Hi Freda, The Joseph I was referring to is the one who was born in Markinch Scotland and moved to Maine. The kit number is 163654, and the lineage is given on the result pages as: John Kilgore, b. abt 1660, Scotland, Joseph Killgore, b 1690 Markinch Scotland, John Killgore, b. Maine, Joseph, b. Maine, Isaac, Sr., Maine, Isaac, Jr., Andrew, b. Michigan, Roy Sr. b. Michigan I don't see a kit number 114777 on the results page. There is a 114727, which is the James listed as follows: James Kilgore b. 1760, Hartsville, SC Darlington Dist., Peter Kilgore, Henry Kilgore, Robert Kilgore, b. 1850 Calhoun MS, Lewis Kilgore., b. 1886, Young's MS, Kilgore , Pope, Panola, MS It appears that Joseph, James and and your Peter Kilgo all come from what I am hypothesizing as the Scottish branch, as opposed to the Scots Irish branch, of the Kilgores. The DNA evidence, as far as I can tell, supports the theory that your brother is descended from Peter, the first Kilgore in America (1628. according to Vickie's excellent information,) who might have arrived directly from Scotland. It's also possible that he came to the new world from Ireland, as the Plantation of Ulster, begun in 1606 and taken over by the Crown in 1609, was already well under way. If so, he came here prior to the genetic diversification of the Kilgore lineages, and thus would have had the "original" Kilgore markers. At least that's my theory. Hope this helps, JK On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Freda Daniel wrote: > John, > > Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in > left field on DNA. > > My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that > I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co., > NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and > thus the James line. > > I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is > anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to > Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? > > Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of > Peter, Jr. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, I was trying to say Spotsylvania off the top of my head and it came out Scott. This tells you there isn't much in the top of my head. I am aware of Peter I of Lancaster. He died 1709. Sons: Peter II and John, daughters: Ann and Margaret. No wife is mentioned. This is from: Abstracts LANCASTER COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS 1653 - 1800.   >From SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY RECORDS 1721 - 1800: (my e-mail won't get out of Italics) Mary Kilgore, admx. of Peter, decd., with John and William Hackney, sec. May 2, 1727. This would be the Mary Haydon that m Peter Kilgow, 1 Nov 1722. This would be Peter II, Peter and John witnessed a deed there in 1726. These men would be brothers.   There were brothers Peter III and John in Johnston Co., NC as per the will of John, 1761. I have a copy of this will.  John does not mention a son Haden. He states that his plantation borders Haden's line. There are two lines in the will that have holes. Because of the dates, I am assuming (not proven) they are the children of Peter II and Mary Hadon. Her husband must have died young.   Now we are to Peter III. There is an IGI record stating that Peter Kilgow m Rachel Hunter. they give the date1762 but I have not found this record. Also, there doesn't seem to be a will for this Peter but he was the one in Johnston and Wake Co, NC. He is the father of my James.   Does any of this make sense?   John, the #114277 was just a typo. It should be #114274. I think there is no doubt that the SC group came from NC. There are a lot of people researching this line. I knew about the Maine Kilgores but hadn't considered they were related to my ancestors.     --- On Sat, 11/21/09, John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com> wrote: From: John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:58 PM Hi Freda, The Joseph I was referring to is the one who was born in Markinch  Scotland and moved to Maine. The kit number is 163654, and the  lineage is given on the result pages as: John Kilgore, b. abt 1660, Scotland, Joseph Killgore, b 1690 Markinch Scotland, John Killgore, b. Maine, Joseph, b. Maine, Isaac, Sr., Maine, Isaac, Jr., Andrew, b. Michigan, Roy Sr. b. Michigan I don't see a kit number 114777 on the results page. There is a  114727, which is the James listed as follows: James Kilgore b. 1760, Hartsville, SC Darlington Dist., Peter Kilgore, Henry Kilgore, Robert Kilgore, b. 1850 Calhoun MS, Lewis Kilgore., b. 1886, Young's MS, Kilgore , Pope, Panola, MS It appears that Joseph, James and and your Peter Kilgo all come from  what I am hypothesizing as the Scottish branch, as opposed to the  Scots Irish branch, of the Kilgores. The DNA evidence, as far as I  can tell, supports the theory that your brother is descended from  Peter, the first Kilgore in America (1628. according to Vickie's  excellent information,) who might have arrived directly from  Scotland. It's also possible that he came to the new world from  Ireland, as the Plantation of Ulster, begun in 1606 and taken over by  the Crown in 1609,  was already well under way. If so, he came here  prior to the genetic diversification of the Kilgore lineages, and  thus would have had the "original" Kilgore markers. At least that's  my theory. Hope this helps, JK On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Freda Daniel wrote: > John, > > Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in  > left field on DNA. > > My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that  > I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co.,  > NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and  > thus the James line. > > I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is  > anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to  > Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? > > Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of  > Peter, Jr. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message