I'm so glad that our Kilgore ancestry stops with Nancy b. 1799. It seems to get very confusing after that. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 330 425 8819 fax 330 963 6858 Engineered Special Products Inc. Product Engineer Adsco Line Products Inc. superchief87@roadrunner.com superchief87@yahoo.com www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freda Daniel" <ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> To: <kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts Vickie, This is confusing. Maybe Elizabeth was the first wife of Peter or there was an Elizabeth Kilgore m William Hutchings before 1664. She could possibly be a sister to Peter and they would both have inherited from Alexander Reade. Elizabeth Hutchings is on several deeds with Alexander Reade. This needs a lot of work to figure out if Peter of Wake was the s/o Elizabeth or Mary Haydon. I found your listings on Peter I and Peter II in the archives. I know there are many Lancaster books. I have ABSTRACTS OF LANCASTER COUNTY, VIRGINIA, WILLS 1653-1899 and LANCASTER COUNTY VIRGINIA MARRIAGE BONDS 1652-1850 but can't find any later ones for sale. Wish I had time to go to Houston Clayton Library. --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Vickie Miller <vickie7293@msn.com> wrote: From: Vickie Miller <vickie7293@msn.com> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 8:08 AM Actually according to this, Peter's wife was named Elizabeth & he was the son of Peter Kilgore and Anne Reed d/o Alexander Reed and the elder Peter was in Lancaster Co VA as early as 1628!!!! Lancaster County Deeds 1710-1714 p9-10 In a deed dated 16 Mar 1711/1712 from Peter Kilgore of Lancaster Co to Thomas Pinson for 40 acres of land. It states that this land was originally sold to Peter Kilgore & Robert Bennett by Deed of Sale from William Thatcher & Elizabeth his wife dated 20 March 1628 and that this land was devised unto Peter by LW & Testament of Peter's father, Peter Kilgore. In another deed p42-44 it states tht land being sold by Peter Kilgore in a deed dated 8 Jan 1713 that the land was devised to his mother Anne Reed by Last Will & Testament of her father Alexander Reed dated 22 Feb 1669. This deed is signed Peter Kilgore & Elizabeth Kilgore p75-77 In a deed dated 2 Jan 1713 the deed proves that Anne Reed's husband was Peter Kilgore and their son was also named Peter Kilgore So you can trace your lineage back to 1628-Lancaster Co VA-which makes this Peter the earliest known Kilgore in the US Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Freda Daniel<mailto:ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts Actually, I was trying to say Spotsylvania off the top of my head and it came out Scott. This tells you there isn't much in the top of my head. I am aware of Peter I of Lancaster. He died 1709. Sons: Peter II and John, daughters: Ann and Margaret. No wife is mentioned. This is from: Abstracts LANCASTER COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS 1653 - 1800. >From SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY RECORDS 1721 - 1800: (my e-mail won't get out of >Italics) Mary Kilgore, admx. of Peter, decd., with John and William >Hackney, sec. May 2, 1727. This would be the Mary Haydon that m Peter >Kilgow, 1 Nov 1722. This would be Peter II, Peter and John witnessed a deed >there in 1726. These men would be brothers. There were brothers Peter III and John in Johnston Co., NC as per the will of John, 1761. I have a copy of this will. John does not mention a son Haden. He states that his plantation borders Haden's line. There are two lines in the will that have holes. Because of the dates, I am assuming (not proven) they are the children of Peter II and Mary Hadon. Her husband must have died young. Now we are to Peter III. There is an IGI record stating that Peter Kilgow m Rachel Hunter. they give the date1762 but I have not found this record. Also, there doesn't seem to be a will for this Peter but he was the one in Johnston and Wake Co, NC. He is the father of my James. Does any of this make sense? John, the #114277 was just a typo. It should be #114274. I think there is no doubt that the SC group came from NC. There are a lot of people researching this line. I knew about the Maine Kilgores but hadn't considered they were related to my ancestors. --- On Sat, 11/21/09, John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com<mailto:john@johnkilgore.com>> wrote: From: John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com<mailto:john@johnkilgore.com>> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:58 PM Hi Freda, The Joseph I was referring to is the one who was born in Markinch Scotland and moved to Maine. The kit number is 163654, and the lineage is given on the result pages as: John Kilgore, b. abt 1660, Scotland, Joseph Killgore, b 1690 Markinch Scotland, John Killgore, b. Maine, Joseph, b. Maine, Isaac, Sr., Maine, Isaac, Jr., Andrew, b. Michigan, Roy Sr. b. Michigan I don't see a kit number 114777 on the results page. There is a 114727, which is the James listed as follows: James Kilgore b. 1760, Hartsville, SC Darlington Dist., Peter Kilgore, Henry Kilgore, Robert Kilgore, b. 1850 Calhoun MS, Lewis Kilgore., b. 1886, Young's MS, Kilgore , Pope, Panola, MS It appears that Joseph, James and and your Peter Kilgo all come from what I am hypothesizing as the Scottish branch, as opposed to the Scots Irish branch, of the Kilgores. The DNA evidence, as far as I can tell, supports the theory that your brother is descended from Peter, the first Kilgore in America (1628. according to Vickie's excellent information,) who might have arrived directly from Scotland. It's also possible that he came to the new world from Ireland, as the Plantation of Ulster, begun in 1606 and taken over by the Crown in 1609, was already well under way. If so, he came here prior to the genetic diversification of the Kilgore lineages, and thus would have had the "original" Kilgore markers. At least that's my theory. Hope this helps, JK On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Freda Daniel wrote: > John, > > Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in > left field on DNA. > > My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that > I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co., > NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and > thus the James line. > > I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is > anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to > Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? > > Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of > Peter, Jr. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com<mailto:request@rootsweb.com> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just trying to knock down some brick walls........big brick walls..... I have a brick wall so huge and nothing has tumbled it... Kilgore/Alexander line. I am almost positive that the Alexander line connects to the 7 in MD but can't find Jack's 5th G Grandfather Alexander in PA. Scream....The Kilgore's were easy... the maternal line is not easy. I need someone in PA with lots of "free" time that wants a challenge.. either York or Lancaster Co., PA. AND, Jack has talk-able family living in both counties and they are not as serious about genealogy as some of us are. g On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Charles Shaw <superchief87@roadrunner.com>wrote: > I'm so glad that our Kilgore ancestry stops with Nancy b. 1799. It seems > to > get very confusing after that. > > Charles R. (Bob) Shaw > 2425 Sherwin dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > 330 425 8819 > fax 330 963 6858 > Engineered Special Products Inc. > Product Engineer > Adsco Line Products Inc. > superchief87@roadrunner.com > superchief87@yahoo.com > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freda Daniel" <ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> > To: <kilgore@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts >