I would think it would be possible for someone to assume someone's name in order to escape however in John's case several of the messages in the Kincaid Archives for 2000 through 2002 give very detailed information of this John of Chalcarroch being arrested, where he was detained in several locations in Scotland, court records and finally being loaded on the Henry and Francis ship so likely not a possibility for him. His arrival in NJ in Dec. 1685 makes him a possible ancestor of several Kincaid lines, including my own. Some of the messages gave info that John's wife and children escaped to N. Ireland and later went to the Colonies to join John which makes finding what happened to him more intriguing. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Utahn1@aol.com To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of the Henry and Francis ship,Leith to NJ 1685 Is it possible that someone who wanted to escape the British Isles might have assumed a name that was not theirs? And then upon landing s/he would again take their real name? This could be another confounding possibility. Ruth In a message dated 2/12/2009 9:34:30 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, donwkincaid@cox.net writes: Thanks Norman! We checked the indexes for The Genealogical Society of New Jersey and found no Kincaid's of any spelling. This included their Emigrant Register which list those who left NJ for other places. We are sending them a research request for other of their collections that were not searchable online. We also reviewed the Kincaid List archives for all posts regarding this John and find nothing concrete other than what you state that he arrived and disembarked in NJ. Don W. Kincaid ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman Kincaide To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of the Henry and Francis ship,Leith to NJ 1685 Hi, Don, In all of my travels to Pennsylvania, to Chester, York, Lancaster, Cumberland or Philadelphia, I never come across anything indicating that John Kincaid who boarded the Henry & Francis, ever went to Pennsylvania. I have never seen any connection to the Chester County, PA Kincaids. I have never found any evidence other than he survived the voyage and was on the list of survivors who debarked at Perth Amboy, NJ. The supposed lineage went from Thomas Kincaid (DNA Group C) who married Mary Mackey to the Kincaids (DNA Group A, set 1b) of Chester County, PA then to John Kincaid of the Henry & Francis. There is no evidence to indicate this was a possible valid lineage. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:37:26 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of the Henry and Francis ship, Leith to NJ 1685 This John Kincaid was transported against his wishes for not signing an oath of allegiance to the King of Scotland in 1685 on board the Henry and Francis ship which unloaded the surviving passengers at Perth Amboy, East New Jersey. There was a vigorous discussion about this John in March, 2004 on the Kincaid List consisting of 25 posts I just now reviewed. I found no one could prove with documentation where this John went to from NJ although there were several possibilities proposed. Has anyone discovered any documentation on John of the Henry & Francis since 2004? Thanks, Don W. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.g enealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb..com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>>> gregndebbypotter@aol.com 2/11/2009 6:43 PM >>> In the future, when you all are wanting to share documentation, might I suggest that you post it on the Kincaid facebook group?? :) Debby -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clegg <Mclegg@acpl.lib.in.us> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 1:08 pm Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Our library has the book Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the U.S.A. by Donald Whyte pub. 1972 by Magna Carta Book Co. of Baltimore MD. I'm going to scan the page of Kincaids and send to Don. The info on John simply states: "Kincaid, John. To Virginia before 4 May 1743, when admitted burgess and guildbrother of Edinburgh. (B.G.E.)" I'd gladly scan and send to the group, but I am unsure if attachments like that go through. Can someone enlighten me? Michael >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 12:14 PM >>> I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA. xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Norman! We checked the indexes for The Genealogical Society of New Jersey and found no Kincaid's of any spelling. This included their Emigrant Register which list those who left NJ for other places. We are sending them a research request for other of their collections that were not searchable online. We also reviewed the Kincaid List archives for all posts regarding this John and find nothing concrete other than what you state that he arrived and disembarked in NJ. Don W. Kincaid ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman Kincaide To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of the Henry and Francis ship,Leith to NJ 1685 Hi, Don, In all of my travels to Pennsylvania, to Chester, York, Lancaster, Cumberland or Philadelphia, I never come across anything indicating that John Kincaid who boarded the Henry & Francis, ever went to Pennsylvania. I have never seen any connection to the Chester County, PA Kincaids. I have never found any evidence other than he survived the voyage and was on the list of survivors who debarked at Perth Amboy, NJ. The supposed lineage went from Thomas Kincaid (DNA Group C) who married Mary Mackey to the Kincaids (DNA Group A, set 1b) of Chester County, PA then to John Kincaid of the Henry & Francis. There is no evidence to indicate this was a possible valid lineage. Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:37:26 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of the Henry and Francis ship, Leith to NJ 1685 This John Kincaid was transported against his wishes for not signing an oath of allegiance to the King of Scotland in 1685 on board the Henry and Francis ship which unloaded the surviving passengers at Perth Amboy, East New Jersey. There was a vigorous discussion about this John in March, 2004 on the Kincaid List consisting of 25 posts I just now reviewed. I found no one could prove with documentation where this John went to from NJ although there were several possibilities proposed. Has anyone discovered any documentation on John of the Henry & Francis since 2004? Thanks, Don W. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb..com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My work day today is nuts and not much better tomorrow, but I'll go look up what the references stand for some time soon. The one I did check yesterday (K.F.R.) stands for "Kincaid Family Researches" held by the Scottish Genealogical Society. My assumption is the SGS in Scotland, but who knows. There was 1 David Kyncade spelling on the 2nd page which seemed to be a dup. of a listing on the first page spelled Kincaid, only it mentions a son David res. in KY. >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 5:12 PM >>> Michael, Received the pages in good shape! Thanks mighty much! There are 10 Kincaid men listed on Page 192. No Kinkeads or other spellings. 1 David, 1 George, 3 James, 2 John, 1 Robert & 2 Samuel I assume the initials and numbers in parentheses refer to where Whyte found the information. Does the introduction tell what (K.F.R.), (N.R.), (S.H.), (R.P.C.) & (B.G.E.) stand for? Google maps shows the area called Edinburgh at the southern end of Chesapeake Bay almost to NC state line but there doesn't seem to be an actual incorporated town by that name in VA. I just received a note from Randy Kincaid who tells me the LDS library in Mesa has this book and lots of others so will be visiting it soon. The other local LDS churches we have visited had very limited resources so had not checked Mesa. Don W. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Clegg To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Our library has the book Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the U.S.A. by Donald Whyte pub. 1972 by Magna Carta Book Co. of Baltimore MD. I'm going to scan the page of Kincaids and send to Don. The info on John simply states: "Kincaid, John. To Virginia before 4 May 1743, when admitted burgess and guildbrother of Edinburgh. (B.G.E.)" I'd gladly scan and send to the group, but I am unsure if attachments like that go through. Can someone enlighten me? Michael >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 12:14 PM >>> I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We have done a review of 119921's vetting post and it looks like every generation is documented enough to warrant marking it as vetted. I also reviewed 37382's vetting post since Shirley Patchen also is likely descendant of John of Sadsbury and her information does not conflict with Chuck's. We do believe both are descendants of John of Sadsbury and are looking forward to vetting them to him. Don W. Kincaid #1427, Group A, Set 1b Kincaid DNA Project Eastland, Texas, USA Hugh Alvin Kincaid, died 1989 & Flora Elizabeth Branscum Hugh Allen Kincaid, died 1922 & Louisa Short David Greer Kincaid, died 1798 & Betty Allen William Moore Kincaid, died 1870? & Druscilla David Greer Kincaid, died 1840 & Isabel Rogers John Kincaid d. 1792 & Margaret Jane? Lockhart? Joseph Kincaid/Kinkead died 1774 & ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liedtke To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Charles Kincaid (119921,Gp A Set 1b) Amended Vetting to Samuel Kincai d of Fawn Pa I urge everyone to take a moment to review this vetting post connecting 119921 to Samuel Kincaid of Fawn PA. Please let the list know if there are any questions regarding the line. It would also be nice to know if you think this is a true line. I will wait a week and ask again for comments before marking this line as vetted. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Kincaid" <ccckincaid@netzero.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ccckincaid@verizon.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Charles Kincaid (119921,Gp A Set 1b) Amended Vetting to Samuel Kincai d of Fawn Pa Ruth, I have amended my original vetting submission that tracked back to John Kinkead of Sadsbury Pa and I am submitting this revised vetting to Samuel Kincaid of Fawn Township Pa. Samuel, I believe, is the son of John. As more facts are uncovered linking Samuel to John, I will update this vetting. Thank you. Chuck =================================================================== Charles Vernon Kincaid to Samuel Kincaid of Fawn Township PA DNA # 119921, Gp A Set 1b<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930 Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller Proven by: Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles Vernon Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, MD, on September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks. (In my possession) Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles’s numerous accomplishments and civic works over the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois Kincaid as his wife Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they acknowledged me as their son and/or nephew ___________________________________________________ Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), b Baltimore, MD, Oct 29, 1882 d Dec 2, 1950. m Towson MD Sept 12, 1926 Lois M Miller Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer Proven by: “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, and marriages of Kincaid/Baer family from 1855 onward. Charles’s birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my possession. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and death dates as above 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city Frank Kincaid, husband, age 48 MD mother born England Delphine, wife, age 45 PA Charles V, son, age 17 MD James W, son, age 14 MD George C, son, age 12 PA Sophie A, daughter age 9 PA Carroll L, son age 6, MD Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of Bryansville, York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in Bryansville, PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D. Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara Kincaid (Frank’s sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files. Obituary from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. Kincaid and plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Surviving children: Charles V. George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L. Frank W. and Mary D. (who died May 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) along with Frank’s unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie’s son, James Wallace who died age 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, January 13, 1881. (In my possession) Life knowledge: I knew my father’s sister and two brothers and they acknowledged him as their sibling ________________________________________________ Frank Wallace Kincaid, b Baltimore, MD, Jan 25, 1856, d Feb 22, 1908 m Jan 13, 1881 Mary Delphine Baer Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave Proven by: “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid family from 1855 onward. Frank’s birthday given as January 25, 1856 Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with birth and death dates as above Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, James Kincaid and Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706 18th ward James R. Kincaide , age 40, MD Emma (Anna) age 37 Eng Clara age 7 MD Frank, age 4 MD Ida age 1 MD Baltimore Directory for 1860 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, MD. James R., Anna, Clara, Frank W., and Idah V. (Files of Baltimore Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living at various residences in Baltimore during these years. (Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore Md) Gravestones in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD James R. Kincaid’s date of birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, age 75, died February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, one is noted as “child of James R. Kincaid” (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. Baltimore, Md) Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an elderly couple, circa 1885, (in my possession). ________________________________________ James R. Kincaid b Baltimore, MD, Aug 20, 1816 d Baltimore MD Nov 21, 1887. m Baltimore, MD Nov 24,1852 Anna Cave Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall Proven by Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. Kincaid’s birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. (Certified Copy, Baltimore City Health Department) September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George Roberts. (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society records, Baltimore, MD) U. S. Federal Census of 1830 pg 189 Ward 4 of Baltimore City James Kincaid One male 50-60 one male 5-10 one male 10-15 one female 50-60 one female 20-30 one female 15-20 one female 10-15 one female 5-10 First Methodist Episcopal Church Light St. church records. Marriages: Ann Kincaid and George Sanders, 7 June 1832 by Rev. J. Frye Cecelia Kincaid and Isaac Wentz, 17 February 1838 by Rev. J. Frye Amelia E. Kincaid and Frederick Amos, 27 October 1845 by Rev. W. M. Evans James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave, 24 November 1852 by unreadable. Baltimore American announcement of 15 June 1832 announced marriage of Ann Kincaid, daughter of James Kincaid, to George Sanders, tea merchant of Baltimore. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of September 15, 1832, “James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on September 7.” (Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial Ground in Baltimore. James and his wife Barbara were reinterred on July 2, 1877 in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old North Burial Ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of Baltimore. James was reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. (Personal Visit to Greenmount Cemetery) US Federal Census 1840 Baltimore, MD 12th ward Barbay Kinkaid, age 50 to 60, two males, age 15 to 20, one male, 20 to 30 (who I believe is James R. Kincaid). U.S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, 18th ward Barbara (Barbay) Kingcade head of household James R. Kincaid age 30 Margaret Miller, age 24 Charles Amos, age 4 16 others The Baltimore Directory of 1850 lists Barbay Kingcade as running a boarding house at 20 Pearl St. with the same named 20 people as in the USFC. Will of Thomas Kincaid, son of Samuel Kincaid of Fawn and brother of James Kincaid, who died November 1857 in Fawn Township. PA. Will proven 1867 in Fawn. (Thomas b 1790 had never married) He left his estate to: Lewis Kincaid $300 Agnes Dunlap $30 Heirs of James Kincaid: Elisabeth Wentz Ann Sanders Margaret Miller James R. Kincaid Samuel Kincaid Cecilia Wentz son of Amelia Kincaid Amos (Charles Amos) daughter of James R. Kincaid (Clara) Heirs of Jenny Kincaid McLaughlin: Samuel McLaughlin, Wallace McLaughlin, Jane Kilgore, Nancy McLaughlin, Martha Tarbert Wallace Kincaid Joseph Kincaid’s children. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often visited the Fawn Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn with his father, Frank W. Kincaid. Frank W had gone every summer with his father James R. Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the “old neighborhood.” That is why my father took me there. ____________________________________ James Kincaid b Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; d Sept 7, 1832 m Baltimore MD Sept 28, 1812 Barbara Kendall Son of Samuel Kincaid and Agness (unknown) Proven by: Oct. 1810 PA will of Samuel Kincaid of Fawn Township named as heirs his wife Agness, (sometimes called Nancy) sons: John, James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas daughters: Margaret Vance, Jenny McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McCleary (dec’d). Also mentioned as an heir was Samuel’s grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York County Heritage Trust files, York, PA) Inventory of Samuel Kincaid’s estate was signed by his wife Agness James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, York County, PA, as a single man in 1797.( first appearance on tax list would indicated he was age 21 thus b c1776) (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA, archives.) Baltimore City Directory of 1803 James Kincaid 133 High St. Baltimore City Directory of 1804 James Kincaid 153 High St. occupation school teacher David Kincaid 153 High St. occupation drayman. David listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807. (Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) U.S. Federal Census of 1810 Wards 2-6, Baltimore pg 268 James Kincaid one male 26-45 one male 16-25 one female over 45 one female 16-25 two females under 10. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 James Kincaid 153 High St. Baltimore, MD occupation grocer Wallace Kincaid 153 High St., Baltimore, MD occupation grocer Wallace remained at that address with James until 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) _________________________________ Samuel Kincaid, b abt. 1736, d Oct 1810 Fawn Township, York County, PA. Parents unknown What is known: 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land in Fawn Township Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania. ( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with “M”). This warrant was filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in Lancaster County warrants 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from Archibald White in Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered). 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County Militia, Capt. William Gray's company (ICHT Courtesy Mr. John Heisey). Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn 1779 - 1810 (York County Archives, York, PA) 1790-U.S. Federal Census York Co. PA Samuel Kincaid three males over 16 five males under 16 4 females (York Co Archives, York Pa) 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR) 1800-US Federal Census, York County, PA Samuel Kincaid 1 male 45+ 0 males 26-45 2 males 16-25 2 males 10-15 1 female 45+ 1 female 116-25 1810- Samuel Kincaid (119921) died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs and left Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. “Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in Fawn Township in the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, of land originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st month 1771 for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th day of June 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at the request of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for confirmation. Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, Barrens, Thomas Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, Harrisburg.” (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office ,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.) 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 perches July 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn Township York County Pa. (Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent Book Vol 9, pg 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) Samuel Kincaid’s possible father,: John Kinkead of Sadsbury, Chester Co. PA Will of John Kinkead proven Nov 1771 wife Mary left farm to son Charles, twenty pounds to sons: David, John, Samuel, James Left sums to sons-in-laws" Adam Hope (married daughter Agnes) Thomas Kilpatrick John Simril (married daughter Mary) Josiah Crawford (courtesy Norman Kincaide..CCAR) A Samuel Kincaid was taxed in Sadsbury as a single man in 1757 and a married man 1758-65. He was taxed in West Caln (adjacent township) 1765-1772. This Samuel fits in age and possible marriage year. His disappearance from West Caln in 1772 coincides with Samuels 1772 purchase of Poplar Quarter in Fawn, York Co. PA. There is a close DNA match with #37382 and #8144 both of whom believe descent from John of Sadsbury. Definative proof is being sought. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Don for your response. Is there anyone else who has comments or questions? I will mark this line as vetted to Samuel next week unless someone else has a question. Like you, I do believe both 11921 and 37382 will ultimately be vetted to John of Sadsbury. If I remember correctly the case for linkage from Shirley's vetted David to John is quite strong and is only awaiting a vetting post for that link to be confirmed. While Samuel appears to be the son of John also, the Chester Co. is a bit complicated with some Kincaids who are not sons of John of Sadsbury running around. In particular we have James the clockmaker (not son of John) who is next of kin after Samuel to the Andrew who died on shipboard. Since John of Sadsbury was alive at the time of Andrew's death and would have been next of kin to any other Kincaid before his son Samuel, there appears to be another Samuel running around. There is also an early James who bought land next to John of Sadsbury. He is thought to have moved to Barbados. He may have had sons who fit into the mix. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Charles Kincaid (119921,Gp A Set 1b) Amended Vetting to Samuel Kincai d of Fawn Pa We have done a review of 119921's vetting post and it looks like every generation is documented enough to warrant marking it as vetted. I also reviewed 37382's vetting post since Shirley Patchen also is likely descendant of John of Sadsbury and her information does not conflict with Chuck's. We do believe both are descendants of John of Sadsbury and are looking forward to vetting them to him. Don W. Kincaid #1427, Group A, Set 1b Kincaid DNA Project Eastland, Texas, USA Hugh Alvin Kincaid, died 1989 & Flora Elizabeth Branscum Hugh Allen Kincaid, died 1922 & Louisa Short David Greer Kincaid, died 1798 & Betty Allen William Moore Kincaid, died 1870? & Druscilla David Greer Kincaid, died 1840 & Isabel Rogers John Kincaid d. 1792 & Margaret Jane? Lockhart? Joseph Kincaid/Kinkead died 1774 & ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liedtke To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Charles Kincaid (119921,Gp A Set 1b) Amended Vetting to Samuel Kincai d of Fawn Pa I urge everyone to take a moment to review this vetting post connecting 119921 to Samuel Kincaid of Fawn PA. Please let the list know if there are any questions regarding the line. It would also be nice to know if you think this is a true line. I will wait a week and ask again for comments before marking this line as vetted. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Kincaid" <ccckincaid@netzero.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ccckincaid@verizon.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:33 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Charles Kincaid (119921,Gp A Set 1b) Amended Vetting to Samuel Kincai d of Fawn Pa Ruth, I have amended my original vetting submission that tracked back to John Kinkead of Sadsbury Pa and I am submitting this revised vetting to Samuel Kincaid of Fawn Township Pa. Samuel, I believe, is the son of John. As more facts are uncovered linking Samuel to John, I will update this vetting. Thank you. Chuck =================================================================== Charles Vernon Kincaid to Samuel Kincaid of Fawn Township PA DNA # 119921, Gp A Set 1b<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Charles Vernon Kincaid, Born Baltimore, MD, 1930 Son of Charles Vernon Kincaid Sr. and Lois Mildred Miller Proven by: Birth certificate: Baltimore City Health Dept lists my father as Charles Vernon Kincaid and mother as Lois (Miller) Kincaid Marriage Certificate of Charles V. Kincaid and Lois M. Miller in Towson, MD, on September 12, 1926. Witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Elmer Parks. (In my possession) Baltimore Sun obituary listing Charles’s numerous accomplishments and civic works over the past 40 years and identified Charles V. Kincaid as his son and Lois Kincaid as his wife Life knowledge: I knew my parents and their siblings and they acknowledged me as their son and/or nephew ___________________________________________________ Charles Vernon Kincaid (Sr), b Baltimore, MD, Oct 29, 1882 d Dec 2, 1950. m Towson MD Sept 12, 1926 Lois M Miller Son of Frank Wallace Kincaid and Mary Delphine Baer Proven by: “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, and marriages of Kincaid/Baer family from 1855 onward. Charles’s birthday given as October 29, 1882, in my possession. Charles V. Kincaid Certificate of Death, Baltimore city lists birth and death dates as above 1900 Federal Census of Baltimore city Frank Kincaid, husband, age 48 MD mother born England Delphine, wife, age 45 PA Charles V, son, age 17 MD James W, son, age 14 MD George C, son, age 12 PA Sophie A, daughter age 9 PA Carroll L, son age 6, MD Marriage Certificate: Frank W. Kincaid of Baltimore and Mary D. Baer of Bryansville, York County, PA, were joined in marriage the 13th day of January, 1881, in Bryansville, PA, (near Fawn Grove) by Joseph D. Smith, minister. Witnesses were Clara Kincaid (Frank’s sister) and Charles S. Baer (Dellies brother). Copy in my files. Obituary from Baltimore newspaper announcing the death of Frank W. Kincaid and plans for burial in Slate Ridge Cemetery in Delta, PA. Surviving children: Charles V. George C, Sophie A. and Carroll L. Frank W. and Mary D. (who died May 16, 1903) Kincaid were buried in Slate Ridge Cemetery, (near Fawn Grove) along with Frank’s unmarried sister, Ida V, and Frank and Dellie’s son, James Wallace who died age 19 of TB on Oct 24 1904 Oil paintings of Frank W. and Mary D. Kincaid on their wedding day, January 13, 1881. (In my possession) Life knowledge: I knew my father’s sister and two brothers and they acknowledged him as their sibling ________________________________________________ Frank Wallace Kincaid, b Baltimore, MD, Jan 25, 1856, d Feb 22, 1908 m Jan 13, 1881 Mary Delphine Baer Son of James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave Proven by: “Kincaid Family Bible” listing births, deaths, marriages of the Kincaid family from 1855 onward. Frank’s birthday given as January 25, 1856 Certified Baltimore City Certificate of Death of Frank W. Kincaid with birth and death dates as above Baltimore City Marriage Licenses Issued (1851-1865),pg.330, James Kincaid and Anna Cave married November 24, 1852, Hall of Records, Annapolis Md. 1860 Federal Census of Baltimore City, p 706 18th ward James R. Kincaide , age 40, MD Emma (Anna) age 37 Eng Clara age 7 MD Frank, age 4 MD Ida age 1 MD Baltimore Directory for 1860 653 W. Baltimore St. in 18th ward Baltimore, MD. James R., Anna, Clara, Frank W., and Idah V. (Files of Baltimore Directories at Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) Baltimore Directories from 1852-1887 list J. R. Kincaid and family living at various residences in Baltimore during these years. (Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore Md) Gravestones in Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD James R. Kincaid’s date of birth as August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. Wife Anna Cave Kincaid, age 75, died February 22, 1898. Also burial plots of two unnamed young children, one is noted as “child of James R. Kincaid” (Personal visit to Loudon Park Cemetery. Baltimore, Md) Photographs of James R. Kincaid and wife, Anna Cave Kincaid, as an elderly couple, circa 1885, (in my possession). ________________________________________ James R. Kincaid b Baltimore, MD, Aug 20, 1816 d Baltimore MD Nov 21, 1887. m Baltimore, MD Nov 24,1852 Anna Cave Son of James Kincaid and Barbara Kendall Proven by Certificate of Death, Baltimore City Health Department, documents J. R. Kincaid’s birth and death dates, August 20, 1816, died November 21, 1887. (Certified Copy, Baltimore City Health Department) September 28, 1812, James Kincaid married Barbara Kendall at the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church, Light Street, Baltimore. Wedding performed by Rev. George Roberts. (1st Methodist Episcopal Church records, Maryland Historical Society records, Baltimore, MD) U. S. Federal Census of 1830 pg 189 Ward 4 of Baltimore City James Kincaid One male 50-60 one male 5-10 one male 10-15 one female 50-60 one female 20-30 one female 15-20 one female 10-15 one female 5-10 First Methodist Episcopal Church Light St. church records. Marriages: Ann Kincaid and George Sanders, 7 June 1832 by Rev. J. Frye Cecelia Kincaid and Isaac Wentz, 17 February 1838 by Rev. J. Frye Amelia E. Kincaid and Frederick Amos, 27 October 1845 by Rev. W. M. Evans James R. Kincaid and Anna Cave, 24 November 1852 by unreadable. Baltimore American announcement of 15 June 1832 announced marriage of Ann Kincaid, daughter of James Kincaid, to George Sanders, tea merchant of Baltimore. Death of James Kincaid announced in the Baltimore American newspaper of September 15, 1832, “James Kincaid, long a merchant of Baltimore died of the cholera on September 7.” (Diehlman File of Baltimore Newspapers, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) James Kincaid was buried in the Old North Burial Ground in Baltimore. James and his wife Barbara were reinterred on July 2, 1877 in Greenmount Cemetery in Baltimore when the Old North Burial Ground was disestablished to make way for the expanding downtown of Baltimore. James was reinterred in the burial plot of his daughter, Ann (Kincaid) Sanders. (Personal Visit to Greenmount Cemetery) US Federal Census 1840 Baltimore, MD 12th ward Barbay Kinkaid, age 50 to 60, two males, age 15 to 20, one male, 20 to 30 (who I believe is James R. Kincaid). U.S. Federal Census of 1850 Baltimore City, MD, 18th ward Barbara (Barbay) Kingcade head of household James R. Kincaid age 30 Margaret Miller, age 24 Charles Amos, age 4 16 others The Baltimore Directory of 1850 lists Barbay Kingcade as running a boarding house at 20 Pearl St. with the same named 20 people as in the USFC. Will of Thomas Kincaid, son of Samuel Kincaid of Fawn and brother of James Kincaid, who died November 1857 in Fawn Township. PA. Will proven 1867 in Fawn. (Thomas b 1790 had never married) He left his estate to: Lewis Kincaid $300 Agnes Dunlap $30 Heirs of James Kincaid: Elisabeth Wentz Ann Sanders Margaret Miller James R. Kincaid Samuel Kincaid Cecilia Wentz son of Amelia Kincaid Amos (Charles Amos) daughter of James R. Kincaid (Clara) Heirs of Jenny Kincaid McLaughlin: Samuel McLaughlin, Wallace McLaughlin, Jane Kilgore, Nancy McLaughlin, Martha Tarbert Wallace Kincaid Joseph Kincaid’s children. My father, Charles V. Kincaid, Sr., his brothers and sister often visited the Fawn Grove-Bryansville-Delta region. He explained to me that he went back to Fawn with his father, Frank W. Kincaid. Frank W had gone every summer with his father James R. Kincaid to visit friends (McLaughlins, Clarkes, Watsons, etc.) from the “old neighborhood.” That is why my father took me there. ____________________________________ James Kincaid b Fawn Township, PA abt. 1776; d Sept 7, 1832 m Baltimore MD Sept 28, 1812 Barbara Kendall Son of Samuel Kincaid and Agness (unknown) Proven by: Oct. 1810 PA will of Samuel Kincaid of Fawn Township named as heirs his wife Agness, (sometimes called Nancy) sons: John, James, Samuel, David, Wallace, Joseph, and Thomas daughters: Margaret Vance, Jenny McLaughlin, Nancy and heirs of his daughter, Jean McCleary (dec’d). Also mentioned as an heir was Samuel’s grandson, Lewis Kincaid. (Will Book M, pg. 274, York County Heritage Trust files, York, PA) Inventory of Samuel Kincaid’s estate was signed by his wife Agness James Kincaid, first shown on tax lists, taxed $1.00, in Fawn Township, York County, PA, as a single man in 1797.( first appearance on tax list would indicated he was age 21 thus b c1776) (York County Tax Record Roll 5226, York County, PA, archives.) Baltimore City Directory of 1803 James Kincaid 133 High St. Baltimore City Directory of 1804 James Kincaid 153 High St. occupation school teacher David Kincaid 153 High St. occupation drayman. David listed with James at that address in 1805, 1806, and 1807. (Baltimore City Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) U.S. Federal Census of 1810 Wards 2-6, Baltimore pg 268 James Kincaid one male 26-45 one male 16-25 one female over 45 one female 16-25 two females under 10. Baltimore City Directory of 1813 James Kincaid 153 High St. Baltimore, MD occupation grocer Wallace Kincaid 153 High St., Baltimore, MD occupation grocer Wallace remained at that address with James until 1819. (Baltimore Directories file, Maryland Historical Society, Baltimore, MD) _________________________________ Samuel Kincaid, b abt. 1736, d Oct 1810 Fawn Township, York County, PA. Parents unknown What is known: 1749-Warrant, dated June 6, 1749, granted to Alexander McCanless for land in Fawn Township Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania. ( Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, WARRANT REGISTERS 1733-1757, Surnames beginning with “M”). This warrant was filed before York County was formed August 14, 1749, and thus is listed in Lancaster County warrants 1772-Samuel Kincaid bought 271 acres called Poplar Quarter from Archibald White in Fawn Township (deed not yet recovered). 1779-Samuel Kincaid listed on roll of York County Militia, Capt. William Gray's company (ICHT Courtesy Mr. John Heisey). Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn 1779 - 1810 (York County Archives, York, PA) 1790-U.S. Federal Census York Co. PA Samuel Kincaid three males over 16 five males under 16 4 females (York Co Archives, York Pa) 1797-Samuel Kincaid taxed in Fawn for 150 acres. (CCAR) 1800-US Federal Census, York County, PA Samuel Kincaid 1 male 45+ 0 males 26-45 2 males 16-25 2 males 10-15 1 female 45+ 1 female 116-25 1810- Samuel Kincaid (119921) died October 1810. Will lists his children as heirs and left Poplar Quarter to sons Joseph and Thomas. 1813-Survey of Poplar Quarter. “Joseph and Thomas Kincaid situate in Fawn Township in the county of York containing as above 271 acres & 61 perches and allowance, of land originally surveyed by William Matthews, late DS, on the 21st day of the 1st month 1771 for Archibald White in pursuance of a warrant which was granted to Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) bearing the date of 6th of June 1749. And now, on the 16th day of June 1813, the same has been calculated, examined, and found to be correct and at the request of the present owners, Joseph and Thomas Kincaid, the same is returned for confirmation. Adjacent land owners: Joseph Ross, Barrens, William Smilee, Barrens, Barrens, Thomas Brannon,. Per Jacob Spangler, DS. To Andrew Porter Esq. Surveyor General, Harrisburg.” (Pennsylvania State Archives, RG-17, Records of the Land Office ,COPIED SURVEYS, 1681-1912, Vol B-9, pg 12.) 1813 Patent.-Joseph and Thomas Kincaid (119921) patented 271 acres, 61 perches July 10, 1813, warrantee, Alexander McCanless (Poplar Quarter) June 6, 1749 Fawn Township York County Pa. (Pennsylvania State Archives RG-17, Records of the Land Office, PATENT INDEX, H Series (H1 to H20), 1809-1823, Surnames beginning with K, pg 189, Patent Book Vol 9, pg 196. Courtesy Norman Kincaide) Samuel Kincaid’s possible father,: John Kinkead of Sadsbury, Chester Co. PA Will of John Kinkead proven Nov 1771 wife Mary left farm to son Charles, twenty pounds to sons: David, John, Samuel, James Left sums to sons-in-laws" Adam Hope (married daughter Agnes) Thomas Kilpatrick John Simril (married daughter Mary) Josiah Crawford (courtesy Norman Kincaide..CCAR) A Samuel Kincaid was taxed in Sadsbury as a single man in 1757 and a married man 1758-65. He was taxed in West Caln (adjacent township) 1765-1772. This Samuel fits in age and possible marriage year. His disappearance from West Caln in 1772 coincides with Samuels 1772 purchase of Poplar Quarter in Fawn, York Co. PA. There is a close DNA match with #37382 and #8144 both of whom believe descent from John of Sadsbury. Definative proof is being sought. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toKINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotesin the subject and the body of the message

This John Kincaid was transported against his wishes for not signing an oath of allegiance to the King of Scotland in 1685 on board the Henry and Francis ship which unloaded the surviving passengers at Perth Amboy, East New Jersey. There was a vigorous discussion about this John in March, 2004 on the Kincaid List consisting of 25 posts I just now reviewed. I found no one could prove with documentation where this John went to from NJ although there were several possibilities proposed. Has anyone discovered any documentation on John of the Henry & Francis since 2004? Thanks, Don W.

