In the time that these Kilgores or earlier ones came to America, it wasn't required that ships maintain passenger lists. It was the discretion of the ship's captain to keep them or not-this was especially true in Southern ports. That's why passenger lists as a source are hit and miss. Until they actually became required, most persons coming to America weren't listed on any passenger lists or in any ports or any that survived until today. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherry Arnold<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 Vickie, thank you for taking your time to catch us new comers up on past research, I certainly appreciate it. Has anyone ever found any of these early Kilgores on a ship's passenger list? And do we have access to a record of departure lists from Ireland??? Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 > Bob and others, > > Please remember that back when Addington wrote his book, documentation was > not as readily available as it is today. > > This book has been picked apart by this group searching the Kilgore name > and > have proven the information invalid. > > This is what Vicky is trying to say. > > This is also why the wrong information keeps getting printed as valid > solid > documentation when, in fact, it is wrong. > > Not to start an argument but to try and settle the truth, Bob what do you > have as solid in hand documentation of what you have found rather than > what > some other researcher has said? > > Heck, I can say that my husband's line of Kilgore's were first cousins of > Mary Queen of Scots but saying it and proving it is totally two different > things. > > I can also say, any new shred of information found on any of the lines > finds > it way to this list, so this group of researchers can almost call their > work > the "Gospel". > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes there is a list of ships and passengers for the early pilgrims from 1608 to about 1635. I have a copy of those. Did you know there were 53 ships that came over before the Mayflower?? Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 fax 330 963 6858 cell 330 247 8543 phone 330 425 8819 [email protected] [email protected] www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickie Miller" <[email protected]> To: "Sherry Arnold" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 > In the time that these Kilgores or earlier ones came to America, it wasn't > required that ships maintain passenger lists. It was the discretion of > the ship's captain to keep them or not-this was especially true in > Southern ports. That's why passenger lists as a source are hit and miss. > Until they actually became required, most persons coming to America > weren't listed on any passenger lists or in any ports or any that survived > until today. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sherry Arnold<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:09 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 > > > Vickie, thank you for taking your time to catch us new comers up on past > research, I certainly appreciate it. > > Has anyone ever found any of these early Kilgores on a ship's passenger > list? > And do we have access to a record of departure lists from Ireland??? > > Sherry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Kilgore" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] part 3 > > > > Bob and others, > > > > Please remember that back when Addington wrote his book, documentation > was > > not as readily available as it is today. > > > > This book has been picked apart by this group searching the Kilgore > name > > and > > have proven the information invalid. > > > > This is what Vicky is trying to say. > > > > This is also why the wrong information keeps getting printed as valid > > solid > > documentation when, in fact, it is wrong. > > > > Not to start an argument but to try and settle the truth, Bob what do > you > > have as solid in hand documentation of what you have found rather than > > what > > some other researcher has said? > > > > Heck, I can say that my husband's line of Kilgore's were first cousins > of > > Mary Queen of Scots but saying it and proving it is totally two > different > > things. > > > > I can also say, any new shred of information found on any of the lines > > finds > > it way to this list, so this group of researchers can almost call their > > work > > the "Gospel". > > > > Gail > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >