That is the hew high tech method now. Don't understand the mechanics of it. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] From the commander... > It would be very interesting if we did a Kilgore DNA... very interesting > indeed... > > Gail > > > On 9/9/08, Bob Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What have I started? I thought I asked a simple question. >> If you think this is confusing consider my Bartlett ancestry. There were >> 12 >> different lines from across the pond. Jim Bartlett did the dna to >> decipher >> the 12 lines. >> My guess is that you are trying to combine too many different lines. >> >> Some of my info is from John Evans who interviewed Ms Cuthberton before >> she >> died. >> >> Charles R. (Bob) Shaw >> 2425 Sherwin Dr. >> Twinsburg Ohio 44087 >> fax 330 963 6858 >> cell 330 247 8543 >> phone 330 425 8819 >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] From the commander... >> >> >> > Well Randy, if nothing else you ALWAYS put a smile on our faces and >> > make >> > us >> > stop and think. >> > >> > You are a treasure and a keeper!! >> > >> > Gail >> > >> > >> > On 9/9/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> ...of the pickle flute brigade, that is. >> >> >> >> Wow, we haven't seen this kind of emailing since the early days, when >> >> Jerry >> >> had to referee while the various lines duked it out online...while >> >> maintaining >> >> a level of jocularity, familiarity and familial concern not >> >> experienced >> >> on >> >> most such lists. >> >> >> >> I, of course, was the resident fruitcake, launching pickle flute >> >> brigades, >> >> port-a-potty-singing groups, tin foil howls at the moon, etc. >> >> >> >> Meanwhile, a tiny band of secret genealogists infiltrated the group >> >> and >> >> steered us away from the myths and lore to the sturdy feel of >> >> paper proofs. What >> >> a service they render(ed); nailing down what could be known for >> >> certain >> >> so >> >> that the areas where we have to guess (5 brothers or 3?) could be >> >> guessed >> >> at >> >> cordially but without planting flags of certainty on because the >> >> paper >> >> didn't >> >> prove it. >> >> >> >> For my money, if Vickie says it, then even the DAR is wrong if they >> >> contradict her, and Dennie is a close second. And while I'm at it, I >> >> guess I should >> >> acknowledge, too, that the same fear I had of Jerry when he spoke >> >> now rests >> >> with Gail. She's the boss of me and this list too; she has the >> >> innate >> >> ability >> >> to tell me when to kid and when to be quiet without making me pout, >> >> secrets >> >> I'm willing to pay her dearly not to sell to my wife! >> >> >> >> At any rate, this ramble does have a point. One day while researching >> >> one of >> >> my books, I got bored at the Boston library and started hunting down >> >> references to the Kilgores at King's Mountain. I found one book that >> >> was listed as >> >> no longer in print, but which was available in microfiche; it was >> >> a narrative >> >> of King's Mountain and Cowpens. That book made reference to three >> >> Kilgores >> >> only at King's Mountain, serving with John Sevier, and then mentioned >> >> only >> >> one Kilgore at Cowpens. I should hurry up and add that the book only >> >> mentioned >> >> individuals who had committed a notable act, so it wasn't a roster, >> >> merely >> >> a >> >> narrative. It made no reference to relationships between the >> >> Kilgores >> >> at >> >> all. Now here's the sorry news: I've since moved three times and the >> >> notes I >> >> took that day (copied the microfiche) are buried somewhere in boxes >> >> in >> >> the >> >> basement, so what I just told you is hearsay. I'll find it someday, >> >> I'm >> >> sure, >> >> though with my health it's not likely to be soon. That said, it would >> >> probably >> >> be easier for me to trek back to the Boston library again. >> >> >> >> I also remember seeing convincing arguments when Jerry was with us >> >> against >> >> the 5 brothers theory, and the only place I've ever seen anyone say >> there >> >> were >> >> 5 Kilgores at King's Mountain was on this list in reference to the >> >> now-proven-as-best-guesses book that judge did. I was also once told >> >> by >> >> an >> >> Irish >> >> researcher that Kilgore in Ireland is MacGillivray, and that that >> >> strain were >> >> really transplanted Scots...and that the Kilgore name comes from words >> >> that mean >> >> "people who live by the woods where goats are kept." I have no >> >> reason >> >> to >> >> give what they told me any credibility at all, but the wide range >> >> of stories >> >> makes me happy for the Vickie and Dennie's of the world; they make it >> >> okay >> >> for >> >> writers like me to drift off into dreamland...(since Randall means >> >> "wolf", >> >> then that must make me the wolf who's hovering around the people who >> >> live >> >> by the >> >> woods where goats are kept." >> >> >> >> By the way, literally right after I typed this "goats" thing, DHL >> >> delivered >> >> the very first copy of my book off the press!! Yippee! In two >> weeks, >> >> you >> >> can find it at Target, Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc. It's already up >> at >> >> Amazon.com. Oops, that was off-topic again... >> >> >> >> Bob, we're glad to have new blood; you'll find this the wildest group >> >> of >> >> cousin-chasers anywhere in genealogy, and as long as you can laugh (at >> us >> >> AND >> >> yourself) you'll be glad you joined. The archives are incredibly >> >> stuffed with >> >> accurate info, and if you start your search by using these four >> >> terms, you'll >> >> find more than you can ever find elsewhere on the Kilgores: "vickie" >> >> "dennie" "gail" "jerry". >> >> >> >> Always remember, though, that for the really important matters, >> >> everyone >> >> on >> >> this board always puts their purple boxers on, covers their left >> >> fingers >> >> in >> >> tin foil, and emails the list looking for me. I'm known to the >> >> long-termers as >> >> Wikimiki, which is Cherokee for handsome-dude-who-is-always-right. >> >> >> >> The-still-not-all-there-cousin, >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? 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