I noticed that there is a discount if you submit your DNA as part of an established surname project. I searched for Kilgore, and here is the resulting page. I do not know how much the discount is. This is from the site familytreedna.com http://www.familytreedna.com/name_search.aspx?sType=eq&Searchname2=kilgore > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:18:18 -0400> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA> > Excellent> > [email protected] wrote:> > Dear Cousins,> > RE: DNA> >> > I contacted them (familytreedna.com)late last Spring (2008). I reported my known lineage back to my great-great grandfather Kilgore. I heard two weeks later from the company, but not from the family site administrator, and so was not able to follow through on the testing. I will try again with Familytreedna. Thank you for the information that they seem to be the best. If they answer me this time, I will do the test for as many markers as I can reasonably afford.> >> > Christopher (Kit) Kilgore> >> > D Rennow <[email protected]> wrote:> >> > > >> My daughter has studied genetics for many years. She researched the > >> sites and said this one seems to give the most for the money.> >> http://www.familytreedna.com/> >>> >>> >> There are two basic test.> >>> >> 1. Mitochondria (mtDNA) is only done through the female line. > >> Female's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back > >> hundreds of years)> >> Male's Mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother (back > >> hundreds of years)> >> A child can not test his or her father's mother's line. > >>> >> 2. Y-DNA: By testing the Y-DNA, males can determine the origin of their > >> paternal line. Note that the Y-DNA strictly checks the paternal line, > >> with no influence of any females along that line. > >> Male's father's father's father's father's father's father (back > >> hundreds of years)> >> Women can not take this test.> >>> >> Both test can show if you have Indians or blacks in your line.> >>> >> The next choice is how many markers to buy, 12, 25 or 37. The more the > >> better.> >>> >> So far there are 11 Kilgore males that have taken the test and are > >> registered on the site.> >>> >> Anyway, go to the site. There is a tutorial.> >>> >> _________________________________________________________> >>> >> OK now that we have covered the basics I have to cover one other point.> >>> >> Accuracy> >>> >> The test are accurate. They tell you what your genetic connection, > >> however that isn't necessarily the line you think it is.> >>> >> People fooled around in the old days just as much as they do today. > >> They also took kids in with no formal adoption. Women were raped. > >> Etc. Anthropological research has shown that world wide, young wives > >> tend to cheat on old husbands and women cheat more when they are most > >> fertile. > >>> >> I have a cousin that did not find out she was adopted until she was > >> about 55. She would have never known except another cousin told her. > >> Her parents died without telling her.> >>> >> When they first started the Y test, they wanted subjects that absolutely > >> KNEW who their fathers were. For example, the man looked just like his > >> father. His mother was a saint. His parents were married for years > >> before he was born. Of those men who KNEW who there father was... 1 > >> out of 7 were wrong. Those are mighty high odds.> >>> >> When I reminded someone of this in another group, one man told me that > >> my family may be full of sluts, but his wasn't! He was serious and > >> really nasty about it. My guess is that based on his reaction, he has > >> always questioned his genetic relationship to his father. Whatever, he > >> didn't need to be so nasty. I certainly didn't say he was > >> illegitimate. I just think people need to realize that they may > >> discover more than they want to know.> >>> >> Let me give you an example of how this can work.> >>> >> 2 descendants of Henry Walker born 1820 both take the Y test. The test > >> shows they are closely related and have the same ancestor. Does that > >> mean that they are both out of Henry? Maybe. It could be that there > >> was a smooth talking, really handsome stud, named Frank, living near > >> Henry. Henry had no idea that Frank fathered all but one of Henry's > >> children and half the other children in the same town. Another of > >> Henry's descendants takes the test and he doesn't match the the other > >> two. They say he isn't related to Henry. The fact is that he could be > >> the only one related to Henry. Since we can't test Henry directly, we > >> have to go with the odds. The more people that take the test the more > >> accurate the group results. > >>> >> Clear as mud?> >>> >>> >>> >> *> >> *> >>> >> -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >>> >> > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message