Thanks Tim, for the "run-down. That was good. But, to get Dr. Thompson's address & contact him, is great! I have not had a reply from our Herr Helmut Mahleiwein, as yet, but expect to hear soon. Please remember me, when you hear from Dr. Thompson. I will bet with a native born wife along, we will learn some interesting details about those Gimbsheim Kimmels. Thanks for sharing! Regards, Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy W. Kimmel <tkimmel@fwi.com> To: <KIMMEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: [KIMMEL] Shafer's List & Dr. Bill Thompson > Hi all... > > >>>Remember Linda °Ü°s posting of Rudolf Shafer's list of Kimmels? It > turns out it's a generation by generation listing. Johann Michael's > grandfather Konrad is missing from the list and that caused a problem > figuring it out. Fortunately I had Dr. Herman Kümmell's report to > compare to. Here is how Shafer's list compares to the lineage for > Johann Michael from Dr. Kümmell's work: > > 1) DILMANUS KUMEL is listed as a student at Erfurt > > 2) LUDWIG KOMEL (c1420 Neukirchen) is (a. Ludwig) > > 3) HEN KOMEL, DER ALT (c1450 Neukirchen) is (b. Old Hen) > His brother is (c. Ludwig) > > 4) HEN KOMMELL, DER JUNG (c1470 Neukirchen) is (d. Young Hen) > His brother is (e. Reitz) > > 5) HENRICH KOMEL (1493 Neukirchen) is (f. Henrich) > His brother is (g. Ambrose) > His brother Ambrose's son is (j. Lot) > > 6) LUDWIG KOEMMEL (c1515 Neukirchen) is (h. Ludwig) > His brother is (i. Henry) > > 7) ECKART KUMMELL (1540s Neukirchen) is (m. Echart) > His brothers are (k. Conrad) and (l. Jost) > His brother Conrad's sons are (n. John) and (o. Helwigk) > Sons of (n. John) are (t. Jonas), (u. Phillip), and probably (v. > Josh) > Sons of (t. Jonas) are (ff. Casper Milchoir) and (gg. > Mathais) > Sons of (o. Helwigk) are (w. Reinhard) and (x. Conrad) > His brother Jost's son is (p. Daniel) > Son of (p. Daniel) is (y. Reinhard) > > 8) KONRAD KUMMELL (1583 prob. Nidda) is (s. Conrad) > His brothers are (q. Eberhardt) and (r. Rudolf) > His brother Eberhardt's sons are (z. Conrad), (aa. Herman), (bb. John), > (cc. Balthasar) and (dd. Christopher) > Son of (bb. John) is (hh. John Helfrich) > > 9) KONRAD KÜMMELL (1610 Oppenheim) is missing in the list > > 10) HANS KONRAD KÜMMELL (1635 Oppenheim) is (ee. Hans Conrad) > > 11) JOHANN MICHAEL KÜMMELL/KIMMEL (1662 Alsheim) is (ii. John Michel) > His brother is (jj. John George) > > ============================ > > >>>And remember me asking about Dr. Bill Thompson who was doing research > in Gimbsheim in the 1970s? > > I finally located him in Hawaii. When he can get to his paperwork in > Virginia (sometime in May), he'll be sending me copies of papers from > his research. We'll soon learn about Johann Michael's life as Dr. > Thompson understands it from the local Gimbsheim town records > themselves. > > --Tim in Fort Wayne > ==================== >