It is speculative of me to say where they settled until I see the actual grants. I do think these records survived. However, I am pretty sure that Captain Robert Kinkead settled in the Island Magee area of County Antrim. I also believe that Claud Kinkead settled in County Tyrone given that the name Claud Kinkead only appears there. It is possible that he is the ancestor of the Baronscourt, County Tyrone Kinkeads. Captain Alexander Kinkead died in 1661 and had sons Robert, John, Hugh and Paul. I'm not sure where he settled but County Antrim is likely for one of the Alexanders. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Gathering of the Clans: Kincaids Thanks, Peter. I could have guessed that from the thoroughness of the content. I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't some imposter of you out there who did it. As usual, I came across what was new information for me on the Wikipedia site. As quoted below: "*Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead were among the '49 officers who received grants in Ireland upon King Charles' return to power." I assume the 49 refers to 1649. Two Alexander's, a Robert, and a Claud in 1649 could have left a long trail of descendents somewhere in the world. Does anyone have any records of what they did with their land grants in Ireland, and, of course, what might have happened to their descendents 2-3 generations later when the migration from Ireland to North America took place? My understanding is that all the paper records of colonists in Northern Ireland perished when the courthouse holding them burned down in the last Irish uprising against the British around 1919 or so. Don (Larry) Kincaid On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca>wrote: > I wrote and uploaded most of the information that is on > the Clan Kincaid wijipedia website. > > Peter A. Kincaid > Fredericton, NB, Canada

Thanks, Peter. I could have guessed that from the thoroughness of the content. I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't some imposter of you out there who did it. As usual, I came across what was new information for me on the Wikipedia site. As quoted below: "*Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead were among the '49 officers who received grants in Ireland upon King Charles' return to power." I assume the 49 refers to 1649. Two Alexander's, a Robert, and a Claud in 1649 could have left a long trail of descendents somewhere in the world. Does anyone have any records of what they did with their land grants in Ireland, and, of course, what might have happened to their descendents 2-3 generations later when the migration from Ireland to North America took place? My understanding is that all the paper records of colonists in Northern Ireland perished when the courthouse holding them burned down in the last Irish uprising against the British around 1919 or so. Don (Larry) Kincaid On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Peter A. Kincaid <7kincaid@nb.sympatico.ca>wrote: > I wrote and uploaded most of the information that is on > the Clan Kincaid wijipedia website. > > Peter A. Kincaid > Fredericton, NB, Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Kincaid > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:29 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Gathering of the Clans: Kincaids > > > I just sent in my request to join the group tour organized by the Kincaid > clan in Scotland for the Gathering of the Clans in July? Who else is > planning on this tour or on attending the gathering? > > While browsing the web looking for information about Thomas Kincaid, the > surgeon, 17th century, I came across the history of the Kincaid clan in > Wikipedia. Anyone know who wrote this history? I have a few questions > about some of the Kincaid's mentioned on this site. Does anyone have any > information about the following Kincaid of the 17th century? > Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and > Alexander Kinkead [SEE BELOW] > > *17th century* > > John Kincaid of Warriston was murdered by his wife's lover, Robert Weir, > on > July 1, 1600. Convicted for instigating the murder his wife, Lady Jean > Livingstoun of Dunipace, was quickly beheaded on the "Maiden" but the > infamy > of the murder was to live on in Scottish > ballads.[16]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-15 > >Thomas > Kincaid was appointed a surgeon in Alexander Leslie's Covenanter army > invading England to support the Parliamentarians and he was given command > of > a brigade of two regiments prior to the Battle of Marston > Moor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marston_Moor>in 1644. > [17] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-16> Thomas > Kincaid > of Warriston suffered heavily during the civil war as subsequent invading > English armies, particularly by invasions in 1650 and 1651, inflicted > damages to his estates of Warriston, Heuch and Overgoger amounting to > 37,000 > merks Scots.[18] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-17> > It > was at this time that some Kincaids immigrated to > Ireland<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland>in support of the > Royalist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier> cause. *Captain > Alexander > Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead were > among the '49 officers who received grants in Ireland upon King Charles' > return to power. * > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wrote and uploaded most of the information that is on the Clan Kincaid wijipedia website. Peter A. Kincaid Fredericton, NB, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Gathering of the Clans: Kincaids I just sent in my request to join the group tour organized by the Kincaid clan in Scotland for the Gathering of the Clans in July? Who else is planning on this tour or on attending the gathering? While browsing the web looking for information about Thomas Kincaid, the surgeon, 17th century, I came across the history of the Kincaid clan in Wikipedia. Anyone know who wrote this history? I have a few questions about some of the Kincaid's mentioned on this site. Does anyone have any information about the following Kincaid of the 17th century? Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead [SEE BELOW] *17th century* John Kincaid of Warriston was murdered by his wife's lover, Robert Weir, on July 1, 1600. Convicted for instigating the murder his wife, Lady Jean Livingstoun of Dunipace, was quickly beheaded on the "Maiden" but the infamy of the murder was to live on in Scottish ballads.[16]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-15>Thomas Kincaid was appointed a surgeon in Alexander Leslie's Covenanter army invading England to support the Parliamentarians and he was given command of a brigade of two regiments prior to the Battle of Marston Moor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marston_Moor>in 1644. [17] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-16> Thomas Kincaid of Warriston suffered heavily during the civil war as subsequent invading English armies, particularly by invasions in 1650 and 1651, inflicted damages to his estates of Warriston, Heuch and Overgoger amounting to 37,000 merks Scots.