My mother's paternal family came over on their own ships. They owned a big shipping company. But I digress... Were the 53 ships full of pilgrims? Bob Shaw wrote: > Yes there is a list of ships and passengers for the early pilgrims from 1608 > to about 1635. > I have a copy of those. > Did you know there were 53 ships that came over before the Mayflower?? > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > fax 330 963 6858 > cell 330 247 8543 > phone 330 425 8819 > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> > To: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:33 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 > > > >> In the time that these Kilgores or earlier ones came to America, it wasn't >> required that ships maintain passenger lists. It was the discretion of >> the ship's captain to keep them or not-this was especially true in >> Southern ports. That's why passenger lists as a source are hit and miss. >> Until they actually became required, most persons coming to America >> weren't listed on any passenger lists or in any ports or any that survived >> until today. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sherry Arnold<mailto:[email protected]> >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 >> >> >> Vickie, thank you for taking your time to catch us new comers up on past >> research, I certainly appreciate it. >> >> Has anyone ever found any of these early Kilgores on a ship's passenger >> list? >> And do we have access to a record of departure lists from Ireland??? >> >> Sherry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gail Kilgore" >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 >> >> >> > Bob and others, >> > >> > Please remember that back when Addington wrote his book, documentation >> was >> > not as readily available as it is today. >> > >> > This book has been picked apart by this group searching the Kilgore >> name >> > and >> > have proven the information invalid. >> > >> > This is what Vicky is trying to say. >> > >> > This is also why the wrong information keeps getting printed as valid >> > solid >> > documentation when, in fact, it is wrong. >> > >> > Not to start an argument but to try and settle the truth, Bob what do >> you >> > have as solid in hand documentation of what you have found rather than >> > what >> > some other researcher has said? >> > >> > Heck, I can say that my husband's line of Kilgore's were first cousins >> of >> > Mary Queen of Scots but saying it and proving it is totally two >> different >> > things. >> > >> > I can also say, any new shred of information found on any of the lines >> > finds >> > it way to this list, so this group of researchers can almost call their >> > work >> > the "Gospel". >> > >> > Gail >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with >> the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >