In comparing the lineage information you posted with those vetted, I suspect that Leslie may not have vetted anyone based on your work. These are the vetted lines which you provided lineage info for in 2005: #6157, #9295, #11194, #1427, #1255, #4588, #1261, & #4164. Some of these we have posts for and some I know were vetted by Leslie. Now that I think about it, you were required to submit info to Leslie before she marked #1474 as vetted. I know #1427 was vetted by Leslie. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > One other thing I would like to point out is that not all > participants undertook a review. In some cases, all that > was provided was who they believe their earliest known > ancestor was. If that was grandfathered in then it really > is no help. > > I have not been able to do much genealogy since last Fall > due to personal matters, but when I am able to get up to speed > again I will go through my material and provide a list kit nos with > lineages that I reviewed. For those who may have a copy of > the old web page I compiled, that can be used as a guide > in the meantime. > > Peter > > >> The suggestion was made that those grandfathered in just "copy" their >> lineages and post them. Since earlier process did not involve producing a >> succinct compilation on a computor, there may not be anything to copy, >> therefore, it would be an undue hardship for the participant to produce a >> lineage post. > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
We have missed you Peter. I hope that you are able to return soon. Meredith kincaid Sent from my iPod On May 5, 2011, at 2:17 PM, "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> wrote: > One other thing I would like to point out is that not all > participants undertook a review. In some cases, all that > was provided was who they believe their earliest known > ancestor was. If that was grandfathered in then it really > is no help. > > I have not been able to do much genealogy since last Fall > due to personal matters, but when I am able to get up to speed > again I will go through my material and provide a list kit nos with > lineages that I reviewed. For those who may have a copy of > the old web page I compiled, that can be used as a guide > in the meantime. > > Peter > > >> The suggestion was made that those grandfathered in just "copy" their >> lineages and post them. Since earlier process did not involve producing a >> succinct compilation on a computor, there may not be anything to copy, >> therefore, it would be an undue hardship for the participant to produce a >> lineage post. > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
One other thing I would like to point out is that not all participants undertook a review. In some cases, all that was provided was who they believe their earliest known ancestor was. If that was grandfathered in then it really is no help. I have not been able to do much genealogy since last Fall due to personal matters, but when I am able to get up to speed again I will go through my material and provide a list kit nos with lineages that I reviewed. For those who may have a copy of the old web page I compiled, that can be used as a guide in the meantime. Peter > The suggestion was made that those grandfathered in just "copy" their > lineages and post them. Since earlier process did not involve producing a > succinct compilation on a computor, there may not be anything to copy, > therefore, it would be an undue hardship for the participant to produce a > lineage post.
I believe I would have a copy for #49289 if there is interest in me delivering it to someone. On May 5, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Sue Liedtke wrote: > Peter, I was not suggesting that you did not thoroughly review the material > before making an assessment only that the term "vetted" was not used by you > and that neither you nor Leslie required proven lineages be disclosed to the > list. It is precisely because both of you did do a thorough review that it > was possible to "grandfather" in those participants who went through the > process with either of you. > > The suggestion was made that those grandfathered in just "copy" their > lineages and post them. Since earlier process did not involve producing a > succinct compilation on a computor, there may not be anything to copy, > therefore, it would be an undue hardship for the participant to produce a > lineage post. > > Perhaps it might help those interested to know that any vetted participant > from #63547 on will have a vetting post. Those with lower numbers may or may > not have been "vetted" by either you or Leslie prior to the present system. > > Sue Liedtke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > >> This is incorrect. Participants sent me what they knew >> of their lineage and I went through it thoroughly as one >> does when lines are posted to the list. I requested >> follow-up information and obtained what I could >> on their line from the sources available to me. Some >> sent me material by mail. This material I sent to Sue. >> Based on this process I prepared a brief lineage for >> the web page and used terms like "participant believes" >> to highlight that conclusive information was not presented >> to me for the connection. Leslie basically did the same >> type of review except that she personally had access to >> more US sources to personally review. I think a >> number of participants can attest how much of a pain >> I was to 1) understand the details of their line and >> 2) not suggest something conclusive that was not. >> >> With regards to the notion of a line being designated >> "vetted" in a table, I did not wish to give such labels. >> This was a development by my successors. >> >> My review of participant lineages was done on the >> understanding that I would keep confidential what the >> participant wanted. What was presented on the web >> page was what they reviewed and consented to. If the >> participant wanted anything made public they could post it >> themselves to the list. While I understand the interest in >> participants' lineages I respect participant privacy wishes. >> >> One can contact the person directly if they wish participant >> lineages. Contact information is available on their own FTDNA >> web pages under matches or from Don Kincaid; albeit he >> has his own privacy guidelines to follow. >> >> Peter Kincaid >> Fredericton, NB >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids >> >> >>> We didn't keep track of who was vetted before the current process was >>> adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not actually "vet" >>> lines >>> but rather used words in short lineage compilations to indicate his view >>> on >>> whether the line was valid. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Bob Arnott [email protected] (303)741-3468 (h) (303) 475-9885 (c)
I think you did post to the list. Norman may have already captured your post. It should be noted that some participants with numbers lower than #63547 were vetted using the current system. Kits above that number were received by the current administration and would have been vetted with a post. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Arnott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids >I believe I would have a copy for #49289 if there is interest in me >delivering it to someone. > On May 5, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Sue Liedtke wrote: > >> Peter, I was not suggesting that you did not thoroughly review the >> material >> before making an assessment only that the term "vetted" was not used by >> you >> and that neither you nor Leslie required proven lineages be disclosed to >> the >> list. It is precisely because both of you did do a thorough review that >> it >> was possible to "grandfather" in those participants who went through the >> process with either of you. >> >> The suggestion was made that those grandfathered in just "copy" their >> lineages and post them. Since earlier process did not involve producing a >> succinct compilation on a computor, there may not be anything to copy, >> therefore, it would be an undue hardship for the participant to produce a >> lineage post. >> >> Perhaps it might help those interested to know that any vetted >> participant >> from #63547 on will have a vetting post. Those with lower numbers may or >> may >> not have been "vetted" by either you or Leslie prior to the present >> system. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids >> >> >>> This is incorrect. Participants sent me what they knew >>> of their lineage and I went through it thoroughly as one >>> does when lines are posted to the list. I requested >>> follow-up information and obtained what I could >>> on their line from the sources available to me. Some >>> sent me material by mail. This material I sent to Sue. >>> Based on this process I prepared a brief lineage for >>> the web page and used terms like "participant believes" >>> to highlight that conclusive information was not presented >>> to me for the connection. Leslie basically did the same >>> type of review except that she personally had access to >>> more US sources to personally review. I think a >>> number of participants can attest how much of a pain >>> I was to 1) understand the details of their line and >>> 2) not suggest something conclusive that was not. >>> >>> With regards to the notion of a line being designated >>> "vetted" in a table, I did not wish to give such labels. >>> This was a development by my successors. >>> >>> My review of participant lineages was done on the >>> understanding that I would keep confidential what the >>> participant wanted. What was presented on the web >>> page was what they reviewed and consented to. If the >>> participant wanted anything made public they could post it >>> themselves to the list. While I understand the interest in >>> participants' lineages I respect participant privacy wishes. >>> >>> One can contact the person directly if they wish participant >>> lineages. Contact information is available on their own FTDNA >>> web pages under matches or from Don Kincaid; albeit he >>> has his own privacy guidelines to follow. >>> >>> Peter Kincaid >>> Fredericton, NB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids >>> >>> >>>> We didn't keep track of who was vetted before the current process was >>>> adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not actually "vet" >>>> lines >>>> but rather used words in short lineage compilations to indicate his >>>> view >>>> on >>>> whether the line was valid. >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 6095 (20110504) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Bob Arnott > [email protected] > (303)741-3468 (h) > (303) 475-9885 (c) > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Peter, I was not suggesting that you did not thoroughly review the material before making an assessment only that the term "vetted" was not used by you and that neither you nor Leslie required proven lineages be disclosed to the list. It is precisely because both of you did do a thorough review that it was possible to "grandfather" in those participants who went through the process with either of you. The suggestion was made that those grandfathered in just "copy" their lineages and post them. Since earlier process did not involve producing a succinct compilation on a computor, there may not be anything to copy, therefore, it would be an undue hardship for the participant to produce a lineage post. Perhaps it might help those interested to know that any vetted participant from #63547 on will have a vetting post. Those with lower numbers may or may not have been "vetted" by either you or Leslie prior to the present system. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > This is incorrect. Participants sent me what they knew > of their lineage and I went through it thoroughly as one > does when lines are posted to the list. I requested > follow-up information and obtained what I could > on their line from the sources available to me. Some > sent me material by mail. This material I sent to Sue. > Based on this process I prepared a brief lineage for > the web page and used terms like "participant believes" > to highlight that conclusive information was not presented > to me for the connection. Leslie basically did the same > type of review except that she personally had access to > more US sources to personally review. I think a > number of participants can attest how much of a pain > I was to 1) understand the details of their line and > 2) not suggest something conclusive that was not. > > With regards to the notion of a line being designated > "vetted" in a table, I did not wish to give such labels. > This was a development by my successors. > > My review of participant lineages was done on the > understanding that I would keep confidential what the > participant wanted. What was presented on the web > page was what they reviewed and consented to. If the > participant wanted anything made public they could post it > themselves to the list. While I understand the interest in > participants' lineages I respect participant privacy wishes. > > One can contact the person directly if they wish participant > lineages. Contact information is available on their own FTDNA > web pages under matches or from Don Kincaid; albeit he > has his own privacy guidelines to follow. > > Peter Kincaid > Fredericton, NB > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:36 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > >> We didn't keep track of who was vetted before the current process was >> adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not actually "vet" >> lines >> but rather used words in short lineage compilations to indicate his view >> on >> whether the line was valid. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 6095 (20110504) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 6095 (20110504) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 6095 (20110504) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 6095 (20110504) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
It is in A-1a just above 80852 and the Augusta Co. section. I do not have dates or location for Washington/Sarah Meadows. If you would send me an e-mail with this information, I will add it to the chart. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron & Ginger Kincade" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > What happened to our entry 129678 - Washington Kincade? Did I miss it on > the > DNA chart? > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Mary Lou Clegg > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting >> and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. >> >> What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some >> way >> to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by >> the >> list members? >> >> Mary Lou >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
What happened to our entry 129678 - Washington Kincade? Did I miss it on the DNA chart? On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Mary Lou Clegg <[email protected]>wrote: > Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting > and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. > > What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some way > to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by the > list members? > > Mary Lou > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
This is incorrect. Participants sent me what they knew of their lineage and I went through it thoroughly as one does when lines are posted to the list. I requested follow-up information and obtained what I could on their line from the sources available to me. Some sent me material by mail. This material I sent to Sue. Based on this process I prepared a brief lineage for the web page and used terms like "participant believes" to highlight that conclusive information was not presented to me for the connection. Leslie basically did the same type of review except that she personally had access to more US sources to personally review. I think a number of participants can attest how much of a pain I was to 1) understand the details of their line and 2) not suggest something conclusive that was not. With regards to the notion of a line being designated "vetted" in a table, I did not wish to give such labels. This was a development by my successors. My review of participant lineages was done on the understanding that I would keep confidential what the participant wanted. What was presented on the web page was what they reviewed and consented to. If the participant wanted anything made public they could post it themselves to the list. While I understand the interest in participants' lineages I respect participant privacy wishes. One can contact the person directly if they wish participant lineages. Contact information is available on their own FTDNA web pages under matches or from Don Kincaid; albeit he has his own privacy guidelines to follow. Peter Kincaid Fredericton, NB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > We didn't keep track of who was vetted before the current process was > adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not actually "vet" > lines > but rather used words in short lineage compilations to indicate his view > on > whether the line was valid. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6095 (20110504) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6095 (20110504) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6095 (20110504) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6095 (20110504) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Norm, Could you please forward me the copy of the vetting post you are using? I had to revise the original vetting post because of one great error and want to make sure the correct one is used. Thanks, Ruth Cherecwich -----Original Message----- From: Norman Kincaide <[email protected]> To: kincaid <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 11:01 am Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids I did find Ruth's vetting post from 2005 and have added it to the list I have ompiled. I add each new vetting post to my compilation once all comments and uestions have been addressed and is considered vetted. I'll go through the incaid list archives again to see if I missed any. I just found Ruth's vetting ost yesterday. Sincerely orman Kincaide --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 2:36 PM We didn't keep track of who was vetted before the current process was adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not actually "vet" lines but rather used words in short lineage compilations to indicate his view on whether the line was valid. The chart was developed in its present form while Leslie was administrator. She alone would communicate with participants then tell me when she was vetting a line and who it was to be vetted to. I do not think she required a formal, consolidated listing of each link though I know she did require proof documents before vetting a line. Don and Ruth each went through the vetting process with her and would know better what she required. She would also do some research on her own and may have vetted some lines based on that research. Anyone vetted during her tenure may not have anything to "copy" and would have to develop a post from scratch. While it is desirable and encouraged that all vetted lines make their lineage proofs available, the current administrative team feels that it would be an undo burden to require each participant to go through the vetting process for a second time in order to maintain their vetted statice. It might also be added that some participants are no longer actively doing Kincaid research and would not be interested or able to repeat the process.. Norman has done an excellant job in combing the archives. If a post was made it should be on his site. If a lineage does not appear there, the stated ancestor was likely vetted by Leslie. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > How do we know who has been grandfathered? Is there at least a list of > who > was vetted and who they were vetted to? > > Could we have anyone on the list who was vetted earlier send a copy of it > to > the list so the information would be available to us. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > >> If someone was vetted before the current method, they are "grandfathered" >> in >> without sending a post or going through the list vetting process. >> Unfortunately we do not have the lineage information available. You would >> need to contact each person whose lineage you are interested in. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:58 AM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids >> >> >>> Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting >>> and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. >>> >>> What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some >>> way >>> to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by >>> the list members? >>> >>> Mary Lou >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls To join the DNA project, go to: ww.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