Hi, Don, In all of my travels to Pennsylvania, to Chester, York, Lancaster, Cumberland or Philadelphia, I never come across anything indicating that John Kincaid who boarded the Henry & Francis, ever went to Pennsylvania.  I have never seen any connection to the Chester County, PA Kincaids.  I have never found any evidence other than he survived the voyage and was on the list of survivors who debarked at Perth Amboy, NJ.  The supposed lineage went from Thomas Kincaid (DNA Group C) who married Mary Mackey to the Kincaids (DNA Group A, set 1b) of Chester County, PA then to John Kincaid of the Henry & Francis.  There is no evidence to indicate this was a possible valid lineage.  Sincerely Norman Kincaide ----- Original Message ---- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:37:26 PM Subject: [KINCAID] John Kincaid of the Henry and Francis ship, Leith to NJ 1685 This John Kincaid was transported against his wishes for not signing an oath of allegiance to the King of Scotland in 1685 on board the Henry and Francis ship which unloaded the surviving passengers at Perth Amboy, East New Jersey. There was a vigorous discussion about this John in March, 2004 on the Kincaid List consisting of 25 posts I just now reviewed. I found no one could prove with documentation where this John went to from NJ although there were several possibilities proposed. Has anyone discovered any documentation on John of the Henry & Francis since 2004? Thanks, Don W. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb..com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One has to be careful with these books as they are not sources but give the impression that they are by giving sources. For example, I am pretty sure that K.F.R. is the Kincaid Family Researches publication put out by Clan Kincaid a number of years ago. There were a lot of undocumented or made up claims made in this which some treated like fact (ie. the four sons of Alexander Kincaid, Lord Provost of Edinburgh). Always check the sources and if they are not an actual record, they are not a reliable source. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid > Michael, > > Received the pages in good shape! Thanks mighty much! > > There are 10 Kincaid men listed on Page 192. No Kinkeads or other > spellings. 1 David, 1 George, 3 James, 2 John, 1 Robert & 2 Samuel > > I assume the initials and numbers in parentheses refer to where Whyte > found the information. Does the introduction tell what (K.F.R.), (N.R.), > (S.H.), (R.P.C.) & (B.G.E.) stand for? > > Google maps shows the area called Edinburgh at the southern end of > Chesapeake Bay almost to NC state line but there doesn't seem to be an > actual incorporated town by that name in VA. > > I just received a note from Randy Kincaid who tells me the LDS library in > Mesa has this book and lots of others so will be visiting it soon. The > other local LDS churches we have visited had very limited resources so had > not checked Mesa. > > Don W.

In the future, when you all are wanting to share documentation, might I suggest that you post it on the Kincaid facebook group?? :) Debby -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clegg <Mclegg@acpl.lib.in.us> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 1:08 pm Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Our library has the book Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the U.S.A. by Donald Whyte pub. 1972 by Magna Carta Book Co. of Baltimore MD. I'm going to scan the page of Kincaids and send to Don. The info on John simply states: "Kincaid, John. To Virginia before 4 May 1743, when admitted burgess and guildbrother of Edinburgh. (B.G.E.)" I'd gladly scan and send to the group, but I am unsure if attachments like that go through. Can someone enlighten me? Michael >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 12:14 PM >>> I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA. xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Agreed. This is why I asked what the initials stood for since the wording of the various Kincaid men did not sound like original documents. I am a stickler for original documents. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter A. Kincaid To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid One has to be careful with these books as they are not sources but give the impression that they are by giving sources. For example, I am pretty sure that K.F.R. is the Kincaid Family Researches publication put out by Clan Kincaid a number of years ago. There were a lot of undocumented or made up claims made in this which some treated like fact (ie. the four sons of Alexander Kincaid, Lord Provost of Edinburgh). Always check the sources and if they are not an actual record, they are not a reliable source. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don W. Kincaid" <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid > Michael, > > Received the pages in good shape! Thanks mighty much! > > There are 10 Kincaid men listed on Page 192. No Kinkeads or other > spellings. 1 David, 1 George, 3 James, 2 John, 1 Robert & 2 Samuel > > I assume the initials and numbers in parentheses refer to where Whyte > found the information. Does the introduction tell what (K.F.R.), (N.R.), > (S.H.), (R.P.C.) & (B.G.E.) stand for? > > Google maps shows the area called Edinburgh at the southern end of > Chesapeake Bay almost to NC state line but there doesn't seem to be an > actual incorporated town by that name in VA. > > I just received a note from Randy Kincaid who tells me the LDS library in > Mesa has this book and lots of others so will be visiting it soon. The > other local LDS churches we have visited had very limited resources so had > not checked Mesa. > > Don W. To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Attachments cannot go through Rootsweb. The Rootsweb computer bounces them. If you could scan and send directly to Don at the email below, it would be much appreciated. Thanks, Ruth In a message dated 2/11/2009 12:16:59 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, Mclegg@acpl.lib.in.us writes: Our library has the book Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the U.S.A. by Donald Whyte pub. 1972 by Magna Carta Book Co. of Baltimore MD. I'm going to scan the page of Kincaids and send to Don. The info on John simply states: "Kincaid, John. To Virginia before 4 May 1743, when admitted burgess and guildbrother of Edinburgh. (B.G.E.)" I'd gladly scan and send to the group, but I am unsure if attachments like that go through. Can someone enlighten me? Michael >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 12:14 PM >>> I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid %20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael, Received the pages in good shape! Thanks mighty much! There are 10 Kincaid men listed on Page 192. No Kinkeads or other spellings. 1 David, 1 George, 3 James, 2 John, 1 Robert & 2 Samuel I assume the initials and numbers in parentheses refer to where Whyte found the information. Does the introduction tell what (K.F.R.), (N.R.), (S.H.), (R.P.C.) & (B.G.E.) stand for? Google maps shows the area called Edinburgh at the southern end of Chesapeake Bay almost to NC state line but there doesn't seem to be an actual incorporated town by that name in VA. I just received a note from Randy Kincaid who tells me the LDS library in Mesa has this book and lots of others so will be visiting it soon. The other local LDS churches we have visited had very limited resources so had not checked Mesa. Don W. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Clegg To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Our library has the book Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the U.S.A. by Donald Whyte pub. 1972 by Magna Carta Book Co. of Baltimore MD. I'm going to scan the page of Kincaids and send to Don. The info on John simply states: "Kincaid, John. To Virginia before 4 May 1743, when admitted burgess and guildbrother of Edinburgh. (B.G.E.)" I'd gladly scan and send to the group, but I am unsure if attachments like that go through. Can someone enlighten me? Michael >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 12:14 PM >>> I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Judy. Michael Clegg has sent me a copy of the page. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Roth To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Debby, I live in Topeka. Both the Topeka and Shawnee County Public Library and the Kansas State Historical Society - History Center have great collections of books. A few relate to specific families. The public library catalog can be searched through www.tscpl.org. I am not sure of the Historical Society web address. I just search for them by name when I want to go to the site. The last time I checked, part of their catalog was being put on line. If someone on the list has a specific request for information from a book either place owns, I will be happy to go to the library and look for it as time permits. The genealogy section books in the Topeka library are reference books and may not be checked out. Any books at the Kansas State Historical Society have to be read in the library research room. They will ILL some microfilms. Both libraries have collections of genealogy magazines. Judy Roth ________________________________ From: "gregndebbypotter@aol.com" <gregndebbypotter@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:38:22 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Don, let me know if you? need me to see what I can dig up on this book through the library. I talked to the lending library yesterday about the Families of Co. Limerick Ireland book by Michael O'Laughlin, and they were supposed to get back with me about the copies they were making?but didn't. They may call today and my director will take the message for me. If there are any Kincaids on this mailing list near Topeka, KS, apparently the genealogical society there has LOTS of books that would probably be good resources and the library too. The lady working at the library said the genealogical society there is very helpful and might even loan their books out, if not make copies/scans. I'll try to find a couple of links. http://tscpl.org??? is the library ?http://skyways.lib.ks.us/orgs/schs/index.html?? I think this is the genealogical society that the librarian told me about. If you don't think it is, you can call the genealogical dept of the library and ask where the two volunteers that help them are sent from (I think they are both 'Larry's). Debby -----Original Message----- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:14 am Subject: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Our library has the book Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the U.S.A. by Donald Whyte pub. 1972 by Magna Carta Book Co. of Baltimore MD. I'm going to scan the page of Kincaids and send to Don. The info on John simply states: "Kincaid, John. To Virginia before 4 May 1743, when admitted burgess and guildbrother of Edinburgh. (B.G.E.)" I'd gladly scan and send to the group, but I am unsure if attachments like that go through. Can someone enlighten me? Michael >>> donwkincaid@cox.net 2/11/2009 12:14 PM >>> I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy that is so wonderful of you.... Don, meet Judy... Judy, meet Don (he is the one that will be most likely to contact you)... Aye! -----Original Message----- From: Judy Roth <jroth93947@yahoo.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:06 pm Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Debby, I live in Topeka. Both the Topeka and Shawnee County Public Library and the Kansas State Historical Society - History Center?have great collections of books. A few relate to specific families. The public library?catalog can be searched through www.tscpl.org. I am not sure of the Historical Society web address. I just search for them by name when I want to go to the site. The last time I checked, part of their catalog was being put on line. If someone on the list has a specific request for information from a book either place owns, I will be happy to go to the library and look for it as time permits. The genealogy section books in the Topeka library?are reference books and may not be checked out. Any books at the Kansas State Historical Society have to be read in the library research room. They will ILL some microfilms. Both libraries have collections of genealogy magazines. Judy Roth ________________________________ From: "gregndebbypotter@aol.com" <gregndebbypotter@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:38:22 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Don, let me know if you? need me to see what I can dig up on this book through the library. I talked to the lending library yesterday about the Families of Co. Limerick Ireland book by Michael O'Laughlin, and they were supposed to get back with me about the copies they were making?but didn't. They may call today and my director will take the message for me. If there are any Kincaids on this mailing list near Topeka, KS, apparently the genealogical society there has LOTS of books that would probably be good resources and the library too. The lady working at the library said the genealogical society there is very helpful and might even loan their books out, if not make copies/scans. I'll try to find a couple of links. http://tscpl.org??? is the library ?http://skyways.lib.ks.us/orgs/schs/index.html?? I think this is the genealogical society that the librarian told me about. If you don't th ink it is, you can call the genealogical dept of the library and ask where the two volunteers that help them are sent from (I think they are both 'Larry's). Debby -----Original Message----- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:14 am Subject: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?.? My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid ? ? ? ? ? ? Name: John Kincaid ? ? ? ? ? ? Year: 1743? ? ? ? ? ? ? Place: Virginia? ? ? ? ? ? ? Source Publication Code: 9760? ? ? ? ? ? ? Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John ? ? ? ? ? ? Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants.? ? ? ? ? ? ? Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981.? ? ? ? ? ? ? Page: 192? ? ? To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don, let me know if you? need me to see what I can dig up on this book through the library. I talked to the lending library yesterday about the Families of Co. Limerick Ireland book by Michael O'Laughlin, and they were supposed to get back with me about the copies they were making?but didn't. They may call today and my director will take the message for me. If there are any Kincaids on this mailing list near Topeka, KS, apparently the genealogical society there has LOTS of books that would probably be good resources and the library too. The lady working at the library said the genealogical society there is very helpful and might even loan their books out, if not make copies/scans. I'll try to find a couple of links. http://tscpl.org??? is the library ?http://skyways.lib.ks.us/orgs/schs/index.html?? I think this is the genealogical society that the librarian told me about. If you don't think it is, you can call the genealogical dept of the library and ask where the two volunteers that help them are sent from (I think they are both 'Larry's). Debby -----Original Message----- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:14 am Subject: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?. My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid Name: John Kincaid Year: 1743 Place: Virginia Source Publication Code: 9760 Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants. Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981. Page: 192