[18] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-17> It was at this time that some Kincaids immigrated to Ireland<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland>in support of the Royalist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier> cause. *Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead were among the '49 officers who received grants in Ireland upon King Charles' return to power. * To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just sent in my request to join the group tour organized by the Kincaid clan in Scotland for the Gathering of the Clans in July? Who else is planning on this tour or on attending the gathering? While browsing the web looking for information about Thomas Kincaid, the surgeon, 17th century, I came across the history of the Kincaid clan in Wikipedia. Anyone know who wrote this history? I have a few questions about some of the Kincaid's mentioned on this site. Does anyone have any information about the following Kincaid of the 17th century? Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead [SEE BELOW] *17th century* John Kincaid of Warriston was murdered by his wife's lover, Robert Weir, on July 1, 1600. Convicted for instigating the murder his wife, Lady Jean Livingstoun of Dunipace, was quickly beheaded on the "Maiden" but the infamy of the murder was to live on in Scottish ballads.[16]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-15>Thomas Kincaid was appointed a surgeon in Alexander Leslie's Covenanter army invading England to support the Parliamentarians and he was given command of a brigade of two regiments prior to the Battle of Marston Moor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marston_Moor>in 1644. [17] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-16> Thomas Kincaid of Warriston suffered heavily during the civil war as subsequent invading English armies, particularly by invasions in 1650 and 1651, inflicted damages to his estates of Warriston, Heuch and Overgoger amounting to 37,000 merks Scots.[18] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kincaid#cite_note-17> It was at this time that some Kincaids immigrated to Ireland<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland>in support of the Royalist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalier> cause. *Captain Alexander Kinked, Captain Robert Kinkead, Claud Kinkead and Alexander Kinkead were among the '49 officers who received grants in Ireland upon King Charles' return to power. *

Connie--Carolyn from CT here. Wishing you safety during this difficult time. We had an ice storm in 1973 or so when the power was out for 5 days, and we thought that was tough. It was beautiful looking at all the silvery trees, but they soon started snapping off and falling all over the place. It makes you sit up and take notice. I hope KY does better than anticipated, and will be thinking of you from a relatively quiet period of wintertime. Also, hope you're feeling better following surgery. Who needs this after that?! **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

This news about last week's ice storm in Kentucky reminds me of Hurricane Katrina. What is the response from FEMA? How is Connie and her family doing---do they have power yet? "Utility crews renewed work in subfreezing temperatures Saturday in their effort to put the power back on for nearly a million customers left in the dark by an ice storm that crippled parts of several states this week. Thousands of people in ice-caked Kentucky awoke in motels and shelters, asked to leave their homes by authorities who said emergency teams in some areas were too strapped to reach everyone in need of food, water and warmth. A 20-degree temperature boost was forecast across much of the region, a boon to the power crews but one that carried with it the threat of flooding. Dozens of deaths have been reported and many people are pleading for a faster response to the power outages. About 536,000 homes and businesses across Kentucky were without power, down from more than 600,000 the largest outage in state history, surpassing the damage last year from the remnants of Hurricane Ike. The outages disabled water systems in much of the western part of the state, where some in rural areas resorted to dipping buckets in a creek. Authorities warned it could be days or weeks before power was restored in the most remote spots. That uncertainty had many appealing for help. Officials issued curfews Friday and urged those in dark homes to leave. "We're asking people to pack a suitcase and head south and find a motel if they have the means, because we can't service everybody in our shelter," said Crittenden County Judge-Executive Fred Brown, who oversees about 9,000 people, many of whom spent a fifth night sleeping in the town's elementary school. Local officials grew angrier at what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Kentucky's Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees. He said roads are littered with fallen trees and people shivering in bone-chilling cold are in need. "We've got people out in some areas we haven't even visited yet," Smith said. "We don't even know that they're alive." Smith said FEMA was still a no-show days after the storm. "I'm not saying we can't handle it," Smith said. "We're handling it. But it sure would have made life a lot easier." FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak said some agency workers had begun working Friday in Kentucky and more help was on the way. Hudak said FEMA also has shipped 50 to 100 generators to the state to supply electricity to such facilities as hospitals, nursing homes and water treatment plants. "We have plenty of folks ready to go, but there are some limitations with roads closed and icy conditions," she noted. >From Missouri to Ohio, thousands were waiting in shelters for the power to return. Others were trying to tough it out at home. In Poplar Bluff, Mo., a man used a barbecue grill inside to cook and keep warm, deputy police chief Jeff Rolland said. "Luckily, one of our volunteers was in a position to see what he was doing and inform him of the carbon monoxide dangers of using a charcoal grill inside a residence," Rolland said. The storm that began in the Midwest had been blamed or suspected in at least 42 deaths, including 11 in Kentucky, nine in Arkansas, six each in Texas and Missouri, three in Virginia, two each in Oklahoma, Indiana and West Virginia and one in Ohio. Most were blamed on hypothermia, traffic accidents and carbon monoxide poisoning. President Barack Obama on Friday declared a federal emergency for Missouri, making the state eligible for federal funds even as power outages lingered in much of the southern portion of the state. In Kentucky, Gov. Steve Beshear said crews were working around the clock to restore power and get food and water to needed areas. "We are pulling out all the stops, using all of our resources and devoting our entire energy to this emergency and we will continue to do so until the last home has power, the last road is cleared and the last family is safe," Beshear said. Laura Howe, a spokeswoman for the American Red Cross, said the organization had opened more than 34 shelters for some 2,000 people. Doris Hemingway, 78, spent three days bundled in blankets to ward off the cold in her Leitchfield mobile home. News that it could take up to six weeks for power to be restored sent Hemingway and his husband, Bill, into a shelter at a local high school. "I'd pray awhile and I'd cry awhile," Doris Hemingway said. "It's the worst I've ever seen." --- Associated Press writers Roger Alford in Leitchfield; Dylan T. Lovan, Rebecca Yonker, Brett Barrouquere and Janet Cappiello Blake in Louisville; Betsy Taylor in St. Louis; and Randall Dickerson in Nashville, Tenn., contributed to this report.

Morning All, Power is on one minute, the next it is gone. Did not know my phone was working until my sister called to check on us,parts of Kentucky is being called a Disaster Area, Daviess County, where I live at,Muhlenberg County, where my sister lives at , will not have power back on for any where from 3 weeks to 6 weeks.Hopkins County, really dreadful,Ohio County, and so many others are completely without power and will not be back on for weeks.Ice every where, trees falling from all the ice on them, homes destroyed because of trees falling on them. no place to go for many families, some of the Red Cross are beginning to check on some of the elderly to make sure they are safe , have food, and are warm.Some have no one to check on them, so if you have a neighbor who you thinks needs help, check on them, I have heat, I cook by gas, so I can turn my oven on for heat, we can also cook,but - the stores are all closed as well as the service stations ...so people are going out of state to buy gas and fuel for their generators , those that have them , that is. My sister had to drive all the way to Tennessee to buy gas, she had to, she is a nurse and as we all know at times like this we sure need all the help they can provide for the ones who need it. I could have went to a shelter,but prefer to stay here at home,with me just having surgery,I don't need to be out in the public with my throat cut - can't you just see all those people asking questions and staring at me(SMILE) It is really bad !!! Take Care and Stay Warm. Connie *In Beautiful Western Kentucky* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <dutchtreat@prodigy.net> To: <Kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Nearly 1M still without power in ice storm's wake : This news about last week's ice storm in Kentucky reminds me of Hurricane Katrina. What is the response from FEMA? : : How is Connie and her family doing---do they have power yet? : : "Utility crews renewed work in subfreezing temperatures Saturday in their effort to put the power back on for nearly a million customers left in the dark by an ice storm that crippled parts of several states this week. : Thousands of people in ice-caked Kentucky awoke in motels and shelters, asked to leave their homes by authorities who said emergency teams in some areas were too strapped to reach everyone in need of food, water and warmth. : : A 20-degree temperature boost was forecast across much of the region, a boon to the power crews but one that carried with it the threat of flooding. : : Dozens of deaths have been reported and many people are pleading for a faster response to the power outages. About 536,000 homes and businesses across Kentucky were without power, down from more than 600,000 the largest outage in state history, surpassing the damage last year from the remnants of Hurricane Ike. : : The outages disabled water systems in much of the western part of the state, where some in rural areas resorted to dipping buckets in a creek. Authorities warned it could be days or weeks before power was restored in the most remote spots. : : That uncertainty had many appealing for help. Officials issued curfews Friday and urged those in dark homes to leave. : : "We're asking people to pack a suitcase and head south and find a motel if they have the means, because we can't service everybody in our shelter," said Crittenden County Judge-Executive Fred Brown, who oversees about 9,000 people, many of whom spent a fifth night sleeping in the town's elementary school. : : Local officials grew angrier at what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. : : In Kentucky's Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees. He said roads are littered with fallen trees and people shivering in bone-chilling cold are in need. : : : "We've got people out in some areas we haven't even visited yet," Smith said. "We don't even know that they're alive." : : Smith said FEMA was still a no-show days after the storm. : : "I'm not saying we can't handle it," Smith said. "We're handling it. But it sure would have made life a lot easier." : : FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak said some agency workers had begun working Friday in Kentucky and more help was on the way. Hudak said FEMA also has shipped 50 to 100 generators to the state to supply electricity to such facilities as hospitals, nursing homes and water treatment plants. : : "We have plenty of folks ready to go, but there are some limitations with roads closed and icy conditions," she noted. : : >From Missouri to Ohio, thousands were waiting in shelters for the power to return. Others were trying to tough it out at home. : : In Poplar Bluff, Mo., a man used a barbecue grill inside to cook and keep warm, deputy police chief Jeff Rolland said. : : "Luckily, one of our volunteers was in a position to see what he was doing and inform him of the carbon monoxide dangers of using a charcoal grill inside a residence," Rolland said. : : The storm that began in the Midwest had been blamed or suspected in at least 42 deaths, including 11 in Kentucky, nine in Arkansas, six each in Texas and Missouri, three in Virginia, two each in Oklahoma, Indiana and West Virginia and one in Ohio. Most were blamed on hypothermia, traffic accidents and carbon monoxide poisoning. : : President Barack Obama on Friday declared a federal emergency for Missouri, making the state eligible for federal funds even as power outages lingered in much of the southern portion of the state. : : In Kentucky, Gov. Steve Beshear said crews were working around the clock to restore power and get food and water to needed areas. : : "We are pulling out all the stops, using all of our resources and devoting our entire energy to this emergency and we will continue to do so until the last home has power, the last road is cleared and the last family is safe," Beshear said. : : Laura Howe, a spokeswoman for the American Red Cross, said the organization had opened more than 34 shelters for some 2,000 people. : : Doris Hemingway, 78, spent three days bundled in blankets to ward off the cold in her Leitchfield mobile home. News that it could take up to six weeks for power to be restored sent Hemingway and his husband, Bill, into a shelter at a local high school. : : "I'd pray awhile and I'd cry awhile," Doris Hemingway said. "It's the worst I've ever seen." : : --- : : Associated Press writers Roger Alford in Leitchfield; Dylan T. Lovan, Rebecca Yonker, Brett Barrouquere and Janet Cappiello Blake in Louisville; Betsy Taylor in St. Louis; and Randall Dickerson in Nashville, Tenn., contributed to this report.

I sent this to Sue to see if this is better. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Kincaid" <larryk34@gmail.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >I would have no clue about how to conduct a vetting of my line back to > Thomas/Mary Mackey and Robert/Margaret Doherty. All of the information > about my genealogy comes from Alice and her sister. In fact, without > their > incredible hard work over a lifetime, I would not be able to get past my > great grandfather. In all likelihood, I would not even be participating > on > this web site if I had not stumbled upon Alice's records on the web. And > she continues to expand that knowledge base. I cannot thank her enough. > > This is a long way of saying that I cannot do it, or if I did, I would > merely turn over Alice's data base. Alice certainly has my permission and > encouragement to do the vetting, whatever is required. I would be happy > to > help in any way that I can. My "missing link" to her records was overcome > when the bible record of my great grandfather's birth showed up in Adams > County, Ohio. The fact that a 37-marker match has just turned up for me > suggests that Alice's records are correct, at least back to Samuel and > Thomas b. 1755. But #139833 may be relying on Alice's records to get > back > to Samuel too. I have not seen #139833's list of known ancestors yet. > So, > what exactly would be required for Alice and us to complete the > vetting? Her records are already available on her web site. Don (Larry) > Kincaid, Group C-2 #16491. > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Alice Gedge <adgedge@burgoyne.com> wrote: > >> Sue, >> >> I hesitate to do so, because none of them are my line, and I haven't been >> asked to do so. But they are certainly welcome to use our information. >> >> >> Alice >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >> > Thanks Alice. Any chance of getting a vetting post for the line? >> > >> > Sue >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:53 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> > >> > >> >> Perhaps this will help for 79672 >> >> >> >> >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 >> >> >> >> 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. >> >> >> >> Alice Gedge >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >> >> >> >>> If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey instead >> of >> >>> a >> >>> son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then >> >>> indeed, >> >>> Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational >> >>> variance. >> >>> At >> >>> one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to >> >>> Thomas/Mary >> >>> Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I >> >>> will >> >>> gladly indicate that on the chart. >> >>> >> >>> Sue >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Sue, >> >>>> >> >>>> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in our >> >>>> group >> >>>> C >> >>>> set 2. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> This is what I have in my records: >> >>>> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> >> >>>> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> >> >>>> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary >> >>>> Mackey, >> >>>> and >> >>>> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that >> the >> >>>> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? >> >>>> >> >>>> Alice Gedge >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> >>>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM >> >>>> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His >> >>>>> results >> >>>>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has >> >>>>> a >> >>>>> 35 >> >>>>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who >> believes >> >>>>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA >> through >> >>>>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from Samuel >> of >> >>>>> PA >> >>>>> b >> >>>>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son >> >>>>> Thomas >> >>>>> is >> >>>>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through >> >>>>> son >> >>>>> ?) >> >>>>> who >> >>>>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single >> >>>>> mutation >> >>>>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. >> >>>>> 1) >> >>>>> If >> >>>>> all >> >>>>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this >> >>>>> variance >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of >> >>>>> Thomas/Mary >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the >> >>>>> same >> >>>>> son >> >>>>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the >> >>>>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as >> >>>>> CDYa >> >>>>> is >> >>>>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 >> >>>>> Kincaids >> >>>>> open. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sue Liedtke >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >>>>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>>> >> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >>>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have sent Alice a vetting formate. Thank you Alice for volunteering to work with Don (Larry). Anyone else who wants one please contact me off list at seleaml@actionnet.net It works best if I work with you to present to the list the best possible arguement for the linkages in the clearest most easy to follow form. Please include your kit number and group/set in any message to me so I can quickly identify who I am talking with. New participants to the DNA project are few. We probably are feeling the effects of the economic downturn. I would like to use this lull to confirm what we do know and fill in any blanks in the chart. I do not have contact information for #124250, 130207, 93625, 98268, 88507, 16596, 4749, 101854, 39227, and 1258. Some of the foregoing may not wish to have contact information on the chart, in other instances it may be an oversight. I do need express permission to put names and/or email addresseses on the chart. Please contact me off list if you wish to have contact information on the chart or need to change the email address now on the chart. I have no ancestor information for 124250, 98268, N38236, and N16412. Group A-1a has 18 unvetted ancestors, A-1b five, A-1c two, A-2a four, A-2b six, A-4 five. Group B has 2 unvetted ancestors. Group C-1 has no vetted ancestors. Group C-2 has 11 unvetted ancestors. Group D has 1 unvetted ancestor. None of the other groupings have any vetted ancestors. Vetting serves 2 purposes. It confirms that the DNA is that of the stated ancestor and allows others to make possible connections to your line. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > Don (Larry), > I will be happy to help you. > > Alice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Kincaid" <larryk34@gmail.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > >>I would have no clue about how to conduct a vetting of my line back to >> Thomas/Mary Mackey and Robert/Margaret Doherty. All of the information >> about my genealogy comes from Alice and her sister. In fact, without >> their >> incredible hard work over a lifetime, I would not be able to get past my >> great grandfather. In all likelihood, I would not even be participating >> on >> this web site if I had not stumbled upon Alice's records on the web. And >> she continues to expand that knowledge base. I cannot thank her enough. >> >> This is a long way of saying that I cannot do it, or if I did, I would >> merely turn over Alice's data base. Alice certainly has my permission >> and >> encouragement to do the vetting, whatever is required. I would be happy >> to >> help in any way that I can. My "missing link" to her records was >> overcome >> when the bible record of my great grandfather's birth showed up in Adams >> County, Ohio. The fact that a 37-marker match has just turned up for me >> suggests that Alice's records are correct, at least back to Samuel and >> Thomas b. 1755. But #139833 may be relying on Alice's records to get >> back >> to Samuel too. I have not seen #139833's list of known ancestors yet. >> So, >> what exactly would be required for Alice and us to complete the >> vetting? Her records are already available on her web site. Don (Larry) >> Kincaid, Group C-2 #16491. >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Alice Gedge <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sue, >>> >>> I hesitate to do so, because none of them are my line, and I haven't >>> been >>> asked to do so. But they are certainly welcome to use our information. >>> >>> >>> Alice >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> >>> >>> > Thanks Alice. Any chance of getting a vetting post for the line? >>> > >>> > Sue >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >>> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:53 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> > >>> > >>> >> Perhaps this will help for 79672 >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 >>> >> >>> >> 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. >>> >> >>> >> Alice Gedge >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM >>> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey >>> >>> instead >>> of >>> >>> a >>> >>> son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then >>> >>> indeed, >>> >>> Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational >>> >>> variance. >>> >>> At >>> >>> one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to >>> >>> Thomas/Mary >>> >>> Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I >>> >>> will >>> >>> gladly indicate that on the chart. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >>> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> >>> Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> >>> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Sue, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in >>> >>>> our >>> >>>> group >>> >>>> C >>> >>>> set 2. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> This is what I have in my records: >>> >>>> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> >>>> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> >>>> >>> >>>> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> >>>> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary >>> >>>> Mackey, >>> >>>> and >>> >>>> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that >>> the >>> >>>> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Alice Gedge >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> >>>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM >>> >>>> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His >>> >>>>> results >>> >>>>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has >>> >>>>> a >>> >>>>> 35 >>> >>>>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who >>> believes >>> >>>>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA >>> through >>> >>>>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from >>> >>>>> Samuel >>> of >>> >>>>> PA >>> >>>>> b >>> >>>>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son >>> >>>>> Thomas >>> >>>>> is >>> >>>>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through >>> >>>>> son >>> >>>>> ?) >>> >>>>> who >>> >>>>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single >>> >>>>> mutation >>> >>>>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. >>> >>>>> 1) >>> >>>>> If >>> >>>>> all >>> >>>>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this >>> >>>>> variance >>> >>>>> and >>> >>>>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of >>> >>>>> Thomas/Mary >>> >>>>> and >>> >>>>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the >>> >>>>> same >>> >>>>> son >>> >>>>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the >>> >>>>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as >>> >>>>> CDYa >>> >>>>> is >>> >>>>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 >>> >>>>> Kincaids >>> >>>>> open. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >>>>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>>> >>> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >>>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> > >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would have no clue about how to conduct a vetting of my line back to Thomas/Mary Mackey and Robert/Margaret Doherty. All of the information about my genealogy comes from Alice and her sister. In fact, without their incredible hard work over a lifetime, I would not be able to get past my great grandfather. In all likelihood, I would not even be participating on this web site if I had not stumbled upon Alice's records on the web. And she continues to expand that knowledge base. I cannot thank her enough. This is a long way of saying that I cannot do it, or if I did, I would merely turn over Alice's data base. Alice certainly has my permission and encouragement to do the vetting, whatever is required. I would be happy to help in any way that I can. My "missing link" to her records was overcome when the bible record of my great grandfather's birth showed up in Adams County, Ohio. The fact that a 37-marker match has just turned up for me suggests that Alice's records are correct, at least back to Samuel and Thomas b. 1755. But #139833 may be relying on Alice's records to get back to Samuel too. I have not seen #139833's list of known ancestors yet. So, what exactly would be required for Alice and us to complete the vetting? Her records are already available on her web site. Don (Larry) Kincaid, Group C-2 #16491. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Alice Gedge <adgedge@burgoyne.com> wrote: > Sue, > > I hesitate to do so, because none of them are my line, and I haven't been > asked to do so. But they are certainly welcome to use our information. > > > Alice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > > > Thanks Alice. Any chance of getting a vetting post for the line? > > > > Sue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:53 AM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > > > > >> Perhaps this will help for 79672 > >> > >> > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 > >> > >> 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. > >> > >> Alice Gedge > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM > >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > >> > >> > >>> If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey instead > of > >>> a > >>> son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then > >>> indeed, > >>> Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational variance. > >>> At > >>> one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to Thomas/Mary > >>> Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I > >>> will > >>> gladly indicate that on the chart. > >>> > >>> Sue > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> > >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > >>> Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> > >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > >>> > >>> > >>>> Sue, > >>>> > >>>> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in our > >>>> group > >>>> C > >>>> set 2. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This is what I have in my records: > >>>> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey > >>>> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey > >>>> > >>>> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey > >>>> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey > >>>> > >>>> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary Mackey, > >>>> and > >>>> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that > the > >>>> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? > >>>> > >>>> Alice Gedge > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > >>>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM > >>>> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His > >>>>> results > >>>>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has a > >>>>> 35 > >>>>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who > believes > >>>>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA > through > >>>>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from Samuel > of > >>>>> PA > >>>>> b > >>>>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son Thomas > >>>>> is > >>>>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through son > >>>>> ?) > >>>>> who > >>>>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single > >>>>> mutation > >>>>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. 1) > >>>>> If > >>>>> all > >>>>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this > >>>>> variance > >>>>> and > >>>>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of Thomas/Mary > >>>>> and > >>>>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the > >>>>> same > >>>>> son > >>>>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the > >>>>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as CDYa > >>>>> is > >>>>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 Kincaids > >>>>> open. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sue Liedtke > >>>>> > >>>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >>>>> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >>>> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >>> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Don (Larry), I will be happy to help you. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Kincaid" <larryk34@gmail.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >I would have no clue about how to conduct a vetting of my line back to > Thomas/Mary Mackey and Robert/Margaret Doherty. All of the information > about my genealogy comes from Alice and her sister. In fact, without > their > incredible hard work over a lifetime, I would not be able to get past my > great grandfather. In all likelihood, I would not even be participating > on > this web site if I had not stumbled upon Alice's records on the web. And > she continues to expand that knowledge base. I cannot thank her enough. > > This is a long way of saying that I cannot do it, or if I did, I would > merely turn over Alice's data base. Alice certainly has my permission and > encouragement to do the vetting, whatever is required. I would be happy > to > help in any way that I can. My "missing link" to her records was overcome > when the bible record of my great grandfather's birth showed up in Adams > County, Ohio. The fact that a 37-marker match has just turned up for me > suggests that Alice's records are correct, at least back to Samuel and > Thomas b. 1755. But #139833 may be relying on Alice's records to get > back > to Samuel too. I have not seen #139833's list of known ancestors yet. > So, > what exactly would be required for Alice and us to complete the > vetting? Her records are already available on her web site. Don (Larry) > Kincaid, Group C-2 #16491. > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Alice Gedge <adgedge@burgoyne.com> wrote: > >> Sue, >> >> I hesitate to do so, because none of them are my line, and I haven't been >> asked to do so. But they are certainly welcome to use our information. >> >> >> Alice >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >> > Thanks Alice. Any chance of getting a vetting post for the line? >> > >> > Sue >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:53 AM >> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> > >> > >> >> Perhaps this will help for 79672 >> >> >> >> >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 >> >> >> >> 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. >> >> >> >> Alice Gedge >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >> >> >> >>> If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey instead >> of >> >>> a >> >>> son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then >> >>> indeed, >> >>> Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational >> >>> variance. >> >>> At >> >>> one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to >> >>> Thomas/Mary >> >>> Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I >> >>> will >> >>> gladly indicate that on the chart. >> >>> >> >>> Sue >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Sue, >> >>>> >> >>>> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in our >> >>>> group >> >>>> C >> >>>> set 2. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> This is what I have in my records: >> >>>> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> >> >>>> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >>>> >> >>>> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary >> >>>> Mackey, >> >>>> and >> >>>> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that >> the >> >>>> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? >> >>>> >> >>>> Alice Gedge >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> >>>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM >> >>>> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His >> >>>>> results >> >>>>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has >> >>>>> a >> >>>>> 35 >> >>>>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who >> believes >> >>>>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA >> through >> >>>>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from Samuel >> of >> >>>>> PA >> >>>>> b >> >>>>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son >> >>>>> Thomas >> >>>>> is >> >>>>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through >> >>>>> son >> >>>>> ?) >> >>>>> who >> >>>>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single >> >>>>> mutation >> >>>>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. >> >>>>> 1) >> >>>>> If >> >>>>> all >> >>>>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this >> >>>>> variance >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of >> >>>>> Thomas/Mary >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the >> >>>>> same >> >>>>> son >> >>>>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the >> >>>>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as >> >>>>> CDYa >> >>>>> is >> >>>>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 >> >>>>> Kincaids >> >>>>> open. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sue Liedtke >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >>>>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>>> >> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >>>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Published in the Dayton Daily News on 1/28/2009 Cox Ohio Publishing, Dayton, Ohio Virgil Kincaid News Death Notice KINCAID, Virgil (b 1933) passed away at his home in Cocoa, FL on January 25, 2009 after a long battle with cancer. He served as a Marine during the Korea war. He retired from Dayton Power & Light in 1990. Virgil is survived by his wife Helen; daughters Karen Vance of Arcanum, Kim Goodman of New Carlisle and Jodi James of Melbourne, FL; brother, Kenny and sister Celia Ransom. He has 6 grandchildren & 3 great grandchildren. He was preceded in death by 1 grandson Steve and 1 great-grandson Cody. Services will be at the Zechar-Bailey Funeral Home, Greenville, OH. Visitation will be Friday, January 30, from 5-8 pm with funeral Saturday, January 31 at 10:30 AM. Donations may be sent to Hospice of Health First, Inc. Melbourne, FL.

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Sue, I hesitate to do so, because none of them are my line, and I haven't been asked to do so. But they are certainly welcome to use our information. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > Thanks Alice. Any chance of getting a vetting post for the line? > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > >> Perhaps this will help for 79672 >> >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 >> >> 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. >> >> Alice Gedge >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >>> If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey instead of >>> a >>> son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then >>> indeed, >>> Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational variance. >>> At >>> one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to Thomas/Mary >>> Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I >>> will >>> gladly indicate that on the chart. >>> >>> Sue >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> >>> >>>> Sue, >>>> >>>> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in our >>>> group >>>> C >>>> set 2. >>>> >>>> >>>> This is what I have in my records: >>>> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>>> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>>> >>>> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>>> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>>> >>>> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary Mackey, >>>> and >>>> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that the >>>> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? >>>> >>>> Alice Gedge >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM >>>> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>>> >>>> >>>>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His >>>>> results >>>>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has a >>>>> 35 >>>>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who believes >>>>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA through >>>>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from Samuel of >>>>> PA >>>>> b >>>>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. >>>>> >>>>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son Thomas >>>>> is >>>>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through son >>>>> ?) >>>>> who >>>>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single >>>>> mutation >>>>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. 1) >>>>> If >>>>> all >>>>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this >>>>> variance >>>>> and >>>>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of Thomas/Mary >>>>> and >>>>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the >>>>> same >>>>> son >>>>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the >>>>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as CDYa >>>>> is >>>>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 Kincaids >>>>> open. >>>>> >>>>> Sue Liedtke >>>>> >>>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Alice. Any chance of getting a vetting post for the line? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > Perhaps this will help for 79672 > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 > > 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. > > Alice Gedge > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > >> If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey instead of >> a >> son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then >> indeed, >> Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational variance. >> At >> one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to Thomas/Mary >> Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I will >> gladly indicate that on the chart. >> >> Sue >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >>> Sue, >>> >>> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in our >>> group >>> C >>> set 2. >>> >>> >>> This is what I have in my records: >>> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> >>> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >>> >>> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary Mackey, >>> and >>> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that the >>> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? >>> >>> Alice Gedge >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >>> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM >>> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >>> >>> >>>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His >>>> results >>>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has a 35 >>>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who believes >>>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA through >>>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from Samuel of >>>> PA >>>> b >>>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. >>>> >>>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son Thomas >>>> is >>>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through son ?) >>>> who >>>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single >>>> mutation >>>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. 1) >>>> If >>>> all >>>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this >>>> variance >>>> and >>>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of Thomas/Mary >>>> and >>>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the same >>>> son >>>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the >>>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as CDYa >>>> is >>>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 Kincaids >>>> open. >>>> >>>> Sue Liedtke >>>> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It would be wonderful if both #139833 and #16491 would go through the vetting process. The DNA results do support that they could both be sons of Thomas/Mary Mackey but verification through records would be most welcome. The PA contingent of C-2 is so close to verifiable connection to one ancestor (Robert/Margaret Doherty) that I would really like to see the paper work for all these lines completed. There may be others who can tie in if full lineage information (including siblings) is posted. I would love to work with any of you on formatting to present the clearest arguements for the connections. Please contact me off list at seleaml@actionnet.net so that I can send you a format and work with you individually. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: <IDAMADISON@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > > As my records and those of Alice and Chris show the Samuel who married > Phoebe VanPelt was the son of Thomas/Mary Mackey. Do these results seem > to > indicate that is incorrect, or does the person who took the test have his > information wrong, or do we have ours wrong? I really try to follow all > this DNA > business, but I remained confused. Since I descend from a daughter of > Thomas/Mary > Mackey, and thus I have no male Kincaids to test, I'm just watching > carefully. > Hopefully I will retire at the end of this school year, and can go back > to > doing some real research! > > I'm always glad to see more results for the C2 group! > > Ida > > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

