betsey E. 17; James 15; Rebecca 13; Ary V 12; Cynthea 7; Robert 4. There > may > be other families in the parts of the census I don't have. > > I also scanned over some letters written by an early MO Babtist minister. > The Thorp Letters were first published in a Clay Co. MO newspaper and are > now on line. The url I have is > http://www.amug.org/~almoore/thorpletters/thorp7.html They are quite > interesting as he is recounting his memories from early Missouri > settlement > at Cooper's Fort to early Clay Co.settlement. In recounting the problems > with indians in 1811 he says:; "The Indians made raid on them (Cole > Fort), > killing Stephen Cole and I think one or two others, which forced them to > retreat to the N side of the river and shelter at KINKAID'S Fort, which > was > about one mile above where old Franklin was built afterwards. Of the 5 > original forts in the Booneslick area only 3 were left after the indian > raids." The Booneslick area is in present Howard Co. Does anyone know > anything about this Kincaid Fort? Sue > Below is what Lora Mather sent to list in 03 about Kincaid Fort: > > Check out www.rootsweb.com. Go to Missouri and select Howard County. > Howard > County is north of Cooper County , Missouri. There a section on Old > Settlers Forts and give the exact location of the Kincaid Fort. Including > a > listing of the settlers. I believe these Kincaids followed Daniel Boone > from > Boonesboro, Kentucky. > > I am working the connections to my husband's family. His gg father was > from > Grundy County, Missouri. Family record says his first name was Mordecia. > Closest I can find is a Jacob Kincade in 1870 census. > > We will be interested in what you come up with on Fort Kincaid! > > Happy Hunting! > Don W. Kincaid 1427 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:28 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Fort Kincaid, Missouri -John, David, & Matthew Kincaid > > > Does anyone know the history of Fort Kincaid, Missouri and David, > Matthew, > and John Kincaid? > > This query is on a Howard County, MO website: > > KINKADE/KINKEAD/KINCADE and BARNES. Trying to determine relationships of > David, Matthew, John KINCAID at Fort Kincaid during war of 1812, and to > confirm > names of David KINCAID's children, e.g. Dorcas, Isabel, Charles Lewis. > Also > children of Dorcas KINCAID m. Amos BARNES at Fort Kincaid. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mohoward/quer14.html > > > Barbara Van Hout > > > In a message dated 9/21/2008 9:26:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: > 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth > McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David > would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 > children. > > Who built Kincaids fort? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > > >> Stumbled across the following tidbit: >> >> Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers >> The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph >> 1873 >> >> Kincaid >> John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, >> Nov. >> 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built >> Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the >> war >> of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid > %20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? 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Stumbled across the following tidbit: Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph 1873 Kincaid John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm

Why does it feel we are going in circles sometimes? Here is a message from the Archives. Ruth Cherecwich From: "DonWKincaid" < donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fort Kincaid, Missouri -John, David, & Matthew Kincaid Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:51:16 -0600 References: <000e01c714be$0cc5cd60$67020a0a@Barb5150> Barbara, Here is what Sue wrote in 03 to the list about Fort Kincaid or Kincaid's Fort as some call it: I looked through what little info I have on Andrew Co. I have part of the 1850 census. There is one Kincaid family in the part I do have. Henry age 51 and Rebecca age 46, both born in KY. Children all born in MO: Mary K. 21; Betsey E. 17; James 15; Rebecca 13; Ary V 12; Cynthea 7; Robert 4. There may be other families in the parts of the census I don't have. I also scanned over some letters written by an early MO Babtist minister. The Thorp Letters were first published in a Clay Co. MO newspaper and are now on line. The url I have is http://www.amug.org/~almoore/thorpletters/thorp7.html They are quite interesting as he is recounting his memories from early Missouri settlement at Cooper's Fort to early Clay Co.settlement. In recounting the problems with indians in 1811 he says:; "The Indians made raid on them (Cole Fort), killing Stephen Cole and I think one or two others, which forced them to retreat to the N side of the river and shelter at KINKAID'S Fort, which was about one mile above where old Franklin was built afterwards. Of the 5 original forts in the Booneslick area only 3 were left after the indian raids." The Booneslick area is in present Howard Co. Does anyone know anything about this Kincaid Fort? Sue Below is what Lora Mather sent to list in 03 about Kincaid Fort: Check out www.rootsweb.com. Go to Missouri and select Howard County. Howard County is north of Cooper County , Missouri. There a section on Old Settlers Forts and give the exact location of the Kincaid Fort. Including a listing of the settlers. I believe these Kincaids followed Daniel Boone from Boonesboro, Kentucky. I am working the connections to my husband's family. His gg father was from Grundy County, Missouri. Family record says his first name was Mordecia. Closest I can find is a Jacob Kincade in 1870 census. We will be interested in what you come up with on Fort Kincaid! Happy Hunting! Don W. Kincaid 1427 ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:28 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Fort Kincaid, Missouri -John, David, & Matthew Kincaid Does anyone know the history of Fort Kincaid, Missouri and David, Matthew, and John Kincaid? This query is on a Howard County, MO website: KINKADE/KINKEAD/KINCADE and BARNES. Trying to determine relationships of David, Matthew, John KINCAID at Fort Kincaid during war of 1812, and to confirm names of David KINCAID's children, e.g. Dorcas, Isabel, Charles Lewis. Also children of Dorcas KINCAID m. Amos BARNES at Fort Kincaid. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mohoward/quer14.html Barbara Van Hout In a message dated 9/21/2008 9:26:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, dhouse95@earthlink.net writes: 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 children. Who built Kincaids fort? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > Stumbled across the following tidbit: > > Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers > The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph > 1873 > > Kincaid > John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. > 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built > Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war > of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Excuse me He arrived in MO. in that year, not Ky. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis House" <dhouse95@earthlink.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > 1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth > McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David > would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 > children. > > Who built Kincaids fort? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > > >> Stumbled across the following tidbit: >> >> Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers >> The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph >> 1873 >> >> Kincaid >> John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. >> 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built >> Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war >> of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1801 is the year that David Kinkead, s/o Mathew Kinkead(d.1775)/Elizabeth McTeer, arrived in Ky. His brother John was also around somewhere. David would have been 37 or 38 at that time, and he is said ti have had 8 children. Who built Kincaids fort? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid - father built Kincaid fort > Stumbled across the following tidbit: > > Death Notices From Callaway Newspapers > The Telegraph and The Missouri Telegraph > 1873 > > Kincaid > John Kincaid, an old pioneer, died at his residence in Boone County, Nov. > 5th, aged 77 years. He came to Missouri in 1801, and his father built > Kincaids Fort, in Cooper's bottom. Deceased was a pensioner of the war > of 1812. Nov. 28, 1873 3/2 > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/callaway/Obits/Obits1873.htm > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps your database can shed more light on whether this is our George. George was in partnership with William Bell of Rammerscales at the time of his death. There were three Bell brothers in the sugar business (James, William and Richard). They all died without issue and it seems their heir was the well known William Bell McDonald, son of their sister Mary. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 The 1813 - 1835 refers to the dates for all the cases indexed in the website so the 2 cases referred to could be any year from 1812 to 1836. I hope we have someone on the Kincaid list that lives near New Orleans who can check these 2 court cases and report what they find. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 I think your court case could be relevant. James' older brother George was a sugar refiner. His company was called George Kincaid & Company. He died in 1820. I am not sure what his partnership then became known as. Perhaps the 1835 later date is simply that the case continued to then. Thanks Don! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 It looks like the website I got the info on George Kincaid/Johanna M. Baldwin was in error on them being in New Orleans so ignore that part of my last post. It seems there was a George Kincaid in New Orleans sometime between 1813 and 1835 since George Kincaid & Company were Plaintiffs in a case in the 1st Judicial Court, Orleans Parish 1813-1835 Docket # 8907. Also in same time period, Banks, Miller and Kincaid were defendants, docket 7095. Of interest in doing the search for descendants of James Kincaid of Georgetown, I ran across a book N.H. The Lost Arrowhead in True Stories of West Texas which has info on a George and William Kincaid so look forward to finding and reading it. Don To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think your court case could be relevant. James' older brother George was a sugar refiner. His company was called George Kincaid & Company. He died in 1820. I am not sure what his partnership then became known as. Perhaps the 1835 later date is simply that the case continued to then. Thanks Don! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 It looks like the website I got the info on George Kincaid/Johanna M. Baldwin was in error on them being in New Orleans so ignore that part of my last post. It seems there was a George Kincaid in New Orleans sometime between 1813 and 1835 since George Kincaid & Company were Plaintiffs in a case in the 1st Judicial Court, Orleans Parish 1813-1835 Docket # 8907. Also in same time period, Banks, Miller and Kincaid were defendants, docket 7095. Of interest in doing the search for descendants of James Kincaid of Georgetown, I ran across a book N.H. The Lost Arrowhead in True Stories of West Texas which has info on a George and William Kincaid so look forward to finding and reading it. Don

The website with the New Orleans court cases is http://nutrias.org/inv/1jdc/g1jdc.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 Perhaps your database can shed more light on whether this is our George. George was in partnership with William Bell of Rammerscales at the time of his death. There were three Bell brothers in the sugar business (James, William and Richard). They all died without issue and it seems their heir was the well known William Bell McDonald, son of their sister Mary. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 The 1813 - 1835 refers to the dates for all the cases indexed in the website so the 2 cases referred to could be any year from 1812 to 1836. I hope we have someone on the Kincaid list that lives near New Orleans who can check these 2 court cases and report what they find. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 I think your court case could be relevant. James' older brother George was a sugar refiner. His company was called George Kincaid & Company. He died in 1820. I am not sure what his partnership then became known as. Perhaps the 1835 later date is simply that the case continued to then. Thanks Don! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Don W. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chief of Kincaid was Re: James Kincaid of Washington,DC--1825 It looks like the website I got the info on George Kincaid/Johanna M. Baldwin was in error on them being in New Orleans so ignore that part of my last post. It seems there was a George Kincaid in New Orleans sometime between 1813 and 1835 since George Kincaid & Company were Plaintiffs in a case in the 1st Judicial Court, Orleans Parish 1813-1835 Docket # 8907. Also in same time period, Banks, Miller and Kincaid were defendants, docket 7095. Of interest in doing the search for descendants of James Kincaid of Georgetown, I ran across a book N.H. The Lost Arrowhead in True Stories of West Texas which has info on a George and William Kincaid so look forward to finding and reading it. Don To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can add this to any future vetting posts of yours: "Springfield News-Leader, Wednesday, 27 September 1961 > Mrs. Beulah Grace Kincade, 72, of 2012 North National, died at 5 am > today > at Burge Protestant Hospital, where she had been a patient two weeks. > She > was the widow of John A Kincade, who died in 1959 <sic>. They had > operated the Kincade Wallpaper Company. > Mrs. Kincade was a resident of Springfield 50 years, moving here from > Arnett, Oklahoma. She was a member of the Church of God. > Survivors include a son, C. I. Kincade, 1256 S. Florence; two > daughters, Miss Cleda Kincade and Mrs. Cora M. Hessee, both of 1028 1/2 > E. > Commercial; tghree stepsons Robert Kincade, 1007 North Jefferson, Ross > <last name not listed>, Oklahoma City, and Arthur Kincade, Wichita; > three > stepdaughters, Mrs. Fay Shelton, Arnett, Okla; Mrs. Ada Lane Pampa, Tx, > and Mrs. Louise Hickman, Dallas, Tx; a brother Charles Daykin, > Hoisington, > Kan, and three sisters, Mrs. Mabel Dodsworth, 2012 North National, Mrs. > Katherine Henry of the state of California, and Mrs. Hannah Hayes, > Hoisington, KS. > Ralph Thieme is in charge of arrangements." http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KINCAID/1998-08/0902152312 ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade Now I am quite sure there was something on this Arthur Warren Kincaid somewhere (an old letter or something). I see he was in Who's Who in America. Got me curious where I saw things. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade > Peter, Thank you. I have tried to find info on his death, but have been unsuccessful. My sister wondered if someone "pushed" him in front of an oncoming train, being as his wife remarried quickly to a man also employed by the rail road company. But seriously, if I had the means, I would go to Chillicothe and research this myself. At present, I'm not in the physical position to do any traveling. I had a great uncle, named Arthur Warren Kincade, who was the President of the Fourth National Bank in Wichita, Kansas for decades, and I understood that he had hired a genealogist to research our line of Kincades, but to this date, I have not been able to track down a single word of truth to that statement. Kelly Kincade-Lewis To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Goodness sakes, there is a special collection for Arthur. See: http://specialcollections.wichita.edu/Collections/ms/86-23/86-23-A.HTML Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade Now I am quite sure there was something on this Arthur Warren Kincaid somewhere (an old letter or something). I see he was in Who's Who in America. Got me curious where I saw things. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade > Peter, Thank you. I have tried to find info on his death, but have been unsuccessful. My sister wondered if someone "pushed" him in front of an oncoming train, being as his wife remarried quickly to a man also employed by the rail road company. But seriously, if I had the means, I would go to Chillicothe and research this myself. At present, I'm not in the physical position to do any traveling. I had a great uncle, named Arthur Warren Kincade, who was the President of the Fourth National Bank in Wichita, Kansas for decades, and I understood that he had hired a genealogist to research our line of Kincades, but to this date, I have not been able to track down a single word of truth to that statement. Kelly Kincade-Lewis To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now I am quite sure there was something on this Arthur Warren Kincaid somewhere (an old letter or something). I see he was in Who's Who in America. Got me curious where I saw things. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: lewisjo@junct.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Amended Post - Vetting #129770 to Mathew Kincade > Peter, Thank you. I have tried to find info on his death, but have been unsuccessful. My sister wondered if someone "pushed" him in front of an oncoming train, being as his wife remarried quickly to a man also employed by the rail road company. But seriously, if I had the means, I would go to Chillicothe and research this myself. At present, I'm not in the physical position to do any traveling. I had a great uncle, named Arthur Warren Kincade, who was the President of the Fourth National Bank in Wichita, Kansas for decades, and I understood that he had hired a genealogist to research our line of Kincades, but to this date, I have not been able to track down a single word of truth to that statement. Kelly Kincade-Lewis