Debby, I live in Topeka. Both the Topeka and Shawnee County Public Library and the Kansas State Historical Society - History Center have great collections of books. A few relate to specific families. The public library catalog can be searched through www.tscpl.org. I am not sure of the Historical Society web address. I just search for them by name when I want to go to the site. The last time I checked, part of their catalog was being put on line. If someone on the list has a specific request for information from a book either place owns, I will be happy to go to the library and look for it as time permits. The genealogy section books in the Topeka library are reference books and may not be checked out. Any books at the Kansas State Historical Society have to be read in the library research room. They will ILL some microfilms. Both libraries have collections of genealogy magazines. Judy Roth ________________________________ From: "gregndebbypotter@aol.com" <gregndebbypotter@aol.com> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:38:22 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid Don, let me know if you? need me to see what I can dig up on this book through the library. I talked to the lending library yesterday about the Families of Co. Limerick Ireland book by Michael O'Laughlin, and they were supposed to get back with me about the copies they were making?but didn't. They may call today and my director will take the message for me. If there are any Kincaids on this mailing list near Topeka, KS, apparently the genealogical society there has LOTS of books that would probably be good resources and the library too. The lady working at the library said the genealogical society there is very helpful and might even loan their books out, if not make copies/scans. I'll try to find a couple of links. http://tscpl.org??? is the library ?http://skyways.lib.ks.us/orgs/schs/index.html?? I think this is the genealogical society that the librarian told me about. If you don't think it is, you can call the genealogical dept of the library and ask where the two volunteers that help them are sent from (I think they are both 'Larry's). Debby -----Original Message----- From: Don W. Kincaid <donwkincaid@cox.net> To: Kincaid Rootsweb List <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:14 am Subject: [KINCAID] Immigrant John Kincaid I have found a possibility for my John Kincaid's immigration in 1743. Arizona State University, Phoenix Public Library or Mesa Library do not show to have Donald Whyte's book so I thought I would ask the Kincaid List if anyone has looked up this reference and if so which John is this?.  My John is first found in VA in mid 1740's. Thanks for your help! Don Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kincaid             Name: John Kincaid             Year: 1743              Place: Virginia              Source Publication Code: 9760              Primary Immigrant: Kincaid, John             Annotation: Covers era prior to 1855. Compiled from correspondence and monument inscriptions, 17th and, mainly, 18th century. Prepared for the Scottish Genealogical Society. 6,470 emigrants.              Source Bibliography: WHYTE, DONALD. A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to the USA. Vol. 1. Baltimore: Magna Carta Book Co., 1972. 504p. 2nd pr., 1981.              Page: 192      To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If your line was vetted in the past year or so then you were vetted via a post to the list. The post will be in the archives. It is only those who worked with Leslie who do not have their lineage in the archives. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: <Utahn1@aol.com> To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting Archives > Your line might have been vetted on the List. It was Bob Arnott below who > had the initial question. > > Ruth > > > In a message dated 2/10/2009 10:11:17 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > kincaidfamily@qwest.net writes: > > Actually, I though my relative's information was vetted on the "list" but > it > is no problem to do it again when the time is available! > > -----Original Message----- > From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Utahn1@aol.com > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM > To: kincaid@rootsweb.com > Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting Archives > > Mary Lou, > > There is an archive now that we vet on the list. Originally, the > information was emailed or snail mailed to an individual who proclaimed > the > person was vetted or not. If you remember someone posting the vetting > information to the Mail List then yes, it would be in the archives. I am > very sorry that some have to go through the painful process or re-doing > some work, but I am afraid it cannot be helped. Vetting on the List > started > a few years ago and this was an excellent move. Now more people are > involved and the more eyes that look at something the more chance that we > see errors or receive more suggestions as to how to further our > documentation. Or, as sometimes happens, the chances increase in our > finding connections with cousins. > > Ruth Cherecwich > > In a message dated 2/9/2009 1:35:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > mlclegg@verizon.net writes: > Isn't there an archive of documents that are submitted for vetting? > > Mary Lou > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Arnott" <kincaidfamily@qwest.net> > To: <kincaid@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:51 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 > > >> Sue, sent me the "stuff" I assume I can do it again as I did it before. >> I'm >> not sure what you mean when you say vetting was by Leslie. I provided > her >> the information and if you mean she was the "custodian of the >> information > >> I >> understand. It will take me a while as I just returned from West >> Virginia >> and the celebration of my Aunt Joan's (Kincaid Niday's 80 birthday!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:kincaid-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Sue Liedtke >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:50 AM >> To: kincaid@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results for 135736 >> >> Results for 135736's upgrade to 37 markers are now in. He matches the >> group >> A-1a AAV exactly at all markers. >> >> This is very, very interesting to the Fayette/Greenbrier WVA Kincaids >> and >> has implications for all Group A Kincaids as 135736 claims to >> George/Mary >> Campbell. 49289 in A-2b is vetted to the same ancestor. The vetting for >> 49289 was done by Leslie so we do not have the lineage available in the >> archives. I urge JoAnne (contact for 135736) to contact me for the > vetting >> format. Bob (49289), I also urge you to contact me so that we can >> create > a >> vetting post to submit to the list for review. Bob has the 9 at marker >> 15 >> (459b) which is the signature for set A-2. This makes reviewing his >> line >> of >> paramont interest as it calls into question the vetting. If both can be >> verified to George/Mary Campbell we will have an incidence of parallel >> mutation at this marker. This has implications for all A-2b Kincaids >> as > it >> is possible that this marker has mutated several times. >> >> The paper trails in the Fayette area seem to indicate that almost all >> Kincaids in this region are descendents of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. The > most >> logical lineage from the paperwork indicates that George/Mary Campbell, >> Thomas/Isabella/Eliza (130207 A-1a), William (33001 A-1c), and Harvey >> (101753 A-1a) are all sons of Thomas/Polly Davis (whom 33001 is vetted >> to). >> The paper trail also indicates that Thomas/Polly Davis is the son of >> Samuel >> of the 3 wives, who in turn is the son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. 36856, >> 30078 and probably several more A-1a Kincaids from this region appear >> to >> be >> the descendents of John/Elizabeth Gillespie who is also appears to be >> the >> son of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I urge all lines to work on vetting back >> to >> Thomas/Hannah so that the family relationships can be confirmed. >> >> SPECULATION FOLLOWS >> We know that Thomas's father is a John Kincaid and that Thomas appears > 1st >> in Albemarle Co. I believe this John is John the Weaver and that many >> other >> A-1a Kincaids who trace from this area may either be his descendents or >> descendents of a brother or cousin. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid > %20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KINCAID-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message