I did something new yesterday. Google has a feature which will allow one to receive an Alert on subjects or names of your choosing. Quite some time ago I had put in Cherecwich and Cherewich and it's amazing what I get notified of that appears in print. So yesterday, I decided to put in a few Kincaid name variations along with the word obit. The two that I posted earlier were ones that Google found and sent me. Each time I get sent one, I will copy and paste the obit giving the appropriate source so that I stay within copyright guidelines. I will also put the appropriate name and dates in the subject line. In this way, we might be able to find some current cousins. Ruth Cherecwich **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

I don't know who posted "Bucky's obit on the net but I certainly appreciate it. For those who knew "Bucky" he was, in my opinion, a good person and a fine Marine. When "Bucky was much younger and growing up we spent some time together. His father and mine were brothers. I salute you cousin. I hope that you are at peace. Ron Kincaid ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utahn1@aol.com> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Walter Joseph Kincaid About 1936 - 2008 > Walter Joseph Kincaid > Walter Joseph Kincaid, 72, died Thursday, Oct. 23, at his residence. > A graveside service will be held at 1 p.m. Monday at the National > Cemetery, > 1711 National Ave., New Bern. > > He is survived by his wife of 47 years, Dorothy Louise Kincaid of > Havelock; > two daughters, Thelma Hunt of Havelock and Belinda Hyland of Tulsa, Okla.; > two > brothers, Jack Kincaid of Olean, N.Y., and Gerald Kincaid of Portville, > N.Y.; two sisters, Mary Alice Gaylor of Hinsdale, N.Y., and Peggy > Petrillo of > Belfast, N.Y.; five grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. > > Visitation will be held from 6 to 7 p.m. Sunday at the Woodbridge Funeral > Chapel, 908 Lake Road, Havelock. > In lieu of flowers, memorial donations may be made to the Veteran of > Foreign > Wars, P.O. Box 331, Havelock, N.C. 28532 or the American Cancer Society, > P.O. Box 22718, Oklahoma City, Okla. 73123. > > Published in the Sun Journal from 10/24/2008 - 10/27/2008 > New Bern, North Carolina > > **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your > favorites, > no registration required and great graphics – check it out! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= > http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

Walter Joseph Kincaid Walter Joseph Kincaid, 72, died Thursday, Oct. 23, at his residence. A graveside service will be held at 1 p.m. Monday at the National Cemetery, 1711 National Ave., New Bern. He is survived by his wife of 47 years, Dorothy Louise Kincaid of Havelock; two daughters, Thelma Hunt of Havelock and Belinda Hyland of Tulsa, Okla.; two brothers, Jack Kincaid of Olean, N.Y., and Gerald Kincaid of Portville, N.Y.; two sisters, Mary Alice Gaylor of Hinsdale, N.Y., and Peggy Petrillo of Belfast, N.Y.; five grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. Visitation will be held from 6 to 7 p.m. Sunday at the Woodbridge Funeral Chapel, 908 Lake Road, Havelock. In lieu of flowers, memorial donations may be made to the Veteran of Foreign Wars, P.O. Box 331, Havelock, N.C. 28532 or the American Cancer Society, P.O. Box 22718, Oklahoma City, Okla. 73123. Published in the Sun Journal from 10/24/2008 - 10/27/2008 New Bern, North Carolina **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

Bruce Kincaid Obituary Bruce Kincaid Dies Monday Daniel Bruce Kincaid, 79, of Crandon, died suddenly at 10 o’clock Monday morning at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Ac Pence, also of Crandon. Funeral services were held at 2 o’clock today at the Halverson Funeral Home here, with the Rev. Frank D. Harris, Presbyterian pastor, officiating. Interment was in the Crandon Lakeside cemetery. Deceased was born Nov. 19, 1880, in Lee county, Ky., the son of Thomas and Polly Kincaid. Mr. Kincaid was married on Mary 25, 1903, to Callie Donna Plummer, who died May 17, 1958. Mr. Kincaid was a resident of Crandon since April 1, 1921. He operated a dairy farm here for many years. Among the survivors are three daughters, Mrs. Ac (Georgetta) Pence of Crandon, and Mrs. Ralph (Geneva) Rhode and Mrs. Alfred (Nola) Rhode of Oconto; five sisters, Mrs. Edith Campbell, of Booneville, Ky,; Mrs. Carrie Hoskins of Lexington, Ky., Mrs. Marian Rowllins of Evarts, Ky., Mrs Mattie Wilder of Hamilton, Ohio, Mrs. Posy Flannery of Levi, Ky., and Mrs. Elizabeth Kincaid of Hamilton, Ky.; two brothers, Wm. Kincaid of Cambell, Calif., and Morgan Kincaid of Steinhatche of Florida; seven grandchildren and five great grandchildren. Besides his wife, a son who died in infancy, two brothers and two sisters preceded him in death. Published January 7, 1960 Forest County Republican Crandon, WI **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

Thanks, Margie. The results for 130404 will establish the DNA signature of James Woodburn as lines from 2 sons are represented. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie von Marenholtz" <dieckhorst@q.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 - James Woodburn Kinkaid's 7sons > JAMES WOODBURN KINKADE/KINKAID'S 7 SONS: > > 1841 - Philip Thomas Kinkade (only used Thomas) > > 1843 - David Kinkade - 15550 > > 1845 - Samuel Kinkade > 1847 - John Kinkade > 1849 - James W. Kincaid > > 1851 - William Kinkade - 130404 > > 1854 - Thompson Richison Kinkade, died in infancy. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > > >> The only thing that would require another line from James is if the >> marker >> 15 (459b) result were to come back as a 10. This is a major variance with >> the Group A AAV and would need to be investigated. I don't anticipate >> that >> happening. >> >> I would like to to know which sons130404 and 15550 descend through. >> Technically if they both descend through the same son, the DNA signature >> is >> established for that son. If they descend through different sons, then >> James >> Woodburns signature is established. For practical purposes, even if they >> descend through the same son, we can extrapulate the signiture for James >> because others whose ancestors have similar birthdates share the same >> results. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 >> >> >>> Probably not. The DNA signature for James would >>> be established. You would be just chasing mutations >>> for the other lines descending from him. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Margie von Marenholtz >>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 >>> >>> >>> If 130404 and 15550 group together, would there be any value to having >>> a >>> descendant of yet another son of James Woodburn K tested? >>> >>> Margie von Marenholtz >>> Silverdale, WA >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:11 AM >>> Subject: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 >>> >>> >>> > The 22-37 marker panel for 130404 has been returned. He matches the >>> Group >>> > A >>> > AAV on all markers in this panel except marker 35 (CDYb) where he has >>> a >>> 38 >>> > instead of the AAV 39. He has ordered 67 markers. >>> > >>> > Note: in reporting the results for the 1-12 panel, I mistyped the kit >>> > number. This is the correct kit number. 130404 believes descent from >>> James >>> > Woodburn b 1811 and Margaret Kuhns. The 38 on marker 35 matches 15550 >>> who >>> > also believes descent from James Woodburn. The 38 also matches 2519 >>> who >>> > believes descent from Samuel/Johanna Walch b 1811. Samuel did not >>> > immigrate >>> > from Ireland. 2519 and 15550 also share a 22 at marker 50 (413b). It >>> will >>> > be >>> > interesting to see if 130404 also shares this mutation from the AAV >>> 23. >>> > >>> > Sue Liedtke >>> > >>> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> > >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you one and all for all the responses on the Miami Bottom. It's interesting to learn what it is that makes people move around prior to the age of cars and planes. Ruth In a message dated 10/23/2008 9:03:50 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ccckincaid@netzero.net writes: Ruth, For what its worth, this is my take on the expression, "Escape the Miami bottom".Nearby Fawn Township PA, now called Fawn Grove, where Lewis was raised, is an area, still known today as Peach Bottom. It is low lying land along the Susquehanna River that is periodically flooded. The land is therefore very rich and fertile soil, perfect for farming. However, the periodic flooding also wipes out the farms and farm buildings .After a few disastrous floods along the Miami River I am sure the farmers would look elsewhere for their farm. I believe the Miami Bottom must be the same kind of topography. Lewis was undoubtedly happy to "escape" the disasters he experienced. Chuck -- Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> wrote: I don't know but that would have been Miami County, OH where he is listed in the 1850 Census below. Prior to that he was in Indiana where some of his children were born. In 1830 he was teaching school in Lancaster County, PA. Miami County is directly north of Montgomery County, OH. From the letter it appears he prefers where he is in Montgomery County to his experience in Miami County eight years prior. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: "Utahn1@aol.com" <Utahn1@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:55:49 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid Norman, Why does he say that they escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have any clue as to what might have been going on there at that time? Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes: Here is some more information on Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the possession of Charles (Chuck) Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid. Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th, 1861 Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native neighborhood, for a good while; but I have thought about you very often. I suppose you do not practice penmanship extensively of late but I think Ewing & others might keep me posted in the vicissitudes of your vicinity. I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be very thankful for the health with which we have been blessed, during eight years that have passed since we escaped from the Miami Bottom. Rebecca continues weakly, however. I have spent another 6 months term in the school room during which I earned $220.00. I am ready to be a farmer again, when the weather becomes favorable. We have our little property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few days ago. Thomas taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at home at present. . . Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860: Montgomery County 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher, value $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township,   Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 1.7 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   17. 1860 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   17. 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, house work, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH.   USFC, p. 17. 1860 James.. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH.   USFC, p. 17. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township I can provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 Census: Miami County 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Mary A.. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. I believe he is the son of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here: Clinton County 1850 Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p. Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921] (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, York County, PA. 1850 Deborah Kinkade, age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p.. 1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p. Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County, PA. 1800  Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County, PA for 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation 75, 4 cows, Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Here are Samuel Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801 1801  Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675, 2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, rate 12, valuation 36, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. 1801  Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA as a single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel Jr. taxed as a married man.. 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation 1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 cows, rate 12, valuation 48, amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12, valuation 24, amount 94, tax 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Chuck also has in his possesion letters written by Lewis Kincaid to his cousin John McGlaughlin in York County, PA. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township I do hope some of you will look over this post. Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I am a bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I have particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to James/Barbara Kendall. The 1850 census does not give relationship and the age of 30 is off by 4 years for a James born 1816. It isn't unusual for ages to be off but as this is the only firm linkage to Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs in this section more rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do you have anything else that would help show that this is the same James as in 1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810 census for James as it looks like a single family given the female ages. If just the males were there it would fit better with a couple of bachelor brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the beginnings of the James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James Kincaids in Baltimore in 1820 or just the one? It looks like the James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of Samuel as they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that shows that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would bolster the connection. James R Kincaid took his son to visit friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the Fawn Township that Samuel lived in? I don't know the geography of this region so don't know if you are talking about the same Fawn and don't know where Bryansville-Delta region is. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set 1b) track to John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township. 1st Generation: Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930 Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller Proven by: 1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles Vernon Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid 2. Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they acknowledged me as their son and/or nephew 2nd Generation: Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died December 2, 1950. Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer Proven by: 1. “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, and marriages of Kincaid/Baer family from 1855 onward.. Charles’s birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my possession. 2. 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the Frank Kincaid family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age 44; Delphine, wife, age 45; Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age 14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie A, daughter age 9 and Carroll L, son age 6, Also lists Frank’s mother being born in England. This is accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The census also lists all family members being born in MD except for Delphine who was born in Delta PA, and George and Sophie who were born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn) 3. Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, MD, on September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my possession. 4. Life knowledge: I knew my father’s sister and two brothers and they acknowledged him as their sibling 5. Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles’s numerous accomplishments and civic works over the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois Kincaid as his wife 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and death dates as above. 3rd Generation: Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25, 1856, Died February 22, 1908 Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave Proven by: 1. “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid family from 1855 onward. Frank’s birthday given as January 25, 1856 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706, lists Frank as one of three children of James R. Kincaid , age 40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living in Baltimore, MD, 18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter Clara age 7; son Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid misspelled as Kincaide. 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank W. Kincaid as a son of James R. Kincaid family living at 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of Baltimore Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 4. Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of Bryansville, York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in Bryansville, PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D... Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara V. Kincaid (Frank’s sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files. 5. Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with birth and death dates as above 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. Kincaid and plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. (who died May 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) along with Frank’s unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie’s son, James Wallace who died age 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Clipping also lists Frank’s surviving children as: Charles V. George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L. 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, January 13, 1881. In my possession... 4th Generation James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, 1887 Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall Proven by: 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) Kingcade (James Kincaid’s widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running a boarding house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD 2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an elderly couple, circa 1885, in my possession 3. Gravestone in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid’ s date of birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, age 75, died February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, but one is noted as “child of James R. Kincaid” (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. Baltimore, Md) 4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living at various residences in Baltimore during these years. Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore Md) 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James Kincaid and Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md. 6. Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. Kincaid’s birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887 (Certified Copy, Baltimore City Health Department, Certificate of Death) 5th Generation James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832 Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness ?, and 2) Nancy ? Proven by: 1. James Kincaid was listed in the Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel Kincaid of Fawn, as one of Samuel’s eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, sons John, James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and daughters Margaret Vance, Jenny McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McLeary (dec’d). Also mentioned as an heir was Samuel’s grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York County Heritage Trust files, York, PA) 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, York County, PA, as a single man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA, archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us with an approximate birth year of 1776. 3. James Kincaid arrived in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. Baltimore City Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 4. James Kincaid is listed in the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this brother David Kincaid at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David’s occupation was given as drayman. David listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807.(Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid living in Wards 2-6, Baltimore, one male 26-45, one male 16-25, one female over 45, one female 16-25, two females under 10. (USFC, pg 268) 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and brother Wallace Kincaid as grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. Wallace remained at that address with James until 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 7. U. S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore City. One male 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60, one female 20-30, one female 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female 5-10. (USFC, pg. 189) 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George Roberts. (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society records, Baltimore, MD) 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of September 15, 1832, “James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on September 7.”(Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, Md) James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in Baltimore. He and his wife Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old North Burial ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of Baltimore. James was reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. (Personal Visit to Greenmount Cemetery) 10. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often visited the Fawn Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn with his father, Frank W... Kincaid, who in turn had gone every summer with his father James R.. Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the ⠀œold neighborhood.” That is why my father took me there. 6th Generation Samuel Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn Township, York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ? Proven by: 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land in Fawn Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with “M†). This warrant was filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in Lancaster County warrants. 2. 1756-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a single man in 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the case, Samuel would have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County Archives and Records Service (CCAR) West Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a single man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 4. 1758-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 6. 1762-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of James Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA, October 21, 1762 (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 7. 1763-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 8. 1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester County, PA, on 100 acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 9. 1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and 1772. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 10. 1771- John Kinkead died. Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife Mary, left the farm to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, James. Also left sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from Archibald White in Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered). 12. 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William Gray’s company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn until 1810 (York Co. Archives York Pa.) 13. 1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16, five males under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel Kincaid’s 7 sons were still at home in 1790, if all males listed were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa) 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR) 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs and left Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. Details of will described in 5th generation of this vetting. 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. “Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in Fawn Township in the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, of land originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st month 1771 for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th day of June 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at the request of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for confirmation. Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, Barrens, Thomas Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, Harrisburg.” (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office ,COPIEDSURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.) 17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 perches July 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn Township York County Pa.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent Book Vol 9, pg 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) 7th Generation John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?. Son of unknown parents. Proven by: 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in Chester County until 1728, when John Kinkead and James were taxed as married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were over 21, they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this time, but other information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely place (courtesy of Norman Kincaid) 2..John and James Kinkead taxed in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and 1737. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of land on February 4, 1734 and James received warrant for 150 acres on February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 4.James Kinkead, brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County Tax lists after 1737. 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr., Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead (carpenter) and Robert Kinkead (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd’s salary at Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide ) 7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in 1756; this indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide ) 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771, and 1772, but not after 1772. West Caln Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of land adjacent to John Kinkead’s land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of Chester County, PA, p. 168) 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the administration of the estate of Andrew Kinkead (deceased) in 1769. Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County Donegal, Ireland, but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the ship JUPITER, docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable estate. Samuel was nearest of kin to Andrew Kinkead but was unable to undertake administration of Andrew’s estate and renounced it in favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book H, p. 86, File 1652) 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane, County Tyrone in Ireland in 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765. James’s relationship to John Kinkead and family is not known, but it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead’s youngest son, James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, “James Kinkead, clock and watchmaker of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury Township. Chester County, Pennsylvania, now follows his business at Emmanuel Rouse’s Clock and Watchmaker in Front Street near the drawbridge, Philadelphia.” (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765) 11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead’s will. (Will written November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs documented therein were: wife, Mary, sons John, David, Samuel, Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope (married to John Kinkead’s daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril (married to John Kinkead’s daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford (married ?). 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James Woodburn Kinkade had 7 sons and 1 daughter with first wife Margaret Kuhns. He had 4 daughters with second wife Lydia Dick. His surname was changed to Kinkaid during his marriage to Lydia. All of his children from his first marriage maintained the Kinkade spelling except son James, who used Kincaid, which is what his descendants all carry. His gravestone has Kinkaid. 1841 - Thomas (Philip Thomas) Kinkade, PA>IL>MO (Civil War, 78 IL Inf), 3 sons 1843 - David Kinkade, PA>IL>CA>WA (Civil War, 78 IL Inf), 2 sons 1845 - Samuel Kinkade, PA>IL (Civil War, 118 IL Inf), 4 sons 1847 - John Kinkade, PA>IL>PA/NE? mystery after 1870, possibly 3 sons (not confirmed) 1849 - James Kincaid, PA>IL>CA>WA, 3 sons 1851 - William Kinkade, PA>IL>IA, 4 sons 1854 - Thompson Richison Kinkade PA, died at ten months.

