This was my reply to the Brethren list: Thank you Jan for looking. Thank you Theresa Rogerson for mentioning the KS state censuses. I'm familiar with them, but need to spend more time searching them. Unfortunately they are unindexed. Later I will try to find time to look for John K. Baker in the state censuses, but for now I'm really spread thin, too much to do in too many directions. Seeing the other postings about other John Bakers I thought maybe someone had a record of this one. It was only last week that I discovered that Lizzie Kimmel married John K. Baker. I'd seen the information back in May 1998, but didn't feel confident about what I'd found until Lizzie's date of birth (sent to me last week) matched John K. Baker's wife's date of birth. There were so many Elizabeth Kimmels I wanted to make sure I had the right one. Now I have yet another direction to search. Debby Theresa Rogerson wrote: Did you know that in Kansas they have a state census that was taken every five years after the federal census? In the Family History Library you can order these state census records and you may find a lot more about your family on these census records. Theresa Rogerson I'd also like to add that last week I discovered what happened to both of my great grandmother Mary Ellen (Kimmel) Kistner's sisters. Lizzie's marriage clicked into place after discovering the dates of birth matched. They also had a sister Catherine Jane "Jennie" Kimmel who married Harvey Alvin Babst (born 7 June 1864 in PA, died 8 May 1928 in Geneva, Fillmore Co., NE) on 19 Dec 1889 in Falls City, Richardson Co., NE. Jennie died 26 Mar 1931 in Geneva, NE. They had 4 children: Catherine Agnes "Aggie," John H., William "Earl," and Elmer B. Babst. I'm now in contact with a granddaughter of Aggie. Debby