I prefer not to have people send me attachments in email. That is my preference. Unless I know who the sender is and what the attachment contains it keeps my computer safe. Dd

If you want to send attachments, you must send them privately to the person you are mailing. They won't go through the list. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Shaw<mailto:superchief87@yahoo.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Bob... Great, But how do I email Jack Templeton with attachments (and the rest of you)? C Robert (Bob) Shaw Engineered special Products Inc. Product Engineer ADSCO Line Products Inc. 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 Phone: 330 425 8819 Fax; 330 963 6858 superchief87@yahoo.com<mailto:superchief87@yahoo.com> superchief87@roadrunner.com<mailto:superchief87@roadrunner.com> www.engineeredspecialproducts.com<http://www.engineeredspecialproducts.com/> ----- Original Message ---- From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com>> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:41:19 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Bob... Bob, the email that you were sending Jack Templeton bounced because it was too big in size for the mail list and I think you had an attachment and attachments aren't allowed on RW mail lists. You can send it to him privately but not on the list... I did subscribe Jack to the mail list so that the two of you can now talk rather than use the message boards. And, we all get to listen in on your conversation ;-)) Gail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jacktempleton27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/938.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hopefully your mailing will include a mailing address so I can make a contribution as a way of saying thanks for your selfless endeavors. If not send a return address to jacktempleton27@me.com Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoyEKillgore_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/938.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your interest Jack. The books are free of charge. There have been many who have made free will donations and they are accepted but certainly that is not my purpose at all and they are definitely not required. I have had interested people donate information since 1971, mainly to our family genealogy of Joseph Killgore, and this information contains many hand me downs from generations long gone. This particular book is a foray into an area of more recent effort but invlolves everyone knopwn to have Kilgour ancestors. As such I came across considerable information that I believe will be helpful to kilgour researchers going forward and it will be to them to further the cause, refine it, add to it, and revise it as they see fit. So, it is my way of saying thank you to all our common ancestors and to the many others who thoughtfully have maintained a family interest for those so interested of future generations. Your book will go out today. Roy E. Killgore Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jacktempleton27 Surnames: Kilgore, Alley, Bays, Gilliam, Stidham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gail & Vickie, I would like to join the mail list. How do I sign up? My Kilgores are on the maternal side via Robin's daughter Nancy (7/15/1799-2/4/1891)-my 3g grandmother. Unfortunately Kilgores are not in my MtDNA line. My MtDNA results did however confirm my Gilliam/Stidham roots back to the mid 1750's. Facebook has an excellent group, "Echoes From the Past" ,managed by a 5g grandson of Robin. This group has at least 5-10 descendants of Robin. I'll try to figure out how to post a plea for YDNA and MtDNA testing. The descendants include @ least 2 descendants of Robin's daughters; Susannah (m Peter Bays) & Nancy (m David Alley). MtDNA tests of mother-mother-mother descendants of Robin's daughters COULD provide confirmation of paper trails back to Jane/Jean Porter. Similarly MtDNA tests of Robin's sister's maternal descendants COULD provide confirmation of paper trails back to at-least Winnie. I say "could" because it's contingent on building a good data base. Along with my facebook plea, I'll also post on the Scott Co genforum & Sullivan Co, TN genforum where so many Scott Co. cousins migrated in the early 30's for jobs in Kingsport, the "City of Industry". Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Great, But how do I email Jack Templeton with attachments (and the rest of you)? C Robert (Bob) Shaw Engineered special Products Inc. Product Engineer ADSCO Line Products Inc. 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 Phone: 330 425 8819 Fax; 330 963 6858 superchief87@yahoo.com superchief87@roadrunner.com www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:41:19 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Bob... Bob, the email that you were sending Jack Templeton bounced because it was too big in size for the mail list and I think you had an attachment and attachments aren't allowed on RW mail lists. You can send it to him privately but not on the list... I did subscribe Jack to the mail list so that the two of you can now talk rather than use the message boards. And, we all get to listen in on your conversation ;-)) Gail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob, the email that you were sending Jack Templeton bounced because it was too big in size for the mail list and I think you had an attachment and attachments aren't allowed on RW mail lists. You can send it to him privately but not on the list... I did subscribe Jack to the mail list so that the two of you can now talk rather than use the message boards. And, we all get to listen in on your conversation ;-)) Gail

