Also found on 1880 Census for Hamilton County, Noblesville Twn, a Sarah Humbles age 64 widowed, b abt 1816, with a son named Isaac aged 22 living in the home. Kelly > I found on Ancestry.com, a 1880 Census, Hamilton County Indiana, Fallcreek > twn, an Isaac Humbles hh age 62, b abt 1818, Mary J, wife age 48, and > their children. This could not be the father of Elizabeth who married > Mathew Kincade. Elizabeth was born abt 1813, it could be her brother, > cousin, etc. > > I did find a Land Patent dated Aug. 10, 1837 out of Indianapolis Office, > for the county of Hancock, for a Francis Kincade. ( 40 acres) > > Thank you Barbara for the info, it gives me another direction to start > looking, > Kelly Kincade-Lewis > > > > >> Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana appears to have been the >> father >> of the Elizabeth Humbles who married Matthew Kincaid. Matthew was >> probably the son of Francis Kincaid/Hannah Viney and grandson of Thomas >> Kincaid/Hannah Tincher. >> >> #480 HUMBLES, Isaac. Will dated 12 Jan 1881; proved 22 Jan 1881. >> Legatees: >> wife Mary Jane HUMBLES and her minor children, names not specified; >> daus. >> Emma, Francis Abigal and Nellie Humbles; children Joannah/Joan Layton, >> Mary Jane Castetter, Sarah Jane Heady, Elizabeth Kincade, Alice Ledman, >> Floretta Ledman, Vinton Edgar/Edward HUMBLES, William Franklin Humbles; >> Arminta Kincade. Also mentions: John and Elizabeth Humbles; Isaac Wood; >> Belinda Wood; David C. Thompson. No exec named. Wit: William H. >> Harrison, >> Thomas Clawson. >> Will Record E., pp. 249-253. >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.hamilton/2975/mb.ashx >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Hannah Kincaid in the court case may have been the daughter of Francis. > Was this Hannah Kinkaid the wife of Francis--- Hannah Viney? Possibly the > John Whelchel is the same John who married Elizabeth Kincaid in > Switzerland > Co, IN in 1820? > > "At the October term, 1826, there were several indictments for affrays > found. > At this term Hannah Kinkaid refiled her complaint against John Whelchel > and > wife for slander. Thereon the defendants made public retraction of the > slanderous words alleged to have been spoken and the matter was adjusted." > >

I believe it was Thomas Kincaid whose 1st wife was Hannah Vinny. They had a son Vinny who appears in Greenbrier Co. (1812) next to Thomas Jr and I think with Thomas in Ohio. Thomas married Elizabeth Murdock in 1798 so Hannah had died prior to that date. Francis married Nancy Murdock in 1798. Information given by son of Francis's son Thomas confirms that the Francis who lived on Fall Creek was the one who married Nancy Murdock and that they had removed from Greenbrier Co. VA to Indiana in 1819. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Will of Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana > Was Lucienda Kincade the same person as the Arminta Kincade in Isaac > Humbles' will? > > HUMBLE LUCIENDA married KINCADE ALLEN HamiltonCounty, IN 8-27-1840 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:39 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Will of Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana > > >> Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana appears to have been the father >> of the Elizabeth Humbles who married Matthew Kincaid. Matthew was >> probably the son of Francis Kincaid/Hannah Viney and grandson of Thomas >> Kincaid/Hannah Tincher. >> >> #480 HUMBLES, Isaac. Will dated 12 Jan 1881; proved 22 Jan 1881. >> Legatees: >> wife Mary Jane HUMBLES and her minor children, names not specified; daus. >> Emma, Francis Abigal and Nellie Humbles; children Joannah/Joan Layton, >> Mary Jane Castetter, Sarah Jane Heady, Elizabeth Kincade, Alice Ledman, >> Floretta Ledman, Vinton Edgar/Edward HUMBLES, William Franklin Humbles; >> Arminta Kincade. Also mentions: John and Elizabeth Humbles; Isaac Wood; >> Belinda Wood; David C. Thompson. No exec named. Wit: William H. Harrison, >> Thomas Clawson. >> Will Record E., pp. 249-253. >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.hamilton/2975/mb.ashx >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found on Ancestry.com, a 1880 Census, Hamilton County Indiana, Fallcreek twn, an Isaac Humbles hh age 62, b abt 1818, Mary J, wife age 48, and their children. This could not be the father of Elizabeth who married Mathew Kincade. Elizabeth was born abt 1813, it could be her brother, cousin, etc. I did find a Land Patent dated Aug. 10, 1837 out of Indianapolis Office, for the county of Hancock, for a Francis Kincade. ( 40 acres) Thank you Barbara for the info, it gives me another direction to start looking, Kelly Kincade-Lewis > Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana appears to have been the father > of the Elizabeth Humbles who married Matthew Kincaid. Matthew was > probably the son of Francis Kincaid/Hannah Viney and grandson of Thomas > Kincaid/Hannah Tincher. > > #480 HUMBLES, Isaac. Will dated 12 Jan 1881; proved 22 Jan 1881. Legatees: > wife Mary Jane HUMBLES and her minor children, names not specified; daus. > Emma, Francis Abigal and Nellie Humbles; children Joannah/Joan Layton, > Mary Jane Castetter, Sarah Jane Heady, Elizabeth Kincade, Alice Ledman, > Floretta Ledman, Vinton Edgar/Edward HUMBLES, William Franklin Humbles; > Arminta Kincade. Also mentions: John and Elizabeth Humbles; Isaac Wood; > Belinda Wood; David C. Thompson. No exec named. Wit: William H. Harrison, > Thomas Clawson. > Will Record E., pp. 249-253. > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.hamilton/2975/mb.ashx > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is the federal Bureau of Land Management website, which shows early land purchases by the patentee. Matthew Kincaid bought land in Hamilton County, IN in 1837. Thomas Kincade (use this spelling) bought land in Madison County, IN in 1826. Click on the little square to the left of the name, and it says that Thomas was from Hamilton County, Ohio. I didn't find a land purchase for Francis---perhaps he was in Indiana too early to be recorded? --unless the state of Indiana has its own land records. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <lewisjo@junct.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's > Barbara, > I have believed that Allen is a brother to Mathew who married Elizabeth > Humble, I also believe there are more brothers, as follows: Washington, > James, Allen, Thomas and, of course, Mathew. They all lived in Hamilton > County, Fallcreek Township during the 1840 Census. Mathew/Elizabeth was > near Pleasant R. Humble family and the Sarah Humble family. Mathew has 2 > males ages 20-30 in the household, I believe this to be Allen and Mathew. > Thomas has a male in his household, age 60-70, which I believe to be his > father, but not sure on that, as well as a male age 30-40, which I believe > to be himself. James and Thomas were near each other, and Washington was > near the Vanover family of Enoch M. Vanover, and an Asa? H. Vanover. > > I still have not been able to find any type of marriage bond for Mathew > and Elizabeth, either in VA, OH or IN. Haven't been able to locate where > Mathew or Elizabeth are buried either. And since I can't prove that > Francis is Mathew's father, I have not really pursued any further > information on Francis, just have made notes on what I have ran acrossed. > > I seen on someone's GEDCOM file, that Francis, son of Thomas/Hannah > Tincher, was born 1773, (which would correlate with the over 50 in 1823), > but died in 1826. If that's factual, then, Thomas' older male in the > family would not be his father, if Francis is his father. > > What are your thoughts on this matter? And thank you for your information > that you posted, I'm very excited to see this, I've been up against a > brick wall on my family passed Mathew, it actually gives me some hope that > there is something out there to be found, again...Thank you!!!! > Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robt. R. Kincade #129770 > > > >> In 1823, Francis Kinkaid was over 50 years of age. >> >> "At the November term, 1823, ....John Bruitt, Francis Kinkaid, James >> Friel, >> Sr., George Kirkendall and Robert Duncan were exempt from poll taxes, >> they >> being over fifty years >> of age." >> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv32ms.txt >> >> Hamilton County IN Archives History - Books .....Chapter VII - The >> Hamilton >> Circuit Court 1901 >> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv33ms.txt >> >> The first term of the Hamilton Circuit Court was held in 1823 at the >> house >> of William Conner, in Delaware Township. William Wick, circuit judge; >> John >> Finch and William Blackmore, associate judges; D. B. Wick, prosecuting >> attorney; W. R. Warrick, sheriff, and John. D. Stephenson, clerk. The >> commissions of all parties were recorded and the oath of office was >> administered. The grand jury was ordered by the commissioners of the >> county >> to report for duty. John >> Black and Francis Kinkaid failed to respond to the summons and >> proceedings >> were immediately begun against them for contempt of court. >> >> State vs. Francis Kinkaid, for retailing liquor without a license. >> >> Was this Hannah Kinkaid the wife of Francis--- Hannah Viney? Possibly >> the >> John Whelchel is the same John who married Elizabeth Kincaid in >> Switzerland >> Co, IN in 1820? >> >> "At the October term, 1826, there were several indictments for affrays >> found. >> At this term Hannah Kinkaid refiled her complaint against John Whelchel >> and >> wife for slander. Thereon the defendants made public retraction of the >> slanderous words alleged to have been spoken and the matter was >> adjusted." >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> >> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:53 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's >> >> >>> Book Title: A History Of The Formation, Settlement And Development Of >>> Hamilton County, Indiana >>> >>> The first white man who made permanent settlement in this township was >>> James >>> McNutt. He settled not far from the cabin built by Bridge. He was an >>> Irishman. >>> Hiram Coffee, John Whelchel and Abraham Helms followed McNutt in the >>> order >>> named. F. Kinkaid, Samuel Holliday, Richard Curry and Francis Whelchel >>> followed >>> those last named. They all built and lived in pioneer cabins of the >>> times. >>> These >>> were the men who were the first to penetrate the wilds of Fall Creek >>> Township >>> and inaugurate the struggle which terminated in the triumph of pioneer >>> courage >>> and endurance over the obstacles which stood opposed to their advance in >>> civilization and wealth. >>> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/township357gms.txt >>> >>> FIRST ELECTION: The first election was held at a cabin on the farm of >>> Francis WHELCHEL, in 1833 or 1834. Francis KINCAID was chosen Justice >>> of >>> the Peace. >>> >>> http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Hamilton-Co-IN.htm >>> >>> >>> Who was this Elizabeth Kincaid who married John Whelchell in Switzerland >>> County, Indiana in 1820? >>> >>> WHELCHELL JOHN KINCAID ELIZABETH Switzerland 10-16-1820 >>> >>> >>> "Interested in all WHELCHELS in Hamilton County. Davis WHELCHEL mar >>> Nancy >>> BARNES in SC. Migrated to Hamilton Cty abt 1815. Children: William; >>> John; >>> Francis mar Elizabeth Helms, died abt 1833 Hamilton Co; Keziah mar Wm >>> WHELCHEL; Mary mar Isaac Helms, D: abt 1834 Hamilton CO; Jemima mar >>> Abraham Helms D: 1/7/1864 Hamilton CO; Elizabeth mar Ebinezer CATLAND; >>> Charles Barnes; Sarah; Edamiah (Eda) mar David TORRENCE; Davis Leander >>> D: >>> 1872 Hamilton Co' >>> >>> This Whelchel family is quite interesting, a lot about them on the >>> internet. Davis Whelchel/Nancy Barnes was the son of Francis Whelchel >>> and >>> Ann Stockton of the Albemarle County, VA Stockton family. >>> >>> >>> Barbara >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara, I have believed that Allen is a brother to Mathew who married Elizabeth Humble, I also believe there are more brothers, as follows: Washington, James, Allen, Thomas and, of course, Mathew. They all lived in Hamilton County, Fallcreek Township during the 1840 Census. Mathew/Elizabeth was near Pleasant R. Humble family and the Sarah Humble family. Mathew has 2 males ages 20-30 in the household, I believe this to be Allen and Mathew. Thomas has a male in his household, age 60-70, which I believe to be his father, but not sure on that, as well as a male age 30-40, which I believe to be himself. James and Thomas were near each other, and Washington was near the Vanover family of Enoch M. Vanover, and an Asa? H. Vanover. I still have not been able to find any type of marriage bond for Mathew and Elizabeth, either in VA, OH or IN. Haven't been able to locate where Mathew or Elizabeth are buried either. And since I can't prove that Francis is Mathew's father, I have not really pursued any further information on Francis, just have made notes on what I have ran acrossed. I seen on someone's GEDCOM file, that Francis, son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher, was born 1773, (which would correlate with the over 50 in 1823), but died in 1826. If that's factual, then, Thomas' older male in the family would not be his father, if Francis is his father. What are your thoughts on this matter? And thank you for your information that you posted, I'm very excited to see this, I've been up against a brick wall on my family passed Mathew, it actually gives me some hope that there is something out there to be found, again...Thank you!!!! Kelly Kincade-Lewis, dau of Robt. R. Kincade #129770 > In 1823, Francis Kinkaid was over 50 years of age. > > "At the November term, 1823, ....John Bruitt, Francis Kinkaid, James > Friel, > Sr., George Kirkendall and Robert Duncan were exempt from poll taxes, they > being over fifty years > of age." > http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv32ms.txt > > Hamilton County IN Archives History - Books .....Chapter VII - The > Hamilton > Circuit Court 1901 > http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv33ms.txt > > The first term of the Hamilton Circuit Court was held in 1823 at the house > of William Conner, in Delaware Township. William Wick, circuit judge; John > Finch and William Blackmore, associate judges; D. B. Wick, prosecuting > attorney; W. R. Warrick, sheriff, and John. D. Stephenson, clerk. The > commissions of all parties were recorded and the oath of office was > administered. The grand jury was ordered by the commissioners of the > county > to report for duty. John > Black and Francis Kinkaid failed to respond to the summons and proceedings > were immediately begun against them for contempt of court. > > State vs. Francis Kinkaid, for retailing liquor without a license. > > Was this Hannah Kinkaid the wife of Francis--- Hannah Viney? Possibly the > John Whelchel is the same John who married Elizabeth Kincaid in > Switzerland > Co, IN in 1820? > > "At the October term, 1826, there were several indictments for affrays > found. > At this term Hannah Kinkaid refiled her complaint against John Whelchel > and > wife for slander. Thereon the defendants made public retraction of the > slanderous words alleged to have been spoken and the matter was adjusted." > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> > To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's > > >> Book Title: A History Of The Formation, Settlement And Development Of >> Hamilton County, Indiana >> >> The first white man who made permanent settlement in this township was >> James >> McNutt. He settled not far from the cabin built by Bridge. He was an >> Irishman. >> Hiram Coffee, John Whelchel and Abraham Helms followed McNutt in the >> order >> named. F. Kinkaid, Samuel Holliday, Richard Curry and Francis Whelchel >> followed >> those last named. They all built and lived in pioneer cabins of the >> times. >> These >> were the men who were the first to penetrate the wilds of Fall Creek >> Township >> and inaugurate the struggle which terminated in the triumph of pioneer >> courage >> and endurance over the obstacles which stood opposed to their advance in >> civilization and wealth. >> http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/township357gms.txt >> >> FIRST ELECTION: The first election was held at a cabin on the farm of >> Francis WHELCHEL, in 1833 or 1834. Francis KINCAID was chosen Justice >> of >> the Peace. >> >> http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Hamilton-Co-IN.htm >> >> >> Who was this Elizabeth Kincaid who married John Whelchell in Switzerland >> County, Indiana in 1820? >> >> WHELCHELL JOHN KINCAID ELIZABETH Switzerland 10-16-1820 >> >> >> "Interested in all WHELCHELS in Hamilton County. Davis WHELCHEL mar >> Nancy >> BARNES in SC. Migrated to Hamilton Cty abt 1815. Children: William; >> John; >> Francis mar Elizabeth Helms, died abt 1833 Hamilton Co; Keziah mar Wm >> WHELCHEL; Mary mar Isaac Helms, D: abt 1834 Hamilton CO; Jemima mar >> Abraham Helms D: 1/7/1864 Hamilton CO; Elizabeth mar Ebinezer CATLAND; >> Charles Barnes; Sarah; Edamiah (Eda) mar David TORRENCE; Davis Leander >> D: >> 1872 Hamilton Co' >> >> This Whelchel family is quite interesting, a lot about them on the >> internet. Davis Whelchel/Nancy Barnes was the son of Francis Whelchel >> and >> Ann Stockton of the Albemarle County, VA Stockton family. >> >> >> Barbara >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In 1823, Francis Kinkaid was over 50 years of age. "At the November term, 1823, ....John Bruitt, Francis Kinkaid, James Friel, Sr., George Kirkendall and Robert Duncan were exempt from poll taxes, they being over fifty years of age." http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv32ms.txt Hamilton County IN Archives History - Books .....Chapter VII - The Hamilton Circuit Court 1901 http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/chapterv33ms.txt The first term of the Hamilton Circuit Court was held in 1823 at the house of William Conner, in Delaware Township. William Wick, circuit judge; John Finch and William Blackmore, associate