I wanted to demonstrate how mangled stories can become. Some of the Marion Co TN branch of Kilgores who descend from Robert & Winnie believe that the name change from Douglas to Kilgore occurred after the Kilgore's came to America-that their ancestors were great Indian fighters who came to have the name Kilgore because they screamed "Kill" and "Gore" at the Indians they were fighting. Another branch has this story: Beth Pryor Harper: "My cousin who is a daughter of my great uncle on the Kilgore side repeated the log cabin story for me again. She is a very dertermined person with a memory like an elephant and I never disagree with her. Now I am backing up on the whole thing. Here is her story."Three brothers, I believe it was came over from Ireland together. They had killed a man in self defense but because of the turmoil in Ireland at that time they escapted and came to America and changed their name from Douglas to Kilgore. They came from North Carolina to Tennessee and my great-great grandfather built a solid walnut house in the Sequatchie Valley near Victoria. In some way a many got killed on the stairsteps (and my husband remembers seeing the blood stain they could not remove). and after the killing he sold out and came to Georgia, and my husband's grandfather bought the house" That is her story. She is also telling me something about the "Black Douglases: in Ireland, as if they might have been a gang. This cousin's husband's family later owned the house. She said her father told her the story may times. This is an old email I printed sent to the Kilgore list -vjm Vickie

There were Black Douglas's and Red Douglas's I think it was because of their coloring of skin and hair. There were many Kilgore's Your 3 brothers were not the same as my 5 brothers that fought at Kings Mountain. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> To: "Kilgore" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Mangled history >I wanted to demonstrate how mangled stories can become. Some of the Marion >Co TN branch of Kilgores who descend from Robert & Winnie believe that the >name change from Douglas to Kilgore occurred after the Kilgore's came to >America-that their ancestors were great Indian fighters who came to have >the name Kilgore because they screamed "Kill" and "Gore" at the Indians >they were fighting. > Another branch has this story: Beth Pryor Harper: "My cousin who is a > daughter of my great uncle on the Kilgore side repeated the log cabin > story for me again. She is a very dertermined person with a memory like > an elephant and I never disagree with her. Now I am backing up on the > whole thing. Here is her story."Three brothers, I believe it was came > over from Ireland together. They had killed a man in self defense but > because of the turmoil in Ireland at that time they escapted and came to > America and changed their name from Douglas to Kilgore. They came from > North Carolina to Tennessee and my great-great grandfather built a solid > walnut house in the Sequatchie Valley near Victoria. In some way a many > got killed on the stairsteps (and my husband remembers seeing the blood > stain they could not remove). and after the killing he sold out and came > to Georgia, and my husband's grandfather bought the house" That is her > story. She is also telling me something about the ! > "Black Douglases: in Ireland, as if they might have been a gang. This > cousin's husband's family later owned the house. She said her father told > her the story may times. This is an old email I printed sent to the > Kilgore list -vjm > > Vickie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Did you play the game of "gossip" when you were a child? I think this is even more fun. I suppose that if I wanted to win a law suit I would be more accurate with wills, estates etc. I just use census, places, names, children's names and written family history to confirm linage. The children's names make the best confirmation that it is the person in question. I also have found info in stories told by their friends (and our ancestors).: Porter, Green, Wetzel, Hutchinson, Zane It is evident that there was a bunch of Kilgore's that came over and it took a while to sort out from which bunch my wife descended. We have family history (Hutchinson) that confirms the Rev. Robert Kilgore and his father Robert who fought in the Rev. War. and died in Wise Va. I get the feeling that they all were a "rowdy" lot. Clear back to Kill and gone. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> To: "Kilgore" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Mangled history >I wanted to demonstrate how mangled stories can become. Some of the Marion >Co TN branch of Kilgores who descend from Robert & Winnie believe that the >name change from Douglas to Kilgore occurred after the Kilgore's came to >America-that their ancestors were great Indian fighters who came to have >the name Kilgore because they screamed "Kill" and "Gore" at the Indians >they were fighting. > Another branch has this story: Beth Pryor Harper: "My cousin who is a > daughter of my great uncle on the Kilgore side repeated the log cabin > story for me again. She is a very dertermined person with a memory like > an elephant and I never disagree with her. Now I am backing up on the > whole thing. Here is her story."Three brothers, I believe it was came > over from Ireland together. They had killed a man in self defense but > because of the turmoil in Ireland at that time they escapted and came to > America and changed their name from Douglas to Kilgore. They came from > North Carolina to Tennessee and my great-great grandfather built a solid > walnut house in the Sequatchie Valley near Victoria. In some way a many > got killed on the stairsteps (and my husband remembers seeing the blood > stain they could not remove). and after the killing he sold out and came > to Georgia, and my husband's grandfather bought the house" That is her > story. She is also telling me something about the ! > "Black Douglases: in Ireland, as if they might have been a gang. This > cousin's husband's family later owned the house. She said her father told > her the story may times. This is an old email I printed sent to the > Kilgore list -vjm > > Vickie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >