Dear Kincaid Listers, I have created a new file: Kincaid Genealogical Historiography at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kincaide/Kincaid%20Genealogical%20Historiography/ I have added two documents: an introduction and Dr. Herbert Clark Kincaid's Kincaid Genealogy, since there had been some interest in that document recently I have posted his work under Kincaid Genealogical Historiography. Sincerely Norman Kincaide

Good news so far. We fly to Rochester, MN early tomorrow and will be back 3/28 if all goes well. We will have our computer with us but no files to speak of. Will try to get taxes done while in the waiting room! We are going to be redoing our back yard here in Gilbert and your comment about gardening is small spaces has given us some ideas to incorporate. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Liedtke To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:00 PM Subject: [KINCAID] DNA results #198598 The first panel (markers 1-12) has been returned from the lab. #198598 matches the Group A AAV exactly at these markers. While this panel is not a good predictor because of so many matches to other surnames, the results do increase the probality that there isn't a DNA break in his paternal Kincaid line. The rest of the results for his 37 marker order are not due back until mid April but may start coming in anytime after the first. A vetting post to David/Winifred Hobson through their son Joseph/Rebecca Calvert's son David/Mary Williams is nearing completion. A great deal effort is being made to gather every shred of evidence available to support the lineage as it is so important to Virginia Kincaids. Note that the 2 other lines who believe descent from David/Winifred have an 11 at marker 4 (DYS 391). Both lines are believed to come through David/Winifred's son John/Elizabeth Logan. It may be that John was the first in this line with the marker 4 mutation that plagues many of Group A's lines. Sue Liedtke To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The first panel (markers 1-12) has been returned from the lab. #198598 matches the Group A AAV exactly at these markers. While this panel is not a good predictor because of so many matches to other surnames, the results do increase the probality that there isn't a DNA break in his paternal Kincaid line. The rest of the results for his 37 marker order are not due back until mid April but may start coming in anytime after the first. A vetting post to David/Winifred Hobson through their son Joseph/Rebecca Calvert's son David/Mary Williams is nearing completion. A great deal effort is being made to gather every shred of evidence available to support the lineage as it is so important to Virginia Kincaids. Note that the 2 other lines who believe descent from David/Winifred have an 11 at marker 4 (DYS 391). Both lines are believed to come through David/Winifred's son John/Elizabeth Logan. It may be that John was the first in this line with the marker 4 mutation that plagues many of Group A's lines. Sue Liedtke

Hi Connie, We will finally get to meet since you are now in Madison County, KY. Since our Kincaid Cemetery is there, we will be spending 3 days of the Kincaid Gathering in Madison County. We plan to visit Fort Boonesborough Sat the 28th of May with a tour of the fort in the morning and a gathering in the afternoon or vice versa, depending on the weather. We will attend church Sunday at Pleasant View Christian Church which considers our John Kincaid, Jr special since he donated the land for Bethel Church, the forerunner of Pleasant View. We will have a speaker or 2 after church and lunch, then go to Kincaid Cemetery to honor our ancestors and allied families buried there. On Monday we will make Old Harrod's Fort where our Rev. War hero James Kincaid and Sarah Wilson were the first to marry there and also Wilson's Station south of Harrodsburg. If times work out right sometime in the 3 days, we will also visit Big Hill , East of Berea, where our William Kincaid was killed by Indians and Station Camp in Estill County where Moore Kincaid was killed by Indians. Some books show Moore as the last person killed by Indians in then Madison County. Perhaps you can join us for part of the gathering. If you or anyone else on the Kincaid List would like to receive the schedule and info about the Kincaid Gathering, send a private email to me off list at [email protected] & we will add you to the list. All Kincaid's whether directly kin to Joseph Kincaid/Kinkead of Albemarle County, VA or his son John & wife Margaret Lockhart are invited to join us and will be issuing a special invite to our close DNA cousins of all spellings as soon as the schedule is firmly set with the hotels and wagon yards selected. Some at the gathering will also go to the Clinch River in SW Virginia where John & Margaret lived before going to KY and then to Albemarle County where Joseph and John are first found in records. Don W. Kincaid DNA # 1427 ----- Original Message ----- From: Connie Hurley To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list-Madison County Hi Don and all, I will be doing some research as soon as I possibly can and get settled, perhaps by that time it will be warmer weather and my son's Michael and Chris will also be helping at that time and we will be able to do more research (smile) I now live in Madison County, Kentucky so it should be fairly easy for us. Take Care and Have a great evening! Connie --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Don W Kincaid <[email protected]> wrote: From: Don W Kincaid <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list To: [email protected] Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 6:57 PM My ancestor David Kincaid and his brothers, James and John were all 3 in Madison County in 1800. I wonder who the other Kincaid who was in Madison County is, namely Joseph Kincard, first on the list? Also the Robert Kincade of Garrard County which joins Madison on the South? Thanks, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list My subscription to ancestry.com includes the "Second Census of Kentucky", compiled from Kentucky tax lists from the year 1800. Here are the names/spellings that look like a form of 'Kincaid'. Joseph Kincard Madison 10/1/1800 David Kincade Mason 8/25/1800 Robert Kincade Garrard 8/6/1800 Andrew Kincaid Bourbon 1800 Andrew Kincaid Bourbon 1800 (Yes, two Andrew Kincaids are shown in Bourbon County.) David Kincaid Madison 1800 George Kincaid Harrison 1800 James Kincaid Bourbon 1800 James Kincaid Clark 1800 James Kincaid Cumberland 1799 James Kincaid Madison 1800 John Kincaid Harrison 1800 John Kincaid Madison 1800 Robert Kincaid Harrison 1800 Samuel Kincart Nicholas 1800 Robert Kingcade Shelby 8/25/1800 John Kinglar (?) Mason 1800 George Kinkade Livingston 3/10/1800 John Kinkade Jessamine 8/29/1800 Samuel Kinkade Livingston 3/10/1800 David Kinkaid Green 1800 Andrew Kinkead Fleming 8/16/1800 Andrew Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Archibald Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Archibald Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 David Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Guy Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 James Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 John Kinkead Clark 7/22/1800 John Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 John Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 Joseph Kinkead Barren 1800 Joseph Kinkead Clark 7/22/1800 Thomas Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 William Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list Your names match an early Fayette County, KY tax list dated 1788. KINCADE, Andrew KINCADE, Archibald KINCADE, David KINCADE, Hapson KINCADE, John KINCADE, William KINKADE, John http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/FAYETTE.TXT Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Don W Kincaid Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid Gathering I have 2 pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in 1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page 160. Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include: name tithables David Kincade 1 John Kincade 1 John Kinkade 2 Andrew Kincade 1 Hapson Kincade 1 Archibald Kincade 1 Wm Kincade 1 Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list! Don W. # 1427 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Don and all, I will be doing some research as soon as I possibly can and get settled, perhaps by that time it will be warmer weather and my son's Michael and Chris will also be helping at that time and we will be able to do more research (smile)   I now live in Madison County, Kentucky so it should be fairly easy for us. Take Care and Have a great evening! Connie --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Don W Kincaid <[email protected]> wrote: From: Don W Kincaid <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list To: [email protected] Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 6:57 PM My ancestor David Kincaid and his brothers, James and John were all 3 in Madison County in 1800. I wonder who the other Kincaid who was in Madison County is, namely Joseph Kincard, first on the list?  Also the Robert Kincade of Garrard County which joins Madison on the South? Thanks, Don ----- Original Message -----   From: Barbara Van Hout   To: [email protected]   Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:18 PM   Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list   My subscription to ancestry.com includes the "Second Census of   Kentucky", compiled from Kentucky tax lists from the year 1800.   Here are the names/spellings that look like a form of 'Kincaid'.   Joseph Kincard    Madison   10/1/1800   David Kincade    Mason    8/25/1800   Robert Kincade   Garrard    8/6/1800   Andrew Kincaid    Bourbon    1800   Andrew Kincaid   Bourbon   1800   (Yes, two Andrew Kincaids are shown in Bourbon County.)   David Kincaid    Madison    1800   George Kincaid    Harrison    1800   James Kincaid    Bourbon    1800   James Kincaid    Clark    1800   James Kincaid    Cumberland    1799   James Kincaid    Madison    1800   John Kincaid    Harrison    1800   John Kincaid    Madison    1800   Robert Kincaid    Harrison    1800   Samuel Kincart    Nicholas    1800   Robert Kingcade   Shelby    8/25/1800   John Kinglar (?)    Mason    1800   George Kinkade   Livingston   3/10/1800   John Kinkade    Jessamine    8/29/1800   Samuel Kinkade   Livingston    3/10/1800   David Kinkaid    Green    1800   Andrew Kinkead   Fleming    8/16/1800   Andrew Kinkead    Montgomery    8/22/1800   Archibald Kinkead   Montgomery   8/22/1800   Archibald Kinkead    Woodford    8/  /1800   David Kinkead    Montgomery    8/22/1800   Guy Kinkead    Woodford   8/  /1800   James Kinkead   Woodford    8/  /1800   John Kinkead    Clark    7/22/1800   John Kinkead    Montgomery   8/22/1800   John Kinkead    Woodford    8/  /1800   Joseph Kinkead    Barren    1800   Joseph Kinkead    Clark    7/22/1800   Thomas Kinkead    Montgomery    8/22/1800   William Kinkead    Woodford   8/  /1800   -----Original Message-----   From: Barbara Van Hout   Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:55 PM   To: [email protected]   Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list   Your names match an early Fayette County, KY tax list dated 1788.   KINCADE, Andrew   KINCADE, Archibald   KINCADE, David   KINCADE, Hapson   KINCADE, John   KINCADE, William   KINKADE, John   http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/FAYETTE.TXT   Barbara   -----Original Message-----   From: Don W Kincaid   Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM   To: [email protected]   Subject: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list   In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid   Gathering I have 2  pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY   that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in   1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did   not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County   this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page   160.   Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include:   name                        tithables   David Kincade           1   John Kincade            1   John Kinkade            2   Andrew Kincade      1   Hapson Kincade       1   Archibald Kincade    1   Wm Kincade             1   Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list!   Don W. # 1427  