Sure, I have attached it. If it needs correction, please insert them and send it back and I will upload the corrected version. Norman Kincaide --- On Wed, 5/4/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 5:49 PM > > Norm, Could you please forward me the copy of the vetting > post you are using? I had to revise the original vetting > post because of one great error and want to make sure the > correct one is used. > > Thanks, > > Ruth Cherecwich > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norman Kincaide <[email protected]> > To: kincaid <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 11:01 am > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > > I did find Ruth's vetting post from 2005 and have added it > to the list I have > ompiled. I add each new vetting post to my compilation once > all comments and > uestions have been addressed and is considered vetted. I'll > go through the > incaid list archives again to see if I missed any. I just > found Ruth's vetting > ost yesterday. > Sincerely > orman Kincaide > --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> > wrote: > > From: Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 2:36 PM > We didn't keep track of who was > vetted before the current process was > adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not > actually "vet" lines > but rather used words in short lineage compilations to > indicate his view on > whether the line was valid. The chart was developed in > its > present form > while Leslie was administrator. She alone would > communicate > with > participants then tell me when she was vetting a line and > who it was to be > vetted to. I do not think she required a formal, > consolidated listing of > each link though I know she did require proof documents > before vetting a > line. Don and Ruth each went through the vetting process > with her and would > know better what she required. She would also do some > research on her own > and may have vetted some lines based on that research. > Anyone vetted during > her tenure may not have anything to "copy" and would have > to develop a post > from scratch. While it is desirable and encouraged that > all > vetted lines > make their lineage proofs available, the current > administrative team feels > that it would be an undo burden to require each > participant > to go through > the vetting process for a second time in order to > maintain > their vetted > statice. It might also be added that some participants > are > no longer > actively doing Kincaid research and would not be > interested > or able to > repeat the process.. > > Norman has done an excellant job in combing the archives. > If a post was made > it should be on his site. If a lineage does not appear > there, the stated > ancestor was likely vetted by Leslie. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > > > How do we know who has been grandfathered? Is > there at least a list of > > who > > was vetted and who they were vetted to? > > > > Could we have anyone on the list who was vetted > earlier send a copy of it > > to > > the list so the information would be available to > us. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > > > > >> If someone was vetted before the current method, > they are "grandfathered" > >> in > >> without sending a post or going through the list > vetting process. > >> Unfortunately we do not have the lineage > information available. You would > >> need to contact each person whose lineage you > are > interested in. > >> > >> Sue Liedtke > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:58 AM > >> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > >> > >> > >>> Norman has done a great service to all of us > by creating Kincaid Vetting > >>> and Lineage Post Central. It makes the > posts so much easier to find. > >>> > >>> What about the vettings that were done > before > the list? Is there some > >>> way > >>> to find them? Are they considered > valid > or do they need to be vetted by > >>> the list members? > >>> > >>> Mary Lou > >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA > chart > in Excel: > >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >>> > >>> To join the DNA project, go to: > >>> > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >>> > >> > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in > Excel: > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> To join the DNA project, go to: > >> > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email > to > >> [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >> > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in > Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > To join the DNA project, go to: > > > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > To join the DNA project, go to: > ww.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > he message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
I did find Ruth's vetting post from 2005 and have added it to the list I have compiled. I add each new vetting post to my compilation once all comments and questions have been addressed and is considered vetted. I'll go through the Kincaid list archives again to see if I missed any. I just found Ruth's vetting post yesterday. Sincerely Norman Kincaide --- On Wed, 5/4/11, Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 2:36 PM > We didn't keep track of who was > vetted before the current process was > adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not > actually "vet" lines > but rather used words in short lineage compilations to > indicate his view on > whether the line was valid. The chart was developed in its > present form > while Leslie was administrator. She alone would communicate > with > participants then tell me when she was vetting a line and > who it was to be > vetted to. I do not think she required a formal, > consolidated listing of > each link though I know she did require proof documents > before vetting a > line. Don and Ruth each went through the vetting process > with her and would > know better what she required. She would also do some > research on her own > and may have vetted some lines based on that research. > Anyone vetted during > her tenure may not have anything to "copy" and would have > to develop a post > from scratch. While it is desirable and encouraged that all > vetted lines > make their lineage proofs available, the current > administrative team feels > that it would be an undo burden to require each participant > to go through > the vetting process for a second time in order to maintain > their vetted > statice. It might also be added that some participants are > no longer > actively doing Kincaid research and would not be interested > or able to > repeat the process.. > > Norman has done an excellant job in combing the archives. > If a post was made > it should be on his site. If a lineage does not appear > there, the stated > ancestor was likely vetted by Leslie. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > > > How do we know who has been grandfathered? Is > there at least a list of > > who > > was vetted and who they were vetted to? > > > > Could we have anyone on the list who was vetted > earlier send a copy of it > > to > > the list so the information would be available to us. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > > > > >> If someone was vetted before the current method, > they are "grandfathered" > >> in > >> without sending a post or going through the list > vetting process. > >> Unfortunately we do not have the lineage > information available. You would > >> need to contact each person whose lineage you are > interested in. > >> > >> Sue Liedtke > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:58 AM > >> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > >> > >> > >>> Norman has done a great service to all of us > by creating Kincaid Vetting > >>> and Lineage Post Central. It makes the > posts so much easier to find. > >>> > >>> What about the vettings that were done before > the list? Is there some > >>> way > >>> to find them? Are they considered valid > or do they need to be vetted by > >>> the list members? > >>> > >>> Mary Lou > >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart > in Excel: > >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >>> > >>> To join the DNA project, go to: > >>> > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >>> > >> > >> > >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in > Excel: > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > >> > >> To join the DNA project, go to: > >> > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in > Excel: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > > > To join the DNA project, go to: > > > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
