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    1. Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Archives
    2. Your line might have been vetted on the List. It was Bob Arnott below who had the initial question. Ruth In a message dated 2/10/2009 10:11:17 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, kincaidfamily@qwest.net writes: Actually, I though my relative's information was vetted on the "list" but it is no problem to do it again when the time is available! -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Utahn1@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Archives Mary Lou, There is an archive now that we vet on the list. Originally, the information was emailed or snail mailed to an individual who proclaimed the person was vetted or not. If you remember someone posting the vetting information to the Mail List then yes, it would be in the archives. I am very sorry that some have to go through the painful process or re-doing some work, but I am afraid it cannot be helped. Vetting on the List started a few years ago and this was an excellent move. Now more people are involved and the more eyes that look at something the more chance that we see errors or receive more suggestions as to how to further our documentation. Or, as sometimes happens, the chances increase in our finding connections with cousins. Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 2/9/2009 1:35:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, mlclegg@verizon.net writes: Isn't there an archive of documents that are submitted for vetting? Mary Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. > I'm > not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her > the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information > I > understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia > and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Sue Liedtke > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the > group > A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. > > This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and > has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary > Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for > 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the > archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting > format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a > vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 > (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line > of > paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be > verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel > mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it > is possible that this marker has mutated several times. > > The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all > Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most > logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, > Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey > (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted > to). > The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of > Samuel > of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, > 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to > be > the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the > son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to > Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. > > SPECULATION FOLLOWS > We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st > in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many > other > A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or > descendents of a brother or cousin. > > Sue Liedtke > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/10/2009 07:10:43
    1. Re: [KINCAID] vetting ????????
    2. Bob Arnott
    3. Glad to know> I thought I might be in line for one of them fancy government jobs by vetting! -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Utahn1@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:01 PM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KINCAID] vetting ???????? Below is the link to the Wikipedia definition of vetting. The word vetting is a whole lot shorter than always saying doing an examination of the paperwork and sources to see if someone really can claim a certain person as an ancestor. Without the vetting process, we get all those phony lineages we see online. The term vetting is very much being used in the news these days. People are currently wondering what happened to the vetting process on some of Obama's cabinet choices. Those choices were vetted by a committee of people asking questions etc., but unfortunately some critical questions must not have been asked. Bottom line is vetting is English and on many of the Lists I belong to, it's always used. It's a term for genealogy which becomes familiar the longer you are in genealogy. Before DNA I'd never heard the term but now I do know what it is. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetting_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetting) Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 2/9/2009 7:39:29 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, junioramsey@hotmail.com writes: EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. I'mnot sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie Bob, sure glad you asked, been wondering myself what the heck is this 'vetting' all about? I've been the admin since 2002 for our paternal dna project also member of ISOGG and on the ISOGG admin yahoo group & the DNA yahoo group, and never NOT ONCE ever heard this used and there are some high class admin way smart ones there. It sounds really weird to me. why not just say whatever it is in plain ole english! I looked in my dictionary and it is not in there and can't find it on the FTdna site either. Never heard any of the FTdna folks use it either in all these years, must be something new come along ???? I sure am not going to use it on our dna list, the folks would think I gone bonkers I think me think. Jr To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/10/2009 03:12:25
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Archives
    2. Bob Arnott
    3. Actually, I though my relative's information was vetted on the "list" but it is no problem to do it again when the time is available! -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Utahn1@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Archives Mary Lou, There is an archive now that we vet on the list. Originally, the information was emailed or snail mailed to an individual who proclaimed the person was vetted or not. If you remember someone posting the vetting information to the Mail List then yes, it would be in the archives. I am very sorry that some have to go through the painful process or re-doing some work, but I am afraid it cannot be helped. Vetting on the List started a few years ago and this was an excellent move. Now more people are involved and the more eyes that look at something the more chance that we see errors or receive more suggestions as to how to further our documentation. Or, as sometimes happens, the chances increase in our finding connections with cousins. Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 2/9/2009 1:35:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, mlclegg@verizon.net writes: Isn't there an archive of documents that are submitted for vetting? Mary Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. > I'm > not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her > the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information > I > understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia > and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Sue Liedtke > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the > group > A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. > > This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and > has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary > Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for > 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the > archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting > format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a > vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 > (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line > of > paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be > verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel > mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it > is possible that this marker has mutated several times. > > The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all > Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most > logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, > Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey > (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted > to). > The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of > Samuel > of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, > 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to > be > the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the > son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to > Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. > > SPECULATION FOLLOWS > We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st > in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many > other > A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or > descendents of a brother or cousin. > > Sue Liedtke > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/10/2009 03:09:59
    1. Re: [KINCAID] vetting ????????
    2. Below is the link to the Wikipedia definition of vetting. The word vetting is a whole lot shorter than always saying doing an examination of the paperwork and sources to see if someone really can claim a certain person as an ancestor. Without the vetting process, we get all those phony lineages we see online. The term vetting is very much being used in the news these days. People are currently wondering what happened to the vetting process on some of Obama's cabinet choices. Those choices were vetted by a committee of people asking questions etc., but unfortunately some critical questions must not have been asked. Bottom line is vetting is English and on many of the Lists I belong to, it's always used. It's a term for genealogy which becomes familiar the longer you are in genealogy. Before DNA I'd never heard the term but now I do know what it is. _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetting_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetting) Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 2/9/2009 7:39:29 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, junioramsey@hotmail.com writes: EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. I'mnot sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie Bob, sure glad you asked, been wondering myself what the heck is this 'vetting' all about? I've been the admin since 2002 for our paternal dna project also member of ISOGG and on the ISOGG admin yahoo group & the DNA yahoo group, and never NOT ONCE ever heard this used and there are some high class admin way smart ones there. It sounds really weird to me. why not just say whatever it is in plain ole english! I looked in my dictionary and it is not in there and can't find it on the FTdna site either. Never heard any of the FTdna folks use it either in all these years, must be something new come along ???? I sure am not going to use it on our dna list, the folks would think I gone bonkers I think me think. Jr To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2009 03:00:55
    1. [KINCAID] vetting ????????
    2. Junior Ramsey
    3. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net>Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. I'mnot sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie Bob, sure glad you asked, been wondering myself what the heck is this 'vetting' all about? I've been the admin since 2002 for our paternal dna project also member of ISOGG and on the ISOGG admin yahoo group & the DNA yahoo group, and never NOT ONCE ever heard this used and there are some high class admin way smart ones there. It sounds really weird to me. why not just say whatever it is in plain ole english! I looked in my dictionary and it is not in there and can't find it on the FTdna site either. Never heard any of the FTdna folks use it either in all these years, must be something new come along ???? I sure am not going to use it on our dna list, the folks would think I gone bonkers I think me think. Jr

    02/09/2009 11:38:34
    1. [KINCAID] Vetting Archives
    2. Mary Lou, There is an archive now that we vet on the list. Originally, the information was emailed or snail mailed to an individual who proclaimed the person was vetted or not. If you remember someone posting the vetting information to the Mail List then yes, it would be in the archives. I am very sorry that some have to go through the painful process or re-doing some work, but I am afraid it cannot be helped. Vetting on the List started a few years ago and this was an excellent move. Now more people are involved and the more eyes that look at something the more chance that we see errors or receive more suggestions as to how to further our documentation. Or, as sometimes happens, the chances increase in our finding connections with cousins. Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 2/9/2009 1:35:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, mlclegg@verizon.net writes: Isn't there an archive of documents that are submitted for vetting? Mary Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. > I'm > not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her > the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information > I > understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia > and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Sue Liedtke > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the > group > A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. > > This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and > has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary > Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for > 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the > archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting > format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a > vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 > (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line > of > paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be > verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel > mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it > is possible that this marker has mutated several times. > > The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all > Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most > logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, > Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey > (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted > to). > The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of > Samuel > of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, > 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to > be > the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the > son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to > Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. > > SPECULATION FOLLOWS > We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st > in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many > other > A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or > descendents of a brother or cousin. > > Sue Liedtke >

    02/09/2009 02:24:39
    1. Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. Those vetting posts sent to the list are archived at Rootsweb. This is one of the great advantages of doing the vetting via the list. Another is that there are many eyes reviewing the line so any problems can be found and addressed. The 3rd advantage is that list members from "daughter" lines or male lines at a brick wall may be able to tie in. Vettings done while Leslie was administrator have no public paper trail as she did not share the lineages and documentation. It would be wonderful if someone with expertise and time appeared who could host a site where all the lineages could be gathered. Alice has graciously contributed valuable space on her site to make the DNA chart available. Her site is invaluable to all of her lines so we are extremally greatful that she donates part of it to help us out until we find someone who can create a site devoted to the project. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Isn't there an archive of documents that are submitted for vetting? > > Mary Lou > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:51 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > >> Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. >> I'm >> not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her >> the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information >> I >> understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia >> and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Sue Liedtke >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 >> >> Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the >> group >> A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. >> >> This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and >> has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary >> Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for >> 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the >> archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the >> vetting >> format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create >> a >> vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 >> (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line >> of >> paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be >> verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel >> mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as >> it >> is possible that this marker has mutated several times. >> >> The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all >> Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The >> most >> logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, >> Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey >> (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted >> to). >> The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of >> Samuel >> of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, >> 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to >> be >> the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the >> son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to >> Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. >> >> SPECULATION FOLLOWS >> We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears >> 1st >> in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many >> other >> A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or >> descendents of a brother or cousin. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca >> id%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2009 12:57:45