JAMES WOODBURN KINKADE/KINKAID'S 7 SONS: 1841 - Philip Thomas Kinkade (only used Thomas) 1843 - David Kinkade - 15550 1845 - Samuel Kinkade 1847 - John Kinkade 1849 - James W. Kincaid 1851 - William Kinkade - 130404 1854 - Thompson Richison Kinkade, died in infancy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > The only thing that would require another line from James is if the marker > 15 (459b) result were to come back as a 10. This is a major variance with > the Group A AAV and would need to be investigated. I don't anticipate that > happening. > > I would like to to know which sons130404 and 15550 descend through. > Technically if they both descend through the same son, the DNA signature > is > established for that son. If they descend through different sons, then > James > Woodburns signature is established. For practical purposes, even if they > descend through the same son, we can extrapulate the signiture for James > because others whose ancestors have similar birthdates share the same > results. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > > >> Probably not. The DNA signature for James would >> be established. You would be just chasing mutations >> for the other lines descending from him. >> >> Peter >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Margie von Marenholtz >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 >> >> >> If 130404 and 15550 group together, would there be any value to having a >> descendant of yet another son of James Woodburn K tested? >> >> Margie von Marenholtz >> Silverdale, WA >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:11 AM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 >> >> >> > The 22-37 marker panel for 130404 has been returned. He matches the >> Group >> > A >> > AAV on all markers in this panel except marker 35 (CDYb) where he has >> a >> 38 >> > instead of the AAV 39. He has ordered 67 markers. >> > >> > Note: in reporting the results for the 1-12 panel, I mistyped the kit >> > number. This is the correct kit number. 130404 believes descent from >> James >> > Woodburn b 1811 and Margaret Kuhns. The 38 on marker 35 matches 15550 >> who >> > also believes descent from James Woodburn. The 38 also matches 2519 >> who >> > believes descent from Samuel/Johanna Walch b 1811. Samuel did not >> > immigrate >> > from Ireland. 2519 and 15550 also share a 22 at marker 50 (413b). It >> will >> > be >> > interesting to see if 130404 also shares this mutation from the AAV >> 23. >> > >> > Sue Liedtke >> > >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a second call for review of this lineage for vetting. The results are still pending, but as no attempt is made to connect to a known line, I purpose to mark this line as vetted next week unless there are questions or concerns about the lineage. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert/Marcella Campbell" <campbell@comwares.net> To: <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Fw: Vetting for Thomas M. Kincaid > > > > > > > > > Vetting: Doyle Eugene Kincaid to Thomas McDowell Kincaid > Researcher: Marcella Kincaid Campbell, sister > > DNA# 130629 > Testing in Progress. > > Participant: Doyle Eugene Kincaid b. 7 February 1938 - Harrison > Township, Clay County, IN > > Son of: Solomon Kincaid and Pearl Edna Froderman > > Proven by: > > Indiana Birth Certificate listing Doyle Eugene as son of Solomon > Kincaid and Pearl Froderman > > Personal knowledge: I knew Solomon as our father and was acknowledged > by family members as his daughter and Doyle as his son. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Solomon Kincaid b. 4 July 1889 in Jasper Co., IL d. 8 February > 1964 in Clay Co., IN > m. 5 September 1926 to Pearl Edna Froderman > > Son of: James Edgar Kincaid and Harriet Ann Addy > > Proven by: > IL Birth Certificate for Solomon Kincaid listing James Edgar Kincaid > and Harriet Addy as his parents > > Bible Record - Personal possession of Bible ("International Series" > containing Old and New Testaments published by The John C. Winston Co.) > Information recorded in Bible as follows: J.E. Kincaid of Clay Co. IN and > Harriet A. Addy of Clay Co., IN were by me united in Matrimony according > to the ordinance of GOD and the laws of Indiana at Bowling Green on the > (5) fifth day of March in the year of our Lord 1868. Signed by George > Beamer Witnessed by: Livona Kincaid, Mary Funk and Casius Funk. > NOTE: Livonia Kincaid was a sister to J.E. Kincaid (see 1850 census > for Thomas Kincaid) and Mary Funk was a twin sister to Harriet Addy. > Casius Funk was the husband of Mary Funk > > Other records in Bible list the Marriages of the children, including > Solomon on September 5, 1926, Children's Names, including Solomon Kincaid > born on 4 July 1889 along with a twin brother who died unnamed. Deaths > listed were Harriet Kincaid April 10th, 1898 and the unnamed Infant on > August 18th, 1889. I was told that this Bible belonged to James Edgar > and Harriet Kincaid and on the death of Margaret Booker (an older sister > of Solomon) was passed down to my father, Solomon Kincaid. > > Children listed in the Bible are: > > Louie Kincaid Jan, 2nd. 1869 fe > Margaret L. Kincaid Feb. 19th, 1871 fe > William Kincaid Jan, 22nd, 1873 m > Catharine Kincaid Aug. 28th, 1875 fe > John Kincaid July 15th, 1878 m > Thomas Kincaid Mar. 14, 1881 m > Ira Kincaid Feb. 1st, 1884 m > Bertha Kincaid Sept. 23rd, 1886 fe > Solomon Kincaid July 4th, 1889 m > Infant, Kincaid July 4th, 1889 m > > Marriage Application: Application for Marriage License -- Male - > shows the following: > > Solomon Kincaid , white, born in Jasper Co., Illinois on July 4th, > 1889 and presently living at Center Point, IN working as a farmer whose > father was J. E. Kincaid and his mother was Harriet Addy. Subscribed and > sworn to before _____ McIntyre, Clerk Clay Circuit Court, on 4th day of > September 1926. Information also included on Pearl E. Froderman, spouse. > > 1880 Census for South Muddy Township, Jasper Co., Illinois > > Schedule 1, Page 18, Enumeration Dist # 164 > > Dwelling # 159, Family # 164 > > Kincaid, James E 38 M Farmer Indiana KY KY > Kincaid, Harriet A 32 wife Hskp Ohio OH > OH > Kincaid, Louie 11 dau IL > IN OH > Kincaid, Margaret 9 dau IL IN > OH > Kincaid, William 7 son IL > IN OH > Kincaid, Sarah C 4 dau IL IN > OH > Kincaid, John 2 son IL > IN OH > > 1900 Census for South Muddy Township, Jasper Co., Illinois > > Sheet 11, Line 195 > > Kincade, James Dec 1841 58 Wd IN OH OH > Farmer > Kincade, John July 1878 21 IL > Farm laborer > Kincade, Thomas Mar 1881 19 IL > Farm laborer > Kincade, Ira Feb 1884 16 IL > Farm laborer > Kincade, Bertha Sept 1886 13 IL > Kincade, Solomon July 1889 10 IL > Metcalf, Charles W Feb 1873 27 IL IL IL > Farm laborer married 6 yrs > Metcalf, Catherine Aug 1875 24 IL IN IN > > Note: Catherine Metcalf was an older sister of Solomon. Solomon > was born in 1889 so does not show on 1880 census. Sarah "Catherine" > married Charles Metcalf in Feb of 1894 and was living in the household > with her father. See above. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Edgar Kincaid b. 2 December 1841 in Washington Township, Clay > Co., IN d. 12 August 1918 in Richland Co., IL > m. 5 March 1868 in Clay Co., IN Bk 2, pg 784 to Harriet Ann Addy > > > Son of: Thomas McDowell Kincaid & Martha Ann McNabb > > Proven by: > > 1840 Clay Co., IN Census > Thomas M. Kincade 1 male 20-30 1 female under 5 1 female > 20-30 > > 1850 Clay Co., IN Census > Thomas M Kincaid age 34 KY > Martha age 34 KY > Livonia age 14 IN > Samuel L age 11 IN > James Edgar age 7 IN > Mary age 5 IN > Alvin 1/2 IN > . > > 1860 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house # 398, > family number 375 > Thomas M. Kincaid age 49 farmer Kentucky > Martha A. Kincaid age 44 weaver Kentucky > Livonia Kincaid age 22 weaver Indiana > Samuel L. Kincaid age 20 farm laborer Indiana > James E. Kincaid age 18 farm laborer Indiana > Eliza Kincaid age 16 spinster Indiana > Polly Kincaid age 14 Indiana > William N Kincaid age 7 Indiana > Nancy E. Kincaid age 4 Indiana > Henry L. Kincaid age 1 Indiana > > 1870 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house #132, > family number 125 > Kinkade, Thomas 59 farming Kentucky > Kinkade, Martha A 54 keeps house Kentucky > Kinkade, Samuel 31 farm laborer Indiana > Kinkade, William 17 Indiana > Kinkade, Elizabeth 14 Indiana > Kinkade, Henry L 11 Indiana > > 1880 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house #114, > family number 114 > Kingcade, Martha 64 keeps house Kentucky > Kingcade, Samuel 40 farm hand Indiana > > Dwelling house # 115, family # 115 > Kingcade, Henry 21 farm hand Indiana > Kingcade, Alma A 21 keeps house Missouri > > 1900 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house #195, > family #195 > Huber, Frank Oct, 1849 IN PA PA head > Huber, Nancy E. Mar, 1856 IN KY KY wife > Huber, Norie A Jan, 1877 IN IN IN dau > Huber, Marthie Sep, 1878 IN IN IN dau > Huber, Moris (?) M Jun 1886 IN IN IN son (hard to > read sic Lara Melton Huber) > > Kincade, Martha Jan 1816 KY KY KY m-in-law > > > NOTE: James and Harriet Kincaid moved to Jasper Co., Illinois soon > after their marriage in 1868. > Personal knowledge - Have no personal knowledge of any of the > siblings of James E. Kincaid. The last one, Henry, died in 1949 and I had > never met him. I have snapshots of Henry Kincaid with some of his > descendants and my father, Solomon. My father acknowledged that Henry was > his uncle. > > Lara (we called him Larry) Huber in the above 1900 census and my > father, Solomon (went by Toby), were first cousins. I personally knew > Larry and his wife, Eunice, as a child because we visited them often. > (Marcella Kincaid Campbell) > > --:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thomas McDowell Kincaid b. 27 February 1811 in KY d. 31 October > 1875 in Washington Township, Clay Co., IN > m. 18 August 1836 in Morgan Co., IN to Martha Ann McNabb b. 18 > January 1816 in KY d. 4 June 1904 in Washington Township, Clay Co., IN > > Son of: unknown > 1840 census for Washington Township, Clay Co, Indiana shows Thomas M. > Kincade, 1 male under 5, 1 male 20-30, 1 female under 5, 1 female 20-30. > Tombstone inscriptions in Mt Zion Cemetery, Washington Township, Clay > Co., Indiana show Thomas M. Kincaid Born February 12, 1811 Died > October 31, 1875 and Martha A. Kincaid Born January 18, 1816 Died June > 4, 1904 NOTE: I have photos of these stones.( Marcella Kincaid > Campbell) (Marriage Records of Morgan County, Indiana, Book A, page 305 > (1822-1842) W.R. Stevens, Clerk and Signed by A McNabb AJ states the > following: Thomas Kincade to Martha Ann McNabb August 18, 1836 > > Thomas Kincaid entered land 4 September 1837 in Washington Township, > Clay Co., IN E 1/2 NE 1/4 Sec. 28 Township 11 North of Range 5 West > > He lived there until his death in 1875. This property was in the > family for a number of years later, because it was purchased/inherited by > the daughter, Nancy. She and her husband, John Franklin Huber lived there > for a number of years. (I have not checked land records yet on the > succession of this property.) > > NOTE: An Archibald Tousley Kincaid entered land 7 October 1837 in > Washington Township, Clay co., Indiana W 1/2 NE 1/4 Section 17 Township > 11 North of Range 5 West. Cenuse record for 1850 shows Archibald > Kincaid, age 32, b. in Ohio and wife, Sarah, age 22, b. in IN, in > Washington Township, Clay Co., IN with Margaret Bradshaw, age 64, b. PA, > Nancy Kincaid, age 34, b. KY and Nelson Kincaid, age 22 b. IN > > This property is very near the property of Thomas Kincaid and > Archibald could possibly be his brother. I have a copy of a letter > addressed to Thomas Kincaid and family, dated April the th5 1855 from > Nancy Ann Kincaid. She begins by saying "Dear brother and sister". There > is no indication of where this originated. She requests that Thomas shear > her "few sheep" and that Livonia (oldest daughter of Thomas and Martha) to > spin and weave it for her. I have a copy of another letter dated February > th18 1849 from Philip McNabb of Mooresville, Morgan Co., IN to Thomas and > Marthy Kincaid. He addressed them as "Dear and mutch respected Uncle and > Aunt". I have some McNabb information which leads me to believe that > Martha Ann McNabb was the daughter of James Edgar McNabb and Polly Coryell > who came to Morgan Co. in the mid 1830's from Montgomery Co., KY. I can > prove that this Phillip McNabb (who was a doctor) was the grandson of > James Edgar McNabb. Also, Thomas and Martha na! > > med their second son (my grandfather) James Edgar Kincaid . Their first > son was named Samuel. > > The 1860 census for Washington Township, Clay Co, IN shows Nancy L. > Kincaid, 48, weaver b. KY living with the Martin Crows (Crouse) family. > There is a 4 year discrepancy in the age of the Nancy with Archibald and > this Nancy, but still could be the same person. > > The children of Thomas McDowell Kincaid and Martha Ann McNabb were: > > 1. Livonia Kincaid b. 2 February 1837, Clay Co., IN d. 27 > November 1924, Clay Co., IN m. Michael Huber 12 December 1869 in Clay > Co., IN Bk 3, pg 31 > > 2. Samuel L. Kincaid b. 25 September 1839 in Clay Co., IN d. 16 > October 1911 in Clay Co., IN Unmarried - Served in Civil War > > 3. James Edgar Kincaid b. 2 December 1841 in Clay Co., IN d. 12 > August 1918 in Richland Co., IL > m. Harriet Ann Cain or Addy (family used both surnames) 5 March > 1868 in Clay Co., IN Bk 2 pg 784 Served in Civil War > > 4. Eliza Kincaid b. 19 November 1843 in Clay Co., IN d. 32 March > 1924 in Clay Co. (or possibly Owen Co.) IN > m. Charles P. Chambers 19 August 1860 in Clay Co., IN Bk 1, pg 522 > > 5. Mary "Polly" Kincaid b. 12 April 1846 in Clay Co., IN d. 14 > October 1927 in Niota, TN m. Abner T. Perry Ray 15 March 1864 in Clay > Co., IN Bk 2 pg 149 > > 6. Alvin M. Kincaid b. 15 February 1850 in Clay Co., IN d. 9 > October 1851 (probably in Clay Co., IN) > > 7. William Nelson Kincaid b. 15 March 1853 in Clay Co., IN d. 5 > July 1942 (probably in Cumberland Co., IL) m. > Johanna Elizabeth Staley in Clay Co., IN Bk 4 pg 83 > > 8. Nancy Elizabeth Kincaid b. 27 March 1856 in Clay Co., IN d. 24 > January 1935 in Clay Co., IN m. John Franklin Huber 26 March 1847 in > Clay Co., IN Bk 3 pg 504 > > 9. Henry Lewis Kincaid b. 16 September 1858 in Clay Co., IN d. 22 > November 1949 in Blackford Co., IN m. Alma Alice Cravens 24 April 1879 in > Owen County, IN > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only thing that would require another line from James is if the marker 15 (459b) result were to come back as a 10. This is a major variance with the Group A AAV and would need to be investigated. I don't anticipate that happening. I would like to to know which sons130404 and 15550 descend through. Technically if they both descend through the same son, the DNA signature is established for that son. If they descend through different sons, then James Woodburns signature is established. For practical purposes, even if they descend through the same son, we can extrapulate the signiture for James because others whose ancestors have similar birthdates share the same results. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > Probably not. The DNA signature for James would > be established. You would be just chasing mutations > for the other lines descending from him. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Margie von Marenholtz > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > > > If 130404 and 15550 group together, would there be any value to having a > descendant of yet another son of James Woodburn K tested? > > Margie von Marenholtz > Silverdale, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:11 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > > > > The 22-37 marker panel for 130404 has been returned. He matches the > Group > > A > > AAV on all markers in this panel except marker 35 (CDYb) where he has a > 38 > > instead of the AAV 39. He has ordered 67 markers. > > > > Note: in reporting the results for the 1-12 panel, I mistyped the kit > > number. This is the correct kit number. 130404 believes descent from > James > > Woodburn b 1811 and Margaret Kuhns. The 38 on marker 35 matches 15550 > who > > also believes descent from James Woodburn. The 38 also matches 2519 who > > believes descent from Samuel/Johanna Walch b 1811. Samuel did not > > immigrate > > from Ireland. 2519 and 15550 also share a 22 at marker 50 (413b). It > will > > be > > interesting to see if 130404 also shares this mutation from the AAV 23. > > > > Sue Liedtke > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Probably not. The DNA signature for James would be established. You would be just chasing mutations for the other lines descending from him. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Margie von Marenholtz To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 If 130404 and 15550 group together, would there be any value to having a descendant of yet another son of James Woodburn K tested? Margie von Marenholtz Silverdale, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > The 22-37 marker panel for 130404 has been returned. He matches the Group > A > AAV on all markers in this panel except marker 35 (CDYb) where he has a 38 > instead of the AAV 39. He has ordered 67 markers. > > Note: in reporting the results for the 1-12 panel, I mistyped the kit > number. This is the correct kit number. 130404 believes descent from James > Woodburn b 1811 and Margaret Kuhns. The 38 on marker 35 matches 15550 who > also believes descent from James Woodburn. The 38 also matches 2519 who > believes descent from Samuel/Johanna Walch b 1811. Samuel did not > immigrate > from Ireland. 2519 and 15550 also share a 22 at marker 50 (413b). It will > be > interesting to see if 130404 also shares this mutation from the AAV 23. > > Sue Liedtke > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If 130404 and 15550 group together, would there be any value to having a descendant of yet another son of James Woodburn K tested? Margie von Marenholtz Silverdale, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Results for DNA 130404 > The 22-37 marker panel for 130404 has been returned. He matches the Group > A > AAV on all markers in this panel except marker 35 (CDYb) where he has a 38 > instead of the AAV 39. He has ordered 67 markers. > > Note: in reporting the results for the 1-12 panel, I mistyped the kit > number. This is the correct kit number. 130404 believes descent from James > Woodburn b 1811 and Margaret Kuhns. The 38 on marker 35 matches 15550 who > also believes descent from James Woodburn. The 38 also matches 2519 who > believes descent from Samuel/Johanna Walch b 1811. Samuel did not > immigrate > from Ireland. 2519 and 15550 also share a 22 at marker 50 (413b). It will > be > interesting to see if 130404 also shares this mutation from the AAV 23. > > Sue Liedtke > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 22-37 marker panel for 130404 has been returned. He matches the Group A AAV on all markers in this panel except marker 35 (CDYb) where he has a 38 instead of the AAV 39. He has ordered 67 markers. Note: in reporting the results for the 1-12 panel, I mistyped the kit number. This is the correct kit number. 130404 believes descent from James Woodburn b 1811 and Margaret Kuhns. The 38 on marker 35 matches 15550 who also believes descent from James Woodburn. The 38 also matches 2519 who believes descent from Samuel/Johanna Walch b 1811. Samuel did not immigrate from Ireland. 2519 and 15550 also share a 22 at marker 50 (413b). It will be interesting to see if 130404 also shares this mutation from the AAV 23. Sue Liedtke

Ruth, For what its worth, this is my take on the expression, "Escape the Miami bottom".Nearby Fawn Township PA, now called Fawn Grove, where Lewis was raised, is an area, still known today as Peach Bottom. It is low lying land along the Susquehanna River that is periodically flooded. The land is therefore very rich and fertile soil, perfect for farming. However, the periodic flooding also wipes out the farms and farm buildings .After a few disastrous floods along the Miami River I am sure the farmers would look elsewhere for their farm. I believe the Miami Bottom must be the same kind of topography. Lewis was undoubtedly happy to "escape" the disasters he experienced. Chuck -- Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> wrote: I don't know but that would have been Miami County, OH where he is listed in the 1850 Census below. Prior to that he was in Indiana where some of his children were born. In 1830 he was teaching school in Lancaster County, PA. Miami County is directly north of Montgomery County, OH. From the letter it appears he prefers where he is in Montgomery County to his experience in Miami County eight years prior. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: "Utahn1@aol.com" <Utahn1@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:55:49 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid Norman, Why does he say that they escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have any clue as to what might have been going on there at that time? Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes: Here is some more information on Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the possession of Charles (Chuck) Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid. Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th, 1861 Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native neighborhood, for a good while; but I have thought about you very often. I suppose you do not practice penmanship extensively of late but I think Ewing & others might keep me posted in the vicissitudes of your vicinity. I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be very thankful for the health with which we have been blessed, during eight years that have passed since we escaped from the Miami Bottom. Rebecca continues weakly, however. I have spent another 6 months term in the school room during which I earned $220.00. I am ready to be a farmer again, when the weather becomes favorable. We have our little property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few days ago. Thomas taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at home at present. . . Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860: Montgomery County 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher, value $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township,   Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 1.7 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   17. 1860 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   17. 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, house work, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH.   USFC, p. 17. 1860 James.. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH.   USFC, p. 17. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township I can provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 Census: Miami County 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Mary A.. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. I believe he is the son of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here: Clinton County 1850 Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p. Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921] (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, York County, PA. 1850 Deborah Kinkade, age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p.. 1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p. Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County, PA. 1800  Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County, PA for 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation 75, 4 cows, Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Here are Samuel Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801 1801  Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675, 2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, rate 12, valuation 36, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. 1801  Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA as a single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel Jr. taxed as a married man.. 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation 1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 cows, rate 12, valuation 48, amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12, valuation 24, amount 94, tax 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Chuck also has in his possesion letters written by Lewis Kincaid to his cousin John McGlaughlin in York County, PA. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township I do hope some of you will look over this post. Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I am a bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I have particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to James/Barbara Kendall. The 1850 census does not give relationship and the age of 30 is off by 4 years for a James born 1816. It isn't unusual for ages to be off but as this is the only firm linkage to Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs in this section more rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do you have anything else that would help show that this is the same James as in 1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810 census for James as it looks like a single family given the female ages. If just the males were there it would fit better with a couple of bachelor brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the beginnings of the James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James Kincaids in Baltimore in 1820 or just the one? It looks like the James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of Samuel as they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that shows that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would bolster the connection. James R Kincaid took his son to visit friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the Fawn Township that Samuel lived in? I don't know the geography of this region so don't know if you are talking about the same Fawn and don't know where Bryansville-Delta region is. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set 1b) track to John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township. 1st Generation: Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930 Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller Proven by: 1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles Vernon Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid 2. Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they acknowledged me as their son and/or nephew 2nd Generation: Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died December 2, 1950. Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer Proven by: 1. “Kincaid Family Bible� listing births, deaths, and marriages of Kincaid/Baer family from 1855 onward.. Charles’s birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my possession. 2. 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the Frank Kincaid family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age 44; Delphine, wife, age 45; Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age 14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie A, daughter age 9 and Carroll L, son age 6, Also lists Frank’s mother being born in England. This is accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The census also lists all family members being born in MD except for Delphine who was born in Delta PA, and George and Sophie who were born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn) 3. Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, MD, on September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my possession. 4. Life knowledge: I knew my father’s sister and two brothers and they acknowledged him as their sibling 5. Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles’s numerous accomplishments and civic works over the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois Kincaid as his wife 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and death dates as above. 3rd Generation: Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25, 1856, Died February 22, 1908 Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave Proven by: 1. “Kincaid Family Bible� listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid family from 1855 onward. Frank’s birthday given as January 25, 1856 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706, lists Frank as one of three children of James R. Kincaid , age 40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living in Baltimore, MD, 18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter Clara age 7; son Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid misspelled as Kincaide. 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank W. Kincaid as a son of James R. Kincaid family living at 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of Baltimore Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 4. Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of Bryansville, York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in Bryansville, PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D... Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara V. Kincaid (Frank’s sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files. 5. Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with birth and death dates as above 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. Kincaid and plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. (who died May 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) along with Frank’s unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie’s son, James Wallace who died age 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Clipping also lists Frank’s surviving children as: Charles V. George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L. 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, January 13, 1881. In my possession... 4th Generation James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, 1887 Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall Proven by: 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) Kingcade (James Kincaid’s widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running a boarding house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD 2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an elderly couple, circa 1885, in my possession 3. Gravestone in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid’ s date of birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, age 75, died February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, but one is noted as “child of James R. Kincaid� (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. Baltimore, Md) 4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living at various residences in Baltimore during these years. Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore Md) 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James Kincaid and Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md. 6. Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. Kincaid’s birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887 (Certified Copy, Baltimore City Health Department, Certificate of Death) 5th Generation James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832 Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness ?, and 2) Nancy ? Proven by: 1. James Kincaid was listed in the Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel Kincaid of Fawn, as one of Samuel’s eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, sons John, James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and daughters Margaret Vance, Jenny McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McLeary (dec’d). Also mentioned as an heir was Samuel’s grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York County Heritage Trust files, York, PA) 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, York County, PA, as a single man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA, archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us with an approximate birth year of 1776. 3. James Kincaid arrived in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. Baltimore City Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 4. James Kincaid is listed in the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this brother David Kincaid at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David’s occupation was given as drayman. David listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807.(Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid living in Wards 2-6, Baltimore, one male 26-45, one male 16-25, one female over 45, one female 16-25, two females under 10. (USFC, pg 268) 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and brother Wallace Kincaid as grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. Wallace remained at that address with James until 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 7. U. S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore City. One male 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60, one female 20-30, one female 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female 5-10. (USFC, pg. 189) 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George Roberts. (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society records, Baltimore, MD) 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of September 15, 1832, “James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on September 7.�(Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, Md) James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in Baltimore. He and his wife Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old North Burial ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of Baltimore. James was reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. (Personal Visit to Greenmount Cemetery) 10. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often visited the Fawn Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn with his father, Frank W... Kincaid, who in turn had gone every summer with his father James R.. Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the “old neighborhood.� That is why my father took me there. 6th Generation Samuel Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn Township, York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ? Proven by: 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land in Fawn Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with “M�). This warrant was filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in Lancaster County warrants. 2. 1756-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a single man in 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the case, Samuel would have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County Archives and Records Service (CCAR) West Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a single man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 4. 1758-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 6. 1762-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of James Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA, October 21, 1762 (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 7. 1763-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 8. 1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester County, PA, on 100 acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 9. 1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and 1772. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 10. 1771- John Kinkead died. Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife Mary, left the farm to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, James. Also left sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from Archibald White in Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered). 12. 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William Gray’s company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn until 1810 (York Co. Archives York Pa.) 13. 1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16, five males under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel Kincaid’s 7 sons were still at home in 1790, if all males listed were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa) 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR) 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs and left Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. Details of will described in 5th generation of this vetting. 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. “Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in Fawn Township in the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, of land originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st month 1771 for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th day of June 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at the request of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for confirmation. Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, Barrens, Thomas Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, Harrisburg.� (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office ,COPIEDSURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.) 17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 perches July 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn Township York County Pa.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent Book Vol 9, pg 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) 7th Generation John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?. Son of unknown parents. Proven by: 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in Chester County until 1728, when John Kinkead and James were taxed as married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were over 21, they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this time, but other information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely place (courtesy of Norman Kincaid) 2..John and James Kinkead taxed in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and 1737. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of land on February 4, 1734 and James received warrant for 150 acres on February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 4.James Kinkead, brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County Tax lists after 1737. 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr., Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead (carpenter) and Robert Kinkead (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd’s salary at Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide ) 7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in 1756; this indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide ) 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771, and 1772, but not after 1772. West Caln Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of land adjacent to John Kinkead’s land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of Chester County, PA, p. 168) 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the administration of the estate of Andrew Kinkead (deceased) in 1769. Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County Donegal, Ireland, but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the ship JUPITER, docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable estate. Samuel was nearest of kin to Andrew Kinkead but was unable to undertake administration of Andrew’s estate and renounced it in favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book H, p. 86, File 1652) 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane, County Tyrone in Ireland in 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765. James’s relationship to John Kinkead and family is not known, but it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead’s youngest son, James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, “James Kinkead, clock and watchmaker of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury Township. Chester County, Pennsylvania, now follows his business at Emmanuel Rouse’s Clock and Watchmaker in Front Street near the drawbridge, Philadelphia.� (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765) 11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead’s will. (Will written November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs documented therein were: wife, Mary, sons John, David, Samuel, Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope (married to John Kinkead’s daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril (married to John Kinkead’s daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford (married ?). 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Chuck sent me a copy of both letters he has that Lewis Kincaid had written to James McLaughlin. When I asked Chuck about the Miami Bottom he replied "I believe the Miami Bottom Lewis refers to is an area of rich farming land in Ohio that is subject to periodic flooding, hence supposedly good soil - as you suspected." With Chuck's approval we will post the full content of both letters. They are very interesting and give a feel for life back then. One letter even has the envelope it was mailed in. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Clegg To: p2rogers@msn.com ; kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid While not the expert on this issue, and just trying to muddy the waters as it were: I propose that the Miami Bottom might refer to a low lying area between the Greater Miami River and the Little Miami River in Montgomery Co. OH. The Great Black Swamp didn't go that far south in OH. Michael Clegg >>> p2rogers@msn.com 10/22/2008 11:39 AM >>> You may want to check Google/Yahoo about The Great Black Swamp that may have included Miami County, OH. I recently saw a program on PBS regarding an area of NW Ohio and into Indiana.> From: Utahn1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:55:49 -0400> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid> > Norman, Why does he say that they escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have > any clue as to what might have been going on there at that time?> > Ruth Cherecwich> > > In a message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes:> > Here is some more information on Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the > possession of Charles (Chuck) Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid.> > Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th, 1861> > Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native neighborhood, for a > good while; but I have thought about you very often. I suppose you do not > practice penmanship extensively of late but I think Ewing & others might keep > me posted in the vicissitudes of your vicinity.> > I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be very thankful for > the health with which we have been blessed, during eight years that have passed > since we escaped from the Miami Bottom. Rebecca continues weakly, however. > I have spent another 6 months term in the school room during which I earned > $220.00. I am ready to be a farmer again, when the weather becomes > favorable. We have our little property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few > days ago. Thomas taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at > home at present. . .> > Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860:> > Montgomery County> > 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher, value > $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery > County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 1.7> 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, house work, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 James. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I can provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 > Census:> > Miami County> > 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value > $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. > USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Mary A.. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> > I believe he is the son of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here:> > Clinton County> > 1850 Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton > County, OH. USFC, p. > Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921] (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, > York County, PA.> 1850 Deborah Kinkade, age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, > OH. USFC, p..> 1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. > USFC, p.> > Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County, PA.> > 1800 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County, PA for > 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation 75, 4 cows, > Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, > York County, PA Archives.> > Here are Samuel Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801> > 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for > 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675, 2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, > rate 12, valuation 36, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA Archives.> 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA as a > single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA > Archives.> > Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel Jr. taxed as a married man..> > 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA > for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation 1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 > cows, rate 12, valuation 48, amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA Archives.> 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 2 > horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12, valuation 24, amount 94, tax > 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives.> > Chuck also has in his possesion letters written by Lewis Kincaid to his > cousin John McGlaughlin in York County, PA.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I do hope some of you will look over this post.> > Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I am a > bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I have > particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to James/Barbara Kendall. > The 1850 census does not give relationship and the age of 30 is off by 4 > years for a James born 1816. It isn't unusual for ages to be off but as this > is the only firm linkage to Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs > in this section more rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do > you have anything else that would help show that this is the same James as > in 1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the > next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810 > census for James as it looks like a single family given the female ages. If > just the males were there it would fit better with a couple of bachelor > brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the beginnings of the > James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James Kincaids in Baltimore in > 1820 or just the one?> > It looks like the James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of > > Samuel as they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that > shows that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? > Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he > disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would > bolster the connection.> > James R Kincaid took his son to visit friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the > Fawn Township that Samuel lived in? I don't know the geography of this > region so don't know if you are talking about the same Fawn and don't know > where Bryansville-Delta region is.> > Sue Liedtke> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net>> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury > Township> > > > > Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set 1b) track to John Kinkead of > Sadsbury> Township.> > > > 1st Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930> > Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller> > Proven by:> > 1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles > Vernon> Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid> > 2. Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they > acknowledged me as their> son and/or nephew> > > > 2nd Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died > December 2,> 1950.> > Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer> > Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths, and marriages of > Kincaid/Baer family> from 1855 onward. Charles's birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my > possession.> > 2. 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the > Frank Kincaid> family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age 44; Delphine, wife, > age 45;> Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age 14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie > A, daughter> age 9 and Carroll L, son age 6, Also lists Frank's mother being born in > England. This is> accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The > census also> lists all family members being born in MD except for Delphine who was born > in Delta PA,> and George and Sophie who were born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn)> > 3. Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, > MD, on> September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my > possession.> > 4. Life knowledge: I knew my father's sister and two brothers and they > acknowledged him> as their sibling> > 5. Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles's numerous accomplishments and > civic works over> the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois > Kincaid as his> wife> > 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and > death dates as> above.> > > > 3rd Generation:> > Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25, 1856, Died February > 22, 1908> > Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave> > Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid > family from> 1855 onward. Frank's birthday given as January 25, 1856> > 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706, lists Frank as one of three > children of> James R. Kincaid , age 40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living > in Baltimore,> MD, 18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter > Clara age 7; son> Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid misspelled as Kincaide.> > 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank W. Kincaid as a son of James R. > Kincaid> family living at 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of > Baltimore> Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 4. Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of > Bryansville,> York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in > Bryansville,> PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D... Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara > V. > Kincaid> (Frank's sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files.> > 5. Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with > birth and death> dates as above> > 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. > Kincaid and> plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. > (who died May> 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) > along with> Frank's unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie's son, James Wallace > who died age> 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Clipping also lists Frank's surviving children as: > Charles V.> George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L.> > 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, > January 13, 1881.> In my possession...> > > > 4th Generation> > James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, > 1887> > Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall> > Proven by:> > 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) > Kingcade> (James Kincaid's widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running a > boarding> house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD> > 2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an > elderly couple,> circa 1885, in my possession> > 3. Gravestone in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid'> s > date of> birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, > age 75, died> February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, but one > is noted as> "child of James R. Kincaid" (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. > Baltimore, Md)> > 4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living > at various> residences in Baltimore during these years. Baltimore City Directories file, > > Maryland> Historical Society, Baltimore Md)> > 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James > Kincaid and> Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md.> > 6. Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. > Kincaid's> birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887 (Certified > Copy, Baltimore> City Health Department, Certificate of Death)> > > > 5th Generation> > James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832> > Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness ?, and 2) Nancy ?