It would be very interesting if we did a Kilgore DNA... very interesting indeed... Gail On 9/9/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > What have I started? I thought I asked a simple question. > If you think this is confusing consider my Bartlett ancestry. There were > 12 > different lines from across the pond. Jim Bartlett did the dna to decipher > the 12 lines. > My guess is that you are trying to combine too many different lines. > > Some of my info is from John Evans who interviewed Ms Cuthberton before > she > died. > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] From the commander... > > > > Well Randy, if nothing else you ALWAYS put a smile on our faces and make > > us > > stop and think. > > > > You are a treasure and a keeper!! > > > > Gail > > > > > > On 9/9/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> ...of the pickle flute brigade, that is. > >> > >> Wow, we haven't seen this kind of emailing since the early days, when > >> Jerry > >> had to referee while the various lines duked it out online...while > >> maintaining > >> a level of jocularity, familiarity and familial concern not experienced > >> on > >> most such lists. > >> > >> I, of course, was the resident fruitcake, launching pickle flute > >> brigades, > >> port-a-potty-singing groups, tin foil howls at the moon, etc. > >> > >> Meanwhile, a tiny band of secret genealogists infiltrated the group and > >> steered us away from the myths and lore to the sturdy feel of > >> paper proofs. What > >> a service they render(ed); nailing down what could be known for certain > >> so > >> that the areas where we have to guess (5 brothers or 3?) could be > >> guessed > >> at > >> cordially but without planting flags of certainty on because the paper > >> didn't > >> prove it. > >> > >> For my money, if Vickie says it, then even the DAR is wrong if they > >> contradict her, and Dennie is a close second. And while I'm at it, I > >> guess I should > >> acknowledge, too, that the same fear I had of Jerry when he spoke > >> now rests > >> with Gail. She's the boss of me and this list too; she has the innate > >> ability > >> to tell me when to kid and when to be quiet without making me pout, > >> secrets > >> I'm willing to pay her dearly not to sell to my wife! > >> > >> At any rate, this ramble does have a point. One day while researching > >> one of > >> my books, I got bored at the Boston library and started hunting down > >> references to the Kilgores at King's Mountain. I found one book that > >> was listed as > >> no longer in print, but which was available in microfiche; it was > >> a narrative > >> of King's Mountain and Cowpens. That book made reference to three > >> Kilgores > >> only at King's Mountain, serving with John Sevier, and then mentioned > >> only > >> one Kilgore at Cowpens. I should hurry up and add that the book only > >> mentioned > >> individuals who had committed a notable act, so it wasn't a roster, > >> merely > >> a > >> narrative. It made no reference to relationships between the Kilgores > >> at > >> all. Now here's the sorry news: I've since moved three times and the > >> notes I > >> took that day (copied the microfiche) are buried somewhere in boxes in > >> the > >> basement, so what I just told you is hearsay. I'll find it someday, I'm > >> sure, > >> though with my health it's not likely to be soon. That said, it would > >> probably > >> be easier for me to trek back to the Boston library again. > >> > >> I also remember seeing convincing arguments when Jerry was with us > >> against > >> the 5 brothers theory, and the only place I've ever seen anyone say > there > >> were > >> 5 Kilgores at King's Mountain was on this list in reference to the > >> now-proven-as-best-guesses book that judge did. I was also once told by > >> an > >> Irish > >> researcher that Kilgore in Ireland is MacGillivray, and that that > >> strain were > >> really transplanted Scots...and that the Kilgore name comes from words > >> that mean > >> "people who live by the woods where goats are kept." I have no reason > >> to > >> give what they told me any credibility at all, but the wide range > >> of stories > >> makes me happy for the Vickie and Dennie's of the world; they make it > >> okay > >> for > >> writers like me to drift off into dreamland...(since Randall means > >> "wolf", > >> then that must make me the wolf who's hovering around the people who > >> live > >> by the > >> woods where goats are kept." > >> > >> By the way, literally right after I typed this "goats" thing, DHL > >> delivered > >> the very first copy of my book off the press!! Yippee! In two > weeks, > >> you > >> can find it at Target, Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc. It's already up > at > >> Amazon.com. Oops, that was off-topic again... > >> > >> Bob, we're glad to have new blood; you'll find this the wildest group of > >> cousin-chasers anywhere in genealogy, and as long as you can laugh (at > us > >> AND > >> yourself) you'll be glad you joined. The archives are incredibly > >> stuffed with > >> accurate info, and if you start your search by using these four > >> terms, you'll > >> find more than you can ever find elsewhere on the Kilgores: "vickie" > >> "dennie" "gail" "jerry". > >> > >> Always remember, though, that for the really important matters, everyone > >> on > >> this board always puts their purple boxers on, covers their left fingers > >> in > >> tin foil, and emails the list looking for me. I'm known to the > >> long-termers as > >> Wikimiki, which is Cherokee for handsome-dude-who-is-always-right. > >> > >> The-still-not-all-there-cousin, > >> Randy > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? 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