Something occurred to me while I was typing up my earlier messages and I was trying to think outside the box-then I got sidetracked and forgot to include it. We're so immured in thinking that the Robert Kilgore shot through the body was Robert M: Winnie-and I don't say it wasn't-just that there is a new possible candidate-that we forget to look at it possibly from their perspective. We know that Charles D:1823 and Robert Kilgore D:1782 were both in VA in 1780. They lived within a mile of each other and probably travelled there together from NC-we also know that Robert's widow & children spent at least some time in Greene Co TN c1787- which supports the notion they were brothers. Now think that in 1780 when the call came to join up and stop Tarleton-not every able man would have left the settlement and gone-someone had to stay behind to guard against possible Indian attacks and such (a very real possibility)-we can't forget Robert was killed by Indians just two years later. What if the two brothers got together and who knows flipped a coin and said one of us goes and one of us stays to guard our families? That's very likely. What if the one who stayed (IF that happened) was Robert while Charles went ahead -may be they went by age and he was the younger one?? I think that this was a very real possibility. It would also explain why there doesn't seem to be any evidence that Winnie Clayton Kilgore ever applied for a widow's pension-even though she was forced to bind out at least one son, Hiram and probably a daughter, Nancy as well-meaning she could have used any extra income she could get. Of course, she may have and that evidence burned up with the War Office-but we do know that she was still living as late as 1813. The men at King's mountain came out of TN, VA & SC (I'm not sure about NC-I think some came from there too). Charles Kilgore didn't necessarily have brothers there-that's G. W. Kilgore's supposition based on the names in the book. He could have had nephews there-if he was Thomas Kilgore's (D:1822) brother. Vickie