> > Proven by:> > 1. James Kincaid was listed in the Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel > Kincaid of Fawn,> as one of Samuel's eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, > sons John,> James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and daughters Margaret > Vance, Jenny> McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McLeary (dec'd). Also > mentioned as an> heir was Samuel's grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York > County Heritage> Trust files, York, PA)> > 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, > York County,> PA, as a single man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, > > PA,> archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us with an > approximate> birth year of 1776.> > 3. James Kincaid arrived in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. > Baltimore City> Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153 High > St.,> Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore, MD)> > 4. James Kincaid is listed in the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this > brother David> Kincaid at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David's occupation was given as > drayman. David> listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807.(Baltimore City > Directories> file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid living in Wards 2-6, > Baltimore, one> male 26-45, one male 16-25, one female over 45, one female 16-25, two > females under 10.> (USFC, pg 268)> > 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and brother Wallace > Kincaid as> grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. Wallace remained at that address > with James until> 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, > MD)> > 7. U. S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore > City. One male> 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60, one female 20-30, > one female> 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female 5-10. (USFC, pg. 189)> > 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st > Methodist> Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George > Roberts.> (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society > records, Baltimore,> MD)> > 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of > September 15,> 1832, "James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on > September> 7."(Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore, Md)> James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in Baltimore. He and > his wife> Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old > North Burial> ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of > Baltimore. James was> reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. > (Personal Visit to> Greenmount Cemetery)> > 10. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often > visited the Fawn> Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn > with his> father, Frank W.. Kincaid, who in turn had gone every summer with his father > James R..> Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the "old> neighborhood." That is why my father took me there.> > > > 6th Generation> > Samuel Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn > Township,> York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ?> > Proven by:> > 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land > in Fawn> Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, > Records of the> Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with "M"). > This > warrant was> filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in > Lancaster> County warrants.> > 2. 1756-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a > single man in> 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the case, > Samuel would> have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County Archives and Records > Service (CCAR) West> Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a single man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 4. 1758-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 6. 1762-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of > > James> Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA, > October 21, 1762> (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 7. 1763-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 8. 1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester County, > PA, on 100> acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 9. 1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and > 1772. (courtesy> Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 10. 1771- John Kinkead died. Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife > Mary, left> the farm to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, > James. Also left> sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from > Archibald White in> Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered).> > 12. 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William > Gray's> company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn > until 1810> (York Co. Archives York Pa.)> > 13. 1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16, > five males> under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel Kincaid's 7 sons were > still at home> in 1790, if all males listed were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa)> > 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR)> > 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs > and left> Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. Details of will described in 5th > generation of> this vetting.> > 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. "Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in > Fawn Township in> the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, > of land> originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st > month 1771> for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander > McCanless> (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th > day of June> 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at > the request> of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for > confirmation.> Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, > Barrens, Thomas> Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, > Harrisburg."> (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office > ,COPIEDSURVEYS,> 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.)> > 17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 > perches July> 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn > Township York> County Pa.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, > PATENT INDEX,> H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent > Book Vol 9, pg> 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > > > 7th Generation> > John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in > Sadsbury Township,> Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?.> > Son of unknown parents.> > Proven by:> > 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in Chester County until 1728, when John > Kinkead and> James were taxed as married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were > over 21,> they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this time, > but other> information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely place (courtesy of Norman > Kincaid)> > 2..John and James Kinkead taxed in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and > 1737.> (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide)> > 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of land on February 4, 1734 > and James> received warrant for 150 acres on February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 4.James Kinkead, brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County > Tax lists after> 1737.> > 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr., Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead > (carpenter) and Robert> Kinkead (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd's salary at Upper Octorara > Presbyterian> Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> > 7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in > 1756; this> indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> > 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, > 1771, and 1772,> but not after 1772. West Caln Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of > land adjacent> to John Kinkead's land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of > Chester County,> PA, p. 168)> > 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the administration of the estate of Andrew > Kinkead> (deceased) in 1769. Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County > Donegal, Ireland,> but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the ship > JUPITER,> docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable estate. Samuel was > nearest of kin to> Andrew Kinkead but was unable to undertake administration of Andrew's estate > > and> renounced it in favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book > H, p. 86,> File 1652)> > 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane, County Tyrone in > Ireland in> 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765. James's relationship to John Kinkead > and family> is not known, but it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead's > youngest son,> James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, "James Kinkead, clock and > watchmaker> of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury Township. Chester County, > Pennsylvania, now> follows his business at Emmanuel Rouse's Clock and Watchmaker in Front > Street near the> drawbridge, Philadelphia." (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765)> > 11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead's will. (Will > written> November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs documented therein were: > wife, Mary, sons> John, David, Samuel, Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope > (married to John> Kinkead's daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril > (married to John> Kinkead's daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford (married ?). 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While not the expert on this issue, and just trying to muddy the waters as it were: I propose that the Miami Bottom might refer to a low lying area between the Greater Miami River and the Little Miami River in Montgomery Co. OH. The Great Black Swamp didn't go that far south in OH. Michael Clegg >>> p2rogers@msn.com 10/22/2008 11:39 AM >>> You may want to check Google/Yahoo about The Great Black Swamp that may have included Miami County, OH. I recently saw a program on PBS regarding an area of NW Ohio and into Indiana.> From: Utahn1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:55:49 -0400> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid> > Norman, Why does he say that they escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have > any clue as to what might have been going on there at that time?> > Ruth Cherecwich> > > In a message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes:> > Here is some more information on Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the > possession of Charles (Chuck) Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid.> > Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th, 1861> > Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native neighborhood, for a > good while; but I have thought about you very often. I suppose you do not > practice penmanship extensively of late but I think Ewing & others might keep > me posted in the vicissitudes of your vicinity.> > I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be very thankful for > the health with which we have been blessed, during eight years that have passed > since we escaped from the Miami Bottom. Rebecca continues weakly, however. > I have spent another 6 months term in the school room during which I earned > $220.00. I am ready to be a farmer again, when the weather becomes > favorable. We have our little property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few > days ago. Thomas taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at > home at present. . .> > Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860:> > Montgomery County> > 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher, value > $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery > County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 1.7> 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, house work, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 James. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I can provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 > Census:> > Miami County> > 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value > $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. > USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Mary A.. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> > I believe he is the son of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here:> > Clinton County> > 1850 Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton > County, OH. USFC, p. > Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921] (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, > York County, PA.> 1850 Deborah Kinkade, age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, > OH. USFC, p..> 1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. > USFC, p.> > Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County, PA.> > 1800 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County, PA for > 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation 75, 4 cows, > Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, > York County, PA Archives.> > Here are Samuel Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801> > 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for > 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675, 2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, > rate 12, valuation 36, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA Archives.> 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA as a > single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA > Archives.> > Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel Jr. taxed as a married man..> > 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA > for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation 1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 > cows, rate 12, valuation 48, amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA Archives.> 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 2 > horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12, valuation 24, amount 94, tax > 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives.> > Chuck also has in his possesion letters written by Lewis Kincaid to his > cousin John McGlaughlin in York County, PA.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I do hope some of you will look over this post.> > Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I am a > bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I have > particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to James/Barbara Kendall. > The 1850 census does not give relationship and the age of 30 is off by 4 > years for a James born 1816. It isn't unusual for ages to be off but as this > is the only firm linkage to Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs > in this section more rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do > you have anything else that would help show that this is the same James as > in 1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the > next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810 > census for James as it looks like a single family given the female ages. If > just the males were there it would fit better with a couple of bachelor > brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the beginnings of the > James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James Kincaids in Baltimore in > 1820 or just the one?> > It looks like the James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of > > Samuel as they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that > shows that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? > Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he > disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would > bolster the connection.> > James R Kincaid took his son to visit friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the > Fawn Township that Samuel lived in? I don't know the geography of this > region so don't know if you are talking about the same Fawn and don't know > where Bryansville-Delta region is.> > Sue Liedtke> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net>> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury > Township> > > > > Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set 1b) track to John Kinkead of > Sadsbury> Township.> > > > 1st Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930> > Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller> > Proven by:> > 1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles > Vernon> Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid> > 2. Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they > acknowledged me as their> son and/or nephew> > > > 2nd Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died > December 2,> 1950.> > Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer> > Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths, and marriages of > Kincaid/Baer family> from 1855 onward. Charles's birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my > possession.> > 2. 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the > Frank Kincaid> family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age 44; Delphine, wife, > age 45;> Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age 14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie > A, daughter> age 9 and Carroll L, son age 6, Also lists Frank's mother being born in > England. This is> accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The > census also> lists all family members being born in MD except for Delphine who was born > in Delta PA,> and George and Sophie who were born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn)> > 3. Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, > MD, on> September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my > possession.> > 4. Life knowledge: I knew my father's sister and two brothers and they > acknowledged him> as their sibling> > 5. Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles's numerous accomplishments and > civic works over> the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois > Kincaid as his> wife> > 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and > death dates as> above.> > > > 3rd Generation:> > Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25, 1856, Died February > 22, 1908> > Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave> > Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid > family from> 1855 onward. Frank's birthday given as January 25, 1856> > 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706, lists Frank as one of three > children of> James R. Kincaid , age 40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living > in Baltimore,> MD, 18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter > Clara age 7; son> Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid misspelled as Kincaide.> > 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank W. Kincaid as a son of James R. > Kincaid> family living at 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of > Baltimore> Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 4. Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of > Bryansville,> York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in > Bryansville,> PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D... Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara > V. > Kincaid> (Frank's sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files.> > 5. Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with > birth and death> dates as above> > 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. > Kincaid and> plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. > (who died May> 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) > along with> Frank's unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie's son, James Wallace > who died age> 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Clipping also lists Frank's surviving children as: > Charles V.> George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L.> > 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, > January 13, 1881.> In my possession...> > > > 4th Generation> > James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, > 1887> > Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall> > Proven by:> > 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) > Kingcade> (James Kincaid's widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running a > boarding> house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD> > 2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an > elderly couple,> circa 1885, in my possession> > 3. Gravestone in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid'> s > date of> birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, > age 75, died> February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, but one > is noted as> "child of James R. Kincaid" (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. > Baltimore, Md)> > 4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living > at various> residences in Baltimore during these years. Baltimore City Directories file, > > Maryland> Historical Society, Baltimore Md)> > 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James > Kincaid and> Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md.> > 6. Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. > Kincaid's> birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887 (Certified > Copy, Baltimore> City Health Department, Certificate of Death)> > > > 5th Generation> > James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832> > Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness ?, and 2) Nancy ?> > Proven by:> > 1. James Kincaid was listed in the Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel > Kincaid of Fawn,> as one of Samuel's eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, > sons John,> James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and daughters Margaret > Vance, Jenny> McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McLeary (dec'd). Also > mentioned as an> heir was Samuel's grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York > County Heritage> Trust files, York, PA)> > 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, > York County,> PA, as a single man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, > > PA,> archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us with an > approximate> birth year of 1776.> > 3. James Kincaid arrived in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. > Baltimore City> Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153 High > St.,> Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore, MD)> > 4. James Kincaid is listed in the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this > brother David> Kincaid at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David's occupation was given as > drayman. David> listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807.(Baltimore City > Directories> file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid living in Wards 2-6, > Baltimore, one> male 26-45, one male 16-25, one female over 45, one female 16-25, two > females under 10.> (USFC, pg 268)> > 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and brother Wallace > Kincaid as> grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. Wallace remained at that address > with James until> 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, > MD)> > 7. U. S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore > City. One male> 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60, one female 20-30, > one female> 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female 5-10. (USFC, pg. 189)> > 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st > Methodist> Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George > Roberts.> (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society > records, Baltimore,> MD)> > 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of > September 15,> 1832, "James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on > September> 7."(Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore, Md)> James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in Baltimore. He and > his wife> Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old > North Burial> ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of > Baltimore. James was> reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. > (Personal Visit to> Greenmount Cemetery)> > 10. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often > visited the Fawn> Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn > with his> father, Frank W.. Kincaid, who in turn had gone every summer with his father > James R..> Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the "old> neighborhood." That is why my father took me there.> > > > 6th Generation> > Samuel Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn > Township,> York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ?> > Proven by:> > 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land > in Fawn> Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, > Records of the> Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with "M"). > This > warrant was> filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in > Lancaster> County warrants.> > 2. 1756-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a > single man in> 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the case, > Samuel would> have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County Archives and Records > Service (CCAR) West> Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a single man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 4. 1758-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 6. 1762-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of > > James> Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA, > October 21, 1762> (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 7. 1763-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 8. 1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester County, > PA, on 100> acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 9. 1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and > 1772. (courtesy> Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 10. 1771- John Kinkead died. Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife > Mary, left> the farm to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, > James. Also left> sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from > Archibald White in> Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered).> > 12. 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William > Gray's> company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn > until 1810> (York Co. Archives York Pa.)> > 13. 1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16, > five males> under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel Kincaid's 7 sons were > still at home> in 1790, if all males listed were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa)> > 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR)> > 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs > and left> Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. Details of will described in 5th > generation of> this vetting.> > 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. "Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in > Fawn Township in> the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, > of land> originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st > month 1771> for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander > McCanless> (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th > day of June> 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at > the request> of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for > confirmation.> Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, > Barrens, Thomas> Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, > Harrisburg."> (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office > ,COPIEDSURVEYS,> 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.)> > 17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 > perches July> 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn > Township York> County Pa.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, > PATENT INDEX,> H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent > Book Vol 9, pg> 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > > > 7th Generation> > John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in > Sadsbury Township,> Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?.> > Son of unknown parents.> > Proven by:> > 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in Chester County until 1728, when John > Kinkead and> James were taxed as married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were > over 21,> they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this time, > but other> information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely place (courtesy of Norman > Kincaid)> > 2..John and James Kinkead taxed in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and > 1737.> (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide)> > 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of land on February 4, 1734 > and James> received warrant for 150 acres on February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 4.James Kinkead, brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County > Tax lists after> 1737.> > 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr., Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead > (carpenter) and Robert> Kinkead (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd's salary at Upper Octorara > Presbyterian> Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> > 7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in > 1756; this> indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> > 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, > 1771, and 1772,> but not after 1772. West Caln Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of > land adjacent> to John Kinkead's land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of > Chester County,> PA, p. 168)> > 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the administration of the estate of Andrew > Kinkead> (deceased) in 1769. Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County > Donegal, Ireland,> but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the ship > JUPITER,> docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable estate. Samuel was > nearest of kin to> Andrew Kinkead but was unable to undertake administration of Andrew's estate > > and> renounced it in favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book > H, p. 86,> File 1652)> > 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane, County Tyrone in > Ireland in> 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765. James's relationship to John Kinkead > and family> is not known, but it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead's > youngest son,> James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, "James Kinkead, clock and > watchmaker> of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury Township. Chester County, > Pennsylvania, now> follows his business at Emmanuel Rouse's Clock and Watchmaker in Front > Street near the> drawbridge, Philadelphia." (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765)> > 11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead's will. (Will > written> November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs documented therein were: > wife, Mary, sons> John, David, Samuel, Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope > (married to John> Kinkead's daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril > (married to John> Kinkead's daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford (married ?). 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Along this line, while organizing papers in my house I came across the inventory for Samuel Kincaid's estate, filed Nov. 7, 1810.  Here are a few items of interest from that inventory: A Bible with prayer book The Pilgrims Progress The Fulfilling of the Scriptures The Gospel Sonnets Walker's Sermons The Confession of Faith The Scots Government The Crisis 5 hogs A weavers loom 9 sheep 1 apple mill Hay in the barn and stack 6 bushels of rye 1 cow called Cherry 1 red heifer 1 cow called Starry 1 white heifer 1 cow called Stately 1 yearling heifer 1 red calf 1 black mare 1 log chain 1 saddle a lot of hoes a lot of horse gears a woman's saddle a coffy pot & funnel 6 sickles 1 gun a lot of earthen ware a grindstone This was undertaken by William Anderson and Robert Torbet Signed by Agnes (her mark) Kincaid and Joseph Kincaid Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:18:49 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid Here is a link to a map of Bethel Township, Miami County, OH, where the Miami River cuts into the township as it winds its way through Miami County. http://www.miamicountyoh.org/bethel.html Here is Lewis Kincaid's family in 1850 Miami County 1850 Lewis  Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:08:11 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid Chuck sent me a copy of both letters he has that Lewis Kincaid had written to James McLaughlin. When I asked Chuck about the Miami Bottom he replied "I believe the Miami Bottom Lewis refers to is an area of rich farming land in Ohio that is subject to periodic flooding, hence supposedly good soil -  as you suspected." With Chuck's approval we will post the full content of both letters. They are very interesting and give a feel for life back then. One letter even has the envelope it was mailed in. Don   ----- Original Message -----   From: Michael Clegg   To: p2rogers@msn.com ; kincaid@rootsweb.com   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:58 AM   Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid   While not the expert on this issue, and just trying to muddy the waters   as it were: I propose that the Miami Bottom might refer to a low lying   area between the Greater Miami River and the Little Miami River in   Montgomery Co. OH. The  Great Black Swamp didn't go that far south in   OH.   Michael Clegg   >>> p2rogers@msn.com 10/22/2008 11:39 AM >>>   You may want to check Google/Yahoo about The Great Black Swamp that may   have included Miami County, OH.  I recently saw a program on PBS   regarding an area of NW Ohio and into Indiana.> From: Utahn1@aol.com>   Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:55:49 -0400> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com>   Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid> > Norman, Why does he say that they   escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have > any clue as to what might   have been going on there at that time?> > Ruth Cherecwich> > > In a   message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >   norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes:> > Here is some more information on   Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the > possession of Charles (Chuck)   Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid.> > Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th,   1861> > Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native   neighborhood, for a > good while; but I have thought about you very   often. I suppose you do not > practice penmanship extensively of late   but I think Ewing & others might keep > me posted in the vicissitudes of   your vicinity.> > I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be   very thankful for > the health with which we have been blessed, during   eight years that have passed > since we escaped from the Miami Bottom.   Rebecca continues weakly, however. > I have spent another 6 months term   in the school room during which I earned > $220.00. I am ready to be a   farmer again, when the weather becomes > favorable. We have our little   property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few > days ago. Thomas   taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at > home at   present. . .> > Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860:> > Montgomery   County> > 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher,   value > $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH.   USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township,   Montgomery > County, OH. USFC, p. 17..> 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921]   age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   1.7> 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson   Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Samuel Kincaid,   [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery   County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born   IN, house work, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   17.> 1860 James. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer,   Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> > Sincerely>   Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Norman   Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent:   Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting   Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I can   provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 >   Census:> > Miami County> > 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA,   school teacher, value > $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH.   USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township,   Miami County, OH. > USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age   14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850   Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami >   County, OH. USFC, p.. 117.> 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born   IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Mary A..   Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH.   USFC, p. 117.> 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel   Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> > I believe he is the son   of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here:> > Clinton County> > 1850   Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton >   County, OH. USFC, p. > Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921]   (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, > York County, PA.> 1850 Deborah Kinkade,   age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, > OH. USFC, p..>   1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County,   OH. > USFC, p.> > Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County,   PA..> > 1800 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County,   PA for > 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation   75, 4 cows, > Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County   Tax Record Roll 5236, > York County, PA Archives.> > Here are Samuel   Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801> > 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in   Fawn Township, York County, PA for > 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675,   2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, > rate 12, valuation 36, amount   459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA   Archives.> 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York   County, PA as a > single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236,   York County, PA > Archives.> > Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel   Jr. taxed as a married man..> > 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed   in Fawn Township, York County, PA > for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation   1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 > cows, rate 12, valuation 48,   amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County,   PA Archives.> 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York   County, PA for 2 > horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12,   valuation 24, amount 94, tax > 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236,   York County, PA Archives.> > Chuck also has in his possesion letters   written by Lewis Kincaid to his > cousin John McGlaughlin in York   County, PA.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original   Message ----> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net>> To:   kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM>   Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid >   ofSadsbury Township> > I do hope some of you will look over this post.>   > Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I   am a > bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I   have > particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to   James/Barbara Kendall. > The 1850 census does not give relationship and   the age of 30 is off by 4 > years for a James born 1816. It isn't   unusual for ages to be off but as this > is the only firm linkage to   Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs > in this section more   rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave.. Do > you have   anything else that would help show that this is the same James as > in   1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the >   next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810   > census for James as it looks like a single family given the female   ages. If > just the males were there it would fit better with a couple   of bachelor > brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the   beginnings of the > James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James   Kincaids in Baltimore in > 1820 or just the one?> > It looks like the   James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of > > Samuel as   they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that > shows   that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? >   Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he >   disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would   > bolster the connection.> > James R Kincaid took his son to visit   friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the > Fawn Township that Samuel lived in?   I don't know the geography of this > region so don't know if you are   talking about the same Fawn and don't know > where Bryansville-Delta   region is.> > Sue Liedtke> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don   W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net>> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List"   <kincaid@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM>   Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid   ofSadsbury > Township> > > > > Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set   1b) track to John Kinkead of > Sadsbury> Township.> > > > 1st   Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930> > Son   of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller> > Proven by:> >   1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as   Charles > Vernon> Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid> > 2. Life   knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they > acknowledged   me as their> son and/or nephew> > > > 2nd Generation:> > Charles Vernon   Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died > December   2,> 1950.> > Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer> >   Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths, and   marriages of > Kincaid/Baer family> from 1855 onward. Charles's   birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my > possession.> > 2. 1900   Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the >   Frank Kincaid> family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age   44; Delphine, wife, > age 45;> Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age   14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie > A, daughter> age 9 and Carroll L,   son age 6, Also lists Frank's mother being born in > England. This is>   accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The   > census also> lists all family members being born in MD except for   Delphine who was born > in Delta PA,> and George and Sophie who were   born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn)> > 3. Marriage Certificate of   Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, > MD, on> September 12,   1926. Witnesses were Mr.. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my > possession.> >   4. Life knowledge: I knew my father's sister and two brothers and they   > acknowledged him> as their sibling> > 5. Baltimore Sun obituary   listing Charles's numerous accomplishments and > civic works over> the   past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois >   Kincaid as his> wife> > 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death,   Baltimore city lists birth and > death dates as> above.> > > > 3rd   Generation:> > Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25,   1856, Died February > 22, 1908> > Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave>   > Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths,   marriages of the Kincaid > family from> 1855 onward.. Frank's birthday   given as January 25, 1856> > 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p   706, lists Frank as one of three > children of> James R. Kincaid , age   40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living > in Baltimore,> MD,   18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter >   Clara age 7; son> Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid   misspelled as Kincaide.> > 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank   W. Kincaid as a son of James R. > Kincaid> family living at 653 W.   Baltimore St.. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of > Baltimore>   Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 4.   Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of   > Bryansville,> York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of   January, 1881, in > Bryansville,> PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D...   Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara > V. > Kincaid> (Frank's sister)   and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files.> > 5. Certified   Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with > birth and   death> dates as above> > 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper   announcing the death of Frank W. > Kincaid and> plans for burial in   Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. > (who died May>   16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove)   > along with> Frank's unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and   Dellie's son, James Wallace > who died age> 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904   Clipping also lists Frank's surviving children as: > Charles V.>   George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L.> > 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and   Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, > January 13, 1881.> In my   possession....> > > > 4th Generation> > James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore,   MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, > 1887> > Son of James Kincaid   and Barbara Kendall> > Proven by:> > 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850   Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) > Kingcade> (James   Kincaid's widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running   a > boarding> house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD> >   2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an >   elderly couple,> circa 1885, in my possession> > 3. Gravestone in Loudon   Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid'> s > date of>   birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave   Kincaid, > age 75, died> February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two   unnamed young children, but one > is noted as> "child of James R.   Kincaid" (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. > Baltimore, Md)> >   4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family   living > at various> residences in Baltimore during these years.   Baltimore City Directories file, > > Maryland> Historical Society,   Baltimore Md)> > 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued   (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James > Kincaid and> Anna Cave married   November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md.> > 6. Certificate of   Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. > Kincaid's>   birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887   (Certified > Copy, Baltimore> City Health Department, Certificate of   Death)> > > > 5th Generation> > James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA   abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832> > Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness   ?, and 2) Nancy ?> > Proven by:> > 1. James Kincaid was listed in the   Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel > Kincaid of Fawn,> as one of   Samuel's eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, >   sons John,> James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and   daughters Margaret > Vance, Jenny> McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his   daughter, Jean McLeary (dec'd). Also > mentioned as an> heir was   Samuel's grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York > County   Heritage> Trust files, York, PA)> > 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax   lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, > York County,> PA, as a single   man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, > > PA,>   archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us   with an > approximate> birth year of 1776.> > 3. James Kincaid arrived   in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. > Baltimore City>   Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153   High > St.,> Baltimore, MD.. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland   Historical Society, > Baltimore, MD)> > 4. James Kincaid is listed in   the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this > brother David> Kincaid at   153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David's occupation was given as >   drayman. David> listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and   1807.(Baltimore City > Directories> file, Maryland Historical Society,   Baltimore, MD)> > 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid   living in Wards 2-6, > Baltimore, one> male 26-45, one male 16-25, one   female over 45, one female 16-25, two > females under 10.> (USFC, pg   268)> > 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and   brother Wallace > Kincaid as> grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD.   Wallace remained at that address > with James until> 1819. (Baltimore   Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, > MD)> > 7. U.   S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore >   City. One male> 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60,   one female 20-30, > one female> 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female   5-10. (USFC, pg.. 189)> > 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married   Barbara Kendall at the 1st > Methodist> Episcopal Church, Light Street,   Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George > Roberts.> (1st Methodist   Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society > records,   Baltimore,> MD)> > 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore   American newspaper of > September 15,> 1832, "James Kincaid, long a   merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on > September> 7."(Diehlman   File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore,   Md)> James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in   Baltimore. He and > his wife> Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount   Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old > North Burial> ground was   disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of > Baltimore.   James was> reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid)   Sanders. > (Personal Visit to> Greenmount Cemetery)> > 10. My father,   Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often > visited the   Fawn> Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went   back to Fawn > with his> father, Frank W.. Kincaid, who in turn had gone   every summer with his father > James R..> Kincaid to visit friends   (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the "old> neighborhood."   That is why my father took me there.> > > > 6th Generation> > Samuel   Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn >   Township,> York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ?> > Proven   by:> > 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander   McCanless for land > in Fawn> Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.(   Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, > Records of the> Land Office,   WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with "M"). > This >   warrant was> filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and   thus is listed in > Lancaster> County warrants.> > 2. 1756-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a > single man   in> 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the   case, > Samuel would> have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County   Archives and Records > Service (CCAR) West> Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman   Kincaide)> > 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a   single man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 4. 1758-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman>   Kincaide. CCAR)> > 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a   married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 6. 1762-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of > > James>   Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA,   > October 21, 1762> (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 7. 1763-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 8.   1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester   County, > PA, on 100> acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 9.   1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and >   1772. (courtesy> Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 10. 1771- John Kinkead died.   Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife > Mary, left> the farm   to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, > James.   Also left> sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> >   11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from >   Archibald White in> Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered).> > 12.   1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William   > Gray's> company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid   taxed in Fawn > until 1810> (York Co. Archives York Pa.)> > 13..   1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16,   > five males> under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel   Kincaid's 7 sons were > still at home> in 1790, if all males listed   were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa)> > 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid   taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR)> > 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died   October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs > and left> Poplar   Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas.. Details of will described in 5th >   generation of> this vetting.> > 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter.   "Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in > Fawn Township in> the   county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance,   > of land> originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st   day of the 1st > month 1771> for Archibald White in pursuance of a   warrant which was granted to Alexander > McCanless> (Poplar Quarter)   bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th > day of   June> 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be   correct and at > the request> of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas   Kincaid, the same is returned for > confirmation.> Adjacent land owners:   Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, > Barrens, Thomas>   Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor   General, > Harrisburg."> (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records   of the Land Office > ,COPIEDSURVEYS,> 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.)> >   17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres,   61 > perches July> 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar   Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn > Township York> County Pa.( Pennsylvania   State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, > PATENT INDEX,> H   Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent   > Book Vol 9, pg> 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > > > 7th Generation>   > John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in   > Sadsbury Township,> Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?.> > Son of   unknown parents.> > Proven by:> > 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in   Chester County until 1728, when John > Kinkead and> James were taxed as   married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were > over 21,>   they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this   time, > but other> information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely   place (courtesy of Norman > Kincaid)> > 2..John and James Kinkead taxed   in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and > 1737.> (Courtesy of   Norman Kincaide)> > 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of   land on February 4, 1734 > and James> received warrant for 150 acres on   February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 4.James Kinkead,   brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County > Tax lists   after> 1737.> > 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752.   (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr.,   Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead > (carpenter) and Robert> Kinkead   (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd's salary at Upper Octorara >   Presbyterian> Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> >   7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in   > 1756; this> indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman   Kincaide )> > 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766,   1767, 1768, 1769, > 1771, and 1772,> but not after 1772. West Caln   Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of > land adjacent> to John   Kinkead's land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of >   Chester County,> PA, p. 168)> > 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the   administration of the estate of Andrew > Kinkead> (deceased) in 1769.   Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County > Donegal, Ireland,>   but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the   ship > JUPITER,> docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable   estate. Samuel was > nearest of kin to> Andrew Kinkead but was unable to   undertake administration of Andrew's estate > > and> renounced it in   favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book > H, p. 86,>   File 1652)> > 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane,   County Tyrone in > Ireland in> 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765.   James's relationship to John Kinkead > and family> is not known, but   it is probably very close.. He is not John Kinkead's > youngest son,>   James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, "James Kinkead,   clock and > watchmaker> of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury   Township. Chester County, > Pennsylvania, now> follows his business at   Emmanuel Rouse's Clock and Watchmaker in Front > Street near the>   drawbridge, Philadelphia." (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765)> >   11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead's will.   (Will > written> November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs   documented therein were: > wife, Mary, sons> John, David, Samuel,   Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope > (married to John>   Kinkead's daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril   > (married to John> Kinkead's daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford   (married ?). 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You may want to check Google/Yahoo about The Great Black Swamp that may have included Miami County, OH. I recently saw a program on PBS regarding an area of NW Ohio and into Indiana.> From: Utahn1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:55:49 -0400> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid> > Norman, Why does he say that they escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have > any clue as to what might have been going on there at that time?> > Ruth Cherecwich> > > In a message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes:> > Here is some more information on Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the > possession of Charles (Chuck) Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid.> > Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th, 1861> > Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native neighborhood, for a > good while; but I have thought about you very often. I suppose you do not > practice penmanship extensively of late but I think Ewing & others might keep > me posted in the vicissitudes of your vicinity.> > I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be very thankful for > the health with which we have been blessed, during eight years that have passed > since we escaped from the Miami Bottom. Rebecca continues weakly, however. > I have spent another 6 months term in the school room during which I earned > $220.00. I am ready to be a farmer again, when the weather becomes > favorable. We have our little property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few > days ago. Thomas taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at > home at present. . .> > Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860:> > Montgomery County> > 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher, value > $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery > County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 1.7> 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, house work, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 James. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I can provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 > Census:> > Miami County> > 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value > $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. > USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Mary A.. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> > I believe he is the son of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here:> > Clinton County> > 1850 Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton > County, OH. USFC, p. > Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921] (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, > York County, PA.> 1850 Deborah Kinkade, age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, > OH. USFC, p..> 1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. > USFC, p.> > Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County, PA.> > 1800 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County, PA for > 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation 75, 4 cows, > Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, > York County, PA Archives.> > Here are Samuel Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801> > 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for > 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675, 2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, > rate 12, valuation 36, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA Archives.> 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA as a > single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA > Archives.> > Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel Jr. taxed as a married man..> > 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA > for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation 1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 > cows, rate 12, valuation 48, amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA Archives.> 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 2 > horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12, valuation 24, amount 94, tax > 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives.> > Chuck also has in his possesion letters written by Lewis Kincaid to his > cousin John McGlaughlin in York County, PA.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I do hope some of you will look over this post.> > Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I am a > bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I have > particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to James/Barbara Kendall. > The 1850 census does not give relationship and the age of 30 is off by 4 > years for a James born 1816. It isn't unusual for ages to be off but as this > is the only firm linkage to Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs > in this section more rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do > you have anything else that would help show that this is the same James as > in 1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the > next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810 > census for James as it looks like a single family given the female ages. If > just the males were there it would fit better with a couple of bachelor > brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the beginnings of the > James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James Kincaids in Baltimore in > 1820 or just the one?> > It looks like the James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of > > Samuel as they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that > shows that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? > Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he > disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would > bolster the connection.> > James R Kincaid took his son to visit friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the > Fawn Township that Samuel lived in? I don't know the geography of this > region so don't know if you are talking about the same Fawn and don't know > where Bryansville-Delta region is.> > Sue Liedtke> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net>> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury > Township> > > > > Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set 1b) track to John Kinkead of > Sadsbury> Township.> > > > 1st Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930> > Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller> > Proven by:> > 1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles > Vernon> Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid> > 2. Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they > acknowledged me as their> son and/or nephew> > > > 2nd Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died > December 2,> 1950.> > Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer> > Proven by:> > 1. “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, and marriages of > Kincaid/Baer family> from 1855 onward. Charles’s birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my > possession.> > 2. 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the > Frank Kincaid> family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age 44; Delphine, wife, > age 45;> Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age 14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie > A, daughter> age 9 and Carroll L, son age 6, Also lists Frank’s mother being born in > England. This is> accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The > census also> lists all family members being born in MD except for Delphine who was born > in Delta PA,> and George and Sophie who were born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn)> > 3. Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, > MD, on> September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my > possession.> > 4. Life knowledge: I knew my father’s sister and two brothers and they > acknowledged him> as their sibling> > 5. Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles’s numerous accomplishments and > civic works over> the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois > Kincaid as his> wife> > 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and > death dates as> above.> > > > 3rd Generation:> > Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25, 1856, Died February > 22, 1908> > Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave> > Proven by:> > 1. “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid > family from> 1855 onward. Frank’s birthday given as January 25, 1856> > 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706, lists Frank as one of three > children of> James R. Kincaid , age 40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living > in Baltimore,> MD, 18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter > Clara age 7; son> Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid misspelled as Kincaide.> > 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank W. Kincaid as a son of James R. > Kincaid> family living at 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of > Baltimore> Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 4. Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of > Bryansville,> York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in > Bryansville,> PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D... Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara > V. > Kincaid> (Frank’s sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files.> > 5. Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with > birth and death> dates as above> > 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. > Kincaid and> plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. > (who died May> 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) > along with> Frank’s unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie’s son, James Wallace > who died age> 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Clipping also lists Frank’s surviving children as: > Charles V.> George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L.> > 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, > January 13, 1881.> In my possession...> > > > 4th Generation> > James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, > 1887> > Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall> > Proven by:> > 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) > Kingcade> (James Kincaid’s widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running a > boarding> house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD> > 2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an > elderly couple,> circa 1885, in my possession> > 3. Gravestone in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid’> s > date of> birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, > age 75, died> February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, but one > is noted as> “child of James R. Kincaid” (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. > Baltimore, Md)> > 4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living > at various> residences in Baltimore during these years. Baltimore City Directories file, > > Maryland> Historical Society, Baltimore Md)> > 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James > Kincaid and> Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md.> > 6. Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. > Kincaid’s> birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887 (Certified > Copy, Baltimore> City Health Department, Certificate of Death)> > > > 5th Generation> > James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832> > Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness ?, and 2) Nancy ?> > Proven by:> > 1. James Kincaid was listed in the Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel > Kincaid of Fawn,> as one of Samuel’s eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, > sons John,> James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and daughters Margaret > Vance, Jenny> McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McLeary (dec’d). Also > mentioned as an> heir was Samuel’s grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York > County Heritage> Trust files, York, PA)> > 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, > York County,> PA, as a single man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, > > PA,> archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us with an > approximate> birth year of 1776.> > 3. James Kincaid arrived in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. > Baltimore City> Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153 High > St.,> Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore, MD)> > 4. James Kincaid is listed in the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this > brother David> Kincaid at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David’s occupation was given as > drayman. David> listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807.(Baltimore City > Directories> file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid living in Wards 2-6, > Baltimore, one> male 26-45, one male 16-25, one female over 45, one female 16-25, two > females under 10.> (USFC, pg 268)> > 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and brother Wallace > Kincaid as> grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. Wallace remained at that address > with James until> 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, > MD)> > 7. U. S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore > City. One male> 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60, one female 20-30, > one female> 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female 5-10. (USFC, pg. 189)> > 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st > Methodist> Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George > Roberts.> (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society > records, Baltimore,> MD)> > 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of > September 15,> 1832, “James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on > September> 7.”(Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore, Md)> James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in Baltimore. He and > his wife> Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old > North Burial> ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of > Baltimore. James was> reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. > (Personal Visit to> Greenmount Cemetery)> > 10. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often > visited the Fawn> Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn > with his> father, Frank W.. Kincaid, who in turn had gone every summer with his father > James R..> Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the “old> neighborhood.” That is why my father took me there.> > > > 6th Generation> > Samuel Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn > Township,> York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ?> > Proven by:> > 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land > in Fawn> Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, > Records of the> Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with “M”). > This > warrant was> filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in > Lancaster> County warrants.> > 2. 1756-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a > single man in> 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the case, > Samuel would> have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County Archives and Records > Service (CCAR) West> Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a single man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 4. 1758-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 6. 1762-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of > > James> Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA, > October 21, 1762> (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 7. 1763-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 8. 1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester County, > PA, on 100> acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 9. 1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and > 1772. (courtesy> Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 10. 1771- John Kinkead died. Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife > Mary, left> the farm to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, > James. Also left> sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from > Archibald White in> Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered).> > 12. 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William > Gray’s> company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn > until 1810> (York Co. Archives York Pa.)> > 13. 1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16, > five males> under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel Kincaid’s 7 sons were > still at home> in 1790, if all males listed were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa)> > 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR)> > 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs > and left> Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. Details of will described in 5th > generation of> this vetting.> > 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. “Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in > Fawn Township in> the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, > of land> originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st > month 1771> for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander > McCanless> (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th > day of June> 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at > the request> of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for > confirmation.> Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, > Barrens, Thomas> Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, > Harrisburg.”> (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office > ,COPIEDSURVEYS,> 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.)> > 17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 > perches July> 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn > Township York> County Pa.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, > PATENT INDEX,> H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent > Book Vol 9, pg> 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > > > 7th Generation> > John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in > Sadsbury Township,> Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?.> > Son of unknown parents.> > Proven by:> > 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in Chester County until 1728, when John > Kinkead and> James were taxed as married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were > over 21,> they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this time, > but other> information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely place (courtesy of Norman > Kincaid)> > 2..John and James Kinkead taxed in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and > 1737.