I am trying to determine which Musser line the Ann(e) Musser that married Issac Kimmel belongs to. Descendants of Johann Philip Kimmel 1 Johann Philip Kimmel 1695 - 1777 .. +Anna Elizabeth Voltz 1700 - 1751 ..... 2 Conrad Kimmel 1722 - ..... 2 Philip Kimmel 1723/24 - 1796 ......... +Anna Christina Henn 1726 - 1791 ............ 3 Jonathan Kimmel ............ 3 Michael Kimmel ............ 3 Philip Kimmel 1756 - ............ 3 Jacob Kimmel 1757 - ............ 3 Isaac Kimmel 1769 - 1851 ................ +Anne Musser 1774 - 1858 <<<< I am trying to find her parents. The other KIMMEL/MUSSER connection I have is: Descendants of John Daniel Musser 1 John Daniel Musser 1793 - 1872 .. +Sarah Sloggy 1796 - 1867 ..... 2 Mary Ann Musser 1827 - ......... +David Kimmel 1831 - 1858 I have information on both lines in this case and would be interested in sharing it. I descend from: Descendants of Hans Michael Musser I 1 Hans Michael Musser I b: July 11, 1717 in Bischwiller, Alsace, France d: Abt. 1789 in York Township, York County, Pennsylvania .. +Maria Eva Elsasser b: September 11, 1717 in Bischwiller, Alsace, France d: June 27, 1807 in Petersburg, Springfield Township, Columbiana County, Ohio I have information on many of the families that connect to the KIMMEL and MUSSER families particularly in Columbiana and Mahoning County, Ohio. Willing to share all. Dick Baith

Several cousins and I have been trying to find the origins of the Kimel family in North Carolina for some time. We believe the Kimmel originator of this line arrived in Pennsylvania in the middle 1700's and migrated to North Carolina before 1770. I recently found this quote on a web site of Laura Nuenke: "Leonard Kimmel (39)(40) was born in 1741 in Germany. He died in 1825 in Rumley Township, Harrison, Ohio. History of the Leonard Kimmel Family and Descendants, presents some problems sating Leonard 1733-1825 was born in Stuttgart, Wurttemberg, Germany, but provides neither an identification of sources nor an explantation as to why the Historical Collections of Harrison County and other genealogies say 1741. This record also indicates Leonard had 7 brothers who came to America in 1758. The names are not given but settled as follows: 3 in Pennsylvania, 1 in Massachusetts, 1 in Maryland, 1 in Virginia and 1 in North Carolina." Since one of the brothers supposedly settled in North Carolina, he would be a prime candidate as the originator of our line. Unfortunately Laura Nuenke's email address is not current, and I haven't been able to contact her. Does anyone have information about the brothers of Leonard Kimmel? Dan Kimel

Thanks for the maps - - - Bill "Timothy W. Kimmel" wrote: > Hi, Janet... > > Click on this: > http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/map.mb?CT=49.7784%3A8.37597%3A300000&GAD1=&GAD2=&GAD3=GIMBSHEIM&GAD4=Germany&IC=49.7784%3A8.37597%3A8%3A&apmenu=&apcode=&AD2_street=&AD2=&AD3=Gimbsheim&AD4=DEU&selCategory=&GMI=&noPrefs=&W=456&H=259&GC=X%3A8.37597%7CY%3A49.77 > and you should get a map with all three towns on it. "Zoom out" a level and you > can see how to reach them by way of Darmstadt. If this doesn't work go to > http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/index.mb and then: 1) change COUNTRY to Germany, > 2) type "Gimbsheim" in CITY, and click on CREATE MAP button > > Allan and Betty Kimmell of Topeka, KS was the couple that visited Gimbsheim whose > trip was posted on my web site and I'm sure they would be happy to give pointers > about visiting the area. Their e-mail is once80k@cjnetworks.com > > --Tim Kimmel > =========================== > > CRGJNT@aol.com wrote: > > > Dear Kimmel Cousins: > > > > We are making arrangements to go to Germany in October and hope to visit > > Alsheim, Eich, and Gimbsheim but have been unable to locate them on the atlas > > maps or in the tour guide/unindexed road map of Germany. We will be landing > > at Frankfurt and staying at Karlsruhe. Can someone provide me with > > directions to these Kimmel locations? > > > > Janet Christie

We are the --Allan & Betty Kimmells---, that visited Gimsheim & Eich a couple of years ago. Although I have put away our maps, we were only about 1 hour from the Frankfort airport. We had rented a car, & drove there, staying 2 nights-- then we returned & spent our last night in Germany with the same Zimmer-- or, Gustehaus, owned by a Frau Helwig. Her rooms are nice enough, & her food is more than plenty! She & her husband own a winery & , of course the vinyards. She speaks pretty fair English, & we enjoyed our time with her. We also met 2 important men in Gimbsheim. One is Herr Mahlertwein, who lives not far from our Gustehous. He is the city's historian, & gave us a tour of their city cellars-- where all the records are hept.. However, he speasks no English, & we had a youn boy, that translated poorly. But, the other man we met was Herr Wilhelm, the school's English teacher! We were able to bring copies of some of the Kimmel genealogy records back with us, but, it would have been much better to have talked in German! Eich is only a very few klometers away, & there is a wonderful resturant near the Rhine river, & close to town-- its alittle hard to locate, but Frau Helwigs son-in-law led us there. We sat & ate outside & watched the water traffic on the river. I hope your visit is as pleasant as ours. It is a lovely area, & the people treated us as honored guests! If there is anymore information that we might provide-- please lets us know--, & we wish you the best! Sincerely, Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: <CRGJNT@aol.com> To: <KIMMEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:22 PM Subject: [KIMMEL] Alsheim, Eich and Gimbsheim > Dear Kimmel Cousins: > > We are making arrangements to go to Germany in October and hope to visit > Alsheim, Eich, and Gimbsheim but have been unable to locate them on the atlas > maps or in the tour guide/unindexed road map of Germany. We will be landing > at Frankfurt and staying at Karlsruhe. Can someone provide me with > directions to these Kimmel locations? > > Janet Christie >

Hi, Janet... Click on this: http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/map.mb?CT=49.7784%3A8.37597%3A300000&GAD1=&GAD2=&GAD3=GIMBSHEIM&GAD4=Germany&IC=49.7784%3A8.37597%3A8%3A&apmenu=&apcode=&AD2_street=&AD2=&AD3=Gimbsheim&AD4=DEU&selCategory=&GMI=&noPrefs=&W=456&H=259&GC=X%3A8.37597%7CY%3A49.7784%7CLT%3A49.7784%7CLN%3A8.37597%7CLS%3A300000%7Cc%3AGIMBSHEIM%7Cp%3ADEU&lv=6&serch=&MA=1&myzoom.x=167&myzoom.y=13 and you should get a map with all three towns on it. "Zoom out" a level and you can see how to reach them by way of Darmstadt. If this doesn't work go to http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/index.mb and then: 1) change COUNTRY to Germany, 2) type "Gimbsheim" in CITY, and click on CREATE MAP button Allan and Betty Kimmell of Topeka, KS was the couple that visited Gimbsheim whose trip was posted on my web site and I'm sure they would be happy to give pointers about visiting the area. Their e-mail is once80k@cjnetworks.com --Tim Kimmel =========================== CRGJNT@aol.com wrote: > Dear Kimmel Cousins: > > We are making arrangements to go to Germany in October and hope to visit > Alsheim, Eich, and Gimbsheim but have been unable to locate them on the atlas > maps or in the tour guide/unindexed road map of Germany. We will be landing > at Frankfurt and staying at Karlsruhe. Can someone provide me with > directions to these Kimmel locations? > > Janet Christie

Dear Kimmel Cousins My wife and I just spent three delightful days at the Kimmell House Bed & Breakfast in Ephrata, PA. The house was built in 1795 by Jacob Kimmel, grandson of Johann Jacob K., the immigrant. This branch of the family was actively involved with the Cloister at Ephrata. The current owners, Bonnie & Dave Harvey were excellent hosts--great breakfasts outdoors on their patio. Their phone is (800) 861-3385. This house provides a nice base for exploring the multi-faceted German heritage in Lancaster County. Ernie Kimmel

In a message dated 08/28/2000 8:57:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CRGJNT@aol.com writes: << I appreciate your reply ever so much. >> I'm SO JEALOUS of you guys who get to go to Germany!! On the other hand, I'm so glad you're willing to share your experiences with the rest of the Kimmel cousins. Be sure and keep a travel log of your trip Janet.