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jacktempleton27 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Vickie, Thanks so much for your reply. With so many variables, I think I'm better off at this point to stick to "the brothers" & save alternate fathers for later. Based on Gabriel Lea Kilgore's letter, I have four PROBABLES: (1) Thomas [c1745-1822] of Robertson Co, (2) your Charles [c1740-1783], (3) William of GA, & (4) Ralph. Based on the 36/37 match between (I think) your brother & a descendent of Stephen [1767-1841], s/o Robert/Winney, I would add Robert [c1735-1782], Winnie's spouse as a 5th probable. Gut judgement leads me to add two POSSIBLES, Hiram & James. Incidentally DNA results to me are a little clearer if I substitute "years" instead of "generations" to define the Most Likely Estimate (MLE) for the time when the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) would have lived, FTDNA in their definition of terms say they use 25 yrs/generation. In their package with results, they say their population geneticist feels that 25-30 years best expresses a typical generation in post dark age periods. The 90% probability of 8 generations for a 36/37 match equates to 200-240 yrs. Thanks again for your reply. If you think I'm too far off base with my PROBABLE/POSSIBLE guesses please let me know Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Vickie, You should ask Jack to join the mail list and ask him if he has a Kilgore family member who can do the DNA. Nell, I see you called on caller ID. I was between Colorado and Arizona. Got home a week ago today so I am now at the 836 number if you need to talk I should be home part of the day tomorrow. Gail On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com < gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jacktempleton27 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Vickie, > Thanks so much for your reply. With so many variables, I think I'm better > off at this point to stick to "the brothers" & save alternate fathers for > later. > Based on Gabriel Lea Kilgore's letter, I have four PROBABLES: (1) Thomas > [c1745-1822] of Robertson Co, (2) your Charles [c1740-1783], (3) William of > GA, & (4) Ralph. Based on the 36/37 match between (I think) your brother & a > descendent of Stephen [1767-1841], s/o Robert/Winney, I would add Robert > [c1735-1782], Winnie's spouse as a 5th probable. Gut judgement leads me to > add two POSSIBLES, Hiram & James. > Incidentally DNA results to me are a little clearer if I substitute "years" > instead of "generations" to define the Most Likely Estimate (MLE) for the > time when the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) would have lived, FTDNA in > their definition of terms say they use 25 yrs/generation. In their package > with results, they say their population geneticist feels that 25-30 years > best expresses a typical generation in post dark age periods. The 90% > probability of 8 generations for a 36/37 match equates to 200-240 yrs. > Thanks again for your reply. If you think I'm too far off base with my > PROBABLE/POSSIBLE guesses please let me know > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VICKIE7293 Surnames: Kilgore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think that the 1858 letter from Gabriel Lea Kilgore to the Thompson Journals may hold the key to the brothers. It stated that Thomas Kilgore Jr (md Phoebe Lea) was the s/o Thomas Kilgore died 1822 Robertson Co TN whose brothers were listed as Charles, William & Ralph and that their father unnamed (but apparently not named Thomas) had come to MD or PA some 200 years before 1858. I think that time frame of 200 years is subjective. We now know from DNA evidence that William Kilgore died Augusta Co GA is closely associated with Charles Kilgore died 1823. No male descendant of Thomas Kilgore died 1822 has yet submitted DNA. The letter also stated that it was Thomas Kilgore Jr died 1857 Columbia Co AR who "lost a brother at King's Mountain fighting alongside him". I suspect this may have been the Hiram listed by G. W. Kilgore. I think that whatever Judge G. W. Kilgore found, it was a mangle version of either this letter or info submitted to a local genealogy book by a des! cendant of Thomas Kilgore. DNA evidence also seems to point to Thomas Kilgore of Cecil Co MD (married Rebecca Lasley) as sharing a grandfather with Charles Kilgore or possibly a great-grandfather. I now suspect that Thomas Kilgore of MD may have been a brother of the Robert Kilgore of 1755 tax list whom I believe was the f/o Charles died 1823 Greene Co TN, Thomas died 1822 Robertson Co TN and William & Ralph Kilgore died before 1800 Augusta District GA. Note: Robert Kilgore (died 1782) not mentioned by Gabriel Lea Kilgore and Thomas Kilgore not mentioned by Judge G. W. Kilgore as one of the"5 brothers". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jacktempleton27 Surnames: Kilgore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to get my pre-1750 SW VA Kilgore tree organized by identifying individuals as either documented (D), probable (P) or credible but less probable (CLP). I've been tracking over the years the selfless contributions of Vickie, John, Gail, & Jerry-- just to mention a few. I've tentatively placed Robert II (c1735) my 5ggrandfather, Charles (c1740), William ( ?? ) & Hiram (c1740) as "Probables" with James ( ?? ) & Thomas (husband of Lydia ?) as "Possibles" of six brothers. Using Jerry's naming customs, if Thomas was the oldest son, then I would put an elder Thomas (P) as one candidate for father of the brothers. A second candidate could be the Robert (P) who shows up in the 1755 Orange Co. tax list & may have been the one recommended to be exempt from public taxes in Orange Co. in May 1765. You all have come a long way in the last 10 or so years, correcting Judge Kilgore's writings & now putting DNA to work to maybe move that brick wall back a little bit. This octogenarian thanks you for your truly pioneering work. Any corrections/additions to my interpretations would be appreciated Jack R. Templeton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jacktempleton27 Surnames: Kilgore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/938.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Roy, I would love to get a copy of that book. Mailing address is: Jack R. Templeton 12516 Galway Drive Silver Spring, MD 20904 Let me know how I can reimburse shipping charges and/or make a contribution to help with your costs. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Mary. I am interested in learning if any more information is available about the connections between the Kilgore's in Plant City, Florida and the Kilgore's in Texas such as Henry M. Kilgore referenced by Cindy and between James Kilgore Sr of Darlington Co., SC and the Kilgore's in Texas. Henry -----Original Message----- From: Mary McCrury [mailto:mmccrury@nwol.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:05 PM To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Plant City Kilgores Thanks, Cindy for the information. This is the same Kilgores that Paula was trying to connect with several years back. I don't have them in my file. We think that there is a connection but can't find it yet. This family may also connect with the "Buck" Kilgore family. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Mcgehee" <cmcgehee01@msn.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:13 AM Subject: [KILGORE] Plant City Kilgores > Hi Mary and the rest of the gang I will give you the info I have on the Plant City, Fl. Kilgores: Henry M. Kilgore born Ratcliff, TX. on the 25th December, 1881; son of J>D. Kilgore and Jane Adair. He was educated in TX. and came to Fl. in 1902. He established Kilgore feed and seed and became very successful. He married Flossie Z. Motes in Tampa, Fl. March 07, 1904 and they had five children: Naomi, Mildred, Otis, Lois and Madison. > > I know this family personally from having attended the same local church with them. Madison's widow is still living and is remarried and their two sons are Don Kilgore, who is a retired Judge and John Kilgore who is a doctor here in Plant City. This family has been plagued with scandal and has really taken its toll on Madison's widow. For a long time I was convinced that this was not my line but I have had to rethink this because we are related. I would have to take time to go back and retrace exactly where Henry descends but I was able to do that last year and know that he is a descendant of James SR. You never know where you will find relatives so don't do like I did and assume that there is no relationship. Hope that this helps some of you. Mary I know that both you and Dot Garrison live and have family in TX. so this may be off your line. If you can't make the connection let me know and I will go back over all that I have and see if I can connect to it again. G! > ood luck. Cindy (Kilgore) McGehee > > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== > Check out the Kilgore boards at: > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/Kilgore > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreBibl > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/kil/KilgoreBios > > ==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== PLEASE NOTE: Addressing your mail to the list AND to a current subscriber results in that person receiving 2 copies of your message.