> (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide)> > 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of land on February 4, 1734 > and James> received warrant for 150 acres on February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 4.James Kinkead, brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County > Tax lists after> 1737.> > 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr., Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead > (carpenter) and Robert> Kinkead (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd’s salary at Upper Octorara > Presbyterian> Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> > 7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in > 1756; this> indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> > 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, > 1771, and 1772,> but not after 1772. West Caln Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of > land adjacent> to John Kinkead’s land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of > Chester County,> PA, p. 168)> > 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the administration of the estate of Andrew > Kinkead> (deceased) in 1769. Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County > Donegal, Ireland,> but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the ship > JUPITER,> docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable estate. Samuel was > nearest of kin to> Andrew Kinkead but was unable to undertake administration of Andrew’s estate > > and> renounced it in favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book > H, p. 86,> File 1652)> > 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane, County Tyrone in > Ireland in> 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765. James’s relationship to John Kinkead > and family> is not known, but it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead’s > youngest son,> James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, “James Kinkead, clock and > watchmaker> of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury Township. Chester County, > Pennsylvania, now> follows his business at Emmanuel Rouse’s Clock and Watchmaker in Front > Street near the> drawbridge, Philadelphia.” (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765)> > 11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead’s will. (Will > written> November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs documented therein were: > wife, Mary, sons> John, David, Samuel, Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope > (married to John> Kinkead’s daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril > (married to John> Kinkead’s daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford (married ?). 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Here is a link to a map of Bethel Township, Miami County, OH, where the Miami River cuts into the township as it winds its way through Miami County. http://www.miamicountyoh.org/bethel.html Here is Lewis Kincaid's family in 1850 Miami County 1850 Lewis  Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid1@frontiernet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:08:11 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid Chuck sent me a copy of both letters he has that Lewis Kincaid had written to James McLaughlin. When I asked Chuck about the Miami Bottom he replied "I believe the Miami Bottom Lewis refers to is an area of rich farming land in Ohio that is subject to periodic flooding, hence supposedly good soil -  as you suspected." With Chuck's approval we will post the full content of both letters. They are very interesting and give a feel for life back then. One letter even has the envelope it was mailed in. Don   ----- Original Message -----   From: Michael Clegg   To: p2rogers@msn.com ; kincaid@rootsweb.com   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:58 AM   Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid   While not the expert on this issue, and just trying to muddy the waters   as it were: I propose that the Miami Bottom might refer to a low lying   area between the Greater Miami River and the Little Miami River in   Montgomery Co. OH. The  Great Black Swamp didn't go that far south in   OH.   Michael Clegg   >>> p2rogers@msn.com 10/22/2008 11:39 AM >>>   You may want to check Google/Yahoo about The Great Black Swamp that may   have included Miami County, OH.  I recently saw a program on PBS   regarding an area of NW Ohio and into Indiana.> From: Utahn1@aol.com>   Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:55:49 -0400> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com>   Subject: [KINCAID] Lewis Kincaid> > Norman, Why does he say that they   escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have > any clue as to what might   have been going on there at that time?> > Ruth Cherecwich> > > In a   message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >   norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes:> > Here is some more information on   Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the > possession of Charles (Chuck)   Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid.> > Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th,   1861> > Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native   neighborhood, for a > good while; but I have thought about you very   often. I suppose you do not > practice penmanship extensively of late   but I think Ewing & others might keep > me posted in the vicissitudes of   your vicinity.> > I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be   very thankful for > the health with which we have been blessed, during   eight years that have passed > since we escaped from the Miami Bottom.   Rebecca continues weakly, however. > I have spent another 6 months term   in the school room during which I earned > $220.00. I am ready to be a   farmer again, when the weather becomes > favorable. We have our little   property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few > days ago. Thomas   taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at > home at   present. . .> > Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860:> > Montgomery   County> > 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher,   value > $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH.   USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township,   Montgomery > County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921]   age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   1.7> 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson   Township, > Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Samuel Kincaid,   [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, > Montgomery   County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born   IN, house work, Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p.   17.> 1860 James. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer,   Jefferson > Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17.> > Sincerely>   Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Norman   Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com>> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent:   Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting   Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid > ofSadsbury Township> > I can   provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 >   Census:> > Miami County> > 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA,   school teacher, value > $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH.   USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township,   Miami County, OH. > USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age   14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850   Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami >   County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born   IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> 1850 Mary A..   Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami > County, OH.   USFC, p. 117.> 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel   Township, Miami > County, OH. USFC, p. 117.> > I believe he is the son   of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here:> > Clinton County> > 1850   Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton >   County, OH. USFC, p. > Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921]   (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, > York County, PA.> 1850 Deborah Kinkade,   age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, > OH. USFC, p..>   1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County,   OH. > USFC, p.> > Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County,   PA.> > 1800 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County,   PA for > 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation   75, 4 cows, > Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County   Tax Record Roll 5236, > York County, PA Archives.> > Here are Samuel   Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801> > 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in   Fawn Township, York County, PA for > 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675,   2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, > rate 12, valuation 36, amount   459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County, PA   Archives.> 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York   County, PA as a > single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236,   York County, PA > Archives.> > Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel   Jr. taxed as a married man..> > 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed   in Fawn Township, York County, PA > for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation   1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 > cows, rate 12, valuation 48,   amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll > 5236, York County,   PA Archives.> 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York   County, PA for 2 > horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12,   valuation 24, amount 94, tax > 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236,   York County, PA Archives.> > Chuck also has in his possesion letters   written by Lewis Kincaid to his > cousin John McGlaughlin in York   County, PA.> > Sincerely> Norman Kincaide> > > > > ----- Original   Message ----> From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net>> To:   kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM>   Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid >   ofSadsbury Township> > I do hope some of you will look over this post.>   > Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I   am a > bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I   have > particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to   James/Barbara Kendall. > The 1850 census does not give relationship and   the age of 30 is off by 4 > years for a James born 1816. It isn't   unusual for ages to be off but as this > is the only firm linkage to   Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs > in this section more   rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do > you have   anything else that would help show that this is the same James as > in   1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the >   next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810   > census for James as it looks like a single family given the female   ages. If > just the males were there it would fit better with a couple   of bachelor > brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the   beginnings of the > James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James   Kincaids in Baltimore in > 1820 or just the one?> > It looks like the   James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of > > Samuel as   they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that > shows   that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? >   Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he >   disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would   > bolster the connection.> > James R Kincaid took his son to visit   friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the > Fawn Township that Samuel lived in?   I don't know the geography of this > region so don't know if you are   talking about the same Fawn and don't know > where Bryansville-Delta   region is.> > Sue Liedtke> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don   W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net>> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List"   <kincaid@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM>   Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid   ofSadsbury > Township> > > > > Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set   1b) track to John Kinkead of > Sadsbury> Township.> > > > 1st   Generation:> > Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930> > Son   of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller> > Proven by:> >   1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as   Charles > Vernon> Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid> > 2. Life   knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they > acknowledged   me as their> son and/or nephew> > > > 2nd Generation:> > Charles Vernon   Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died > December   2,> 1950.> > Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer> >   Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths, and   marriages of > Kincaid/Baer family> from 1855 onward. Charles's   birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my > possession.> > 2. 1900   Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the >   Frank Kincaid> family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age   44; Delphine, wife, > age 45;> Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age   14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie > A, daughter> age 9 and Carroll L,   son age 6, Also lists Frank's mother being born in > England. This is>   accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The   > census also> lists all family members being born in MD except for   Delphine who was born > in Delta PA,> and George and Sophie who were   born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn)> > 3. Marriage Certificate of   Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, > MD, on> September 12,   1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my > possession.> >   4. Life knowledge: I knew my father's sister and two brothers and they   > acknowledged him> as their sibling> > 5. Baltimore Sun obituary   listing Charles's numerous accomplishments and > civic works over> the   past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois >   Kincaid as his> wife> > 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death,   Baltimore city lists birth and > death dates as> above.> > > > 3rd   Generation:> > Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25,   1856, Died February > 22, 1908> > Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave>   > Proven by:> > 1. "Kincaid Family Bible" listing births, deaths,   marriages of the Kincaid > family from> 1855 onward.. Frank's birthday   given as January 25, 1856> > 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p   706, lists Frank as one of three > children of> James R. Kincaid , age   40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living > in Baltimore,> MD,   18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter >   Clara age 7; son> Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid   misspelled as Kincaide.> > 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank   W. Kincaid as a son of James R. > Kincaid> family living at 653 W.   Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of > Baltimore>   Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD)> > 4.   Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of   > Bryansville,> York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of   January, 1881, in > Bryansville,> PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D...   Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara > V. > Kincaid> (Frank's sister)   and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files.> > 5. Certified   Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with > birth and   death> dates as above> > 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper   announcing the death of Frank W. > Kincaid and> plans for burial in   Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. > (who died May>   16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove)   > along with> Frank's unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and   Dellie's son, James Wallace > who died age> 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904   Clipping also lists Frank's surviving children as: > Charles V.>   George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L.> > 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and   Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, > January 13, 1881.> In my   possession...> > > > 4th Generation> > James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore,   MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, > 1887> > Son of James Kincaid   and Barbara Kendall> > Proven by:> > 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850   Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) > Kingcade> (James   Kincaid's widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running   a > boarding> house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD> >   2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an >   elderly couple,> circa 1885, in my possession> > 3. Gravestone in Loudon   Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid'> s > date of>   birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave   Kincaid, > age 75, died> February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two   unnamed young children, but one > is noted as> "child of James R.   Kincaid" (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. > Baltimore, Md)> >   4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family   living > at various> residences in Baltimore during these years.   Baltimore City Directories file, > > Maryland> Historical Society,   Baltimore Md)> > 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued   (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James > Kincaid and> Anna Cave married   November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md.> > 6. Certificate of   Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. > Kincaid's>   birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887   (Certified > Copy, Baltimore> City Health Department, Certificate of   Death)> > > > 5th Generation> > James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA   abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832> > Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness   ?, and 2) Nancy ?> > Proven by:> > 1. James Kincaid was listed in the   Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel > Kincaid of Fawn,> as one of   Samuel's eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, >   sons John,> James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and   daughters Margaret > Vance, Jenny> McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his   daughter, Jean McLeary (dec'd). Also > mentioned as an> heir was   Samuel's grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York > County   Heritage> Trust files, York, PA)> > 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax   lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, > York County,> PA, as a single   man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, > > PA,>   archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us   with an > approximate> birth year of 1776.> > 3. James Kincaid arrived   in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. > Baltimore City>   Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153   High > St.,> Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland   Historical Society, > Baltimore, MD)> > 4. James Kincaid is listed in   the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this > brother David> Kincaid at   153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David's occupation was given as >   drayman. David> listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and   1807.(Baltimore City > Directories> file, Maryland Historical Society,   Baltimore, MD)> > 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid   living in Wards 2-6, > Baltimore, one> male 26-45, one male 16-25, one   female over 45, one female 16-25, two > females under 10.> (USFC, pg   268)> > 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and   brother Wallace > Kincaid as> grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD.   Wallace remained at that address > with James until> 1819. (Baltimore   Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, > MD)> > 7. U.   S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore >   City. One male> 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60,   one female 20-30, > one female> 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female   5-10. (USFC, pg. 189)> > 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married   Barbara Kendall at the 1st > Methodist> Episcopal Church, Light Street,   Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George > Roberts.> (1st Methodist   Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society > records,   Baltimore,> MD)> > 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore   American newspaper of > September 15,> 1832, "James Kincaid, long a   merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on > September> 7."(Diehlman   File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, > Baltimore,   Md)> James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in   Baltimore. He and > his wife> Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount   Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old > North Burial> ground was   disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of > Baltimore.   James was> reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid)   Sanders. > (Personal Visit to> Greenmount Cemetery)> > 10. My father,   Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often > visited the   Fawn> Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went   back to Fawn > with his> father, Frank W.. Kincaid, who in turn had gone   every summer with his father > James R..> Kincaid to visit friends   (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the "old> neighborhood."   That is why my father took me there.> > > > 6th Generation> > Samuel   Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn >   Township,> York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ?> > Proven   by:> > 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander   McCanless for land > in Fawn> Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.(   Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, > Records of the> Land Office,   WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with "M"). > This >   warrant was> filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and   thus is listed in > Lancaster> County warrants.> > 2. 1756-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a > single man   in> 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the   case, > Samuel would> have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County   Archives and Records > Service (CCAR) West> Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman   Kincaide)> > 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a   single man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 4. 1758-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy > Norman>   Kincaide. CCAR)> > 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a   married man (courtesy > Norman> Kincaide. CCAR)> > 6. 1762-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of > > James>   Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA,   > October 21, 1762> (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 7. 1763-Samuel   Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 8.   1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester   County, > PA, on 100> acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 9.   1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and >   1772. (courtesy> Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> > 10. 1771- John Kinkead died.   Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife > Mary, left> the farm   to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, > James.   Also left> sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR)> >   11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from >   Archibald White in> Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered).> > 12.   1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William   > Gray's> company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid   taxed in Fawn > until 1810> (York Co. Archives York Pa.)> > 13.   1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16,   > five males> under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel   Kincaid's 7 sons were > still at home> in 1790, if all males listed   were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa)> > 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid   taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR)> > 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died   October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs > and left> Poplar   Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas.. Details of will described in 5th >   generation of> this vetting.> > 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter.   "Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in > Fawn Township in> the   county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance,   > of land> originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st   day of the 1st > month 1771> for Archibald White in pursuance of a   warrant which was granted to Alexander > McCanless> (Poplar Quarter)   bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th > day of   June> 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be   correct and at > the request> of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas   Kincaid, the same is returned for > confirmation.> Adjacent land owners:   Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, > Barrens, Thomas>   Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor   General, > Harrisburg."