We didn't keep track of who was vetted before the current process was adopted. Our first administrator was Peter. He did not actually "vet" lines but rather used words in short lineage compilations to indicate his view on whether the line was valid. The chart was developed in its present form while Leslie was administrator. She alone would communicate with participants then tell me when she was vetting a line and who it was to be vetted to. I do not think she required a formal, consolidated listing of each link though I know she did require proof documents before vetting a line. Don and Ruth each went through the vetting process with her and would know better what she required. She would also do some research on her own and may have vetted some lines based on that research. Anyone vetted during her tenure may not have anything to "copy" and would have to develop a post from scratch. While it is desirable and encouraged that all vetted lines make their lineage proofs available, the current administrative team feels that it would be an undo burden to require each participant to go through the vetting process for a second time in order to maintain their vetted statice. It might also be added that some participants are no longer actively doing Kincaid research and would not be interested or able to repeat the process.. Norman has done an excellant job in combing the archives. If a post was made it should be on his site. If a lineage does not appear there, the stated ancestor was likely vetted by Leslie. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > How do we know who has been grandfathered? Is there at least a list of > who > was vetted and who they were vetted to? > > Could we have anyone on the list who was vetted earlier send a copy of it > to > the list so the information would be available to us. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > >> If someone was vetted before the current method, they are "grandfathered" >> in >> without sending a post or going through the list vetting process. >> Unfortunately we do not have the lineage information available. You would >> need to contact each person whose lineage you are interested in. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:58 AM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids >> >> >>> Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting >>> and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. >>> >>> What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some >>> way >>> to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by >>> the list members? >>> >>> Mary Lou >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
How do we know who has been grandfathered? Is there at least a list of who was vetted and who they were vetted to? Could we have anyone on the list who was vetted earlier send a copy of it to the list so the information would be available to us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Liedtke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > If someone was vetted before the current method, they are "grandfathered" > in > without sending a post or going through the list vetting process. > Unfortunately we do not have the lineage information available. You would > need to contact each person whose lineage you are interested in. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:58 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > > >> Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting >> and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. >> >> What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some >> way >> to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by >> the list members? >> >> Mary Lou >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
If someone was vetted before the current method, they are "grandfathered" in without sending a post or going through the list vetting process. Unfortunately we do not have the lineage information available. You would need to contact each person whose lineage you are interested in. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Clegg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:58 AM Subject: [KINCAID] Vetted Kincaids > Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting > and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. > > What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some way > to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by > the list members? > > Mary Lou > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Norman has done a great service to all of us by creating Kincaid Vetting and Lineage Post Central. It makes the posts so much easier to find. What about the vettings that were done before the list? Is there some way to find them? Are they considered valid or do they need to be vetted by the list members? Mary Lou
I just received this note from Linda Hoskins and thought it might be of interest to some of our Kincaid's. Also, I wanted to test and see if this note made it to the list for they have been bouncing back Toney Kincaid 33001 I am now the Clan Kincaid Commissioner for West Virginia. We are planning on going to the Bridgeport, WV scottish games on Saturday, May 7. I'm trying to compile as much information as possible to take with me. Since we will be representing Clan Kincaid I hope to have some come by our booth and talk and I will try and get some additional information (if they have any) on the Kincaid family. THANKS for keeping my on the list and informed on information, especially deaths. That one yesterday I saw in the Charleston paper but there was one the other day no one has mentioned. I am not at home right now but will e-mail you the obit from the other day if you want it. Best Wishes, Linda Hoskins
As further "evidence" but not preponderance is the indication in the Lewis County, WV death registry entry for Thomas Kincaid (Davis/Claypole) is the notation of his father as S. Kincaid born in Greenbrier County, Va. Ironically a L. Claypole the informant listed in this entry is noted as his "daughter". Until his death this relationship was on the "QT". After his death the three children changed their last names from Claypole to Kincaid in practice if not legally. The death in 1873 at an age of 80 matches within 2 years the age of 49 (possibly 47) listed in the 1850 Lewis County census for Thomas Kincaid. I will again visit Lewis County on my annual pilgramage to WV later this month but will not revisit the Kincaid Cemetery near Duffy, WV. On May 2, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Sue Liedtke wrote: > Samuel Kincaid appears to be Samuel m 1st Mary Tincher 1785, 2nd Huldah > Osborne 1802, 3rd Diana Ewing 1828. This Samuel and probably the John listed > on the slip appear to be the sons of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I say appear as > the links haven't been vetted but it is clear to Fayette researchers that > these are the correct linkages. I am currently working on a post spelling > out why we believe these connections are true. It will be a complicated post > and I will need to consult with all affected participant/researchers before > sending it to the list. It seemed best to vet participants back as far as > possible before an attempt is made to bring this family together. > > It should be noted that Linda Purdue made an attempt several years ago to > connect the participants who decend from James Gillespie Kincaid through > John/Elizabeth Gillespie to Thomas/Hannah. The attempt failed but will be > revisited at a later time.. > > Fayette researchers are quite clear as to who the children of Thomas/Hannah > are and have land transfers and court documents to prove most of them. > Unfortunately proving that this Samuel and this John are indeed the sons of > Thomas/Hannah must rely on a strong GPS proof. > > Right now the linkage from George Washington to Thomas/Mary (Polly) Davis is > the one we need to know about. Does this link work? Are there any questions > about the links up to George Washington? Michael will be leaving on vacation > soon and would like to be able to answer questions before he does. > > Toney has a post ready for #156149 who believes decent from Thomas/Lucinda > Claypool. A discussion about the controversy on who this Thomas is would > best be rendered at that time. He is having difficulty sending the post to > the list and may be waiting until discussion on the current post has > occured. > > Sue Liedtke > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 to Fayette > Co. WV[VA] > > >> Is there any reason why this line can't be vetted further from Thomas >> Kincaid to Samuel Kincaid named in the hand written permission slip? Who >> is the Samuel Kincaid listed on the permission slip? And the John Kincaid, >> the witness? >> >> Sincerely >> Norman Kincaide >> >> --- On Sat, 4/30/11, Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> From: Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 to >>> Fayette Co. WV[VA] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 4:07 PM >>> It would be wonderful if those of you >>> who have a few minutes could look over >>> this post as to the viability of the links. Comments and >>> questioned are >>> welcome. >>> >>> The last link from George Washington to Thomas/Polly Davis >>> is of special >>> interest as it affects 2 other participants (#49289 & >>> #135736) vetted to >>> George Washington/Mary Catherine Campbell through son >>> George William/Lula >>> Jane Burke. Lines down from Thomas/Mary (Polly) Davis >>> apparently mutate >>> readily. #136736 has the Apparent Ancestral Values for >>> Group A. Both 49289 >>> and 152189 have 2 variances from the AAV which do not match >>> each other. >>> #33001 who is vetted to Thomas/Polly has one variance from >>> the Group A AAV. >>> #101753, vetted to Harvey Kincaid who is believed to be a >>> descendent of >>> Thomas/Polly, has 1 variance from the AAV (does not match >>> the others). >>> >>> #152191 and #155289 are believed to descend from Danial >>> Thomas Kincaid, son >>> of George Washington. Both have the same variances as >>> 152189. 