    1. Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. Leslie was the one who reviewed your linkages and decided that it was a true line. She "vetted" your line. She did not share what you submitted. Since you have a significant mutation not shared by Jo Anna's brother it would be best if everyone could review your proofs along with her line proofs. If everyone on the list agrees that both are true lines, we may be able to "ignore" your mutation in making connection to other Fayette Kincaids. It is quite expensive to isolate a mutation to a specific person, which would be the proper scientific method, so for our purposes excellant line proof may suffice. I will send you a vetting form and work with you to present the best arguement for your line. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. > I'm > not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her > the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information > I > understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia > and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Sue Liedtke > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the > group > A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. > > This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and > has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary > Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for > 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the > archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting > format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a > vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 > (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line > of > paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be > verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel > mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it > is possible that this marker has mutated several times. > > The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all > Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most > logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, > Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey > (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted > to). > The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of > Samuel > of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, > 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to > be > the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the > son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to > Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. > > SPECULATION FOLLOWS > We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st > in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many > other > A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or > descendents of a brother or cousin. > > Sue Liedtke > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/09/2009 12:30:33
    1. Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736
    2. Mary Lou Clegg
    3. Isn't there an archive of documents that are submitted for vetting? Mary Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. > I'm > not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her > the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information > I > understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia > and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Sue Liedtke > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the > group > A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. > > This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and > has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary > Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for > 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the > archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting > format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a > vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 > (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line > of > paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be > verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel > mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it > is possible that this marker has mutated several times. > > The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all > Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most > logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, > Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey > (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted > to). > The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of > Samuel > of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, > 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to > be > the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the > son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to > Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. > > SPECULATION FOLLOWS > We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st > in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many > other > A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or > descendents of a brother or cousin. > > Sue Liedtke > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/08/2009 08:34:38
    1. Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736
    2. Bob Arnott
    3. Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. I'm not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided her the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the information I understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West Virginia and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! -----Original Message----- From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Liedtke Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the group A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line of paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it is possible that this marker has mutated several times. The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted to). The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of Samuel of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to be the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. SPECULATION FOLLOWS We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many other A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or descendents of a brother or cousin. Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/08/2009 02:51:27
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Mary Lou Clegg
    3. Thanks Don, I was looking in Group A 1a. I didn't expect to find it in the undetermined group. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > Actually on the chart we just downloaded from Alice Gedge website, 135736 > is listed last in undetermined at the bottom of Group A. Perhaps your > file was not saved after you moved 135736 to Set 1c is why it does not > show up on Alice's website. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Liedtke > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > > #135736 is in Group A set 1a. I believe it is the second one from the > bottom > in that set. > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > > >I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be > > added? > > > > Mary Lou > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM > > Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > > > > >>I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was > >>quick > >> to make the change. > >> Thank you Alice. > >> > >> Sue > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/07/2009 11:43:47
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. I evidently sent the January chart to Alice. I just sent her the February one. Sorry, Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > #135736 is in Group A set 1a. I believe it is the second one from the > bottom > in that set. > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > >>I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be >> added? >> >> Mary Lou >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload >> >> >>>I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was >>>quick >>> to make the change. >>> Thank you Alice. >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 10:05:17
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. I evidently sent her the Jan chart instead of the Feb. chart.I have sent her a new one and included you in the post. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > Actually on the chart we just downloaded from Alice Gedge website, 135736 > is listed last in undetermined at the bottom of Group A. Perhaps your > file was not saved after you moved 135736 to Set 1c is why it does not > show up on Alice's website. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Liedtke > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > > #135736 is in Group A set 1a. I believe it is the second one from the > bottom > in that set. > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > > >I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be > > added? > > > > Mary Lou > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM > > Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > > > > >>I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was > >>quick > >> to make the change. > >> Thank you Alice. > >> > >> Sue > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 10:04:32