Cindy, I have returned after a long period to work on the genealogy of my Kilgore line. In your message dated August 4, 2001, you indicated that you might have information on the line of Henry M. Kilgore born at Ratcliff, Texas. Any such information would be a big help and greatly appreciated. Henry _____ From: Charles Mcgehee [mailto:cmcgehee01@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 10:40 AM To: Henry A. Hill Subject: PC Kilgores Henry this is what I have: Henry M. Kilgore was born at Ratcliff, Texas 25th day of December, 1881, son of J.D. and Jane (Adair) Kilgore. He recieved his education in Texas and came to Fl. in 1902, residing first at Bartow, Fl. where he lived for 3 years. In 1905 he moved to Tampa and 5 years later changed his residence to Plant City, at which time he established Kilgore Seed Co.. almost every seed used in Fl. was handled, also bee-keeping supplies, crate material, fertilizer, poulty supplies and so forth. He also did his part in civicaffairs, and in this connection he was a director in the East Hillsborough Co. Chamber of Commerce, alsoa director of Hillsborough State Bank and a member of the Plant City Kiwanis Club. He was married in Tampa on the 7th of March, 1904 to Flossie Z. Motes. they had five children: Naomi, Mildred, Otis, Lois and Madison. He also ran for the House of Repersenitaves but not sure of the outcome. I personally know Madison's (deseased) wife and his sons. We were in the same Bpt. church at one time. The sons are John M. Kilgore M.D. and Don Kilgore, Atty. I will have to go back through my charts to find out what line Henry's dad comes off of. Hope this is helpful to you. If you need any info on my line let me know. Cindy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elliemayclampett427 Surnames: Kilgore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/268.430/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! I'm not very good at this looking for ancestry thing, i'm just really interested in my heritage and thought perhaps you might know. My grandfather was Charles "Charlie" Kilgore, and I believe he lived in or near Marion Grundy counties from what I remember as a kid. And I remember Tracy City?? Is he and his family in any of your records??? Any info would be much appriciated. He was married to my Grandmother Beverly Kilgore tho I can not remember her maiden name. From what i'm told he came from a family with ALOT of brothers and sisters! But please any info you may have would be much appriciated, i'd really like to find out my heritage! Please Email me at jamiekilgore21@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