152191 has one >>> additional variance. Vetting posts for these lines may >>> appear at a later >>> time. >>> >>> A brief comment on the death date for Thomas/Polly Davis >>> which is based on >>> the belief of descendents that Thomas abandoned his Fayette >>> Co. family and >>> started a new family in Lewis Co. VA/WVA (believed >>> descendent #156149 who >>> has no mutations from Group A AAV). Bob Arnott and the >>> Lewis Co clerks >>> office have determined that the actual death date for Lewis >>> Co. Thomas is >>> 1873 as the entry appears among other 1873 deaths. A >>> vetting post for >>> #156149 to Thomas/Lucinda Claypool of Lewis Co. should >>> appear within the >>> week. >>> >>> Thomas of Fayette Co. disappears from tax lists in the late >>> 1840's. Mary, >>> age 53 widow appears in the 1850 Fayette Co. census along >>> with Isabella 17 >>> and Mary C. age 17 in the household of Thomas age 21 >>> married within the >>> year. Isabella is the sister of Mary Catherine Campbell, >>> wife of George >>> Washington. This Thomas's second marriage record to Eliza >>> Townsend states >>> his parents as Thomas & Mary Kincaid. For this and >>> other reasons best left >>> to another post we believe that Mary, widow is Mary (Polly) >>> Davis Kincaid. >>> #130207 believes descent from Thomas/Eliza Townsend. He has >>> 3 variances from >>> the Group A AAV. >>> >>> Whether Thomas died in Lewis Co. 1873 or prior to 1850 in >>> Fayette Co. does >>> not affect linking of George Washington to Thomas/Polly >>> Davis. >>> >>> Sue Liedtke >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Michael Clegg" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:11 AM >>> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid >>> #152189 to Fayette Co. >>> WV[VA] >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Participant #152189 Charles Edward Kincaid >>>> Group A-1a Fayette Co. >>>> Researcher/contact Michael and Mary Lou Clegg >>>> >>>> Lineage Review >>>> Charles Edward Kincaid 1929-2010 >>>> Newman Early Kincaid 1874-1954 >>>> Daniel Thomas Kincaid 1848-1929 >>>> George W. Kincaid 1818-1898 >>>> Thomas Kincaid 1795-1875? >>>> _______________________________ >>>> CHARLES EDWARD KINCAID >>>> Born 6 Jul 1929 Tupper’s Plains, Meigs Co. OH >>>> Married 25 May 1950 Richmond, Wayne Co. IN to >>> Elizabeth Belle Eubanks >>>> Died 30 Mar 2010 Veterans Hospital, Salem, Roanoke >>> Co.VA >>>> >>>> Son of Newman Early Kincaid and Rebecca Florence Hill >>>> >>>> Proven by: >>>> >>>> State of OH birth record #H2170475, file #1929062275 >>> for Charles Edward >>>> Kincaid. >>>> Date of birth 6 Jul 1929, Birthplace OH, Sex male, >>> Mother’s name >>>> Florence Kincaid, maiden name Hill, Father’s name >>> Newman Kincaid, mother >>>> and father both born WV >>>> >>>> 1930 Census Lubeck, Wood Co. WV, ED 3 p.30B, roll >>> 2558, 2 May 1930 >>>> Newman E. Kincaid head 56 mar at age 27 farmer WV WV >>> WV (all listed the >>>> same) >>>> Florence wife 45 mar at age 19 >>>> J. Virgie son 27 farm laborer >>>> Otto D. son 24 truck driver/milk route >>>> Hazel dau 19 >>>> Rubal dau 17 >>>> Dorsel E. son 16 >>>> Rosella dau 12 >>>> Jewell son 10 >>>> James M. son 8 >>>> Newman E. Jr. son 6 >>>> Kenneth L. son 4 >>>> Charles E. son 9/12 >>>> >>>> I [Michael Clegg] knew Charlie [my great-uncle] who >>> was acknowledged to >>>> be the son of Newman Early Kincaid and Rebecca >>> Florence Hill and >>>> grandson of Daniel Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen >>> Brannon, by all of >>>> his older brothers and sisters, most of whom I also >>> knew well. >>>> _________________________________ >>>> NEWMAN EARLY KINCAID >>>> Born 28 Mar 1874 Spencer, Roane Co. WV >>>> Married 18 Aug 1901 Spencer, Roane Co. WV to Rebecca >>> Florence Hill >>>> Died 18 May 1954 Galena, Delaware Co. OH >>>> >>>> Son of Daniel Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon >>>> >>>> Proven by: >>>> 1900 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV, ED 102 p.1B, 1 >>> Jun 1900 >>>> Daniel Kincaid head Sep 1848 m 27y farmer WV WV WV >>> (all listed the >>>> same) >>>> Martha A wife Jun 1855 m. 27y >>>> Newman E son Mar 1875 farmer >>>> John M [S] son Mar 1878 farm laborer >>>> Orta G [Otto G] son Mar 1880 farm laborer >>>> Elden C son Jan 1882 farm laborer >>>> Roxie M. dau Apr 1884 at school >>>> Martha M dau Apr 1886 at school >>>> Daniel R son Jan 1888 farm laborer >>>> Lexie A dau Oct 1890 at school >>>> Dona E dau Feb 1892 at school >>>> Alva A son Mar 1895 >>>> Emma O dau Feb 1899 >>>> >>>> 1880 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV, ED 123 p. 67D, >>> roll 1413, 11 Jun >>>> 1880 >>>> Daniel T. Kincade 30 farmer VA VA VA >>>> Martha E. 26 wife VA VA VA >>>> Newman E. son 6 WV VA VA >>>> Malisa dau 4 WV VA VA >>>> John S. son 2 WV VA VA >>>> Arta G?. 2/12 b. March WV VA VA >>>> >>>> I [Michael Clegg] met Elden Kincaid [my great grand >>> uncle] at a family >>>> reunion in the mid to late 1970’s in Columbus, OH. >>> He told me he [Elden] >>>> was a brother of Newman Early Kincaid and that they >>> are sons of Daniel >>>> Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, and the >>> grandsons of George W. >>>> Kincaid and Mary Campbell. >>>> __________________________ >>>> DANIEL THOMAS KINCAID >>>> Born 16 Sep 1848 in Fayette Co. WV >>>> Married 24 Apr 1872 Roane Co. WV to Martha Ellen >>> Brannon >>>> Died 15 Jan 1929 Spencer, Roane Co. WV >>>> >>>> Son of George W. Kincaid and Mary Catherine Campbell >>>> >>>> Proven by: >>>> >>>> Death Certificate State of WV # 2118 for 1929 >>>> Daniel Thomas Kincaid died 15 Jan 1929 Spencer, Roane >>> Co. WV, born 16 >>>> Sep 1848 Fayette Co. WV, father: George W. Kincaid >>> born Fayette Co. WV, >>>> mother Mary K. Campbell born Ireland [sic] [WV], >>> informant wife Martha >>>> E. Brannon Kincaid >>>> >>>> Marriage Certificate Roane Co. WV, Marriage Book 1 p. >>> 22 >>>> D.T. Kincaid and M.E. Brannon were married by S. M. >>> Ferrel on 24 Apr >>>> 1872 in Roane Co. WV. D.T. Kincaid was 23y old and was >>> born in Fayette >>>> Co. the son of G.W. and Mary Catherine Kincaid. M.E. >>> Brannon was 18y old >>>> and was born in Jackson Co. WV the dau of J.S. >>> and Sarah Brannon >>>> >>>> 1870 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV roll 1699 p. 53B, >>> 19 Jul 1870 >>>> Kincaid, G. W. 53 M farmer VA (listed for all) b. in >>> month of Apr >>>> Mary C. 45 F b. Mar >>>> Daniel T. 20 M b. Sep >>>> George W. 16 M b. Apr >>>> Virginia M. 15 F b. Jul >>>> Rufus A. 14 M b. May >>>> Sarah M.12 F b. Sep >>>> Isabell 10 F. b. Jan >>>> Elizabeth F. 6 F. b. Jul >>>> >>>> 1860 Census P.O. Spencer, Roane Co. VA [WV] roll 1375 >>> p. 610, 5 Jul >>>> 1860 >>>> Kinkaid, Geo W. 42 M farmer VA (all listed the same) >>>> Mary C. 32 F >>>> Daniel G [T] 11 M >>>> George W.10 M >>>> Virginia 7 F >>>> Rufus A 5 M >>>> Samuel M 3 M >>>> Sarah M 1 F >>>> [Adjacent household is Danial E. Campbell age 63 with >>> Catherine 65, >>>> Sarah R. 15, Isabell 10, and Elizabeth F. 6] >>>> >>>> 1850 Census 14th District, Fayette Co. VA [WV] roll >>> 943 p. 334A, 20 Jul >>>> 1850 >>>> Kincaid, George W. 33 M farmer VA (all listed the >>> same) >>>> Mary C. 24 F >>>> Mary C. Jr. 3 F >>>> Danl Thos 1 M >>>> [Adjacent household is Danial E. Campbell, 53 with >>> Catherine 49, >>>> Francis M 15, Augustus V 13, C.A. 10, and Sarah R., >>> 5] >>>> >>>> History of Roane County [WV] from the Time of Its >>> Exploration to A.D. >>>> 1927 by William H. Bishop. Spencer, WV copyright >>> 1927. p. 573. >>>> “Daniel Thomas Kincaid, son of G.W. Kincaid, Sr. and >>> Catherine >>>> (Campbell) was born in 1848, in Fayette County; on >>> April 23, 1873, >>>> married Miss Martha E. Brannon, daughter of Solomon >>> Brannon, of Spencer >>>> and Smithfield Districts. To Daniel E. [sic] and >>> Martha, his wife, were >>>> born and by them reared the following five sons and >>> seven daughters: >>>> Newman, Melissa, John S., Ott, Lexis, Seldon C., >>> Martha May, Rosco, >>>> Ethel, Annice, Emma and Myrtle. These have married and >>> have families and >>>> businesses.” >>>> [note: Book published 2 years before Daniel died so he >>> is the likely >>>> source of the information] >>>> >>>> I [Michael Clegg] met Elden Kincaid [my great grand >>> uncle] at a family >>>> reunion in the mid to late 1970’s in Columbus, OH. >>> He told me he [Elden] >>>> was a brother of Newman Early Kincaid and that they >>> are sons of Daniel >>>> Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, and the >>> grandsons of George W. >>>> Kincaid and Mary Campbell. >>>> ______________________________ >>>> GEORGE W. KINCAID >>>> Born 3 Mar 1818 WV [probably Greenbrier/Fayette Co. >>> VA/WV] >>>> Married 9 Dec 1845 Fayette Co. WV to Mary Catherine >>> Campbell >>>> Died 18 Feb 1898 [probably Roane Co. WV, no death >>> record found] >>>> Buried Kincaid Cemetery near Clover, Roane Co. WV >>>> >>>> Son of Thomas Kincaid and Mary Davis >>>> >>>> Proven by: >>>> >>>> History of Roane County [WV] from the Time of Its >>> Exploration to A.D. >>>> 1927 by William H. Bishop. Spencer, WV copyright >>> 1927. p. 573. >>>> “George Washington Kincaid, and his wife, Catherin >>> [sic] (Campbell, >>>> daughter of Daniel Campbell), who were married in >>> Fayette County, >>>> Western Virginia, with their three first born >>> children, came to Roane >>>> County in the year 1856; settled near Looneyville. >>> George Washington >>>> Kincaid was a son of Thomas and (……Davis) Kincaid, >>> who were married in >>>> Greenbrier County, West Virginia, both descendants of >>> Scotch Irish >>>> settlers of old Virginia….The sons and daughters of >>> George W. and >>>> Catherine, his wife, were Daniel Thomas, George W., >>> Jr., Seldon, Rufus >>>> A.; Virginia, wife of Phillip Ellis; Sarah, wife of >>> Elkanah Summerfield; >>>> Belle married Hilary Upton; Frances married a Kincaid >>> of another >>>> family.” >>>> >>>> [1820-40 Censuses for Thomas Kincaid see below. George >>> W. fits into >>>> appropriate sex and age categories for all three >>> censuses] >>>> >>>> 1840 Census Fayette Co. VA [WV] roll 555 p. 161 >>>> Kincaid, Thomas Sr. M<5 1, M10-14 3, M15-19 2, >>> M20-29 2, M40-49 1, F<5 >>>> 1, F40-49 1 >>>> >>>> 1830 Census Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] roll 190 p. 186 >>>> Kincaid, Thomas S, M<5 3, M5-9 3, M10-14 2, M30-39 >>> 1, F10-14 1, F30-39 >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> 1820 Census Lewisburg, Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] roll 132 >>> p. 180 >>>> Kincaid, Thomas, M<10y 3, M 26-44 1, F<10 1, >>> F16-25 1 >>>> >>>> Marriage Record Fayette Co. Book 1 p. 38 >>>> George Kincaid to Catherine Campbell on 9 Dec 1845 by >>> Rev. Martin T. >>>> Bibb [no parents listed] >>>> ________________________________ >>>> THOMAS KINCAID >>>> Born ca.1795 VA [WV] >>>> Married 10 Jan 1815 Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] to Mary >>> Davis >>>> >>>> Marriage Records of Greenbrier County VA [WV] >>>> 67. Kincaide, Thomas and Davis, Polly (1815) >>>> Marriage bond for Thomas Kincaid and Polly Davis. >>> Preprinted form, bond >>>> date 7 Jan 1815, bondsmen Thomas Kincaid and William >>> Davis, both made >>>> their mark, space for witness signature is blank. >>>> >>>> Hand written permission slip: “January the 6th 1815 >>> this is to certify >>>> that [I] do desire and grant you full authority to >>> give my son Tho’s >>>> license for him and Polley Davis to get married under >>> this my hand this >>>> day and year above written. Samuel Kinkead, Test. John >>> Kinkead, William >>>> Davis (his mark)” >>>> >>>> Hand written Minister’s Certification: "To the Clerk >>> of Greenbrier >>>> County VA, Sir this is to certify that I did on the >>> 10th of Jan 1815 >>>> join together in the wholy state of matrimony Tho >>> Kincade and Polly >>>> Davis of said County. Given under my hand this 14th >>> day of Jan’y 1815 >>>> Joseph Frye” >>>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in >>> Excel: >>>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>>> >>>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>>> >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>>> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >>> >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >>> >>> To join the DNA project, go to: >>> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>> subject and the body of the message >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Bob Arnott [email protected] (303)741-3468 (h) (303) 475-9885 (c)