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. Oops, I evidently sent the January chart to Alice. Attached is the February chart. I have sent the Feb. chart to Alice. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > Thanks Don, > > I was looking in Group A 1a. I didn't expect to find it in the > undetermined > group. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > >> Actually on the chart we just downloaded from Alice Gedge website, 135736 >> is listed last in undetermined at the bottom of Group A. Perhaps your >> file was not saved after you moved 135736 to Set 1c is why it does not >> show up on Alice's website. >> >> Don >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sue Liedtke >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload >> >> >> #135736 is in Group A set 1a. I believe it is the second one from the >> bottom >> in that set. >> >> Sue >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> >> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload >> >> >> >I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be >> > added? >> > >> > Mary Lou >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> >> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM >> > Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload >> > >> > >> >>I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was >> >>quick >> >> to make the change. >> >> Thank you Alice. >> >> >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 10:03:46
    1. Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. Go ahead and forward anything you want to the WVA group. I have attached a vetting format. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toney Kincaid" <tkincaid1@triad.rr.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Sue, > > I did contact Jo Anna and she is anxious to get her part done. She wanted > a > sample to go by in her vetting. I am looking for the old copy I had on > Harvey Kincaid for her to go by. I am still looking for it. > > The reason I am writing to you is to ask you if we could not keep these ( > your) posting on the West Virginia Kincaid group. Most of the people on > our > list is not part of the larger K-list. This may show them just how > important > it is to help us in the DNA project. > > Thanks, > > Toney K. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:50 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > >> Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the >> group >> A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. >> >> This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and >> has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary >> Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for >> 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the >> archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the >> vetting >> format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create >> a >> vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 >> (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line >> of >> paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be >> verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel >> mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as >> it >> is possible that this marker has mutated several times. >> >> The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all >> Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The >> most >> logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, >> Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey >> (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted >> to). >> The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of >> Samuel >> of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, >> 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to >> be >> the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the >> son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to >> Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. >> >> SPECULATION FOLLOWS >> We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears >> 1st >> in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many >> other >> A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or >> descendents of a brother or cousin. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 10:01:36
    1. Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736
    2. Toney Kincaid
    3. Sue, I did contact Jo Anna and she is anxious to get her part done. She wanted a sample to go by in her vetting. I am looking for the old copy I had on Harvey Kincaid for her to go by. I am still looking for it. The reason I am writing to you is to ask you if we could not keep these ( your) posting on the West Virginia Kincaid group. Most of the people on our list is not part of the larger K-list. This may show them just how important it is to help us in the DNA project. Thanks, Toney K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the > group > A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. > > This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids and > has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to George/Mary > Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for > 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the > archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the vetting > format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can create a > vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker 15 > (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his line > of > paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be > verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel > mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids as it > is possible that this marker has mutated several times. > > The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all > Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The most > logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, > Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey > (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted > to). > The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of > Samuel > of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, > 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear to > be > the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be the > son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back to > Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. > > SPECULATION FOLLOWS > We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears 1st > in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many > other > A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or > descendents of a brother or cousin. > > Sue Liedtke > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 09:39:36
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Don W. Kincaid
    3. Actually on the chart we just downloaded from Alice Gedge website, 135736 is listed last in undetermined at the bottom of Group A. Perhaps your file was not saved after you moved 135736 to Set 1c is why it does not show up on Alice's website. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liedtke To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload #135736 is in Group A set 1a. I believe it is the second one from the bottom in that set. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload >I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be > added? > > Mary Lou > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > >>I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was >>quick >> to make the change. >> Thank you Alice. >> >> Sue >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 04:51:56
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Sue Liedtke
    3. #135736 is in Group A set 1a. I believe it is the second one from the bottom in that set. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <mlclegg@verizon.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload >I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be > added? > > Mary Lou > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload > > >>I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was >>quick >> to make the change. >> Thank you Alice. >> >> Sue >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/07/2009 01:19:44
    1. Re: [KINCAID] Chart upload
    2. Mary Lou Clegg
    3. I didn't find #135736 in the revised chart. When will those results be added? Mary Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <seleaml@actionnet.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: [KINCAID] Chart upload >I sent Alice an updated chart to post on her website. As usual she was >quick > to make the change. > Thank you Alice. > > Sue > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/06/2009 06:30:38
    1. Re: [KINCAID] family research funny
    2. Sarah Kincaid
    3. Don, Very Interesting. Sarah > From: donwkincaid@cox.net> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:09:40 -0700> Subject: [KINCAID] family research funny> > Hopefully I am not out of line for posting this one but thought Kincaid researchers would get a kick out of it. This appeared in our local paper in Texas and is by a lady we know. > > This Happens to be the truth. Of my "in-law" family, consisting of eight living children, one married a Baer, one a Fish, one a Pigg, and one a Campbell (pronounced camel) . They didn't stop with animals, but went on with another marrying a Bald-ridge, and another a White-acre, and the last married a One-a-Camp. However there is still one single and he's keeping company with a Muskgrave, which is almost Muskrat, isn't it? Oh yes, I also have an uncle named Chester White.> > THE PIGG IN-LAW> Twila Pigg Lee> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel:> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Liveā„¢: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009

    02/06/2009 04:49:03