> (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records   of the Land Office > ,COPIEDSURVEYS,> 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.)> >   17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres,   61 > perches July> 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar   Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn > Township York> County Pa.( Pennsylvania   State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, > PATENT INDEX,> H   Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent   > Book Vol 9, pg> 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide)> > > > 7th Generation>   > John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in   > Sadsbury Township,> Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?.> > Son of   unknown parents.> > Proven by:> > 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in   Chester County until 1728, when John > Kinkead and> James were taxed as   married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were > over 21,>   they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this   time, > but other> information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely   place (courtesy of Norman > Kincaid)> > 2..John and James Kinkead taxed   in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and > 1737.> (Courtesy of   Norman Kincaide)> > 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of   land on February 4, 1734 > and James> received warrant for 150 acres on   February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 4.James Kinkead,   brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County > Tax lists   after> 1737.> > 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752.   (Courtesy of Norman > Kincaide)> > 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr.,   Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead > (carpenter) and Robert> Kinkead   (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd's salary at Upper Octorara >   Presbyterian> Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide )> >   7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in   > 1756; this> indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman   Kincaide )> > 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766,   1767, 1768, 1769, > 1771, and 1772,> but not after 1772. West Caln   Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of > land adjacent> to John   Kinkead's land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of >   Chester County,> PA, p. 168)> > 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the   administration of the estate of Andrew > Kinkead> (deceased) in 1769.   Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County > Donegal, Ireland,>   but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the   ship > JUPITER,> docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable   estate. Samuel was > nearest of kin to> Andrew Kinkead but was unable to   undertake administration of Andrew's estate > > and> renounced it in   favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book > H, p. 86,>   File 1652)> > 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane,   County Tyrone in > Ireland in> 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765.   James's relationship to John Kinkead > and family> is not known, but   it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead's > youngest son,>   James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, "James Kinkead,   clock and > watchmaker> of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury   Township. Chester County, > Pennsylvania, now> follows his business at   Emmanuel Rouse's Clock and Watchmaker in Front > Street near the>   drawbridge, Philadelphia." (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765)> >   11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead's will.   (Will > written> November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs   documented therein were: > wife, Mary, sons> John, David, Samuel,   Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope > (married to John>   Kinkead's daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril   > (married to John> Kinkead's daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford   (married ?). 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Norman, Why does he say that they escaped from the Miami Bottom? Do you have any clue as to what might have been going on there at that time? Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 10/21/2008 2:38:16 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, norman.kincaide@yahoo.com writes: Here is some more information on Lewis Kincaid from a letter in the possession of Charles (Chuck) Kincaid from Lewis Kincaid. Montgomery County, Ohio, March 11th, 1861 Dear old friends: I have not heard from you or my native neighborhood, for a good while; but I have thought about you very often. I suppose you do not practice penmanship extensively of late but I think Ewing & others might keep me posted in the vicissitudes of your vicinity. I have but little worth relating. We have reason to be very thankful for the health with which we have been blessed, during eight years that have passed since we escaped from the Miami Bottom. Rebecca continues weakly, however. I have spent another 6 months term in the school room during which I earned $220.00. I am ready to be a farmer again, when the weather becomes favorable. We have our little property clear now, I having lifted my last Note, few days ago. Thomas taught 6 1/2 months at $33 1/3 per month. We are all at home at present. . . Here is Lewis Kincaid's household in 1860: Montgomery County 1860 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 54, born PA, school teacher, value $1500.00, $375.00, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Rebecca Kincaid, age 54, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 22, born PA, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 1.7 1860 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 21, born PA, farmer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, farmer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 Mary A. Kincaid, [119921] age 20, born IN, house work, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. 1860 James. W. Kincaid, [119921] age 16, born OH, farm laborer, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County, OH. USFC, p. 17. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Norman Kincaide <norman.kincaide@yahoo.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:11:26 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township I can provide some information on Lewis Kincaid. Lewis is here in the 1850 Census: Miami County 1850 Lewis Kincaid, [119921] age 45, born PA, school teacher, value $300.00, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Rebecca Kincaid, age 43, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Margaret Kincaid, [119921] age 14, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Thomas Kincaid, [119921] age 13, born PA, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Samuel Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 Mary A.. Kincaid, [119921] age 11, born IN, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. 1850 James W. Kincaid, [119921] age 7, born OH, Bethel Township, Miami County, OH. USFC, p. 117. I believe he is the son of Samuel Kincaid, Jr. who I believe is here: Clinton County 1850 Samuel Kinkade, [119921] age 70, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p. Could be the son of Samuel Kinkead [119921] (1736-1810) of Fawn Township, York County, PA. 1850 Deborah Kinkade, age 64, born PA, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p.. 1850 Emma Wicoff, age 22, born OH, Richland Township, Clinton County, OH. USFC, p. Here is Samuel Kincaid taxed in 1800 in York County, PA. 1800 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Townhip, York County, PA for 180 acres, rate 2, valuation 360, 3 horses, rate 25, valuation 75, 4 cows, Rate 6, valuation 24, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Here are Samuel Kincaid and Samuel Jr. in 1801 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 150 acres, rate41/2, valuation 675, 2 horses, rate 45, valuation 90, 3 cows, rate 12, valuation 36, amount 459, tax 2.32. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. 1801 Samuel Kincaid [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA as a single man at $1.00. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Here they are in 1804 which shows Samuel Jr. taxed as a married man.. 1804 Samuel Kincade, Sr. [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 150 acres, rate 7, valuation 1050, 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 4 cows, rate 12, valuation 48, amount 1168, tax 3..04. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. 1804 Samuel Kincade [119921] taxed in Fawn Township, York County, PA for 2 horses, rate 35, valuation 70, 2 cows, rate 12, valuation 24, amount 94, tax 0.25. York County Tax Record Roll 5236, York County, PA Archives. Chuck also has in his possesion letters written by Lewis Kincaid to his cousin John McGlaughlin in York County, PA. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Sue Liedtke <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:26:36 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township I do hope some of you will look over this post. Chuck, I don't doubt that you have ample proof on the linkages but I am a bit confused in places and hope you can clear up some questions I have particularly concerning the linkage from James R.. to James/Barbara Kendall. The 1850 census does not give relationship and the age of 30 is off by 4 years for a James born 1816. It isn't unusual for ages to be off but as this is the only firm linkage to Barbara it is a problem. The rest of the proofs in this section more rightly belong in the section for James R/Anna Cave. Do you have anything else that would help show that this is the same James as in 1830? The 1812 marriage info on James and Barbara Kendall given in the next linkage helps but then I am confused as to who all were in the 1810 census for James as it looks like a single family given the female ages. If just the males were there it would fit better with a couple of bachelor brothers. Does the 1820 census shed any light on the beginnings of the James/Barbara Kendall family? Are there 2 James Kincaids in Baltimore in 1820 or just the one? It looks like the James on High St with David and then Wallace is the son of Samuel as they are also listed in Samuel's will. Is there anything that shows that the High St. James is the same one that married Barbara Kendall? Whose son was Lewis, the grandson mentioned in Samuel's will? Does he disappear or is there a connection that with others mentioned that would bolster the connection. James R Kincaid took his son to visit friends in Fawn Grove. Is this the Fawn Township that Samuel lived in? I don't know the geography of this region so don't know if you are talking about the same Fawn and don't know where Bryansville-Delta region is. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: "Kincaid Rootsweb List" <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:05 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Charles Vernon Kincaid to John Kincaid ofSadsbury Township Charles Vernon Kincaid (119921, Gp A Set 1b) track to John Kinkead of Sadsbury Township. 1st Generation: Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930 Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller Proven by: 1. Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles Vernon Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid 2. Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they acknowledged me as their son and/or nephew 2nd Generation: Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), Born Baltimore, MD, October 29, 1882 and died December 2, 1950. Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer Proven by: 1. “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, and marriages of Kincaid/Baer family from 1855 onward. Charles’s birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my possession. 2. 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city lists Charles as a member of the Frank Kincaid family. Members listed are: Frank Kincaid, husband, age 44; Delphine, wife, age 45; Charles V, son, age 17; James W, son, age 14; George C, son, age 12; Sophie A, daughter age 9 and Carroll L, son age 6, Also lists Frank’s mother being born in England. This is accurate since his mother, Annie Cave was, in fact, born in England. The census also lists all family members being born in MD except for Delphine who was born in Delta PA, and George and Sophie who were born in Bryansville PA, (near Fawn) 3. Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, MD, on September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks... In my possession. 4. Life knowledge: I knew my father’s sister and two brothers and they acknowledged him as their sibling 5. Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles’s numerous accomplishments and civic works over the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois Kincaid as his wife 6. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and death dates as above. 3rd Generation: Frank Wallace Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, January 25, 1856, Died February 22, 1908 Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave Proven by: 1. “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid family from 1855 onward. Frank’s birthday given as January 25, 1856 2. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706, lists Frank as one of three children of James R. Kincaid , age 40, and wife Anna (erroneously spelled Emma) living in Baltimore, MD, 18th ward. Others listed in family were wife, Anna age 37; daughter Clara age 7; son Frank, age 4 and daughter Ida age 1. Kincaid misspelled as Kincaide. 3. Baltimore Directory for 1860 lists Frank W. Kincaid as a son of James R. Kincaid family living at 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, Md (Files of Baltimore Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 4. Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of Bryansville, York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in Bryansville, PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D... Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara V. Kincaid (Frank’s sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files. 5. Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with birth and death dates as above 6. Clipping saved from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. Kincaid and plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Frank W. and Mary D. (who died May 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) along with Frank’s unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie’s son, James Wallace who died age 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Clipping also lists Frank’s surviving children as: Charles V. George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L. 7. Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, January 13, 1881. In my possession... 4th Generation James R. Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, August 20, 1816; died November 21, 1887 Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall Proven by: 1. U. S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, lists Barbara (Barbay) Kingcade (James Kincaid’s widow) and with her son James R. Kincaid (age 30) running a boarding house with 18 boarders at 20 Pearl St., Baltimore, MD 2. Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an elderly couple, circa 1885, in my possession 3. Gravestone in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, gives James R. Kincaid’ s date of birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, age 75, died February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, but one is noted as “child of James R. Kincaid” (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. Baltimore, Md) 4. Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living at various residences in Baltimore during these years. Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore Md) 5. Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, lists James Kincaid and Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md. 6. Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. Kincaid’s birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887 (Certified Copy, Baltimore City Health Department, Certificate of Death) 5th Generation James Kincaid, Born Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; died September 7, 1832 Son of Samuel Kincaid and 1) Agness ?, and 2) Nancy ? Proven by: 1. James Kincaid was listed in the Sept. 1810 will of his father, Samuel Kincaid of Fawn, as one of Samuel’s eleven children, Family listed in will were: wife Nancy, sons John, James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas and daughters Margaret Vance, Jenny McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McLeary (dec’d). Also mentioned as an heir was Samuel’s grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York County Heritage Trust files, York, PA) 2. James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, York County, PA, as a single man in 1797. (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA, archives..) Thus, James must have been 21 years in 1797 providing us with an approximate birth year of 1776. 3. James Kincaid arrived in Baltimore in 1803 and lived at 133 High St. Baltimore City Directory of 1804 lists James Kincaid as a school teacher living at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 4. James Kincaid is listed in the 1804 Baltimore City Directory with this brother David Kincaid at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. David’s occupation was given as drayman. David listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807.(Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 5. U.S. Federal Census of 1810 lists James Kincaid living in Wards 2-6, Baltimore, one male 26-45, one male 16-25, one female over 45, one female 16-25, two females under 10. (USFC, pg 268) 6. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 shows James Kincaid and brother Wallace Kincaid as grocers at 153 High St., Baltimore, MD. Wallace remained at that address with James until 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) 7. U. S. Federal Census of 1830 shows James living in Ward 4 of Baltimore City. One male 50-60, one male 5-10, one male 10-15, one female 50-60, one female 20-30, one female 15-20, one female 10-15, and one female 5-10. (USFC, pg. 189) 8. September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George Roberts. (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society records, Baltimore, MD) 9. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of September 15, 1832, “James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on September 7.”(Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, Md) James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial ground in Baltimore. He and his wife Barbara were reinterred in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old North Burial ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of Baltimore. James was reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. (Personal Visit to Greenmount Cemetery) 10. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often visited the Fawn Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn with his father, Frank W.. Kincaid, who in turn had gone every summer with his father James R.. Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the “old neighborhood.” That is why my father took me there. 6th Generation Samuel Kincaid, born abt. 1736, in Sadsbury, PA, died October 1810, in Fawn Township, York County, PA. Son of John Kinkead and Mary ? Proven by: 1. 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land in Fawn Township Lancaster Co.. Pennsylvania.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with “M”). This warrant was filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in Lancaster County warrants. 2. 1756-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid first taxed in Sadsbury Township, PA, as a single man in 1756. A single free man was taxed upon the age of 21. This being the case, Samuel would have been born about 1735-1736. (Chester County Archives and Records Service (CCAR) West Chester, Pa. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) 3. 1757-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a single man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 4. 1758-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 5. 1760-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid taxed in Sadsbury as a married man (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 6. 1762-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, Charles Kincaid, James Kincaid at wedding of James Sinkler and Mary Patterson at the Bradford Monthly meeting, Chester, PA, October 21, 1762 (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 7. 1763-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in Sadsbury(Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 8. 1765-Samuel Kinkead/Kincaid, taxed in West Caln Township, Chester County, PA, on 100 acres (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 9. 1767-Samuel Kinkead taxed in West Caln in 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771 and 1772. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 10. 1771- John Kinkead died. Will proven November 1771 provided for his wife Mary, left the farm to son Charles, and twenty pounds to sons David, John, Samuel, James. Also left sums to his sons-in-laws. (courtesy Norman Kincaide. CCAR) 11. 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from Archibald White in Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered). 12. 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County militia, Capt. William Gray’s company.(YCHT. Courtesy Mr John Heisey). 1779-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn until 1810 (York Co. Archives York Pa.) 13. 1790-U.S. Federal Census shows Samuel Kincaid with three males over 16, five males under 16, and 4 females. This indicates that Samuel Kincaid’s 7 sons were still at home in 1790, if all males listed were his sons. (York Co Archives, York Pa) 14. 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR) 15. 1810- Samuel Kincaid died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs and left Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. Details of will described in 5th generation of this vetting. 16. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. “Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in Fawn Township in the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, of land originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st month 1771 for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th day of June 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at the request of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for confirmation. Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, Barrens, Thomas Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, Harrisburg.” (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office ,COPIEDSURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.) 17.. 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 perches July 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn Township York County Pa.( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent Book Vol 9, pg 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) 7th Generation John Kinkead born about 1700,likely in Ireland, died November 1771 in Sadsbury Township, Chester County, PA. Married Mary ?. Son of unknown parents. Proven by: 1.There were no Kinkead/Kincaids in Chester County until 1728, when John Kinkead and James were taxed as married men living in Sadsbury Township. Since they were over 21, they were likely born about 1700. Place of birth is not known at this time, but other information indicates Northern Ireland as a likely place (courtesy of Norman Kincaid) 2..John and James Kinkead taxed in Sadsbury in 1730,1732,1734,1735,1736, and 1737. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 3.John Kinkead received warrant for 200 acres of land on February 4, 1734 and James received warrant for 150 acres on February 9, 1734. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 4.James Kinkead, brother of John Kinkead, disappeared from Chester County Tax lists after 1737. 5.James Kinkead moved to Barbados where he died in 1752. (Courtesy of Norman Kincaide) 6.John Kinkead, John Kinkead, Jr., Samuel Kinkead, Robert Kinkead (carpenter) and Robert Kinkead (weaver) pledged to support Rev. Boyd’s salary at Upper Octorara Presbyterian Church on Sept 1 1758. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide ) 7.Samuel Kinkead first shows up on the Tax List in Sadsbury Township in 1756; this indicates his birth was 1735 to 1736. (courtesy of Norman Kincaide ) 8.Samuel Kinkead is taxed in West Caln in 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, 1771, and 1772, but not after 1772. West Caln Township was formed in 1744 and consisted of land adjacent to John Kinkead’s land in Sadsbury Township. (Futhey and Cope, History of Chester County, PA, p. 168) 9.Samuel Kinkead was named in the administration of the estate of Andrew Kinkead (deceased) in 1769. Andrew Kinkead, formerly of Taghboyn Parish, County Donegal, Ireland, but lately of Newcastle Hundred on the Delaware died intestate, on the ship JUPITER, docked in the Delaware River, leaving considerable estate. Samuel was nearest of kin to Andrew Kinkead but was unable to undertake administration of Andrew’s estate and renounced it in favor of James Kinkead, next nearest of kin. (PCH Will Book H, p. 86, File 1652) 10.This James Kinkead, a watchmaker, came from Strabane, County Tyrone in Ireland in 1765. He was taxed in Sadsbury in 1765. James’s relationship to John Kinkead and family is not known, but it is probably very close. He is not John Kinkead’s youngest son, James. His business was noted in the newspaper as, “James Kinkead, clock and watchmaker of Strabane in Ireland, but late of Sadsbury Township. Chester County, Pennsylvania, now follows his business at Emmanuel Rouse’s Clock and Watchmaker in Front Street near the drawbridge, Philadelphia.” (Philadelphia Gazette March 14, 1765) 11.Samuel Kinkead was mentioned in his father, John Kinkead’s will. (Will written November 19, 1771, proven November 1771). Heirs documented therein were: wife, Mary, sons John, David, Samuel, Charles, James, and four sons-in-laws: Adam Hope (married to John Kinkead’s daughter Agnes), Thomas Kilpatrick (married ? ), John Simril (married to John Kinkead’s daughter Mary), and Josiah Crawford (married ?). 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