Dear Kimmel(l) Cousins: The response to my request for directions to Gimbsheim, Alsheim and Eich was immediate, complete and from several sources. I am armed with maps, places to visit and even a place to stay. It's nice to have such smart cousins. Many, many thanks. Janet Christie

Thank you, Allan. I have printed your very informative message and will take it with us to Germany. I know my husband and I will enjoy walking the ground of ancestors. I was able to print maps from the internet and will look up your place to stay in Gimbsheim -- Frau Helwig's. It sounds like something we might enjoy. I appreciate your reply ever so much. Janet Christie

In a message dated 08/28/2000 5:27:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CRGJNT@aol.com writes: << Can someone provide me with directions to these Kimmel locations? >> SOMEONE on this list travelled to Gimbsheim a couple years ago and provided us with a wonderful travel log of the trip. I hope whoever it was is still on this list and will come forward to answer your question. If not, I'll dig through the archives to get you his e-mail address. ~ Pamela (Kimmel) Westfall

Dear Kimmel Cousins: We are making arrangements to go to Germany in October and hope to visit Alsheim, Eich, and Gimbsheim but have been unable to locate them on the atlas maps or in the tour guide/unindexed road map of Germany. We will be landing at Frankfurt and staying at Karlsruhe. Can someone provide me with directions to these Kimmel locations? Janet Christie

grills@intercomm.com wrote: <Debbie please get back to me soon. This is a test to see if my email is working? Sue> I replied to your address privately, but it bounced. Looks like you are having email problems. Debby

Debbie please get back to me soon. This is a test to see if my email is working? Sue DebbyBliss@aol.com wrote: > go to: http://www2.fwi.com/~tkimmel/Summary.htm > > Tim's web page lists AC-HDCAF - Joseph Andrew Kimmel 1854-1934. He m1 Laura > B. Burson, m2 Lizzie J. Forney, m3 Ida McClellan. It is best to use a > browser that has a "find" feature. Type in the code or Burson and it will go > right to it. You can then backtrack and find Joseph Andrew Kimmel's > ancestors. > > Joseph Andrew Kimmel was s/o AC-HDCA Joseph Kimmel 1819-1902. Joseph Kimmel > was s/o AC-HDC David Kimmel 1793-1852 and Susanna Welker. David was s/o > AC-HD Joseph Kimmel 1769-? and Nancy/Anna Stoner. > > Debby