Samuel Kincaid appears to be Samuel m 1st Mary Tincher 1785, 2nd Huldah Osborne 1802, 3rd Diana Ewing 1828. This Samuel and probably the John listed on the slip appear to be the sons of Thomas/Hannah Tincher. I say appear as the links haven't been vetted but it is clear to Fayette researchers that these are the correct linkages. I am currently working on a post spelling out why we believe these connections are true. It will be a complicated post and I will need to consult with all affected participant/researchers before sending it to the list. It seemed best to vet participants back as far as possible before an attempt is made to bring this family together. It should be noted that Linda Purdue made an attempt several years ago to connect the participants who decend from James Gillespie Kincaid through John/Elizabeth Gillespie to Thomas/Hannah. The attempt failed but will be revisited at a later time.. Fayette researchers are quite clear as to who the children of Thomas/Hannah are and have land transfers and court documents to prove most of them. Unfortunately proving that this Samuel and this John are indeed the sons of Thomas/Hannah must rely on a strong GPS proof. Right now the linkage from George Washington to Thomas/Mary (Polly) Davis is the one we need to know about. Does this link work? Are there any questions about the links up to George Washington? Michael will be leaving on vacation soon and would like to be able to answer questions before he does. Toney has a post ready for #156149 who believes decent from Thomas/Lucinda Claypool. A discussion about the controversy on who this Thomas is would best be rendered at that time. He is having difficulty sending the post to the list and may be waiting until discussion on the current post has occured. Sue Liedtke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Kincaide" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 to Fayette Co. WV[VA] > Is there any reason why this line can't be vetted further from Thomas > Kincaid to Samuel Kincaid named in the hand written permission slip? Who > is the Samuel Kincaid listed on the permission slip? And the John Kincaid, > the witness? > > Sincerely > Norman Kincaide > > --- On Sat, 4/30/11, Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Sue Liedtke <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 to >> Fayette Co. WV[VA] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 4:07 PM >> It would be wonderful if those of you >> who have a few minutes could look over >> this post as to the viability of the links. Comments and >> questioned are >> welcome. >> >> The last link from George Washington to Thomas/Polly Davis >> is of special >> interest as it affects 2 other participants (#49289 & >> #135736) vetted to >> George Washington/Mary Catherine Campbell through son >> George William/Lula >> Jane Burke. Lines down from Thomas/Mary (Polly) Davis >> apparently mutate >> readily. #136736 has the Apparent Ancestral Values for >> Group A. Both 49289 >> and 152189 have 2 variances from the AAV which do not match >> each other. >> #33001 who is vetted to Thomas/Polly has one variance from >> the Group A AAV. >> #101753, vetted to Harvey Kincaid who is believed to be a >> descendent of >> Thomas/Polly, has 1 variance from the AAV (does not match >> the others). >> >> #152191 and #155289 are believed to descend from Danial >> Thomas Kincaid, son >> of George Washington. Both have the same variances as >> 152189. 152191 has one >> additional variance. Vetting posts for these lines may >> appear at a later >> time. >> >> A brief comment on the death date for Thomas/Polly Davis >> which is based on >> the belief of descendents that Thomas abandoned his Fayette >> Co. family and >> started a new family in Lewis Co. VA/WVA (believed >> descendent #156149 who >> has no mutations from Group A AAV). Bob Arnott and the >> Lewis Co clerks >> office have determined that the actual death date for Lewis >> Co. Thomas is >> 1873 as the entry appears among other 1873 deaths. A >> vetting post for >> #156149 to Thomas/Lucinda Claypool of Lewis Co. should >> appear within the >> week. >> >> Thomas of Fayette Co. disappears from tax lists in the late >> 1840's. Mary, >> age 53 widow appears in the 1850 Fayette Co. census along >> with Isabella 17 >> and Mary C. age 17 in the household of Thomas age 21 >> married within the >> year. Isabella is the sister of Mary Catherine Campbell, >> wife of George >> Washington. This Thomas's second marriage record to Eliza >> Townsend states >> his parents as Thomas & Mary Kincaid. For this and >> other reasons best left >> to another post we believe that Mary, widow is Mary (Polly) >> Davis Kincaid. >> #130207 believes descent from Thomas/Eliza Townsend. He has >> 3 variances from >> the Group A AAV. >> >> Whether Thomas died in Lewis Co. 1873 or prior to 1850 in >> Fayette Co. does >> not affect linking of George Washington to Thomas/Polly >> Davis. >> >> Sue Liedtke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Clegg" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:11 AM >> Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid >> #152189 to Fayette Co. >> WV[VA] >> >> >> > >> > Participant #152189 Charles Edward Kincaid >> > Group A-1a Fayette Co. >> > Researcher/contact Michael and Mary Lou Clegg >> > >> > Lineage Review >> > Charles Edward Kincaid 1929-2010 >> > Newman Early Kincaid 1874-1954 >> > Daniel Thomas Kincaid 1848-1929 >> > George W. Kincaid 1818-1898 >> > Thomas Kincaid 1795-1875? >> > _______________________________ >> > CHARLES EDWARD KINCAID >> > Born 6 Jul 1929 Tupper’s Plains, Meigs Co. OH >> > Married 25 May 1950 Richmond, Wayne Co. IN to >> Elizabeth Belle Eubanks >> > Died 30 Mar 2010 Veterans Hospital, Salem, Roanoke >> Co.VA >> > >> > Son of Newman Early Kincaid and Rebecca Florence Hill >> > >> > Proven by: >> > >> > State of OH birth record #H2170475, file #1929062275 >> for Charles Edward >> > Kincaid. >> > Date of birth 6 Jul 1929, Birthplace OH, Sex male, >> Mother’s name >> > Florence Kincaid, maiden name Hill, Father’s name >> Newman Kincaid, mother >> > and father both born WV >> > >> > 1930 Census Lubeck, Wood Co. WV, ED 3 p.30B, roll >> 2558, 2 May 1930 >> > Newman E. Kincaid head 56 mar at age 27 farmer WV WV >> WV (all listed the >> > same) >> > Florence wife 45 mar at age 19 >> > J. Virgie son 27 farm laborer >> > Otto D. son 24 truck driver/milk route >> > Hazel dau 19 >> > Rubal dau 17 >> > Dorsel E. son 16 >> > Rosella dau 12 >> > Jewell son 10 >> > James M. son 8 >> > Newman E. Jr. son 6 >> > Kenneth L. son 4 >> > Charles E. son 9/12 >> > >> > I [Michael Clegg] knew Charlie [my great-uncle] who >> was acknowledged to >> > be the son of Newman Early Kincaid and Rebecca >> Florence Hill and >> > grandson of Daniel Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen >> Brannon, by all of >> > his older brothers and sisters, most of whom I also >> knew well. >> > _________________________________ >> > NEWMAN EARLY KINCAID >> > Born 28 Mar 1874 Spencer, Roane Co. WV >> > Married 18 Aug 1901 Spencer, Roane Co. WV to Rebecca >> Florence Hill >> > Died 18 May 1954 Galena, Delaware Co. OH >> > >> > Son of Daniel Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon >> > >> > Proven by: >> > 1900 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV, ED 102 p.1B, 1 >> Jun 1900 >> > Daniel Kincaid head Sep 1848 m 27y farmer WV WV WV >> (all listed the >> > same) >> > Martha A wife Jun 1855 m. 27y >> > Newman E son Mar 1875 farmer >> > John M [S] son Mar 1878 farm laborer >> > Orta G [Otto G] son Mar 1880 farm laborer >> > Elden C son Jan 1882 farm laborer >> > Roxie M. dau Apr 1884 at school >> > Martha M dau Apr 1886 at school >> > Daniel R son Jan 1888 farm laborer >> > Lexie A dau Oct 1890 at school >> > Dona E dau Feb 1892 at school >> > Alva A son Mar 1895 >> > Emma O dau Feb 1899 >> > >> > 1880 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV, ED 123 p. 67D, >> roll 1413, 11 Jun >> > 1880 >> > Daniel T. Kincade 30 farmer VA VA VA >> > Martha E. 26 wife VA VA VA >> > Newman E. son 6 WV VA VA >> > Malisa dau 4 WV VA VA >> > John S. son 2 WV VA VA >> > Arta G?. 2/12 b. March WV VA VA >> > >> > I [Michael Clegg] met Elden Kincaid [my great grand >> uncle] at a family >> > reunion in the mid to late 1970’s in Columbus, OH. >> He told me he [Elden] >> > was a brother of Newman Early Kincaid and that they >> are sons of Daniel >> > Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, and the >> grandsons of George W. >> > Kincaid and Mary Campbell. >> > __________________________ >> > DANIEL THOMAS KINCAID >> > Born 16 Sep 1848 in Fayette Co. WV >> > Married 24 Apr 1872 Roane Co. WV to Martha Ellen >> Brannon >> > Died 15 Jan 1929 Spencer, Roane Co. WV >> > >> > Son of George W. Kincaid and Mary Catherine Campbell >> > >> > Proven by: >> > >> > Death Certificate State of WV # 2118 for 1929 >> > Daniel Thomas Kincaid died 15 Jan 1929 Spencer, Roane >> Co. WV, born 16 >> > Sep 1848 Fayette Co. WV, father: George W. Kincaid >> born Fayette Co. WV, >> > mother Mary K. Campbell born Ireland [sic] [WV], >> informant wife Martha >> > E. Brannon Kincaid >> > >> > Marriage Certificate Roane Co. WV, Marriage Book 1 p. >> 22 >> > D.T. Kincaid and M.E. Brannon were married by S. M. >> Ferrel on 24 Apr >> > 1872 in Roane Co. WV. D.T. Kincaid was 23y old and was >> born in Fayette >> > Co. the son of G.W. and Mary Catherine Kincaid. M.E. >> Brannon was 18y old >> > and was born in Jackson Co. WV the dau of J.S. >> and Sarah Brannon >> > >> > 1870 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV roll 1699 p. 53B, >> 19 Jul 1870 >> > Kincaid, G. W. 53 M farmer VA (listed for all) b. in >> month of Apr >> > Mary C. 45 F b. Mar >> > Daniel T. 20 M b. Sep >> > George W. 16 M b. Apr >> > Virginia M. 15 F b. Jul >> > Rufus A. 14 M b. May >> > Sarah M.12 F b. Sep >> > Isabell 10 F. b. Jan >> > Elizabeth F. 6 F. b. Jul >> > >> > 1860 Census P.O. Spencer, Roane Co. VA [WV] roll 1375 >> p. 610, 5 Jul >> > 1860 >> > Kinkaid, Geo W. 42 M farmer VA (all listed the same) >> > Mary C. 32 F >> > Daniel G [T] 11 M >> > George W.10 M >> > Virginia 7 F >> > Rufus A 5 M >> > Samuel M 3 M >> > Sarah M 1 F >> > [Adjacent household is Danial E. Campbell age 63 with >> Catherine 65, >> > Sarah R. 15, Isabell 10, and Elizabeth F. 6] >> > >> > 1850 Census 14th District, Fayette Co. VA [WV] roll >> 943 p. 334A, 20 Jul >> > 1850 >> > Kincaid, George W. 33 M farmer VA (all listed the >> same) >> > Mary C. 24 F >> > Mary C. Jr. 3 F >> > Danl Thos 1 M >> > [Adjacent household is Danial E. Campbell, 53 with >> Catherine 49, >> > Francis M 15, Augustus V 13, C.A. 10, and Sarah R., >> 5] >> > >> > History of Roane County [WV] from the Time of Its >> Exploration to A.D. >> > 1927 by William H. Bishop. Spencer, WV copyright >> 1927. p. 573. >> > “Daniel Thomas Kincaid, son of G.W. Kincaid, Sr. and >> Catherine >> > (Campbell) was born in 1848, in Fayette County; on >> April 23, 1873, >> > married Miss Martha E. Brannon, daughter of Solomon >> Brannon, of Spencer >> > and Smithfield Districts. To Daniel E. [sic] and >> Martha, his wife, were >> > born and by them reared the following five sons and >> seven daughters: >> > Newman, Melissa, John S., Ott, Lexis, Seldon C., >> Martha May, Rosco, >> > Ethel, Annice, Emma and Myrtle. These have married and >> have families and >> > businesses.” >> > [note: Book published 2 years before Daniel died so he >> is the likely >> > source of the information] >> > >> > I [Michael Clegg] met Elden Kincaid [my great grand >> uncle] at a family >> > reunion in the mid to late 1970’s in Columbus, OH. >> He told me he [Elden] >> > was a brother of Newman Early Kincaid and that they >> are sons of Daniel >> > Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, and the >> grandsons of George W. >> > Kincaid and Mary Campbell. >> > ______________________________ >> > GEORGE W. KINCAID >> > Born 3 Mar 1818 WV [probably Greenbrier/Fayette Co. >> VA/WV] >> > Married 9 Dec 1845 Fayette Co. WV to Mary Catherine >> Campbell >> > Died 18 Feb 1898 [probably Roane Co. WV, no death >> record found] >> > Buried Kincaid Cemetery near Clover, Roane Co. WV >> > >> > Son of Thomas Kincaid and Mary Davis >> > >> > Proven by: >> > >> > History of Roane County [WV] from the Time of Its >> Exploration to A.D. >> > 1927 by William H. Bishop. Spencer, WV copyright >> 1927. p. 573. >> > “George Washington Kincaid, and his wife, Catherin >> [sic] (Campbell, >> > daughter of Daniel Campbell), who were married in >> Fayette County, >> > Western Virginia, with their three first born >> children, came to Roane >> > County in the year 1856; settled near Looneyville. >> George Washington >> > Kincaid was a son of Thomas and (……Davis) Kincaid, >> who were married in >> > Greenbrier County, West Virginia, both descendants of >> Scotch Irish >> > settlers of old Virginia….The sons and daughters of >> George W. and >> > Catherine, his wife, were Daniel Thomas, George W., >> Jr., Seldon, Rufus >> > A.; Virginia, wife of Phillip Ellis; Sarah, wife of >> Elkanah Summerfield; >> > Belle married Hilary Upton; Frances married a Kincaid >> of another >> > family.” >> > >> > [1820-40 Censuses for Thomas Kincaid see below. George >> W. fits into >> > appropriate sex and age categories for all three >> censuses] >> > >> > 1840 Census Fayette Co. VA [WV] roll 555 p. 161 >> > Kincaid, Thomas Sr. M<5 1, M10-14 3, M15-19 2, >> M20-29 2, M40-49 1, F<5 >> > 1, F40-49 1 >> > >> > 1830 Census Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] roll 190 p. 186 >> > Kincaid, Thomas S, M<5 3, M5-9 3, M10-14 2, M30-39 >> 1, F10-14 1, F30-39 >> > 1. >> > >> > 1820 Census Lewisburg, Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] roll 132 >> p. 180 >> > Kincaid, Thomas, M<10y 3, M 26-44 1, F<10 1, >> F16-25 1 >> > >> > Marriage Record Fayette Co. Book 1 p. 38 >> > George Kincaid to Catherine Campbell on 9 Dec 1845 by >> Rev. Martin T. >> > Bibb [no parents listed] >> > ________________________________ >> > THOMAS KINCAID >> > Born ca.1795 VA [WV] >> > Married 10 Jan 1815 Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] to Mary >> Davis >> > >> > Marriage Records of Greenbrier County VA [WV] >> > 67. Kincaide, Thomas and Davis, Polly (1815) >> > Marriage bond for Thomas Kincaid and Polly Davis. >> Preprinted form, bond >> > date 7 Jan 1815, bondsmen Thomas Kincaid and William >> Davis, both made >> > their mark, space for witness signature is blank. >> > >> > Hand written permission slip: “January the 6th 1815 >> this is to certify >> > that [I] do desire and grant you full authority to >> give my son Tho’s >> > license for him and Polley Davis to get married under >> this my hand this >> > day and year above written. Samuel Kinkead, Test. John >> Kinkead, William >> > Davis (his mark)” >> > >> > Hand written Minister’s Certification: "To the Clerk >> of Greenbrier >> > County VA, Sir this is to certify that I did on the >> 10th of Jan 1815 >> > join together in the wholy state of matrimony Tho >> Kincade and Polly >> > Davis of said County. Given under my hand this 14th >> day of Jan’y 1815 >> > Joseph Frye” >> > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in >> Excel: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> > >> > To join the DNA project, go to: >> > >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John Campbell and Mary Early were the parents of Daniel E. Campbell, father of Isabell and Mary Catherine. Mary Early was the daughter of Daniel Early. John Campbell, Mary Early and Daniel Early were from Augusta Co., VA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Van Hout" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 toFayette Co. WV[VA] > Who were the parents of Daniel E Campbell and his wife Catherine? There > are > a number of RW pension applications for Campbells in Virginia at > www.footnote.com. > > One pension file is for a Rev. Archibald Campbell of Greenbrier County, > and Adam D Kincaid signed as a witness. According to this website, Rev. > Archibald Campbell had a daughter Susan, who was the second wife of Jacob > Smith. Jacob Smith's 3rd wife (according to this website) was Hulda Jane > Kincaid, daughter of Samuel Kincaid and Hulda Osborne. > > Jacob Smith's marriages: > > 1. Jacob married Judah Clayborn [10704] [MRIN: 3577]. (Judah Clayborn > [10704] > was born in Pulaski County, Virginia.) > > 2. Jacob next married Susan Campbell [4372] [MRIN: 1514], daughter of > Archibald > Campbell Rev. [2789] and Unknown, on 17 Dec 1807 in Greenbrier County, > VA.2 > (Susan Campbell [4372] died in 1824.) > > 3. Jacob next married Hulda Jane Osborn Kincaid [2832] [MRIN: 1525], > daughter of Samuel Kincaid [10716] and Hulda Osborne [10717], on 22 Feb > 1825 > in Monroe County, VA.2 (Hulda Jane Osborn Kincaid [2832] was born on 15 > Sep > 1806 in Greenbrier County, Virginia 2 and died in 1858 in Raleigh County, > West Virginia 2.) > > http://www.livelyroots.com/gerald/4370.htm > > **************************************** > > Adam D Kincaid and wife Mary lived next to Rev. Archibald Campbell in the > 1850 Greenbrier, VA census. > > 1122 1122 Archibald Campbell 89 M Preacher 700 " > Duranged > Sarah Campbell 40 F " > Mary Cook 84 F " > 1123 1123 Adam D. Kincaid 41 M Farmer 2400 " > Mary Kincaid 33 F " > Margaret E. Kincaid 15 F " 1 > Sarah J. Kincaid 14 F " 1 > James D. Kincaid 10 M " 1 > Rachel Kincaid 6 F " > Joseph R. Kincaid 3 M " > Lewis G. Kincaid > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Liedtke > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 > toFayette > Co. WV[VA] > > It would be wonderful if those of you who have a few minutes could look > over > this post as to the viability of the links. Comments and questioned are > welcome. > > The last link from George Washington to Thomas/Polly Davis is of special > interest as it affects 2 other participants (#49289 & #135736) vetted to > George Washington/Mary Catherine Campbell through son George William/Lula > Jane Burke. Lines down from Thomas/Mary (Polly) Davis apparently mutate > readily. #136736 has the Apparent Ancestral Values for Group A. Both 49289 > and 152189 have 2 variances from the AAV which do not match each other. > #33001 who is vetted to Thomas/Polly has one variance from the Group A > AAV. > #101753, vetted to Harvey Kincaid who is believed to be a descendent of > Thomas/Polly, has 1 variance from the AAV (does not match the others). > > #152191 and #155289 are believed to descend from Danial Thomas Kincaid, > son > of George Washington. Both have the same variances as 152189. 