DD I just read about your son. May GOD have LOVE in your Life. Roy Killgore ________________________________ From: "DdHober@aol.com" <DdHober@aol.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 10:08:07 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Fwd: Projects (ID:644501)

It sounds acceptable to me. Would love to try to get my family tested. It would be interesting to see the results. Dorothy Hober

I just noticed that this service was available on Family Tree DNA and the money that I have left over, how about I donate it to the Kilgore site and if we have someone we want DNA testing done on we have a fund right there on the spot? Gail ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <helpdesk@ftdna.com> Date: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:32 AM Subject: Re: Projects (ID:644501) To: gail.kilgore@gmail.com Dear Gail,Thanks for your email.If you go to the website I gave you, you can choose the group project you wish your money to go towards, and it will be used only for that project. If you have a specific test or test-taker in mind, you can make that known as well. In case you need it again, here is the donation website: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-general-fund-contribution.aspx Please let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything else I can do for you. Thanks again, Morgan Mooney Family Tree DNA www.familytreedna.com 713-868-1438 "We put the gene in genealogy!" NOTE: When replying to this email please leave the subject intact. -----Original Message----- I see on the projects that you are showing a $0.00 balance. What is this for? Gail

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andyplant2 Surnames: Kilgore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1646/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to trace a line on Sheila Kilgore who was a model in Vogue in the 1950s daughter of S J Kilgore who may have worked for general motors fairly high up in auditing. Mean anything to anybody? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MichelleBrewerWood Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/17.663.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just ran across this very old thread. I am Michelle Yvonne Brewer Wood. Great granddaughter of Bishop Marvin and Mary Jo Kilgore. Lorena Kilgore Brewer was my grandmother and Frank E. Brewer Jr. was my father. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.