judges; D. B. Wick, prosecuting attorney; W. R. Warrick, sheriff, and John. D. Stephenson, clerk. The commissions of all parties were recorded and the oath of office was administered. The grand jury was ordered by the commissioners of the county to report for duty. John Black and Francis Kinkaid failed to respond to the summons and proceedings were immediately begun against them for contempt of court. State vs. Francis Kinkaid, for retailing liquor without a license. Was this Hannah Kinkaid the wife of Francis--- Hannah Viney? Possibly the John Whelchel is the same John who married Elizabeth Kincaid in Switzerland Co, IN in 1820? "At the October term, 1826, there were several indictments for affrays found. At this term Hannah Kinkaid refiled her complaint against John Whelchel and wife for slander. Thereon the defendants made public retraction of the slanderous words alleged to have been spoken and the matter was adjusted." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Francis Kincaid of Hamilton County, Indiana---1830's > Book Title: A History Of The Formation, Settlement And Development Of > Hamilton County, Indiana > > The first white man who made permanent settlement in this township was > James > McNutt. He settled not far from the cabin built by Bridge. He was an > Irishman. > Hiram Coffee, John Whelchel and Abraham Helms followed McNutt in the order > named. F. Kinkaid, Samuel Holliday, Richard Curry and Francis Whelchel > followed > those last named. They all built and lived in pioneer cabins of the times. > These > were the men who were the first to penetrate the wilds of Fall Creek > Township > and inaugurate the struggle which terminated in the triumph of pioneer > courage > and endurance over the obstacles which stood opposed to their advance in > civilization and wealth. > http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/township357gms.txt > > FIRST ELECTION: The first election was held at a cabin on the farm of > Francis WHELCHEL, in 1833 or 1834. Francis KINCAID was chosen Justice of > the Peace. > > http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Hamilton-Co-IN.htm > > > Who was this Elizabeth Kincaid who married John Whelchell in Switzerland > County, Indiana in 1820? > > WHELCHELL JOHN KINCAID ELIZABETH Switzerland 10-16-1820 > > > "Interested in all WHELCHELS in Hamilton County. Davis WHELCHEL mar Nancy > BARNES in SC. Migrated to Hamilton Cty abt 1815. Children: William; John; > Francis mar Elizabeth Helms, died abt 1833 Hamilton Co; Keziah mar Wm > WHELCHEL; Mary mar Isaac Helms, D: abt 1834 Hamilton CO; Jemima mar > Abraham Helms D: 1/7/1864 Hamilton CO; Elizabeth mar Ebinezer CATLAND; > Charles Barnes; Sarah; Edamiah (Eda) mar David TORRENCE; Davis Leander D: > 1872 Hamilton Co' > > This Whelchel family is quite interesting, a lot about them on the > internet. Davis Whelchel/Nancy Barnes was the son of Francis Whelchel and > Ann Stockton of the Albemarle County, VA Stockton family. > > > Barbara > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Book Title: A History Of The Formation, Settlement And Development Of Hamilton County, Indiana The first white man who made permanent settlement in this township was James McNutt. He settled not far from the cabin built by Bridge. He was an Irishman. Hiram Coffee, John Whelchel and Abraham Helms followed McNutt in the order named. F. Kinkaid, Samuel Holliday, Richard Curry and Francis Whelchel followed those last named. They all built and lived in pioneer cabins of the times. These were the men who were the first to penetrate the wilds of Fall Creek Township and inaugurate the struggle which terminated in the triumph of pioneer courage and endurance over the obstacles which stood opposed to their advance in civilization and wealth. http://files.usgwarchives.net/in/hamilto/history/1901/ahistory/township357gms.txt FIRST ELECTION: The first election was held at a cabin on the farm of Francis WHELCHEL, in 1833 or 1834. Francis KINCAID was chosen Justice of the Peace. http://home.att.net/~Local_History/Hamilton-Co-IN.htm Who was this Elizabeth Kincaid who married John Whelchell in Switzerland County, Indiana in 1820? WHELCHELL JOHN KINCAID ELIZABETH Switzerland 10-16-1820 "Interested in all WHELCHELS in Hamilton County. Davis WHELCHEL mar Nancy BARNES in SC. Migrated to Hamilton Cty abt 1815. Children: William; John; Francis mar Elizabeth Helms, died abt 1833 Hamilton Co; Keziah mar Wm WHELCHEL; Mary mar Isaac Helms, D: abt 1834 Hamilton CO; Jemima mar Abraham Helms D: 1/7/1864 Hamilton CO; Elizabeth mar Ebinezer CATLAND; Charles Barnes; Sarah; Edamiah (Eda) mar David TORRENCE; Davis Leander D: 1872 Hamilton Co' This Whelchel family is quite interesting, a lot about them on the internet. Davis Whelchel/Nancy Barnes was the son of Francis Whelchel and Ann Stockton of the Albemarle County, VA Stockton family. Barbara

Was Lucienda Kincade the same person as the Arminta Kincade in Isaac Humbles' will? HUMBLE LUCIENDA married KINCADE ALLEN HamiltonCounty, IN 8-27-1840 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:39 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Will of Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana > Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana appears to have been the father > of the Elizabeth Humbles who married Matthew Kincaid. Matthew was > probably the son of Francis Kincaid/Hannah Viney and grandson of Thomas > Kincaid/Hannah Tincher. > > #480 HUMBLES, Isaac. Will dated 12 Jan 1881; proved 22 Jan 1881. Legatees: > wife Mary Jane HUMBLES and her minor children, names not specified; daus. > Emma, Francis Abigal and Nellie Humbles; children Joannah/Joan Layton, > Mary Jane Castetter, Sarah Jane Heady, Elizabeth Kincade, Alice Ledman, > Floretta Ledman, Vinton Edgar/Edward HUMBLES, William Franklin Humbles; > Arminta Kincade. Also mentions: John and Elizabeth Humbles; Isaac Wood; > Belinda Wood; David C. Thompson. No exec named. Wit: William H. Harrison, > Thomas Clawson. > Will Record E., pp. 249-253. > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.hamilton/2975/mb.ashx > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Isaac Humbles of Hamilton County, Indiana appears to have been the father of the Elizabeth Humbles who married Matthew Kincaid. Matthew was probably the son of Francis Kincaid/Hannah Viney and grandson of Thomas Kincaid/Hannah Tincher. #480 HUMBLES, Isaac. Will dated 12 Jan 1881; proved 22 Jan 1881. Legatees: wife Mary Jane HUMBLES and her minor children, names not specified; daus. Emma, Francis Abigal and Nellie Humbles; children Joannah/Joan Layton, Mary Jane Castetter, Sarah Jane Heady, Elizabeth Kincade, Alice Ledman, Floretta Ledman, Vinton Edgar/Edward HUMBLES, William Franklin Humbles; Arminta Kincade. Also mentions: John and Elizabeth Humbles; Isaac Wood; Belinda Wood; David C. Thompson. No exec named. Wit: William H. Harrison, Thomas Clawson. Will Record E., pp. 249-253. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.hamilton/2975/mb.ashx

The 3rd panel results for 130207 have been posted. The only variance from the Group A Apparent Ancestral Value in the 13-25 marker range occurs at marker 13 (DYS458) where he has a 17 instead of the AAV 16. This places him in Group A set 1a. 130207 believes descent from Thomas and Eliza Jane Townsend of Fayette Co. WVA. Eliza is the 2nd wife of Thomas b 1829 who m Isabella Campbell in 1849-50. We can follow him in the censuses from 1850 through 1880. On his marriage information for his marriage to Eliza he states his parents were Thomas & Mary Kincaid. Thomas appears with Mary Kincaid age 53 widow in his 1850 census. This is exciting for the Greenbrier/Fayette Co. VA(WVA) Kincaids. The paper trail strongly suggests that this Thomas is the son of Thomas, son of Samuel of the 3 wives and that mother Mary is "Polly" Davis who is the vetted ancestress of 33001 (A-1c) and the likely ancestress of 101753 (A-1a). Of interest also is that 49289's (A-2a) vetted ancestor, who appears in the same 1850 census, married the sister of Isabella Campbell and has long been thought to be a brother to this Thomas. A second line from 49289's ancestor is being sought in order to confirm or isolate the marker 15 nine which places him in set 2. The Greenbrieer Co. area is a large tangle of Kincaids with several families represented. It is through DNA that there is any hope of unsnarling the families. Full results for the 37 marker test ordered by 124250 have been returned. He matches the Group A AAV in all but the following alelles. He has the marker 15 (DYS459b) nine which places him in Set 2. He has the marker 30 (DYS456) 18 which places him in Set 2a. In addition he also has a 16 at marker 22 (DYS 460a) instead of the AAV 15 and a 16 at marker 33 (DYS570) instead of the AAV 17. 51828 (A-2b) also has the 16 at marker 22. 51828 is vetted to David/Lucy McCormick b 1795 of Maury Co. TN. I have no ancestral information for 124250. Sue Liedtke

I owe all those who responded to my request last month for information about the 1870 Appanoose County, Iowa, census an apology -- this has been a very busy month for me and I neglected to thank all of you. I really do appreciate the information and hopefully will have time to work more with it soon. Thank you very much for the responses -- and I'm so sorry I missed answering sooner. Mary Hart

To be able to send in your DNA sample you will need to join the Kincaid DNA Project and you can do this by going to http://www.familytreedna.com/public/kincaid/ and filling out the "request to join" form and Family Tree DNA will then send you a kit. The kit will have 2 swabs to use on the inside of your facial cheeks which you will put into the containers and return to Family Tree DNA. You can pay when you fill out the form via a credit card or by check when you mail in the kit. The cost for the Kincaid Y DNA test varies by the amount of markers you want tested. The 12 marker test is a basic test, the 25 marker test provides additional info, the 37 marker test results will be sufficient for you to know which Kincaid Group and set you belong in and is the one we recommend. By joining the Kincaid DNA Project you will automatically get the group discount on pricing which will be on the form you fill out which will ask you to select which test you want and give you the price for it. There are other dna tests available besides the Y dna but it is the most useful. Please take a look at the Kincaid DNA Results chart if you haven't by clicking on the link at the bottom of this email and you will see that most Kincaid DNA participants have chosen the 37 marker test. Also you might find someone on the chart you share a common ancestor with or see where you think you will fit. Don W. Kincaid Kincaid Surname DNA Administrator Team donwkincaid@cox.net 254 631-5684 ----- Original Message ----- From: The United States Metis Nation To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] New DNA results for 130207 How would I send my DNA in for the project? How much money does it cost? To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

K-listers, I'm in Westmoreland Co., PA, looking formy Mary Land Kinkead and David Kinkead. I've found out that they owned a farm up in Mercer County, so am heading up there tomorrow, but today's search produced graves of Andrew Kincaid Esq. at Salem Presbyterian Church in Derry Twp. The Beltzer-Meyer Historical Society (big-time kudos to them) in Greensburg produced this 10 year old transcription of these graves: KINCAID -Andrew, Esqr. 9-28-1751 2-5-1821 69 yrs Revol War vet -Mary 1814 16 yrs -3 stones in a row, beside above, all same shape as above, illegible -George 10-26-1859 79 yrs Stone fallen, in berry patchat top of hill -Name flaked off, beside above, 1814 about 80 years -Jane, wf of George 10-9-1814 62 years -Name illegible, beside above 4-20-1842 23 yrs of "her" life I have photos of these for those interested or related. It looks like some kind of tragedy in 1814, eh? Disease, Indian attack? This old Florida geezer was enjoying the snowfall this morning . . . alone! Dick Kinkead 2562 A1a

How would I send my DNA in for the project? How much money does it cost?