152191 has > one > additional variance. Vetting posts for these lines may appear at a later > time. > > A brief comment on the death date for Thomas/Polly Davis which is based on > the belief of descendents that Thomas abandoned his Fayette Co. family and > started a new family in Lewis Co. VA/WVA (believed descendent #156149 who > has no mutations from Group A AAV). Bob Arnott and the Lewis Co clerks > office have determined that the actual death date for Lewis Co. Thomas is > 1873 as the entry appears among other 1873 deaths. A vetting post for > #156149 to Thomas/Lucinda Claypool of Lewis Co. should appear within the > week. > > Thomas of Fayette Co. disappears from tax lists in the late 1840's. Mary, > age 53 widow appears in the 1850 Fayette Co. census along with Isabella 17 > and Mary C. age 17 in the household of Thomas age 21 married within the > year. Isabella is the sister of Mary Catherine Campbell, wife of George > Washington. This Thomas's second marriage record to Eliza Townsend states > his parents as Thomas & Mary Kincaid. For this and other reasons best left > to another post we believe that Mary, widow is Mary (Polly) Davis Kincaid. > #130207 believes descent from Thomas/Eliza Townsend. He has 3 variances > from > the Group A AAV. > > Whether Thomas died in Lewis Co. 1873 or prior to 1850 in Fayette Co. does > not affect linking of George Washington to Thomas/Polly Davis. > > Sue Liedtke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Clegg" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:11 AM > Subject: [KINCAID] Vetting for Charles Edward Kincaid #152189 to Fayette > Co. > WV[VA] > > >> >> Participant #152189 Charles Edward Kincaid >> Group A-1a Fayette Co. >> Researcher/contact Michael and Mary Lou Clegg >> >> Lineage Review >> Charles Edward Kincaid 1929-2010 >> Newman Early Kincaid 1874-1954 >> Daniel Thomas Kincaid 1848-1929 >> George W. Kincaid 1818-1898 >> Thomas Kincaid 1795-1875? >> _______________________________ >> CHARLES EDWARD KINCAID >> Born 6 Jul 1929 Tupper’s Plains, Meigs Co. OH >> Married 25 May 1950 Richmond, Wayne Co. IN to Elizabeth Belle Eubanks >> Died 30 Mar 2010 Veterans Hospital, Salem, Roanoke Co.VA >> >> Son of Newman Early Kincaid and Rebecca Florence Hill >> >> Proven by: >> >> State of OH birth record #H2170475, file #1929062275 for Charles Edward >> Kincaid. >> Date of birth 6 Jul 1929, Birthplace OH, Sex male, Mother’s name >> Florence Kincaid, maiden name Hill, Father’s name Newman Kincaid, mother >> and father both born WV >> >> 1930 Census Lubeck, Wood Co. WV, ED 3 p.30B, roll 2558, 2 May 1930 >> Newman E. Kincaid head 56 mar at age 27 farmer WV WV WV (all listed the >> same) >> Florence wife 45 mar at age 19 >> J. Virgie son 27 farm laborer >> Otto D. son 24 truck driver/milk route >> Hazel dau 19 >> Rubal dau 17 >> Dorsel E. son 16 >> Rosella dau 12 >> Jewell son 10 >> James M. son 8 >> Newman E. Jr. son 6 >> Kenneth L. son 4 >> Charles E. son 9/12 >> >> I [Michael Clegg] knew Charlie [my great-uncle] who was acknowledged to >> be the son of Newman Early Kincaid and Rebecca Florence Hill and >> grandson of Daniel Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, by all of >> his older brothers and sisters, most of whom I also knew well. >> _________________________________ >> NEWMAN EARLY KINCAID >> Born 28 Mar 1874 Spencer, Roane Co. WV >> Married 18 Aug 1901 Spencer, Roane Co. WV to Rebecca Florence Hill >> Died 18 May 1954 Galena, Delaware Co. OH >> >> Son of Daniel Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon >> >> Proven by: >> 1900 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV, ED 102 p.1B, 1 Jun 1900 >> Daniel Kincaid head Sep 1848 m 27y farmer WV WV WV (all listed the >> same) >> Martha A wife Jun 1855 m. 27y >> Newman E son Mar 1875 farmer >> John M [S] son Mar 1878 farm laborer >> Orta G [Otto G] son Mar 1880 farm laborer >> Elden C son Jan 1882 farm laborer >> Roxie M. dau Apr 1884 at school >> Martha M dau Apr 1886 at school >> Daniel R son Jan 1888 farm laborer >> Lexie A dau Oct 1890 at school >> Dona E dau Feb 1892 at school >> Alva A son Mar 1895 >> Emma O dau Feb 1899 >> >> 1880 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV, ED 123 p. 67D, roll 1413, 11 Jun >> 1880 >> Daniel T. Kincade 30 farmer VA VA VA >> Martha E. 26 wife VA VA VA >> Newman E. son 6 WV VA VA >> Malisa dau 4 WV VA VA >> John S. son 2 WV VA VA >> Arta G?. 2/12 b. March WV VA VA >> >> I [Michael Clegg] met Elden Kincaid [my great grand uncle] at a family >> reunion in the mid to late 1970’s in Columbus, OH. He told me he [Elden] >> was a brother of Newman Early Kincaid and that they are sons of Daniel >> Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, and the grandsons of George W. >> Kincaid and Mary Campbell. >> __________________________ >> DANIEL THOMAS KINCAID >> Born 16 Sep 1848 in Fayette Co. WV >> Married 24 Apr 1872 Roane Co. WV to Martha Ellen Brannon >> Died 15 Jan 1929 Spencer, Roane Co. WV >> >> Son of George W. Kincaid and Mary Catherine Campbell >> >> Proven by: >> >> Death Certificate State of WV # 2118 for 1929 >> Daniel Thomas Kincaid died 15 Jan 1929 Spencer, Roane Co. WV, born 16 >> Sep 1848 Fayette Co. WV, father: George W. Kincaid born Fayette Co. WV, >> mother Mary K. Campbell born Ireland [sic] [WV], informant wife Martha >> E. Brannon Kincaid >> >> Marriage Certificate Roane Co. WV, Marriage Book 1 p. 22 >> D.T. Kincaid and M.E. Brannon were married by S. M. Ferrel on 24 Apr >> 1872 in Roane Co. WV. D.T. Kincaid was 23y old and was born in Fayette >> Co. the son of G.W. and Mary Catherine Kincaid. M.E. Brannon was 18y old >> and was born in Jackson Co. WV the dau of J.S. and Sarah Brannon >> >> 1870 Census Smithfield, Roane Co. WV roll 1699 p. 53B, 19 Jul 1870 >> Kincaid, G. W. 53 M farmer VA (listed for all) b. in month of Apr >> Mary C. 45 F b. Mar >> Daniel T. 20 M b. Sep >> George W. 16 M b. Apr >> Virginia M. 15 F b. Jul >> Rufus A. 14 M b. May >> Sarah M.12 F b. Sep >> Isabell 10 F. b. Jan >> Elizabeth F. 6 F. b. Jul >> >> 1860 Census P.O. Spencer, Roane Co. VA [WV] roll 1375 p. 610, 5 Jul >> 1860 >> Kinkaid, Geo W. 42 M farmer VA (all listed the same) >> Mary C. 32 F >> Daniel G [T] 11 M >> George W.10 M >> Virginia 7 F >> Rufus A 5 M >> Samuel M 3 M >> Sarah M 1 F >> [Adjacent household is Danial E. Campbell age 63 with Catherine 65, >> Sarah R. 15, Isabell 10, and Elizabeth F. 6] >> >> 1850 Census 14th District, Fayette Co. VA [WV] roll 943 p. 334A, 20 Jul >> 1850 >> Kincaid, George W. 33 M farmer VA (all listed the same) >> Mary C. 24 F >> Mary C. Jr. 3 F >> Danl Thos 1 M >> [Adjacent household is Danial E. Campbell, 53 with Catherine 49, >> Francis M 15, Augustus V 13, C.A. 10, and Sarah R., 5] >> >> History of Roane County [WV] from the Time of Its Exploration to A.D. >> 1927 by William H. Bishop. Spencer, WV copyright 1927. p. 573. >> “Daniel Thomas Kincaid, son of G.W. Kincaid, Sr. and Catherine >> (Campbell) was born in 1848, in Fayette County; on April 23, 1873, >> married Miss Martha E. Brannon, daughter of Solomon Brannon, of Spencer >> and Smithfield Districts. To Daniel E. [sic] and Martha, his wife, were >> born and by them reared the following five sons and seven daughters: >> Newman, Melissa, John S., Ott, Lexis, Seldon C., Martha May, Rosco, >> Ethel, Annice, Emma and Myrtle. These have married and have families and >> businesses.” >> [note: Book published 2 years before Daniel died so he is the likely >> source of the information] >> >> I [Michael Clegg] met Elden Kincaid [my great grand uncle] at a family >> reunion in the mid to late 1970’s in Columbus, OH. He told me he [Elden] >> was a brother of Newman Early Kincaid and that they are sons of Daniel >> Thomas Kincaid and Martha Ellen Brannon, and the grandsons of George W. >> Kincaid and Mary Campbell. >> ______________________________ >> GEORGE W. KINCAID >> Born 3 Mar 1818 WV [probably Greenbrier/Fayette Co. VA/WV] >> Married 9 Dec 1845 Fayette Co. WV to Mary Catherine Campbell >> Died 18 Feb 1898 [probably Roane Co. WV, no death record found] >> Buried Kincaid Cemetery near Clover, Roane Co. WV >> >> Son of Thomas Kincaid and Mary Davis >> >> Proven by: >> >> History of Roane County [WV] from the Time of Its Exploration to A.D. >> 1927 by William H. Bishop. Spencer, WV copyright 1927. p. 573. >> “George Washington Kincaid, and his wife, Catherin [sic] (Campbell, >> daughter of Daniel Campbell), who were married in Fayette County, >> Western Virginia, with their three first born children, came to Roane >> County in the year 1856; settled near Looneyville. George Washington >> Kincaid was a son of Thomas and (……Davis) Kincaid, who were married in >> Greenbrier County, West Virginia, both descendants of Scotch Irish >> settlers of old Virginia….The sons and daughters of George W. and >> Catherine, his wife, were Daniel Thomas, George W., Jr., Seldon, Rufus >> A.; Virginia, wife of Phillip Ellis; Sarah, wife of Elkanah Summerfield; >> Belle married Hilary Upton; Frances married a Kincaid of another >> family.” >> >> [1820-40 Censuses for Thomas Kincaid see below. George W. fits into >> appropriate sex and age categories for all three censuses] >> >> 1840 Census Fayette Co. VA [WV] roll 555 p. 161 >> Kincaid, Thomas Sr. M<5 1, M10-14 3, M15-19 2, M20-29 2, M40-49 1, F<5 >> 1, F40-49 1 >> >> 1830 Census Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] roll 190 p. 186 >> Kincaid, Thomas S, M<5 3, M5-9 3, M10-14 2, M30-39 1, F10-14 1, F30-39 >> 1. >> >> 1820 Census Lewisburg, Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] roll 132 p. 180 >> Kincaid, Thomas, M<10y 3, M 26-44 1, F<10 1, F16-25 1 >> >> Marriage Record Fayette Co. Book 1 p. 38 >> George Kincaid to Catherine Campbell on 9 Dec 1845 by Rev. Martin T. >> Bibb [no parents listed] >> ________________________________ >> THOMAS KINCAID >> Born ca.1795 VA [WV] >> Married 10 Jan 1815 Greenbrier Co. VA [WV] to Mary Davis >> >> Marriage Records of Greenbrier County VA [WV] >> 67. Kincaide, Thomas and Davis, Polly (1815) >> Marriage bond for Thomas Kincaid and Polly Davis. Preprinted form, bond >> date 7 Jan 1815, bondsmen Thomas Kincaid and William Davis, both made >> their mark, space for witness signature is blank. >> >> Hand written permission slip: “January the 6th 1815 this is to certify >> that [I] do desire and grant you full authority to give my son Tho’s >> license for him and Polley Davis to get married under this my hand this >> day and year above written. Samuel Kinkead, Test. John Kinkead, William >> Davis (his mark)” >> >> Hand written Minister’s Certification: "To the Clerk of Greenbrier >> County VA, Sir this is to certify that I did on the 10th of Jan 1815 >> join together in the wholy state of matrimony Tho Kincade and Polly >> Davis of said County. Given under my hand this 14th day of Jan’y 1815 >> Joseph Frye” >> To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls >> >> To join the DNA project, go to: >> www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > To see the Kincaid of all spellings DNA chart in Excel: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adgedge/Research/April%202004/Kincaid%20%20DNA.xls > > To join the DNA project, go to: > www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Kincaid&Code=J21027 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message