Yes. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > Was this Thomas's wife Sarah Gwinn? > > Barb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 12:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > This Thomas is son of William/Agnes. Charles, son of John of Bath, married > 1807 Thomas's sister Nancy. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > >>I have the book "Abstracts of the Wills and Inventories of Bath County, >> Virginia, 1791-1842" by Jean Randolph Bruns. >> >> I will post a few records for the David Kincaids and the will of >> Thomas/Isabella Kincaid of Bath County. >> >> p. 203 in the above book: >> "Two bonds by David G. Kincaid and John W. Gwin for $200 each to John D. >> Hamilton, John Graham, Samuel Lewis and James Brown, gentlemen justices, >> June 8, 1841 to pay Mary Kincaid and Margaret Kincaid, orphan children of >> Thomas Kincaid, their estate when of age." >> >> p. 198 in the above book: >> "Will of Thomas Kincaid (kaid) (X) Dated May 1, 1840 >> Wit: John Stephenson, Adam Stephenson, William Robertson >> Probated June 1840 >> Exec: brother-in-law Charles L. Kincaid and friend Adam Stephenson >> Beq: >> to daughter Jane bay mare, saddle and bridle >> to daughter Nancy a horse, saddle and bridle >> to son David all the horses in his possession, three in number >> to daughter Sarah, a horse, saddle and bridle >> to daughter Margaret a bay colt, saddle and bridle >> to daughter Mary young colt, saddle and bridle >> to beloved wife Sarah 2 slaves Philip and Vicey, as long as they are >> obedient, otherwise they are to be hired out; >> all other real and personal property >> any money equally to wife and daughters. >> >> Was the above Thomas Kincaid married twice, first to Isabella Kincaid, >> and >> second to Sarah ? >> >> >> Barbara >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sue Liedtke >> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> Thanks Barb. This fills in more of David's family. Since all the DNA >> samples >> proven to John of Bath are through son Charles, it would be nice to have >> a >> sample from this line. It should match as we know that William b 1806 of >> Gasconade Co. MO was not the son of Charles therefore must either >> represent >> the line of another of John of Bath's sons or that of a brother or cousin >> of >> some degree. >> >> Archibald/Rachel Hickland Kincaid refered to as the father of William J >> Kincaid toward the end of your post was the son of Thomas/Isabella >> Kincaid >> Kincaid. William J would have been a first cousin to John Hodge Kincaid. >> Isabella was the daughter of John of Bath. Thomas is thought to have been >> a >> brother of William/Agnes, proven son of Thomas/Margaret Lockhart Kincaid >> d >> 1750. We do not have a DNA sample from this line. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Barbara Van Hout >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:28 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >>> >>> The Bureau of Land Management has upgraded its website for land records. >>> There are several records for John H. (Hodge) Kincaid who bought land in >>> Tippecanoe County earlier than David Kincaid of Bath County, VA,, as >>> early >>> as 4/3/1829. . >>> >>> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ >>> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx >>> >>> It may be that David Kincaid went to Indiana to visit his son John and >>> daughter Elizabeth Wanless, and then returned to Virginia. >>> >>> David Kincaid a. 60-70 was in the 1830 Bath County, VA >>> census, with 3 males 1 a. 10-15; 1 a. 20-30; 1 a. 40-50; and David, a. >>> 60-70. There was 1 F a. 10-15 and 1 F a. 50-60 in his household. >>> >>> The 1820 Bath County, VA census, dated Dec. 25, 1820, shows David >>> Kincaid >>> a. 45+ with 6 males (sons?) 2 a. to 10; 2 a. to 16; 1 a. 16-18; 1 a. >>> 16-26; >>> David a. 45+. There >>> were 3 females, 2 a. to 10 and and 1 a. 45+ in his household. >>> He was just below Charles and Ferdinand Kincaid in this census. Several >>> Gwinn >>> families are shown below David on this page. >>> >>> The Wanless Web has much information about David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge of >>> Bath >>> County, VA. It gives the records that prove John H. Kincaid's sister >>> married Stephen Wanless in Bath County, VA and this family was also in >>> Tippecanoe County in 1830, just above John Kincaid in this census. >>> http://www.wanlessweb.org/ >>> >>> The 1830 Federal Census for John H. Kincaid, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, >>> Randolph Township, shows two males age 20-30 in the household, 1 male >>> under >>> 5 and 1 female a. 20-30. >>> >>> RANDOLPH TOWNSHIP >>> >>> SUMMERS, Michael >>> SHUTTS, Christopher >>> RICHEY, Robert >>> BRIANT, Ganen >>> KERR, James >>> BERRY, Samuel >>> ROUDYBUSH, George >>> FUGETT, Joseph >>> MIKESELL, Parbley >>> ELLIS, Thomas >>> STUTSMAN, John >>> WANLESS, Stephen >>> KINCAID, John H. >>> JOURDEN, William >>> WRIGHT, Thomas J. >>> STORMS, Peter >>> HOLLODAY, Samuel >>> HOLLODAY, John >>> >>> >>> 1830 Indiana, Tippecanoe Co, Randolph Twp [roll 31, p.129] >>> Samuel Guinn >>> 1 male 40-50 >>> 1 female 40-50 >>> 1 female 20-30 >>> 2 females 15-20 >>> 2 females 10-15 >>> 1 male 10-15 >>> 1 female 5-10 >>> 1 male under 5 >>> --Beckie Rawdon says this is Samuel Gwinn who married Mary Magdalene >>> Johnson in Monroe County, WV. He left Tippecanoe and went to Carroll >>> county, IN where he died in 1856. >>> >>> Guinns of Augusta Co Virginia & Tippecanoe co Indiana >>> http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/tippegwins/D1.htm >>> >>> Message 392 on Kincaid Family Genforum: >>> "I am searching for info on Elizabeth Harriet Kinkead(Kincaid), born >>> 4-13-1807, who married Stephen Wandless Jr, on 2-5-1827 in Bath Co,VA. >>> Does >>> anyone know who her parents were?" >>> >>> ◦From Doug McGuire : (www.wanlessweb.org) >>> "I believe it can be proven beyond a doubt, through land, estate and >>> marriage >>> records, that John H and Elizabeth are bro and sis. >>> >>> I have seen federal land records, purchases out of the Crawfordsville, >>> IN federal land office, that tie John H Kincaid to Bath County, VA. The >>> time frame was around 1828-1830. His father David also purchased >>> Tippecanoe >>> County land but appears to have never lived there. He sells the land to >>> John a few years later. >>> >>> Finding the VA ancestry of William J. Kincaid was one of my >>> toughest challenges. The obscure clue I had was that John H Kincaid >>> purchased land in Carroll County, Indiana, and then sold it about 1837. >>> WJK >>> marries in Carroll County in 1844 and then appears in the 1850 census. >>> So, >>> it appears that John H Kincaid & Stephen Wanless >>> and family came to Tippecanoe County around 1830. The Carroll County >>> land >>> where JHK owned land, and where WJK settled are very close to each >>> other, >>> and less than ten miles from where JHK was in Tippecanoe County. It was >>> an >>> secluded obituary in the Western Christian Advocate, a weekly paper >>> published by the Methodist church that revealed that WJK came to Carroll >>> County around 1837 with his mother Rachel. Since the obit, I have >>> determined that his mother was Rachel Hicklin and his father Archibald >>> Kincaid, of Augusta County." >>> >>> >>> Barbara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sue Liedtke >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:05 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >>> >>> The most likely is David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge, son of John/Elizabeth of >>> Bath. >>> His son David Nelson/Mary Ann Kincaid/Samantha? Kincaid. Mary Ann was >>> daughter of William/Elizabeth Temple Kincaid. David Nelson is on the >>> 1850 >>> Augusta Co. age 35 so it is not him. >>> >>> David/Sarah's son John Hodge Kincaid/Juriah Gillum/Dorcas Henness. John >>> died >>> about 1860 Henry Co. IA. He had a son David Nelson Kincaid b 1841 >>> Bonaparte, >>> Van Buren IA. The John Hodge information was posted March 16, 2000 by >>> Evaleen Flanders Hoeller. This family moved to King Co., Washington. >>> Indiana >>> may have been a stop before moving on to IA. >>> >>> I think Barb found a census record in Montgomery Co. IND, which is where >>> Crawfordsville is that might shed a bit more light. >>> >>> Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid also had a son David b 1784 whom I don't >>> know much about. >>> >>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:23 PM >>> Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >>> >>> >>>> Do any of the Virginia Kincaid researchers recognize this David >>>> Kincaid? >>>> >>>> Sincerely >>>> Norman Kincaide >>>> >>>> 1829, David Kincaid, Bath County, Virginia, >>>> >>>> Certificate No. 7999, The United States of America, To all to whom >>>> these >>>> presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas David Kincaid of Bath County, >>>> Virginia has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, >>>> a >>>> Certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Detroit, whereby it >>>> appears that full payment has been made by the said David Kincaid >>>> according to the provisions of “An act of Congress of the 24th of >>>> April, >>>> 1820, entitled an act making further provision for the sale of Public >>>> Lands,” for the West half of the South West quarter of Section twenty >>>> four >>>> in Township twenty one north of Range four West in the District of >>>> lands >>>> offered for sale at Crawfordsville, Indiana, containing eighty acres, >>>> according to the official plat of the survey of the said lands, >>>> returned >>>> to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract >>>> has >>>> been purchased by the said David Kincaid, Now Know Ye, That the United >>>> States of America, in >>>> consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several acts >>>> of >>>> Congress, in such case made and provided, Have Given And Granted, and >>>> by >>>> these presents Do Give And Grant, unto the said David Kincaid and to >>>> his >>>> heirs, the said tract above described: To Have and To Hold the same, >>>> together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appurtenances >>>> of >>>> whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said David Kincaid and >>>> to >>>> his heirs and assigns forever. In Testimony Whereof, I, Andrew Jackson, >>>> President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to >>>> be >>>> made Patent, and the Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto >>>> affixed, Given under my hand at the city of Washington, the twenty >>>> second >>>> day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and >>>> twenty >>>> nine and of the Independence of the United States the fifty third, By >>>> the >>>> President: Andrew Jackson, ? Commissioner of the General Land Office. >>>> >>>> United States Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, >>>> General >>>> Land Office Records, Indiana, Vol. 102, p. 435, Accession Number: >>>> IN1020.435, State Volume Patent, Indiana, Date, May 22, 1829, Document >>>> Nr. >>>> 7999, 80.0 acres, Land Office, Crawfordsville, County, Tippecanoe, >>>> Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>>> >>>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestor David Kincaid and his brothers, James and John were all 3 in Madison County in 1800. I wonder who the other Kincaid who was in Madison County is, namely Joseph Kincard, first on the list? Also the Robert Kincade of Garrard County which joins Madison on the South? Thanks, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list My subscription to ancestry.com includes the "Second Census of Kentucky", compiled from Kentucky tax lists from the year 1800. Here are the names/spellings that look like a form of 'Kincaid'. Joseph Kincard Madison 10/1/1800 David Kincade Mason 8/25/1800 Robert Kincade Garrard 8/6/1800 Andrew Kincaid Bourbon 1800 Andrew Kincaid Bourbon 1800 (Yes, two Andrew Kincaids are shown in Bourbon County.) David Kincaid Madison 1800 George Kincaid Harrison 1800 James Kincaid Bourbon 1800 James Kincaid Clark 1800 James Kincaid Cumberland 1799 James Kincaid Madison 1800 John Kincaid Harrison 1800 John Kincaid Madison 1800 Robert Kincaid Harrison 1800 Samuel Kincart Nicholas 1800 Robert Kingcade Shelby 8/25/1800 John Kinglar (?) Mason 1800 George Kinkade Livingston 3/10/1800 John Kinkade Jessamine 8/29/1800 Samuel Kinkade Livingston 3/10/1800 David Kinkaid Green 1800 Andrew Kinkead Fleming 8/16/1800 Andrew Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Archibald Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Archibald Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 David Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Guy Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 James Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 John Kinkead Clark 7/22/1800 John Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 John Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 Joseph Kinkead Barren 1800 Joseph Kinkead Clark 7/22/1800 Thomas Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 William Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list Your names match an early Fayette County, KY tax list dated 1788. KINCADE, Andrew KINCADE, Archibald KINCADE, David KINCADE, Hapson KINCADE, John KINCADE, William KINKADE, John http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/FAYETTE.TXT Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Don W Kincaid Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid Gathering I have 2 pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in 1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page 160. Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include: name tithables David Kincade 1 John Kincade 1 John Kinkade 2 Andrew Kincade 1 Hapson Kincade 1 Archibald Kincade 1 Wm Kincade 1 Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list! Don W. # 1427 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My subscription to ancestry.com includes the "Second Census of Kentucky", compiled from Kentucky tax lists from the year 1800. Here are the names/spellings that look like a form of 'Kincaid'. Joseph Kincard Madison 10/1/1800 David Kincade Mason 8/25/1800 Robert Kincade Garrard 8/6/1800 Andrew Kincaid Bourbon 1800 Andrew Kincaid Bourbon 1800 (Yes, two Andrew Kincaids are shown in Bourbon County.) David Kincaid Madison 1800 George Kincaid Harrison 1800 James Kincaid Bourbon 1800 James Kincaid Clark 1800 James Kincaid Cumberland 1799 James Kincaid Madison 1800 John Kincaid Harrison 1800 John Kincaid Madison 1800 Robert Kincaid Harrison 1800 Samuel Kincart Nicholas 1800 Robert Kingcade Shelby 8/25/1800 John Kinglar (?) Mason 1800 George Kinkade Livingston 3/10/1800 John Kinkade Jessamine 8/29/1800 Samuel Kinkade Livingston 3/10/1800 David Kinkaid Green 1800 Andrew Kinkead Fleming 8/16/1800 Andrew Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Archibald Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Archibald Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 David Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 Guy Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 James Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 John Kinkead Clark 7/22/1800 John Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 John Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 Joseph Kinkead Barren 1800 Joseph Kinkead Clark 7/22/1800 Thomas Kinkead Montgomery 8/22/1800 William Kinkead Woodford 8/ /1800 -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list Your names match an early Fayette County, KY tax list dated 1788. KINCADE, Andrew KINCADE, Archibald KINCADE, David KINCADE, Hapson KINCADE, John KINCADE, William KINKADE, John http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/FAYETTE.TXT Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Don W Kincaid Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid Gathering I have 2 pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in 1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page 160. Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include: name tithables David Kincade 1 John Kincade 1 John Kinkade 2 Andrew Kincade 1 Hapson Kincade 1 Archibald Kincade 1 Wm Kincade 1 Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list! Don W. # 1427 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Your names match an early Fayette County, KY tax list dated 1788. KINCADE, Andrew KINCADE, Archibald KINCADE, David KINCADE, Hapson KINCADE, John KINCADE, William KINKADE, John http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/FAYETTE.TXT Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Don W Kincaid Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid Gathering I have 2 pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in 1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page 160. Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include: name tithables David Kincade 1 John Kincade 1 John Kinkade 2 Andrew Kincade 1 Hapson Kincade 1 Archibald Kincade 1 Wm Kincade 1 Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list! Don W. # 1427 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Attachments cannot come through on Rootsweb. If you'll notice the date, Peter sent that email on March 8. Cyberspace is sometimes strange. Peter has subsequently sent the pages mentioned below as well as the rest of the paper to both myself and Alice Gedge. He has also given permission to pass the write-up along to others provided we give the proviso that there are many errors contained in the paper and to use the material with caution. If anyone would like me to forward the two emails containing the pages I can do so. Ruth Cherecwich In a message dated 3/11/2011 1:25:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Peter, attachment? On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Peter A. Kincaid wrote: > Attached are the last 4 pages of the paper. There is no > page numbering. I simply numbered the pages myself > for reference so the first page is what I call the 7th page. > If this is new to you let me know and I'll scan the > rest and send them when I can. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk > > >> I am interested, too. >> >> Alice Gedge >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk >> >> Peter, You have an obvioiusly different printout from what I have. Any >> chance of my obtaining a copy of what you have? I've never seen anything >> like >> what you have written below. >> >> Ruth > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Bob Arnott [email protected] (303)741-3468 (h) (303) 475-9885 (c) To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca id%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Barbara! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Van Hout To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list Your names match an early Fayette County, KY tax list dated 1788. KINCADE, Andrew KINCADE, Archibald KINCADE, David KINCADE, Hapson KINCADE, John KINCADE, William KINKADE, John http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/roots-l/usa/files/FAYETTE.TXT Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Don W Kincaid Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KINCAID] Help on 1792 Kentucky tax list In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid Gathering I have 2 pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in 1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page 160. Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include: name tithables David Kincade 1 John Kincade 1 John Kinkade 2 Andrew Kincade 1 Hapson Kincade 1 Archibald Kincade 1 Wm Kincade 1 Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list! Don W. # 1427 To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In gathering info from my research folders for the upcoming Kincaid Gathering I have 2 pages from a book from the archives in Lexington, KY that listed all those on the tax lists for the various counties in KY in 1792. I labeled one of them Madison County at the time I copied them but did not label the other one so I need help to determine which Kentucky County this was for. It is from page 36 and the Madison County list is from page 160. Kincaids of various spellings on the page 36 1792 tax list include: name tithables David Kincade 1 John Kincade 1 John Kinkade 2 Andrew Kincade 1 Hapson Kincade 1 Archibald Kincade 1 Wm Kincade 1 Thanks mighty much for your help in determining the county for page 36 list! Don W. # 1427

Peter, attachment? On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Peter A. Kincaid wrote: > Attached are the last 4 pages of the paper. There is no > page numbering. I simply numbered the pages myself > for reference so the first page is what I call the 7th page. > If this is new to you let me know and I'll scan the > rest and send them when I can. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk > > >> I am interested, too. >> >> Alice Gedge >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:47 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk >> >> Peter, You have an obvioiusly different printout from what I have. Any >> chance of my obtaining a copy of what you have? I've never seen anything >> like >> what you have written below. >> >> Ruth > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Bob Arnott [email protected] (303)741-3468 (h) (303) 475-9885 (c)

Was this Thomas's wife Sarah Gwinn? Barb -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 This Thomas is son of William/Agnes. Charles, son of John of Bath, married 1807 Thomas's sister Nancy. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >I have the book "Abstracts of the Wills and Inventories of Bath County, > Virginia, 1791-1842" by Jean Randolph Bruns. > > I will post a few records for the David Kincaids and the will of > Thomas/Isabella Kincaid of Bath County. > > p. 203 in the above book: > "Two bonds by David G. Kincaid and John W. Gwin for $200 each to John D. > Hamilton, John Graham, Samuel Lewis and James Brown, gentlemen justices, > June 8, 1841 to pay Mary Kincaid and Margaret Kincaid, orphan children of > Thomas Kincaid, their estate when of age." > > p. 198 in the above book: > "Will of Thomas Kincaid (kaid) (X) Dated May 1, 1840 > Wit: John Stephenson, Adam Stephenson, William Robertson > Probated June 1840 > Exec: brother-in-law Charles L. Kincaid and friend Adam Stephenson > Beq: > to daughter Jane bay mare, saddle and bridle > to daughter Nancy a horse, saddle and bridle > to son David all the horses in his possession, three in number > to daughter Sarah, a horse, saddle and bridle > to daughter Margaret a bay colt, saddle and bridle > to daughter Mary young colt, saddle and bridle > to beloved wife Sarah 2 slaves Philip and Vicey, as long as they are > obedient, otherwise they are to be hired out; > all other real and personal property > any money equally to wife and daughters. > > Was the above Thomas Kincaid married twice, first to Isabella Kincaid, and > second to Sarah ? > > > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > Thanks Barb. This fills in more of David's family. Since all the DNA > samples > proven to John of Bath are through son Charles, it would be nice to have a > sample from this line. It should match as we know that William b 1806 of > Gasconade Co. MO was not the son of Charles therefore must either > represent > the line of another of John of Bath's sons or that of a brother or cousin > of > some degree. > > Archibald/Rachel Hickland Kincaid refered to as the father of William J > Kincaid toward the end of your post was the son of Thomas/Isabella Kincaid > Kincaid. William J would have been a first cousin to John Hodge Kincaid. > Isabella was the daughter of John of Bath. Thomas is thought to have been > a > brother of William/Agnes, proven son of Thomas/Margaret Lockhart Kincaid d > 1750. We do not have a DNA sample from this line. > > Sue Liedtke > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barbara Van Hout >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> The Bureau of Land Management has upgraded its website for land records. >> There are several records for John H. (Hodge) Kincaid who bought land in >> Tippecanoe County earlier than David Kincaid of Bath County, VA,, as >> early >> as 4/3/1829. . >> >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx >> >> It may be that David Kincaid went to Indiana to visit his son John and >> daughter Elizabeth Wanless, and then returned to Virginia. >> >> David Kincaid a. 60-70 was in the 1830 Bath County, VA >> census, with 3 males 1 a. 10-15; 1 a. 20-30; 1 a. 40-50; and David, a. >> 60-70. There was 1 F a. 10-15 and 1 F a. 50-60 in his household. >> >> The 1820 Bath County, VA census, dated Dec. 25, 1820, shows David >> Kincaid >> a. 45+ with 6 males (sons?) 2 a. to 10; 2 a. to 16; 1 a. 16-18; 1 a. >> 16-26; >> David a. 45+. There >> were 3 females, 2 a. to 10 and and 1 a. 45+ in his household. >> He was just below Charles and Ferdinand Kincaid in this census. Several >> Gwinn >> families are shown below David on this page. >> >> The Wanless Web has much information about David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge of >> Bath >> County, VA. It gives the records that prove John H. Kincaid's sister >> married Stephen Wanless in Bath County, VA and this family was also in >> Tippecanoe County in 1830, just above John Kincaid in this census. >> http://www.wanlessweb.org/ >> >> The 1830 Federal Census for John H. Kincaid, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, >> Randolph Township, shows two males age 20-30 in the household, 1 male >> under >> 5 and 1 female a. 20-30. >> >> RANDOLPH TOWNSHIP >> >> SUMMERS, Michael >> SHUTTS, Christopher >> RICHEY, Robert >> BRIANT, Ganen >> KERR, James >> BERRY, Samuel >> ROUDYBUSH, George >> FUGETT, Joseph >> MIKESELL, Parbley >> ELLIS, Thomas >> STUTSMAN, John >> WANLESS, Stephen >> KINCAID, John H. >> JOURDEN, William >> WRIGHT, Thomas J. >> STORMS, Peter >> HOLLODAY, Samuel >> HOLLODAY, John >> >> >> 1830 Indiana, Tippecanoe Co, Randolph Twp [roll 31, p.129] >> Samuel Guinn >> 1 male 40-50 >> 1 female 40-50 >> 1 female 20-30 >> 2 females 15-20 >> 2 females 10-15 >> 1 male 10-15 >> 1 female 5-10 >> 1 male under 5 >> --Beckie Rawdon says this is Samuel Gwinn who married Mary Magdalene >> Johnson in Monroe County, WV. He left Tippecanoe and went to Carroll >> county, IN where he died in 1856. >> >> Guinns of Augusta Co Virginia & Tippecanoe co Indiana >> http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/tippegwins/D1.htm >> >> Message 392 on Kincaid Family Genforum: >> "I am searching for info on Elizabeth Harriet Kinkead(Kincaid), born >> 4-13-1807, who married Stephen Wandless Jr, on 2-5-1827 in Bath Co,VA. >> Does >> anyone know who her parents were?" >> >> ◦From Doug McGuire : (www.wanlessweb.org) >> "I believe it can be proven beyond a doubt, through land, estate and >> marriage >> records, that John H and Elizabeth are bro and sis. >> >> I have seen federal land records, purchases out of the Crawfordsville, >> IN federal land office, that tie John H Kincaid to Bath County, VA. The >> time frame was around 1828-1830. His father David also purchased >> Tippecanoe >> County land but appears to have never lived there. He sells the land to >> John a few years later. >> >> Finding the VA ancestry of William J. Kincaid was one of my >> toughest challenges. The obscure clue I had was that John H Kincaid >> purchased land in Carroll County, Indiana, and then sold it about 1837. >> WJK >> marries in Carroll County in 1844 and then appears in the 1850 census. >> So, >> it appears that John H Kincaid & Stephen Wanless >> and family came to Tippecanoe County around 1830. The Carroll County land >> where JHK owned land, and where WJK settled are very close to each other, >> and less than ten miles from where JHK was in Tippecanoe County. It was >> an >> secluded obituary in the Western Christian Advocate, a weekly paper >> published by the Methodist church that revealed that WJK came to Carroll >> County around 1837 with his mother Rachel. Since the obit, I have >> determined that his mother was Rachel Hicklin and his father Archibald >> Kincaid, of Augusta County." >> >> >> Barbara >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sue Liedtke >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> The most likely is David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge, son of John/Elizabeth of >> Bath. >> His son David Nelson/Mary Ann Kincaid/Samantha? Kincaid. Mary Ann was >> daughter of William/Elizabeth Temple Kincaid. David Nelson is on the 1850 >> Augusta Co. age 35 so it is not him. >> >> David/Sarah's son John Hodge Kincaid/Juriah Gillum/Dorcas Henness. John >> died >> about 1860 Henry Co. IA. He had a son David Nelson Kincaid b 1841 >> Bonaparte, >> Van Buren IA. The John Hodge information was posted March 16, 2000 by >> Evaleen Flanders Hoeller. This family moved to King Co., Washington. >> Indiana >> may have been a stop before moving on to IA. >> >> I think Barb found a census record in Montgomery Co. IND, which is where >> Crawfordsville is that might shed a bit more light. >> >> Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid also had a son David b 1784 whom I don't >> know much about. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:23 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> >>> Do any of the Virginia Kincaid researchers recognize this David Kincaid? >>> >>> Sincerely >>> Norman Kincaide >>> >>> 1829, David Kincaid, Bath County, Virginia, >>> >>> Certificate No. 7999, The United States of America, To all to whom these >>> presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas David Kincaid of Bath County, >>> Virginia has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, >>> a >>> Certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Detroit, whereby it >>> appears that full payment has been made by the said David Kincaid >>> according to the provisions of “An act of Congress of the 24th of April, >>> 1820, entitled an act making further provision for the sale of Public >>> Lands,” for the West half of the South West quarter of Section twenty >>> four >>> in Township twenty one north of Range four West in the District of lands >>> offered for sale at Crawfordsville, Indiana, containing eighty acres, >>> according to the official plat of the survey of the said lands, returned >>> to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has >>> been purchased by the said David Kincaid, Now Know Ye, That the United >>> States of America, in >>> consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several acts >>> of >>> Congress, in such case made and provided, Have Given And Granted, and by >>> these presents Do Give And Grant, unto the said David Kincaid and to his >>> heirs, the said tract above described: To Have and To Hold the same, >>> together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appurtenances >>> of >>> whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said David Kincaid and >>> to >>> his heirs and assigns forever. In Testimony Whereof, I, Andrew Jackson, >>> President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to >>> be >>> made Patent, and the Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto >>> affixed, Given under my hand at the city of Washington, the twenty >>> second >>> day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty >>> nine and of the Independence of the United States the fifty third, By >>> the >>> President: Andrew Jackson, ? Commissioner of the General Land Office. >>> >>> United States Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, General >>> Land Office Records, Indiana, Vol. 102, p. 435, Accession Number: >>> IN1020.435, State Volume Patent, Indiana, Date, May 22, 1829, Document >>> Nr. >>> 7999, 80.0 acres, Land Office, Crawfordsville, County, Tippecanoe, >>> Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This Thomas is son of William/Agnes. Charles, son of John of Bath, married 1807 Thomas's sister Nancy. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >I have the book "Abstracts of the Wills and Inventories of Bath County, > Virginia, 1791-1842" by Jean Randolph Bruns. > > I will post a few records for the David Kincaids and the will of > Thomas/Isabella Kincaid of Bath County. > > p. 203 in the above book: > "Two bonds by David G. Kincaid and John W. Gwin for $200 each to John D. > Hamilton, John Graham, Samuel Lewis and James Brown, gentlemen justices, > June 8, 1841 to pay Mary Kincaid and Margaret Kincaid, orphan children of > Thomas Kincaid, their estate when of age." > > p. 198 in the above book: > "Will of Thomas Kincaid (kaid) (X) Dated May 1, 1840 > Wit: John Stephenson, Adam Stephenson, William Robertson > Probated June 1840 > Exec: brother-in-law Charles L. Kincaid and friend Adam Stephenson > Beq: > to daughter Jane bay mare, saddle and bridle > to daughter Nancy a horse, saddle and bridle > to son David all the horses in his possession, three in number > to daughter Sarah, a horse, saddle and bridle > to daughter Margaret a bay colt, saddle and bridle > to daughter Mary young colt, saddle and bridle > to beloved wife Sarah 2 slaves Philip and Vicey, as long as they are > obedient, otherwise they are to be hired out; > all other real and personal property > any money equally to wife and daughters. > > Was the above Thomas Kincaid married twice, first to Isabella Kincaid, and > second to Sarah ? > > > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > Thanks Barb. This fills in more of David's family. Since all the DNA > samples > proven to John of Bath are through son Charles, it would be nice to have a > sample from this line. It should match as we know that William b 1806 of > Gasconade Co. MO was not the son of Charles therefore must either > represent > the line of another of John of Bath's sons or that of a brother or cousin > of > some degree. > > Archibald/Rachel Hickland Kincaid refered to as the father of William J > Kincaid toward the end of your post was the son of Thomas/Isabella Kincaid > Kincaid. William J would have been a first cousin to John Hodge Kincaid. > Isabella was the daughter of John of Bath. Thomas is thought to have been > a > brother of William/Agnes, proven son of Thomas/Margaret Lockhart Kincaid d > 1750. We do not have a DNA sample from this line. > > Sue Liedtke > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barbara Van Hout >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> The Bureau of Land Management has upgraded its website for land records. >> There are several records for John H. (Hodge) Kincaid who bought land in >> Tippecanoe County earlier than David Kincaid of Bath County, VA,, as >> early >> as 4/3/1829. . >> >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ >> http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx >> >> It may be that David Kincaid went to Indiana to visit his son John and >> daughter Elizabeth Wanless, and then returned to Virginia. >> >> David Kincaid a. 60-70 was in the 1830 Bath County, VA >> census, with 3 males 1 a. 10-15; 1 a. 20-30; 1 a. 40-50; and David, a. >> 60-70. There was 1 F a. 10-15 and 1 F a. 50-60 in his household. >> >> The 1820 Bath County, VA census, dated Dec. 25, 1820, shows David >> Kincaid >> a. 45+ with 6 males (sons?) 2 a. to 10; 2 a. to 16; 1 a. 16-18; 1 a. >> 16-26; >> David a. 45+. There >> were 3 females, 2 a. to 10 and and 1 a. 45+ in his household. >> He was just below Charles and Ferdinand Kincaid in this census. Several >> Gwinn >> families are shown below David on this page. >> >> The Wanless Web has much information about David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge of >> Bath >> County, VA. It gives the records that prove John H. Kincaid's sister >> married Stephen Wanless in Bath County, VA and this family was also in >> Tippecanoe County in 1830, just above John Kincaid in this census. >> http://www.wanlessweb.org/ >> >> The 1830 Federal Census for John H. Kincaid, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, >> Randolph Township, shows two males age 20-30 in the household, 1 male >> under >> 5 and 1 female a. 20-30. >> >> RANDOLPH TOWNSHIP >> >> SUMMERS, Michael >> SHUTTS, Christopher >> RICHEY, Robert >> BRIANT, Ganen >> KERR, James >> BERRY, Samuel >> ROUDYBUSH, George >> FUGETT, Joseph >> MIKESELL, Parbley >> ELLIS, Thomas >> STUTSMAN, John >> WANLESS, Stephen >> KINCAID, John H. >> JOURDEN, William >> WRIGHT, Thomas J. >> STORMS, Peter >> HOLLODAY, Samuel >> HOLLODAY, John >> >> >> 1830 Indiana, Tippecanoe Co, Randolph Twp [roll 31, p.129] >> Samuel Guinn >> 1 male 40-50 >> 1 female 40-50 >> 1 female 20-30 >> 2 females 15-20 >> 2 females 10-15 >> 1 male 10-15 >> 1 female 5-10 >> 1 male under 5 >> --Beckie Rawdon says this is Samuel Gwinn who married Mary Magdalene >> Johnson in Monroe County, WV. He left Tippecanoe and went to Carroll >> county, IN where he died in 1856. >> >> Guinns of Augusta Co Virginia & Tippecanoe co Indiana >> http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/tippegwins/D1.htm >> >> Message 392 on Kincaid Family Genforum: >> "I am searching for info on Elizabeth Harriet Kinkead(Kincaid), born >> 4-13-1807, who married Stephen Wandless Jr, on 2-5-1827 in Bath Co,VA. >> Does >> anyone know who her parents were?" >> >> ◦From Doug McGuire : (www.wanlessweb.org) >> "I believe it can be proven beyond a doubt, through land, estate and >> marriage >> records, that John H and Elizabeth are bro and sis. >> >> I have seen federal land records, purchases out of the Crawfordsville, >> IN federal land office, that tie John H Kincaid to Bath County, VA. The >> time frame was around 1828-1830. His father David also purchased >> Tippecanoe >> County land but appears to have never lived there. He sells the land to >> John a few years later. >> >> Finding the VA ancestry of William J. Kincaid was one of my >> toughest challenges. The obscure clue I had was that John H Kincaid >> purchased land in Carroll County, Indiana, and then sold it about 1837. >> WJK >> marries in Carroll County in 1844 and then appears in the 1850 census. >> So, >> it appears that John H Kincaid & Stephen Wanless >> and family came to Tippecanoe County around 1830. The Carroll County land >> where JHK owned land, and where WJK settled are very close to each other, >> and less than ten miles from where JHK was in Tippecanoe County. It was >> an >> secluded obituary in the Western Christian Advocate, a weekly paper >> published by the Methodist church that revealed that WJK came to Carroll >> County around 1837 with his mother Rachel. Since the obit, I have >> determined that his mother was Rachel Hicklin and his father Archibald >> Kincaid, of Augusta County." >> >> >> Barbara >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sue Liedtke >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> The most likely is David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge, son of John/Elizabeth of >> Bath. >> His son David Nelson/Mary Ann Kincaid/Samantha? Kincaid. Mary Ann was >> daughter of William/Elizabeth Temple Kincaid. David Nelson is on the 1850 >> Augusta Co. age 35 so it is not him. >> >> David/Sarah's son John Hodge Kincaid/Juriah Gillum/Dorcas Henness. John >> died >> about 1860 Henry Co. IA. He had a son David Nelson Kincaid b 1841 >> Bonaparte, >> Van Buren IA. The John Hodge information was posted March 16, 2000 by >> Evaleen Flanders Hoeller. This family moved to King Co., Washington. >> Indiana >> may have been a stop before moving on to IA. >> >> I think Barb found a census record in Montgomery Co. IND, which is where >> Crawfordsville is that might shed a bit more light. >> >> Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid also had a son David b 1784 whom I don't >> know much about. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:23 PM >> Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 >> >> >>> Do any of the Virginia Kincaid researchers recognize this David Kincaid? >>> >>> Sincerely >>> Norman Kincaide >>> >>> 1829, David Kincaid, Bath County, Virginia, >>> >>> Certificate No. 7999, The United States of America, To all to whom these >>> presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas David Kincaid of Bath County, >>> Virginia has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, >>> a >>> Certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Detroit, whereby it >>> appears that full payment has been made by the said David Kincaid >>> according to the provisions of “An act of Congress of the 24th of April, >>> 1820, entitled an act making further provision for the sale of Public >>> Lands,” for the West half of the South West quarter of Section twenty >>> four >>> in Township twenty one north of Range four West in the District of lands >>> offered for sale at Crawfordsville, Indiana, containing eighty acres, >>> according to the official plat of the survey of the said lands, returned >>> to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has >>> been purchased by the said David Kincaid, Now Know Ye, That the United >>> States of America, in >>> consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several acts >>> of >>> Congress, in such case made and provided, Have Given And Granted, and by >>> these presents Do Give And Grant, unto the said David Kincaid and to his >>> heirs, the said tract above described: To Have and To Hold the same, >>> together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appurtenances >>> of >>> whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said David Kincaid and >>> to >>> his heirs and assigns forever. In Testimony Whereof, I, Andrew Jackson, >>> President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to >>> be >>> made Patent, and the Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto >>> affixed, Given under my hand at the city of Washington, the twenty >>> second >>> day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty >>> nine and of the Independence of the United States the fifty third, By >>> the >>> President: Andrew Jackson, ? Commissioner of the General Land Office. >>> >>> United States Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, General >>> Land Office Records, Indiana, Vol. 102, p. 435, Accession Number: >>> IN1020.435, State Volume Patent, Indiana, Date, May 22, 1829, Document >>> Nr. >>> 7999, 80.0 acres, Land Office, Crawfordsville, County, Tippecanoe, >>> Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the book "Abstracts of the Wills and Inventories of Bath County, Virginia, 1791-1842" by Jean Randolph Bruns. I will post a few records for the David Kincaids and the will of Thomas/Isabella Kincaid of Bath County. p. 203 in the above book: "Two bonds by David G. Kincaid and John W. Gwin for $200 each to John D. Hamilton, John Graham, Samuel Lewis and James Brown, gentlemen justices, June 8, 1841 to pay Mary Kincaid and Margaret Kincaid, orphan children of Thomas Kincaid, their estate when of age." p. 198 in the above book: "Will of Thomas Kincaid (kaid) (X) Dated May 1, 1840 Wit: John Stephenson, Adam Stephenson, William Robertson Probated June 1840 Exec: brother-in-law Charles L. Kincaid and friend Adam Stephenson Beq: to daughter Jane bay mare, saddle and bridle to daughter Nancy a horse, saddle and bridle to son David all the horses in his possession, three in number to daughter Sarah, a horse, saddle and bridle to daughter Margaret a bay colt, saddle and bridle to daughter Mary young colt, saddle and bridle to beloved wife Sarah 2 slaves Philip and Vicey, as long as they are obedient, otherwise they are to be hired out; all other real and personal property any money equally to wife and daughters. Was the above Thomas Kincaid married twice, first to Isabella Kincaid, and second to Sarah ? Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Fw: David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 Thanks Barb. This fills in more of David's family. Since all the DNA samples proven to John of Bath are through son Charles, it would be nice to have a sample from this line. It should match as we know that William b 1806 of Gasconade Co. MO was not the son of Charles therefore must either represent the line of another of John of Bath's sons or that of a brother or cousin of some degree. Archibald/Rachel Hickland Kincaid refered to as the father of William J Kincaid toward the end of your post was the son of Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid. William J would have been a first cousin to John Hodge Kincaid. Isabella was the daughter of John of Bath. Thomas is thought to have been a brother of William/Agnes, proven son of Thomas/Margaret Lockhart Kincaid d 1750. We do not have a DNA sample from this line. Sue Liedtke > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > The Bureau of Land Management has upgraded its website for land records. > There are several records for John H. (Hodge) Kincaid who bought land in > Tippecanoe County earlier than David Kincaid of Bath County, VA,, as early > as 4/3/1829. . > > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx > > It may be that David Kincaid went to Indiana to visit his son John and > daughter Elizabeth Wanless, and then returned to Virginia. > > David Kincaid a. 60-70 was in the 1830 Bath County, VA > census, with 3 males 1 a. 10-15; 1 a. 20-30; 1 a. 40-50; and David, a. > 60-70. There was 1 F a. 10-15 and 1 F a. 50-60 in his household. > > The 1820 Bath County, VA census, dated Dec. 25, 1820, shows David Kincaid > a. 45+ with 6 males (sons?) 2 a. to 10; 2 a. to 16; 1 a. 16-18; 1 a. > 16-26; > David a. 45+. There > were 3 females, 2 a. to 10 and and 1 a. 45+ in his household. > He was just below Charles and Ferdinand Kincaid in this census. Several > Gwinn > families are shown below David on this page. > > The Wanless Web has much information about David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge of > Bath > County, VA. It gives the records that prove John H. Kincaid's sister > married Stephen Wanless in Bath County, VA and this family was also in > Tippecanoe County in 1830, just above John Kincaid in this census. > http://www.wanlessweb.org/ > > The 1830 Federal Census for John H. Kincaid, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, > Randolph Township, shows two males age 20-30 in the household, 1 male > under > 5 and 1 female a. 20-30. > > RANDOLPH TOWNSHIP > > SUMMERS, Michael > SHUTTS, Christopher > RICHEY, Robert > BRIANT, Ganen > KERR, James > BERRY, Samuel > ROUDYBUSH, George > FUGETT, Joseph > MIKESELL, Parbley > ELLIS, Thomas > STUTSMAN, John > WANLESS, Stephen > KINCAID, John H. > JOURDEN, William > WRIGHT, Thomas J. > STORMS, Peter > HOLLODAY, Samuel > HOLLODAY, John > > > 1830 Indiana, Tippecanoe Co, Randolph Twp [roll 31, p.129] > Samuel Guinn > 1 male 40-50 > 1 female 40-50 > 1 female 20-30 > 2 females 15-20 > 2 females 10-15 > 1 male 10-15 > 1 female 5-10 > 1 male under 5 > --Beckie Rawdon says this is Samuel Gwinn who married Mary Magdalene > Johnson in Monroe County, WV. He left Tippecanoe and went to Carroll > county, IN where he died in 1856. > > Guinns of Augusta Co Virginia & Tippecanoe co Indiana > http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/tippegwins/D1.htm > > Message 392 on Kincaid Family Genforum: > "I am searching for info on Elizabeth Harriet Kinkead(Kincaid), born > 4-13-1807, who married Stephen Wandless Jr, on 2-5-1827 in Bath Co,VA. > Does > anyone know who her parents were?" > > ◦From Doug McGuire : (www.wanlessweb.org) > "I believe it can be proven beyond a doubt, through land, estate and > marriage > records, that John H and Elizabeth are bro and sis. > > I have seen federal land records, purchases out of the Crawfordsville, > IN federal land office, that tie John H Kincaid to Bath County, VA. The > time frame was around 1828-1830. His father David also purchased > Tippecanoe > County land but appears to have never lived there. He sells the land to > John a few years later. > > Finding the VA ancestry of William J. Kincaid was one of my > toughest challenges. The obscure clue I had was that John H Kincaid > purchased land in Carroll County, Indiana, and then sold it about 1837. > WJK > marries in Carroll County in 1844 and then appears in the 1850 census. So, > it appears that John H Kincaid & Stephen Wanless > and family came to Tippecanoe County around 1830. The Carroll County land > where JHK owned land, and where WJK settled are very close to each other, > and less than ten miles from where JHK was in Tippecanoe County. It was an > secluded obituary in the Western Christian Advocate, a weekly paper > published by the Methodist church that revealed that WJK came to Carroll > County around 1837 with his mother Rachel. Since the obit, I have > determined that his mother was Rachel Hicklin and his father Archibald > Kincaid, of Augusta County." > > > Barbara > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > The most likely is David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge, son of John/Elizabeth of > Bath. > His son David Nelson/Mary Ann Kincaid/Samantha? Kincaid. Mary Ann was > daughter of William/Elizabeth Temple Kincaid. David Nelson is on the 1850 > Augusta Co. age 35 so it is not him. > > David/Sarah's son John Hodge Kincaid/Juriah Gillum/Dorcas Henness. John > died > about 1860 Henry Co. IA. He had a son David Nelson Kincaid b 1841 > Bonaparte, > Van Buren IA. The John Hodge information was posted March 16, 2000 by > Evaleen Flanders Hoeller. This family moved to King Co., Washington. > Indiana > may have been a stop before moving on to IA. > > I think Barb found a census record in Montgomery Co. IND, which is where > Crawfordsville is that might shed a bit more light. > > Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid also had a son David b 1784 whom I don't > know much about. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:23 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > >> Do any of the Virginia Kincaid researchers recognize this David Kincaid? >> >> Sincerely >> Norman Kincaide >> >> 1829, David Kincaid, Bath County, Virginia, >> >> Certificate No. 7999, The United States of America, To all to whom these >> presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas David Kincaid of Bath County, >> Virginia has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, a >> Certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Detroit, whereby it >> appears that full payment has been made by the said David Kincaid >> according to the provisions of “An act of Congress of the 24th of April, >> 1820, entitled an act making further provision for the sale of Public >> Lands,” for the West half of the South West quarter of Section twenty >> four >> in Township twenty one north of Range four West in the District of lands >> offered for sale at Crawfordsville, Indiana, containing eighty acres, >> according to the official plat of the survey of the said lands, returned >> to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has >> been purchased by the said David Kincaid, Now Know Ye, That the United >> States of America, in >> consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several acts of >> Congress, in such case made and provided, Have Given And Granted, and by >> these presents Do Give And Grant, unto the said David Kincaid and to his >> heirs, the said tract above described: To Have and To Hold the same, >> together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appurtenances >> of >> whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said David Kincaid and >> to >> his heirs and assigns forever. In Testimony Whereof, I, Andrew Jackson, >> President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to >> be >> made Patent, and the Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto >> affixed, Given under my hand at the city of Washington, the twenty second >> day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty >> nine and of the Independence of the United States the fifty third, By the >> President: Andrew Jackson, ? Commissioner of the General Land Office. >> >> United States Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, General >> Land Office Records, Indiana, Vol. 102, p. 435, Accession Number: >> IN1020.435, State Volume Patent, Indiana, Date, May 22, 1829, Document >> Nr. >> 7999, 80.0 acres, Land Office, Crawfordsville, County, Tippecanoe, >> Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry. >> >> >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The last of 4749's upgrade to 67 markers has been returned. He matches 7529 who believes descent from John/Catherine Coulter at all markers from 38-67 except at marker 60 (DYS 446). 4749 has a 12 rather than the 13 for 7529. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:07 AM Subject: [KINCAID] New DNA results for 4749 > Results are starting to come in for #4749's upgrade from 24 to 67 markers. > The panel 3 (markers 25-37) have been returned. > > #4749 is in C-1. He believes descent from George Kincaid of Drumholm, > County > Donegal m Elizabeth Virt--- 1838. > On the first 24 markers he matches #88607 who believes descent from Joseph > from the same town b c1826 m Elizabeth Squire exactly. > In panel 3 he has 2 variances from #88607. > > #4749 has an 11 at marker 27 (GETAH4) rather than the 12 all other C-1 > members have. > At marker 38 (CDYb) he has a 38. This variance matches the 3 participants > who believe descent from John of Donegal b 1759 m Catherine Coulter. These > 3 > have a 13 at marker 8 (DYS388) while the others in the set have a 12. > > Sue Liedtke > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Barb. This fills in more of David's family. Since all the DNA samples proven to John of Bath are through son Charles, it would be nice to have a sample from this line. It should match as we know that William b 1806 of Gasconade Co. MO was not the son of Charles therefore must either represent the line of another of John of Bath's sons or that of a brother or cousin of some degree. Archibald/Rachel Hickland Kincaid refered to as the father of William J Kincaid toward the end of your post was the son of Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid. William J would have been a first cousin to John Hodge Kincaid. Isabella was the daughter of John of Bath. Thomas is thought to have been a brother of William/Agnes, proven son of Thomas/Margaret Lockhart Kincaid d 1750. We do not have a DNA sample from this line. Sue Liedtke > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Van Hout > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > The Bureau of Land Management has upgraded its website for land records. > There are several records for John H. (Hodge) Kincaid who bought land in > Tippecanoe County earlier than David Kincaid of Bath County, VA,, as early > as 4/3/1829. . > > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ > http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx > > It may be that David Kincaid went to Indiana to visit his son John and > daughter Elizabeth Wanless, and then returned to Virginia. > > David Kincaid a. 60-70 was in the 1830 Bath County, VA > census, with 3 males 1 a. 10-15; 1 a. 20-30; 1 a. 40-50; and David, a. > 60-70. There was 1 F a. 10-15 and 1 F a. 50-60 in his household. > > The 1820 Bath County, VA census, dated Dec. 25, 1820, shows David Kincaid > a. 45+ with 6 males (sons?) 2 a. to 10; 2 a. to 16; 1 a. 16-18; 1 a. > 16-26; > David a. 45+. There > were 3 females, 2 a. to 10 and and 1 a. 45+ in his household. > He was just below Charles and Ferdinand Kincaid in this census. Several > Gwinn > families are shown below David on this page. > > The Wanless Web has much information about David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge of > Bath > County, VA. It gives the records that prove John H. Kincaid's sister > married Stephen Wanless in Bath County, VA and this family was also in > Tippecanoe County in 1830, just above John Kincaid in this census. > http://www.wanlessweb.org/ > > The 1830 Federal Census for John H. Kincaid, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, > Randolph Township, shows two males age 20-30 in the household, 1 male > under > 5 and 1 female a. 20-30. > > RANDOLPH TOWNSHIP > > SUMMERS, Michael > SHUTTS, Christopher > RICHEY, Robert > BRIANT, Ganen > KERR, James > BERRY, Samuel > ROUDYBUSH, George > FUGETT, Joseph > MIKESELL, Parbley > ELLIS, Thomas > STUTSMAN, John > WANLESS, Stephen > KINCAID, John H. > JOURDEN, William > WRIGHT, Thomas J. > STORMS, Peter > HOLLODAY, Samuel > HOLLODAY, John > > > 1830 Indiana, Tippecanoe Co, Randolph Twp [roll 31, p.129] > Samuel Guinn > 1 male 40-50 > 1 female 40-50 > 1 female 20-30 > 2 females 15-20 > 2 females 10-15 > 1 male 10-15 > 1 female 5-10 > 1 male under 5 > --Beckie Rawdon says this is Samuel Gwinn who married Mary Magdalene > Johnson in Monroe County, WV. He left Tippecanoe and went to Carroll > county, IN where he died in 1856. > > Guinns of Augusta Co Virginia & Tippecanoe co Indiana > http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/tippegwins/D1.htm > > Message 392 on Kincaid Family Genforum: > "I am searching for info on Elizabeth Harriet Kinkead(Kincaid), born > 4-13-1807, who married Stephen Wandless Jr, on 2-5-1827 in Bath Co,VA. > Does > anyone know who her parents were?" > > ◦From Doug McGuire : (www.wanlessweb.org) > "I believe it can be proven beyond a doubt, through land, estate and > marriage > records, that John H and Elizabeth are bro and sis. > > I have seen federal land records, purchases out of the Crawfordsville, > IN federal land office, that tie John H Kincaid to Bath County, VA. The > time frame was around 1828-1830. His father David also purchased > Tippecanoe > County land but appears to have never lived there. He sells the land to > John a few years later. > > Finding the VA ancestry of William J. Kincaid was one of my > toughest challenges. The obscure clue I had was that John H Kincaid > purchased land in Carroll County, Indiana, and then sold it about 1837. > WJK > marries in Carroll County in 1844 and then appears in the 1850 census. So, > it appears that John H Kincaid & Stephen Wanless > and family came to Tippecanoe County around 1830. The Carroll County land > where JHK owned land, and where WJK settled are very close to each other, > and less than ten miles from where JHK was in Tippecanoe County. It was an > secluded obituary in the Western Christian Advocate, a weekly paper > published by the Methodist church that revealed that WJK came to Carroll > County around 1837 with his mother Rachel. Since the obit, I have > determined that his mother was Rachel Hicklin and his father Archibald > Kincaid, of Augusta County." > > > Barbara > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > The most likely is David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge, son of John/Elizabeth of > Bath. > His son David Nelson/Mary Ann Kincaid/Samantha? Kincaid. Mary Ann was > daughter of William/Elizabeth Temple Kincaid. David Nelson is on the 1850 > Augusta Co. age 35 so it is not him. > > David/Sarah's son John Hodge Kincaid/Juriah Gillum/Dorcas Henness. John > died > about 1860 Henry Co. IA. He had a son David Nelson Kincaid b 1841 > Bonaparte, > Van Buren IA. The John Hodge information was posted March 16, 2000 by > Evaleen Flanders Hoeller. This family moved to King Co., Washington. > Indiana > may have been a stop before moving on to IA. > > I think Barb found a census record in Montgomery Co. IND, which is where > Crawfordsville is that might shed a bit more light. > > Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid also had a son David b 1784 whom I don't > know much about. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:23 PM > Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > > >> Do any of the Virginia Kincaid researchers recognize this David Kincaid? >> >> Sincerely >> Norman Kincaide >> >> 1829, David Kincaid, Bath County, Virginia, >> >> Certificate No. 7999, The United States of America, To all to whom these >> presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas David Kincaid of Bath County, >> Virginia has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, a >> Certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Detroit, whereby it >> appears that full payment has been made by the said David Kincaid >> according to the provisions of “An act of Congress of the 24th of April, >> 1820, entitled an act making further provision for the sale of Public >> Lands,” for the West half of the South West quarter of Section twenty >> four >> in Township twenty one north of Range four West in the District of lands >> offered for sale at Crawfordsville, Indiana, containing eighty acres, >> according to the official plat of the survey of the said lands, returned >> to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has >> been purchased by the said David Kincaid, Now Know Ye, That the United >> States of America, in >> consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several acts of >> Congress, in such case made and provided, Have Given And Granted, and by >> these presents Do Give And Grant, unto the said David Kincaid and to his >> heirs, the said tract above described: To Have and To Hold the same, >> together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appurtenances >> of >> whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said David Kincaid and >> to >> his heirs and assigns forever. In Testimony Whereof, I, Andrew Jackson, >> President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to >> be >> made Patent, and the Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto >> affixed, Given under my hand at the city of Washington, the twenty second >> day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty >> nine and of the Independence of the United States the fifty third, By the >> President: Andrew Jackson, ? Commissioner of the General Land Office. >> >> United States Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, General >> Land Office Records, Indiana, Vol. 102, p. 435, Accession Number: >> IN1020.435, State Volume Patent, Indiana, Date, May 22, 1829, Document >> Nr. >> 7999, 80.0 acres, Land Office, Crawfordsville, County, Tippecanoe, >> Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry. >> >> >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: Barbara Van Hout Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 The Bureau of Land Management has upgraded its website for land records. There are several records for John H. (Hodge) Kincaid who bought land in Tippecanoe County earlier than David Kincaid of Bath County, VA,, as early as 4/3/1829. . http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx It may be that David Kincaid went to Indiana to visit his son John and daughter Elizabeth Wanless, and then returned to Virginia. David Kincaid a. 60-70 was in the 1830 Bath County, VA census, with 3 males 1 a. 10-15; 1 a. 20-30; 1 a. 40-50; and David, a. 60-70. There was 1 F a. 10-15 and 1 F a. 50-60 in his household. The 1820 Bath County, VA census, dated Dec. 25, 1820, shows David Kincaid a. 45+ with 6 males (sons?) 2 a. to 10; 2 a. to 16; 1 a. 16-18; 1 a. 16-26; David a. 45+. There were 3 females, 2 a. to 10 and and 1 a. 45+ in his household. He was just below Charles and Ferdinand Kincaid in this census. Several Gwinn families are shown below David on this page. The Wanless Web has much information about David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge of Bath County, VA. It gives the records that prove John H. Kincaid's sister married Stephen Wanless in Bath County, VA and this family was also in Tippecanoe County in 1830, just above John Kincaid in this census. http://www.wanlessweb.org/ The 1830 Federal Census for John H. Kincaid, Tippecanoe County, Indiana, Randolph Township, shows two males age 20-30 in the household, 1 male under 5 and 1 female a. 20-30. RANDOLPH TOWNSHIP SUMMERS, Michael SHUTTS, Christopher RICHEY, Robert BRIANT, Ganen KERR, James BERRY, Samuel ROUDYBUSH, George FUGETT, Joseph MIKESELL, Parbley ELLIS, Thomas STUTSMAN, John WANLESS, Stephen KINCAID, John H. JOURDEN, William WRIGHT, Thomas J. STORMS, Peter HOLLODAY, Samuel HOLLODAY, John 1830 Indiana, Tippecanoe Co, Randolph Twp [roll 31, p.129] Samuel Guinn 1 male 40-50 1 female 40-50 1 female 20-30 2 females 15-20 2 females 10-15 1 male 10-15 1 female 5-10 1 male under 5 --Beckie Rawdon says this is Samuel Gwinn who married Mary Magdalene Johnson in Monroe County, WV. He left Tippecanoe and went to Carroll county, IN where he died in 1856. Guinns of Augusta Co Virginia & Tippecanoe co Indiana http://www.riverduck.com/genealogy/gwin/tippegwins/D1.htm Message 392 on Kincaid Family Genforum: "I am searching for info on Elizabeth Harriet Kinkead(Kincaid), born 4-13-1807, who married Stephen Wandless Jr, on 2-5-1827 in Bath Co,VA. Does anyone know who her parents were?" ◦From Doug McGuire : (www.wanlessweb.org) "I believe it can be proven beyond a doubt, through land, estate and marriage records, that John H and Elizabeth are bro and sis. I have seen federal land records, purchases out of the Crawfordsville, IN federal land office, that tie John H Kincaid to Bath County, VA. The time frame was around 1828-1830. His father David also purchased Tippecanoe County land but appears to have never lived there. He sells the land to John a few years later. Finding the VA ancestry of William J. Kincaid was one of my toughest challenges. The obscure clue I had was that John H Kincaid purchased land in Carroll County, Indiana, and then sold it about 1837. WJK marries in Carroll County in 1844 and then appears in the 1850 census. So, it appears that John H Kincaid & Stephen Wanless and family came to Tippecanoe County around 1830. The Carroll County land where JHK owned land, and where WJK settled are very close to each other, and less than ten miles from where JHK was in Tippecanoe County. It was an secluded obituary in the Western Christian Advocate, a weekly paper published by the Methodist church that revealed that WJK came to Carroll County around 1837 with his mother Rachel. Since the obit, I have determined that his mother was Rachel Hicklin and his father Archibald Kincaid, of Augusta County." Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Sue Liedtke Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 The most likely is David Kincaid/Sarah Hodge, son of John/Elizabeth of Bath. His son David Nelson/Mary Ann Kincaid/Samantha? Kincaid. Mary Ann was daughter of William/Elizabeth Temple Kincaid. David Nelson is on the 1850 Augusta Co. age 35 so it is not him. David/Sarah's son John Hodge Kincaid/Juriah Gillum/Dorcas Henness. John died about 1860 Henry Co. IA. He had a son David Nelson Kincaid b 1841 Bonaparte, Van Buren IA. The John Hodge information was posted March 16, 2000 by Evaleen Flanders Hoeller. This family moved to King Co., Washington. Indiana may have been a stop before moving on to IA. I think Barb found a census record in Montgomery Co. IND, which is where Crawfordsville is that might shed a bit more light. Thomas/Isabella Kincaid Kincaid also had a son David b 1784 whom I don't know much about. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: [KINCAID] David Kincaid, Indiana Warrant 1829 > Do any of the Virginia Kincaid researchers recognize this David Kincaid? > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > 1829, David Kincaid, Bath County, Virginia, > > Certificate No. 7999, The United States of America, To all to whom these > presents shall come, Greeting: Whereas David Kincaid of Bath County, > Virginia has deposited in the General Land Office of the United States, a > Certificate of the Register of the Land Office at Detroit, whereby it > appears that full payment has been made by the said David Kincaid > according to the provisions of “An act of Congress of the 24th of April, > 1820, entitled an act making further provision for the sale of Public > Lands,” for the West half of the South West quarter of Section twenty four > in Township twenty one north of Range four West in the District of lands > offered for sale at Crawfordsville, Indiana, containing eighty acres, > according to the official plat of the survey of the said lands, returned > to the General Land Office by the Surveyor General, which said tract has > been purchased by the said David Kincaid, Now Know Ye, That the United > States of America, in > consideration of the premises, and in conformity with the several acts of > Congress, in such case made and provided, Have Given And Granted, and by > these presents Do Give And Grant, unto the said David Kincaid and to his > heirs, the said tract above described: To Have and To Hold the same, > together with all the rights, privileges, immunities, and appurtenances of > whatsoever nature, thereunto belonging, unto the said David Kincaid and to > his heirs and assigns forever. In Testimony Whereof, I, Andrew Jackson, > President of the United States of America, have caused these Letters to be > made Patent, and the Seal of the General Land Office to be hereunto > affixed, Given under my hand at the city of Washington, the twenty second > day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty > nine and of the Independence of the United States the fifty third, By the > President: Andrew Jackson, ? Commissioner of the General Land Office. > > United States Department of Interior, Bureau of Land Management, General > Land Office Records, Indiana, Vol. 102, p. 435, Accession Number: > IN1020.435, State Volume Patent, Indiana, Date, May 22, 1829, Document Nr. > 7999, 80.0 acres, Land Office, Crawfordsville, County, Tippecanoe, > Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry. > > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This and Alice's message was answered by private email. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk > Peter, You have an obvioiusly different printout from what I have. Any > chance of my obtaining a copy of what you have? I've never seen anything > like > what you have written below. > > Ruth > > > In a message dated 3/8/2011 3:03:59 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have a family history printout for the family with > the last page on Herbert Clarke Kincaid and his > family. The last line reads "It is up to Virginia > and Robert to continue this history from July, 1941." > Virginia and Robert were his children. It seems to > me that Herbert Clarke Kincaid was the author > and the printout was done in July, 1941 or soon > thereafter. > > On the 7th page of this history he writes "I--Samuel > Kincaid, Sr., eldest son of Alexander Kincaid, came to > America in 1746 with his wife (name not given) and > family. ..." > > He goes on the note George Kincaid as the second > son, Robert Kincaid the third son, and James Kincaid > the youngest son. > > I don't claim H.C. Kincaid to have been accurate but > this seems clear on what he understood to be the case. > > I agree that had Samuel not been the eldest son then > perhaps Samuel came in via the mother's father. > > Best wishes! > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that > Ilk > > >>I have tried to track the sources in the past and only go around in a >> circle. I think I find a source and then find that when I track it > further >> someone got it from Herbert C. Kincaid. Very frustrating. >> >> The George Kinkead killed on Jackson River in 1756 was married to >> Elizabeth >> Dean and had a son Samuel from whom the line I research descends. >> Through >> some non-concrete evidence, George and Elizabeth Dean appear to have > also >> had a son John who in turn also named a son Samuel. I cannot find >> where >> Herbert C. Kincaid states that Samuel was the eldest son. I can only > find >> that >> he calls them four brothers without saying who was born when or he says >> Samuel and his brothers. I will re-read it again very carefully to see >> where I >> might have missed the age reference. >> >> To hypothesize further, perhaps the name Samuel came into favor from >> Alexander's wife's father? This could be true if Samuel was in fact NOT >> the >> eldest. >> >> I'm in the middle of re-painting the house, remodeling a bathroom etc >> and >> have dust everywhere. Please have patience with me if my memory is > faulty >> as >> I don't know where anything is at the moment. <grin> >> >> Ruth >> >> >> >> In a message dated 3/8/2011 8:59:22 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Another problem I have with Herbert C. Kincaid's story of the >> sons of Alexander is that he states that Samuel was the eldest >> son. Samuel is not a name used by Kincaids in Scotland other >> than one occurance in the Mochrum Parish area of Ayrshire in >> the late 1600s. >> >> Has anyone seen papers of Herbert Clarke Kincaid? It would >> be nice to trace the earliest reference to this story. >> >> Peter >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Alexander Kincaid, son of James Kincaid of that >> Ilk >> >> >>> Peter, >>> >>> WOW - I like possibilities <grin> and no, I will be a good > genealogist >>> and >>> won't take it as proof of the four brothers. Could you please tell us >>> where a copy of this petition may be obtained? >>> >>> Ruth Cherecwich >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/7/2011 7:19:16 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> I want to note that there was a petition by the heritors of >>> Stirling dated 27 May 1700 which was signed by J. Kincaid >>> of that Ilk and Alexander Kincaid, brother to the Laird of >>> Kincaid. The J. Kincaid of that Ilk was John Kincaid of >>> that Ilk, son of James Kincaid of that Ilk and Marion Boyd >>> of Trochrig. There is nothing to say that Alexander was >>> a legitimate brother of John or the son of Marion Boyd. >>> However, he could very well have been. This is the first time >>> I located a reference to Alexander. I previously noted that I >>> had not found any evidence of a brother Alexander but I did >>> find that John had an illegitimate son named Alexander. I have >>> no idea what became of Alexander, brother of John. >>> >>> One will certainly look to the story of the four sons of >>> Alexander Kincaid who supposedly came to America during >>> the Jacobite rebellion. This is in no way proves that story >>> but it does give some supporting evidence because the Alexander >>> was stated to have been born about 1670 and was the second >>> son. He certainly fits timeline wise. However, the same story says >>> that another son, Alexander, remained in Scotland and became >>> Lord Provost of Edinburgh. That part is clearly a provable >>> myth. So one has to treat the story with caution but there may >>> be some meat to it. >>> >>> Best wishes! >>> >>> Peter A. Kincaid >>> Fredericton, NB, Canada > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kinca > id%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message