Vickie, According to family legend, our Kilgores also owned slaves and in Wythe Co, VA but we have never been able to prove that as we have never been able to connect our Avarilla Jane Kilgore Heaton to any Kilgore. I keep looking when possible and reading all the info on the Kilgore rootsweb but still have my brick wall. In a message dated 12/12/2009 8:46:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vickie7293@msn.com writes: Considering the number of Kilgore slave holders prior to the Civil War it's to be expected that at least some passed on their genetic material to their slaves. I'm 99% positive that my ancestor Charles Kilgore did and/or it was one of his sons. He freed a slave in his will and she almost certainly bore either Charles or one of his sons a child whose last name became Henderson because Charles' son, disobeyed his wishes and instead of freeing the slave he sold her to his brother-in-law. Many years later, this former slave was able to go to court to sue for her freedom; which the court granted along with the children she had after the date she was supposed to have been freed in the first place. This was in 1853 however, her owner appealed the ruling and it was still in the courts in 1858. I don't know the outcome. I suspect it wasn't until the Emancipation Proclamation that she was actually freed rather than through the courts; although they did rule in her favor. Her el! dest child, Washington Henderson was listed as a mulatto on 1850 slave census and Charles Kilgore really didn't have the wherewithal to have been simply magnanimous. I suspect he freed her because of her child/children and that he knew they were related. Vickie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yikes, with all the Kilgore's that were in VA, you still have a brick wall? Gail On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:59 PM, <DJones819@aol.com> wrote: > Vickie, > > According to family legend, our Kilgores also owned slaves and in Wythe > Co, VA but we have never been able to prove that as we have never been > able > to connect our Avarilla Jane Kilgore Heaton to any Kilgore. I keep > looking > when possible and reading all the info on the Kilgore rootsweb but still > have my brick wall. > > > In a message dated 12/12/2009 8:46:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > vickie7293@msn.com writes: > > Considering the number of Kilgore slave holders prior to the Civil War > it's to be expected that at least some passed on their genetic material to > their slaves. I'm 99% positive that my ancestor Charles Kilgore did > and/or it > was one of his sons. He freed a slave in his will and she almost > certainly bore either Charles or one of his sons a child whose last name > became > Henderson because Charles' son, disobeyed his wishes and instead of > freeing > the slave he sold her to his brother-in-law. Many years later, this > former > slave was able to go to court to sue for her freedom; which the court > granted along with the children she had after the date she was supposed to > have > been freed in the first place. This was in 1853 however, her owner > appealed > the ruling and it was still in the courts in 1858. I don't know the > outcome. I suspect it wasn't until the Emancipation Proclamation that she > was > actually freed rather than through the courts; although they did rule in > her > favor. Her el! > dest child, Washington Henderson was listed as a mulatto on 1850 slave > census and Charles Kilgore really didn't have the wherewithal to have been > simply magnanimous. I suspect he freed her because of her child/children > and > that he knew they were related. > > Vickie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Gail Meyer Kilgore D'Lites of the Desert Casa Grande, AZ 85122

Look at a 1850 or 1860 census. Sometimes they had the names and a "freeborn". The others were slaves. C Robert (Bob) Shaw Engineered special Products Inc. Product Engineer ADSCO Line Products Inc. 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 Phone: 330 425 8819 Fax; 330 963 6858 superchief87@yahoo.com superchief87@roadrunner.com www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 12:57:06 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Kilgore slaveholders Yikes, with all the Kilgore's that were in VA, you still have a brick wall? Gail On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:59 PM, <DJones819@aol.com> wrote: > Vickie, > > According to family legend, our Kilgores also owned slaves and in Wythe > Co, VA but we have never been able to prove that as we have never been > able > to connect our Avarilla Jane Kilgore Heaton to any Kilgore. I keep > looking > when possible and reading all the info on the Kilgore rootsweb but still > have my brick wall. > > > In a message dated 12/12/2009 8:46:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > vickie7293@msn.com writes: > > Considering the number of Kilgore slave holders prior to the Civil War > it's to be expected that at least some passed on their genetic material to > their slaves. I'm 99% positive that my ancestor Charles Kilgore did > and/or it > was one of his sons. He freed a slave in his will and she almost > certainly bore either Charles or one of his sons a child whose last name > became > Henderson because Charles' son, disobeyed his wishes and instead of > freeing > the slave he sold her to his brother-in-law. Many years later, this > former > slave was able to go to court to sue for her freedom; which the court > granted along with the children she had after the date she was supposed to > have > been freed in the first place. This was in 1853 however, her owner > appealed > the ruling and it was still in the courts in 1858. I don't know the > outcome. I suspect it wasn't until the Emancipation Proclamation that she > was > actually freed rather than through the courts; although they did rule in > her > favor. Her el! > dest child, Washington Henderson was listed as a mulatto on 1850 slave > census and Charles Kilgore really didn't have the wherewithal to have been > simply magnanimous. I suspect he freed her because of her child/children > and > that he knew they were related. > > Vickie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Gail Meyer Kilgore D'Lites of the Desert Casa Grande, AZ 85122 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message