#130629 is vetted to Thomas McDowell/Martha McNabb. Circumstantial evidence as well as the DNA points to a possible connection to Archibald or Andrew. Marcella has done a good job in relating the circumstantial evidence leading back to KY but I did want to remind everyone that her proof back to Thomas McDowell is conclusive. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert/Marcella Campbell" <campbell@comwares.net> To: <KINCAID@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: [KINCAID] DNA #130629 > My brother, Doyle E. Kincaid (#130629), recently joined the DNA project > and the results show that our family is in Group A-2b. > > I have been at an impasse at my great grandfather, Thomas McDowell Kincaid > who was born in KY in 1811. However, with the DNA results Barbara & Sue > believe he has to be the grandson of either Archibald or Andrew Kincaid > who married the Townsley sisters. > >>From recent research and info it seems that Thomas McDowell's father >>probably was ??? Kincaid who died before 1824. This unknown Kincaid >>married Margaret ???? (b. PA) probably @ 1810. They had three known >>children: Thomas McDowell b. 1811 in KY, Nancy b. 1816 in KY and >>Archibald Townsley Kincaid b. 1818 in Ohio. > > Margaret ??? Kincaid married Robert Bradshaw in 1824 in Nicholas Co. KY. > Robert probably died before 1830 when Margaret shows up in the Morgan Co., > IN census as a widow with 1 male, under 5 (probably Nelson Bradshaw), 1 > male 10-15 (probably Archibald Kincaid, age 12). Thomas married Martha > Ann McNabb (b. Ky 1916) in Morgan Co., IN on 18 Aug 1836. They are in the > Clay Co., IN census in 1840. > > Margaret ??? Kincaid Bradshaw shows up in the 1840 census in Clay Co., IN > and later in the 1850 census living with son, Archibald Kincaid and his > wife Sarah ??? in Washington Twn, Clay Co., IN. Nelson Bradshaw is living > in the same household. > > Thomas and Martha (my grgrandparents) spent the remainder of their lives > in Washington Twn, Clay Co., IN. They named their first son, Samuel and > their second son, James Edgar, after Martha's father, James Edgar McNabb. > The McNabbs moved from Montgomery Co., KY to Morgan Co., IN in 1835. > > Any help anyone can provide which might connect my Thomas to Archibald or > Andrew Kincaid who married the Townsley sisters would be very much > appreciated. > > I have info on Thomas and Martha's family down to present day. I am > willing to share anything that I have. > > Marcella Kincaid Campbell > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My brother, Doyle E. Kincaid (#130629), recently joined the DNA project and the results show that our family is in Group A-2b. I have been at an impasse at my great grandfather, Thomas McDowell Kincaid who was born in KY in 1811. However, with the DNA results Barbara & Sue believe he has to be the grandson of either Archibald or Andrew Kincaid who married the Townsley sisters. >From recent research and info it seems that Thomas McDowell's father probably was ??? Kincaid who died before 1824. This unknown Kincaid married Margaret ???? (b. PA) probably @ 1810. They had three known children: Thomas McDowell b. 1811 in KY, Nancy b. 1816 in KY and Archibald Townsley Kincaid b. 1818 in Ohio. Margaret ??? Kincaid married Robert Bradshaw in 1824 in Nicholas Co. KY. Robert probably died before 1830 when Margaret shows up in the Morgan Co., IN census as a widow with 1 male, under 5 (probably Nelson Bradshaw), 1 male 10-15 (probably Archibald Kincaid, age 12). Thomas married Martha Ann McNabb (b. Ky 1916) in Morgan Co., IN on 18 Aug 1836. They are in the Clay Co., IN census in 1840. Margaret ??? Kincaid Bradshaw shows up in the 1840 census in Clay Co., IN and later in the 1850 census living with son, Archibald Kincaid and his wife Sarah ??? in Washington Twn, Clay Co., IN. Nelson Bradshaw is living in the same household. Thomas and Martha (my grgrandparents) spent the remainder of their lives in Washington Twn, Clay Co., IN. They named their first son, Samuel and their second son, James Edgar, after Martha's father, James Edgar McNabb. The McNabbs moved from Montgomery Co., KY to Morgan Co., IN in 1835. Any help anyone can provide which might connect my Thomas to Archibald or Andrew Kincaid who married the Townsley sisters would be very much appreciated. I have info on Thomas and Martha's family down to present day. I am willing to share anything that I have. Marcella Kincaid Campbell

As my records and those of Alice and Chris show the Samuel who married Phoebe VanPelt was the son of Thomas/Mary Mackey. Do these results seem to indicate that is incorrect, or does the person who took the test have his information wrong, or do we have ours wrong? I really try to follow all this DNA business, but I remained confused. Since I descend from a daughter of Thomas/Mary Mackey, and thus I have no male Kincaids to test, I'm just watching carefully. Hopefully I will retire at the end of this school year, and can go back to doing some real research! I'm always glad to see more results for the C2 group! Ida **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Perhaps this will help for 79672 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=adgedge&id=I57454 79672 comes from John Kincaid, son of Robert/Margaret Kincaid. Alice Gedge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > If 79672 is indeed from Samuel, brother of Thomas/Mary Mackey instead of a > son of Thomas/Mary Mackey and all have their lineages correct, then > indeed, > Thomas/Mary Mackey is the most likey source of the mutational variance. At > one point I was under the impression that 79672 claimed to Thomas/Mary > Mackey. If this is not correct (as the DNA seems to indicate) then I will > gladly indicate that on the chart. > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alice Gedge" <adgedge@burgoyne.com> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Chris Kraft" <acdk3@yahoo.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:09 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 > > >> Sue, >> >> I am really interested in learning more about #139833. He is in our >> group >> C >> set 2. >> >> >> This is what I have in my records: >> 16491, John Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> 139833, Samuel Kincaid, son of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >> 79672, John Kincaid & Martha Hill, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> 44937, Samuel Kincaid & Sarah Reed, brother of Thomas & Mary Mackey >> >> Thus, 16491 & 139833 are descendants of Thomas Kincaid m. Mary Mackey, >> and >> 79672 and 44937 come through Thomas' brothers. Does that mean that the >> variance would begin with Thomas Kincaid? >> >> Alice Gedge >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:55 AM >> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 139833 >> >> >>> All results have been posted for 139833's order of 37 markers. His >>> results >>> match the AAV for Group C set 2 except at marker 34 (CDYa). He has a 35 >>> instead of the AAV 36. He shares this variance with 16491 who believes >>> decent from Robert/Margaret Doherty m 1745 of Alleghany Co. PA through >>> Robert's son Thomas/Mary Mackey. 139833 believes decent from Samuel of >>> PA >>> b >>> 1780 d 1818 m 1808 Phoebe Van Pelt. >>> >>> Also claiming descent from Robert/Margaret Doherty through son Thomas is >>> 79672 and 44937 who claims descent from Robert/Margaret (through son ?) >>> who >>> do not share the above variance. IF the variance is from a single >>> mutation >>> for both 139833 and 16491 then we have several possible scenarios. 1) If >>> all >>> are correct in their lineage then Thomas/Mary did not have this variance >>> and >>> given that there is only 35 years between the marriage of Thomas/Mary >>> and >>> the birth of Samuel, 139833 and 16491 should both descend from the same >>> son >>> of Thomas/Mary or 2) Someone's lineage is incorrect. There is the >>> possibility that the variances derive from parallel mutations as CDYa is >>> quite volatile which leaves 139833's connection to other C-2 Kincaids >>> open. >>> >>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message