this is a test time please get back to me real soon. sue "Timothy W. Kimmel" wrote: > This will be useful for Ken/Sue. It is J. Andrew's obituary in the July 7, 1934 > (Saturday) "Daily Chief:" > > ----------------------------- > "J. A. Kimmel > > "Dies at Home in Carey Friday Night From Cerebral Hemorrhage > > "Joseph Andrew Kimmel, retired farmer, died at his home on Dow street, in Carey, > Friday night at 10:50 o'clock. Death was attributed to a cerebral hemorrhage. > He had been ill three weeks. > > "Deceased was the son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Kimmel, and was born near > Wharton; in Wyandot county, October 26, 1854. He attained the age of 79 years, 8 > months and 10 days at the time of death. Mr. Kimmel was united in marriage to > Laura B. Burson, who is deceased, on November 25, 1876. Four children were born > to this union, namely, C. G. Kimmel, of Carey; Willard E. Kimmel, of Findlay; > Eugene Kimmel, of Prospect, and Eura B., wife of Foster Savidge, of Carey. Mr. > Kimmel was married to Lizzie Forney, now deceased, on February 25, 1894. One > daughter, Nellie, wife of Clarence Hagley, of Lovell, survives this union. Mr. > Kimmel was united in marriage to Ida McClellan, on April 25, 1922, who survives. > An only brother, L. L. Kimmel, resides at Columbia City, Ind. > > "Mr. Kimmel spent his entire life in Wyandot county and before his retirement, > thirty-two years ago, was engaged in farming. He was a member of the Methodist > Episcopal church. > > "Funeral services will be held Monday afternoon at 2 o'clock at the Methodist > Episcopal church in Carey, in charge of Rev. A. C. Rainsberger. Burial will be > made in Houston cemetery, at Forest." > ------------------------- > > Everyone should have such a thorough obit! This is on microfilm at the Community > Library in Upper Sandusky, Ohio. > > Knowing Joseph Andrew's name and birth date, you can now find him in the Joseph > and Sarah Kimmel family in Richland Township, Wyandot Co., Ohio in the 1860 > census (as "Andrew" age 4) and the 1870 census (as "Joseph A." age 14). The age > discrepancy is not unusual for a census, but check the other names in the family > to verify it is the same person. > > Next, there is a write up on Joseph and Sarah Kimmel on page 949 in the "History > of Wyandot County, Ohio" (1884) which gives their children, including "Andrew" > and matching the censuses. And gives Joseph's parents David and Susanna (Welker) > Kimmel. > > David's parents are a bit tricky. Go to > http://www2.fwi.com/~tkimmel/Spec-Joseph.htm > > Have fun.... > > --Tim Kimmel in Fort Wayne, IN > =========================== > > ken/sue wrote: > > > This is the only name I have of J.Andrew Kimmel Married Laura B. Burson not > > Burch > > on Nov. 25,1876 J must be for Jacob. To them were born 4 children while > > living on their farm near Carey,OH in Wyandotte County.they 4 children were > > Charles Gaylord, > > Willard Elijah,Eura B, Eugene A. Willard Elijah 2nd child married Iva Mae > > Shaffer, > > 4-3-1904 seven children were born to them on their farm near Carey. I will > > name only > > my late father-in-law Russell W. Kimmel He is buried in Carey Ohio with his > > parents . > > This is what I found in a History of the Burson Family.Findley Hancock County > > Public > > Library. My daughter is a Kimmel. I just to find these information for my > > daughter. > > Sue What can you find of them Kimmel. > > > > KTompk7744@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Can you give some dates? Too many of the kimmels in my data banks begin > > > with a J. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Jan T

Browsing Ford & Nagle's pages (and not finding anybody I was actually looking for) I found an antique photo listed for sale for LEROY KIMMEL & MOLLIE HOOK when they married at Ft. Wayne IN. I've never bought anything from Ford & Nagle but thought these folks might belong to someone on the list. Ford & Nagle's home page is http://users.erinet.com/31363/fordand.htm and their e-dress is fordnag@erinet.com snail mail 5525 Neville St., Dayton OH 45424. These folks sell antique Bibles, photos, and documents. I don't know anything about them, but if I'd found one of my family's stuff listed on there, I'd probably have sent for it. Happy hunting. Jan T

Greetings from Mexico, list. We NC Kimmels are grasping at straws trying to locate our PA ancestors. Today someone sent me the following from the BRETHREN list: ANNA MARIA KIMMEL, d/o J. NICHOLAUS KIMMEL and SUSANNA WEBER... He as born 9/19/1728, DARMSTADT, GERMANY, SUSANNA WEBER born 1/23/1742. Do any of you have the names of the brothers of this J. NICHOLAUS KIMMEL and more details? Are all of them accounted for? We're stuck with the husband of CATARINA KIMEL EVANS MYERS in NC. Her first husband is our mystery. The date for J. NICHOLAUS is about right. Also, the son of CATARINA KIMEL above, BERNHARD/BARNEY KIMEL, b. abt. 1770, married CATARINA WEAVER or WEBER, b. 1771. I'm interested in following any leads on both KIMEL and WEBER in PA. Thanks and hope to hear from some of you. Patty