Ruth, Thank you once again for Walter, "Buckys" obit. I had been notified of his passing by my cousin on the day he passed away. I did pass your notice on to our cousin after recieving yours. Thanks again. Ron Kincaid ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utahn1@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Obits >I did something new yesterday. Google has a feature which will allow one to > receive an Alert on subjects or names of your choosing. Quite some time > ago I > had put in Cherecwich and Cherewich and it's amazing what I get notified > of > that appears in print. > > So yesterday, I decided to put in a few Kincaid name variations along with > the word obit. The two that I posted earlier were ones that Google found > and > sent me. Each time I get sent one, I will copy and paste the obit giving > the > appropriate source so that I stay within copyright guidelines. I will also > put > the appropriate name and dates in the subject line. In this way, we might > be > able to find some current cousins. > > Ruth Cherecwich > > > **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your > favorites, > no registration required and great graphics – check it out! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= > http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

The first (1-12) and third (26-37) panels for 130207 have been returned. He matches the Group A Apparent Ancestral Values at all but 2 markers. At marker 34 (CDYa) he has a 36 instead of the AAV 37. At marker 35 (CDYb) he has a 40 instead of the AAV 39. The 40 at marker 35 appears 6 times within the project. Those having it are scattered throughout the sets so its appearance may or may not have any usable significance in suggesting relationship. The 36 at marker 34 appears in all of set 4 results, once in set 1b (the lack of a 12 at marker 26 precludes him from this set), and once in set 1a (102911 vetted to David/Bathsheba also has this mutatation). Again its appearance may or may not hold any relationship significance. Until the second panel (13-25) is returned he cannot be placed in a Group A set though sets 1b, 1c and 2b are now eliminated as possibilities. I do not have lineage information for this participant. He has ordered a 37 marker test. Sue Liedtke

Tests are being re-run for 130629 so it will be awhile before he is placed in a Group-set. As I have not heard any objections or questions regarding his line to Thomas McDowll Kincaid, I am marking this line as vetted. While there is a possibility using circumstantial evidence that Thomas McDowell could be a grandson of either Archibald or Andrew who married the Townsley sisters, the connection has not been documented. IF tests results match 1263 in A-2b who believes descent from Andrew/Martha Townsley, the possibility becomes much stronger. Sue Liedtke > Vetting: Doyle Eugene Kincaid to Thomas McDowell Kincaid > Researcher: Marcella Kincaid Campbell, sister > > DNA# 130629 > Testing in Progress. > > Participant: Doyle Eugene Kincaid b. 7 February 1938 - Harrison > Township, Clay County, IN > > Son of: Solomon Kincaid and Pearl Edna Froderman > > Proven by: > > Indiana Birth Certificate listing Doyle Eugene as son of Solomon > Kincaid and Pearl Froderman > > Personal knowledge: I knew Solomon as our father and was acknowledged > by family members as his daughter and Doyle as his son. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Solomon Kincaid b. 4 July 1889 in Jasper Co., IL d. 8 February > 1964 in Clay Co., IN > m. 5 September 1926 to Pearl Edna Froderman > > Son of: James Edgar Kincaid and Harriet Ann Addy > > Proven by: > IL Birth Certificate for Solomon Kincaid listing James Edgar Kincaid > and Harriet Addy as his parents > > Bible Record - Personal possession of Bible ("International Series" > containing Old and New Testaments published by The John C. Winston Co.) > Information recorded in Bible as follows: J.E. Kincaid of Clay Co. IN and > Harriet A. Addy of Clay Co., IN were by me united in Matrimony according > to the ordinance of GOD and the laws of Indiana at Bowling Green on the > (5) fifth day of March in the year of our Lord 1868. Signed by George > Beamer Witnessed by: Livona Kincaid, Mary Funk and Casius Funk. > NOTE: Livonia Kincaid was a sister to J.E. Kincaid (see 1850 census > for Thomas Kincaid) and Mary Funk was a twin sister to Harriet Addy. > Casius Funk was the husband of Mary Funk > > Other records in Bible list the Marriages of the children, including > Solomon on September 5, 1926, Children's Names, including Solomon Kincaid > born on 4 July 1889 along with a twin brother who died unnamed. Deaths > listed were Harriet Kincaid April 10th, 1898 and the unnamed Infant on > August 18th, 1889. I was told that this Bible belonged to James Edgar > and Harriet Kincaid and on the death of Margaret Booker (an older sister > of Solomon) was passed down to my father, Solomon Kincaid. > > Children listed in the Bible are: > > Louie Kincaid Jan, 2nd. 1869 fe > Margaret L. Kincaid Feb. 19th, 1871 fe > William Kincaid Jan, 22nd, 1873 m > Catharine Kincaid Aug. 28th, 1875 fe > John Kincaid July 15th, 1878 m > Thomas Kincaid Mar. 14, 1881 m > Ira Kincaid Feb. 1st, 1884 m > Bertha Kincaid Sept. 23rd, 1886 fe > Solomon Kincaid July 4th, 1889 m > Infant, Kincaid July 4th, 1889 m > > Marriage Application: Application for Marriage License -- Male - > shows the following: > > Solomon Kincaid , white, born in Jasper Co., Illinois on July 4th, > 1889 and presently living at Center Point, IN working as a farmer whose > father was J. E. Kincaid and his mother was Harriet Addy. Subscribed and > sworn to before _____ McIntyre, Clerk Clay Circuit Court, on 4th day of > September 1926. Information also included on Pearl E. Froderman, spouse. > > 1880 Census for South Muddy Township, Jasper Co., Illinois > > Schedule 1, Page 18, Enumeration Dist # 164 > > Dwelling # 159, Family # 164 > > Kincaid, James E 38 M Farmer Indiana KY KY > Kincaid, Harriet A 32 wife Hskp Ohio OH > OH > Kincaid, Louie 11 dau IL > IN OH > Kincaid, Margaret 9 dau IL IN > OH > Kincaid, William 7 son IL > IN OH > Kincaid, Sarah C 4 dau IL IN > OH > Kincaid, John 2 son IL > IN OH > > 1900 Census for South Muddy Township, Jasper Co., Illinois > > Sheet 11, Line 195 > > Kincade, James Dec 1841 58 Wd IN OH OH > Farmer > Kincade, John July 1878 21 IL > Farm laborer > Kincade, Thomas Mar 1881 19 IL > Farm laborer > Kincade, Ira Feb 1884 16 IL > Farm laborer > Kincade, Bertha Sept 1886 13 IL > Kincade, Solomon July 1889 10 IL > Metcalf, Charles W Feb 1873 27 IL IL IL > Farm laborer married 6 yrs > Metcalf, Catherine Aug 1875 24 IL IN IN > > Note: Catherine Metcalf was an older sister of Solomon. Solomon > was born in 1889 so does not show on 1880 census. Sarah "Catherine" > married Charles Metcalf in Feb of 1894 and was living in the household > with her father. See above. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Edgar Kincaid b. 2 December 1841 in Washington Township, Clay > Co., IN d. 12 August 1918 in Richland Co., IL > m. 5 March 1868 in Clay Co., IN Bk 2, pg 784 to Harriet Ann Addy > > > Son of: Thomas McDowell Kincaid & Martha Ann McNabb > > Proven by: > > 1840 Clay Co., IN Census > Thomas M. Kincade 1 male 20-30 1 female under 5 1 female > 20-30 > > 1850 Clay Co., IN Census > Thomas M Kincaid age 34 KY > Martha age 34 KY > Livonia age 14 IN > Samuel L age 11 IN > James Edgar age 7 IN > Mary age 5 IN > Alvin 1/2 IN > . > > 1860 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house # 398, > family number 375 > Thomas M. Kincaid age 49 farmer Kentucky > Martha A. Kincaid age 44 weaver Kentucky > Livonia Kincaid age 22 weaver Indiana > Samuel L. Kincaid age 20 farm laborer Indiana > James E. Kincaid age 18 farm laborer Indiana > Eliza Kincaid age 16 spinster Indiana > Polly Kincaid age 14 Indiana > William N Kincaid age 7 Indiana > Nancy E. Kincaid age 4 Indiana > Henry L. Kincaid age 1 Indiana > > 1870 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house #132, > family number 125 > Kinkade, Thomas 59 farming Kentucky > Kinkade, Martha A 54 keeps house Kentucky > Kinkade, Samuel 31 farm laborer Indiana > Kinkade, William 17 Indiana > Kinkade, Elizabeth 14 Indiana > Kinkade, Henry L 11 Indiana > > 1880 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house #114, > family number 114 > Kingcade, Martha 64 keeps house Kentucky > Kingcade, Samuel 40 farm hand Indiana > > Dwelling house # 115, family # 115 > Kingcade, Henry 21 farm hand Indiana > Kingcade, Alma A 21 keeps house Missouri > > 1900 Clay Co. IN Census - Washington Township Dwelling house #195, > family #195 > Huber, Frank Oct, 1849 IN PA PA head > Huber, Nancy E. Mar, 1856 IN KY KY wife > Huber, Norie A Jan, 1877 IN IN IN dau > Huber, Marthie Sep, 1878 IN IN IN dau > Huber, Moris (?) M Jun 1886 IN IN IN son (hard to > read sic Lara Melton Huber) > > Kincade, Martha Jan 1816 KY KY KY m-in-law > > > NOTE: James and Harriet Kincaid moved to Jasper Co., Illinois soon > after their marriage in 1868. > Personal knowledge - Have no personal knowledge of any of the > siblings of James E. Kincaid. The last one, Henry, died in 1949 and I had > never met him. I have snapshots of Henry Kincaid with some of his > descendants and my father, Solomon. My father acknowledged that Henry was > his uncle. > > Lara (we called him Larry) Huber in the above 1900 census and my > father, Solomon (went by Toby), were first cousins. I personally knew > Larry and his wife, Eunice, as a child because we visited them often. > (Marcella Kincaid Campbell) > > --:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thomas McDowell Kincaid b. 27 February 1811 in KY d. 31 October > 1875 in Washington Township, Clay Co., IN > m. 18 August 1836 in Morgan Co., IN to Martha Ann McNabb b. 18 > January 1816 in KY d. 4 June 1904 in Washington Township, Clay Co., IN > > Son of: unknown > 1840 census for Washington Township, Clay Co, Indiana shows Thomas M. > Kincade, 1 male under 5, 1 male 20-30, 1 female under 5, 1 female 20-30. > Tombstone inscriptions in Mt Zion Cemetery, Washington Township, Clay > Co., Indiana show Thomas M. Kincaid Born February 12, 1811 Died > October 31, 1875 and Martha A. Kincaid Born January 18, 1816 Died June > 4, 1904 NOTE: I have photos of these stones.( Marcella Kincaid > Campbell) (Marriage Records of Morgan County, Indiana, Book A, page 305 > (1822-1842) W.R. Stevens, Clerk and Signed by A McNabb AJ states the > following: Thomas Kincade to Martha Ann McNabb August 18, 1836 > > Thomas Kincaid entered land 4 September 1837 in Washington Township, > Clay Co., IN E 1/2 NE 1/4 Sec. 28 Township 11 North of Range 5 West > > He lived there until his death in 1875. This property was in the > family for a number of years later, because it was purchased/inherited by > the daughter, Nancy. She and her husband, John Franklin Huber lived there > for a number of years. (I have not checked land records yet on the > succession of this property.) > > NOTE: An Archibald Tousley Kincaid entered land 7 October 1837 in > Washington Township, Clay co., Indiana W 1/2 NE 1/4 Section 17 Township > 11 North of Range 5 West. Cenuse record for 1850 shows Archibald > Kincaid, age 32, b. in Ohio and wife, Sarah, age 22, b. in IN, in > Washington Township, Clay Co., IN with Margaret Bradshaw, age 64, b. PA, > Nancy Kincaid, age 34, b. KY and Nelson Kincaid, age 22 b. IN > > This property is very near the property of Thomas Kincaid and > Archibald could possibly be his brother. I have a copy of a letter > addressed to Thomas Kincaid and family, dated April the th5 1855 from > Nancy Ann Kincaid. She begins by saying "Dear brother and sister". There > is no indication of where this originated. She requests that Thomas shear > her "few sheep" and that Livonia (oldest daughter of Thomas and Martha) to > spin and weave it for her. I have a copy of another letter dated February > th18 1849 from Philip McNabb of Mooresville, Morgan Co., IN to Thomas and > Marthy Kincaid. He addressed them as "Dear and mutch respected Uncle and > Aunt". I have some McNabb information which leads me to believe that > Martha Ann McNabb was the daughter of James Edgar McNabb and Polly Coryell > who came to Morgan Co. in the mid 1830's from Montgomery Co., KY. I can > prove that this Phillip McNabb (who was a doctor) was the grandson of > James Edgar McNabb. Also, Thomas and Martha na! > > med their second son (my grandfather) James Edgar Kincaid . Their first > son was named Samuel. > > The 1860 census for Washington Township, Clay Co, IN shows Nancy L. > Kincaid, 48, weaver b. KY living with the Martin Crows (Crouse) family. > There is a 4 year discrepancy in the age of the Nancy with Archibald and > this Nancy, but still could be the same person. > > The children of Thomas McDowell Kincaid and Martha Ann McNabb were: > > 1. Livonia Kincaid b. 2 February 1837, Clay Co., IN d. 27 > November 1924, Clay Co., IN m. Michael Huber 12 December 1869 in Clay > Co., IN Bk 3, pg 31 > > 2. Samuel L. Kincaid b. 25 September 1839 in Clay Co., IN d. 16 > October 1911 in Clay Co., IN Unmarried - Served in Civil War > > 3. James Edgar Kincaid b. 2 December 1841 in Clay Co., IN d. 12 > August 1918 in Richland Co., IL > m. Harriet Ann Cain or Addy (family used both surnames) 5 March > 1868 in Clay Co., IN Bk 2 pg 784 Served in Civil War > > 4. Eliza Kincaid b. 19 November 1843 in Clay Co., IN d. 32 March > 1924 in Clay Co. (or possibly Owen Co.) IN > m. Charles P. Chambers 19 August 1860 in Clay Co., IN Bk 1, pg 522 > > 5. Mary "Polly" Kincaid b. 12 April 1846 in Clay Co., IN d. 14 > October 1927 in Niota, TN m. Abner T. Perry Ray 15 March 1864 in Clay > Co., IN Bk 2 pg 149 > > 6. Alvin M. Kincaid b. 15 February 1850 in Clay Co., IN d. 9 > October 1851 (probably in Clay Co., IN) > > 7. William Nelson Kincaid b. 15 March 1853 in Clay Co., IN d. 5 > July 1942 (probably in Cumberland Co., IL) m. > Johanna Elizabeth Staley in Clay Co., IN Bk 4 pg 83 > > 8. Nancy Elizabeth Kincaid b. 27 March 1856 in Clay Co., IN d. 24 > January 1935 in Clay Co., IN m. John Franklin Huber 26 March 1847 in > Clay Co., IN Bk 3 pg 504 > > 9. Henry Lewis Kincaid b. 16 September 1858 in Clay Co., IN d. 22 > November 1949 in Blackford Co., IN m. Alma Alice Cravens 24 April 1879 in > Owen County, IN > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 13-25 marker panel for 130404 has been received from the lab. On these markers he matches the Group A Apparent Ancestral Values at all markers except 15 (DYS459b) where he has the set 2 nine instead of the AAV ten. This was expected as he claims descent from James Woodburn as does 15550 but it is nice to have confirmation. He has been placed in Group A Set 2a. The only difference in results for 130404 and 15550 occurs at marker 4 (DYS391) where 130404 has the pesky 11 instead of the AVV 12. If both lines can be vetted to James Woodburn, we will have an additional occurance of this mutation being from a parallel (unrelated) incidence. Both 130404 and 15550 share a mutation to 38 at marker 35 (CDYb). Again if both can be vetted to James Woodburn, we will know that he also had this mutation as the lines are from different sons. It will be awhile before the results for markers 36-67 are reported. Along with tests for 124250, 130629 and 31493, the first run failed to yield reliable results so the tests are being run again. This is part of FTDNA's quality control. If they are not absolutely sure of the results they will not post them but will run a second test using the A swab. If results are still not clear, they will then test the B swab. It is frustrating to have to wait longer but it is better the results be accurate when they are returned. Sue Liedtke

Ruth, This will really be of help to someone, who can't get these. > From: Utahn1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:02:35 -0400> To: Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Subject: [KINCAID] Bruce Kincaid 1880-1960> > Bruce Kincaid Obituary> > Bruce Kincaid Dies Monday> Daniel Bruce Kincaid, 79, of Crandon, died suddenly at 10 o’clock Monday > morning at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Ac Pence, also of Crandon.> Funeral services were held at 2 o’clock today at the Halverson Funeral Home > here, with the Rev. Frank D. Harris, Presbyterian pastor, officiating.> Interment was in the Crandon Lakeside cemetery.> Deceased was born Nov. 19, 1880, in Lee county, Ky., the son of Thomas and > Polly Kincaid. Mr. Kincaid was married on Mary 25, 1903, to Callie Donna > Plummer, who died May 17, 1958.> Mr. Kincaid was a resident of Crandon since April 1, 1921. He operated a > dairy farm here for many years.> Among the survivors are three daughters, Mrs. Ac (Georgetta) Pence of > Crandon, and Mrs. Ralph (Geneva) Rhode and Mrs. Alfred (Nola) Rhode of Oconto; five > sisters, Mrs. Edith Campbell, of Booneville, Ky,; Mrs. Carrie Hoskins of > Lexington, Ky., Mrs. Marian Rowllins of Evarts, Ky., Mrs Mattie Wilder of > Hamilton, Ohio, Mrs. Posy Flannery of Levi, Ky., and Mrs. Elizabeth Kincaid of > Hamilton, Ky.; two brothers, Wm. Kincaid of Cambell, Calif., and Morgan Kincaid > of Steinhatche of Florida; seven grandchildren and five great grandchildren.> Besides his wife, a son who died in infancy, two brothers and two sisters > preceded him in death.> Published January 7, 1960> Forest County Republican> Crandon, WI> > **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, > no registration required and great graphics – check it out! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir=> http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel:> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008