In a message dated 08/10/2000 8:00:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, coleman@cuer.laneta.apc.org writes: << Do any of you have the names of the brothers of this J. NICHOLAUS KIMMEL and more details? Are all of them accounted for? >> I have a Johann Nicholaus Kimmel born 19 Sep 1728. Because of the birthdate, I would assume we're talking about the same person here. One of his brothers, Michael, is my direct ancestor, which is why I have some info on this particular line. This is what I have for J. Nicholaus' siblings: Conrad b. 1722 Johann Philip b. 1724 (Johanh Nicholaus fits in here) Maria Christina b. 1731 Anna Maria Elizabeth b. 1732 Jacob b. 1734 Michael b. 1736 Anna Margaretha b. 1738 George b. 1743 Anthony b. 1745 Kep in mind that I gathered alot of this info from the Family Search program of the LDS church. Most of it is UNVERIFIED. I'd be happy to send you a GEDCOM file if you want all the info on the spouses, children, etc. Also, Tim are you out there? Tim can probably confirm whether the info I have is correct or not. ~ Pamela (Kimmel) Westfall in sunny CA :-)

Yes, surprise, surprise, I do find An Anna Maria Kimmel who married a Horner in my data base. According to my (uninvestigated and unproved) records, she was d/o J. Nicholaus Kimmel and Susanna Weber. Dates I have for Anna Maria are b 12/2/1768, presumably Somerset Co. PA, d 3/8/1852 Ontario, York Co. Markham Twp. DOM is c1788 Somerset Co.? Buried SE corner of home, Markham Twp, York Co., Ontario, Canada. I didn't write down my sources for any of this. (Austin Cooper's 200 Years of the Church of the Brethren in Brothersvalley 1762-1962 sounds like a good likely source and might well have these folks included in their notes on the various Brethren migrations.) However, Laurel Messenger, my notes say, deals with this family in its 11/86 issue. Says Daniel Horner Sr. died 13 June 1825 and was buried on the SE corner of his property Markham Twp. His wife Anna Maria (Kimmel) Horner died 8 Mar 1852 and was buried beside him. Shortly after their arrival in Canada, the Horners joined the Heise Hill Dunkard Church. Later generations were active in the Dunkard Community in Markham Twp. "For more information contact Steve Marshall, 434 Dellwood Dr., Orillia, Ontario, Canada L3V 209," but this was a 1986 note. First six children were born Quemahoning Twp, Somerset Co. PA. "About 1805-6 following the lead of Christian Troyer, Daniel moved his family from Somerset Co. to Mark Twp... Daniel settled in 1807 on lots 20 and 21, Conc 2, Markham Twp." Descendants of Daniel and Anna Maria still live in and around the area, it said (1986). Anna Maria's parents, according to my Kimmel records, were J. Nicholaus Kimmel, born 9/19/1728 Darmstadt (Germany), died 1804 York Co.PA.; and Susanna Weber born 1/23/1742. They m. 1758. no DOD for her and no parents. J. Nicholaus Kimmel was a s/o Johann Philip Kimmel (1695-1777) and Anna Elizabeth Voltz (c1695-1755), and we have ancestry etc. on these Kimmels way back. Anna Elizbaeth Voltz was d/o Andrew Voltz from Darmstadt. She died in Germany, and Johann Philip Kimmel then emigrated with his remaining family to PA to join his brothers, who had emigrated earlier. Does this help? Jan T

Hi , Here is another treasure waiting to be claimed. This is a photo for sale follow the link for more info. http://users.erinet.com/31363/photos2.htm Antique Family Photos Surnames H-L http://users.erinet.com/31363/fordand.htm Home Page PHOTO OF THE FOLLOWING FOR SALE: "KIMMEL, Leroy, reverse states "Leroy Kimmel and Mollie Hook when they got married"; taken by New Star Gallery, Ft. Wayne, Ind.; found Columbia City, Ind. 10 Feb 1996. " Betty

Hi, I know that some of you are also Musser family researchers. I found the following bible for sale while searching on Cindi's list. Follow the link for more information if you are interested. http://users.erinet.com/31363/family.htm Bible page http://users.erinet.com/31363/fordand.htm Home Page "MUSSER Family; Holy Bible; 768+ pp. published by Lippincott, Grambo & Co., Philadelphia 1851; binding split and broken, but still in one piece; entries begin with Daniel Musser (b 1803) and Maria Musser (b 1806), also contains some Mitchel and Harrington family data; a CDV of an elderly man in included and must have been a Musser relative, but we do not know who; the family pages are loose in the book and the edges are tattered, but all entries are complete; family lived in or near Lima, Ohio; found Allen, Mich. 01 Jun 1996. " Betty