Thanks, still it helps me make better sense of the results. Would you mind using your software and recomputing the latest participants entries? I know I'd appreciate it. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: John Kilgore<mailto:john@johnkilgore.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA The graph indicates a best guess based on the AVERAGE rate of mutation. The ACTUAL mutations occur either more or less frequently in real life. So someone 10 generations removed may have 2 mutations and another person, also 10 generations removed, may have 3, so the program that makes the graph will guess that the person with 3 mutations is 13 generations removed instead of 10. All this is to say that the graph is only an indication, not an authority. JK On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Vickie Miller wrote: > That makes two of us. That's how I read John's graph. > Vickie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D Rennow<mailto:topdog@corgi.net<mailto:topdog@corgi.net>> > To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:59 AM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > Confused, she asks in an innocent manner... > So that means great grandfather was also the father? > Cousin Dennie > > Vickie Miller wrote: >> Gail, >> There are at least 4 contribrutors from the James Kilgore of >> Chester Co PA line. Interestingly, according to the graph from >> John's software program, James Kilgore of PA is 13 generations >> removed from my brother, while your Thomas Kilgore of MD is listed >> as 10 generations removed although one of the contributors lists >> him as 13 generations removed. >> >> Vickie >> >> From: Gail >> Kilgore<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com%3Cmailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com>>> >> To: >> kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@roots<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kilgore@roots> >> web.com%3Cmailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA >> >> >> Gail Meyer Kilgore >> 10675 N Chinook Dr. >> Casa Grande, AZ 85122 >> >> 520.836.2636 >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jack R. Templeton >> <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote<mailto:jacktempleton27@me.com% >> 3Ewrote<mailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote% >> 3Cmailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote>>: >> >>> Gail, >>> Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KILGORE>- >>> request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com% >>> 3Cmailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- >> request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE<mailto:request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KILGORE>- >> request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com% >> 3Cmailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- >> request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com>> with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/<http://www.avg.com%3chttp//www.avg.com/>> >> Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2497 - Release Date: >> 11/11/09 14:41:00 >> >> > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/<http://www.avg.com%3chttp//www.avg.com/>> > Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2498 - Release Date: > 11/12/09 02:38:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com>> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com<mailto:request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Confused, she asks in an innocent manner... So that means great grandfather was also the father? Cousin Dennie Vickie Miller wrote: > Gail, > There are at least 4 contribrutors from the James Kilgore of Chester Co PA line. Interestingly, according to the graph from John's software program, James Kilgore of PA is 13 generations removed from my brother, while your Thomas Kilgore of MD is listed as 10 generations removed although one of the contributors lists him as 13 generations removed. > > Vickie > > From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com> > To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > Gail Meyer Kilgore > 10675 N Chinook Dr. > Casa Grande, AZ 85122 > > 520.836.2636 > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jack R. Templeton > <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote<mailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote>: > > > Gail, > > Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. > > > > Jack > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2497 - Release Date: 11/11/09 14:41:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2498 - Release Date: 11/12/09 02:38:00

Gail, Could you tell me what is the cost for a DNA test that is being used for the Kilgore lines? Thanks. Henry -----Original Message----- From: kilgore-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kilgore-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gail Kilgore Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:24 PM To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Gail Meyer Kilgore 10675 N Chinook Dr. Casa Grande, AZ 85122 520.836.2636 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jack R. Templeton <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote: > Gail, > Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. > > Jack > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That makes two of us. That's how I read John's graph. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: D Rennow<mailto:topdog@corgi.net> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Confused, she asks in an innocent manner... So that means great grandfather was also the father? Cousin Dennie Vickie Miller wrote: > Gail, > There are at least 4 contribrutors from the James Kilgore of Chester Co PA line. Interestingly, according to the graph from John's software program, James Kilgore of PA is 13 generations removed from my brother, while your Thomas Kilgore of MD is listed as 10 generations removed although one of the contributors lists him as 13 generations removed. > > Vickie > > From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com>> > To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA > > > Gail Meyer Kilgore > 10675 N Chinook Dr. > Casa Grande, AZ 85122 > > 520.836.2636 > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jack R. Templeton > <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote<mailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote<mailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote%3Cmailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote>>: > > > Gail, > > Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. > > > > Jack > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/> > Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2497 - Release Date: 11/11/09 14:41:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/> Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2498 - Release Date: 11/12/09 02:38:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gail, Checks in the mail. Not much but hope it helps a little. Jack

Gail, There are at least 4 contribrutors from the James Kilgore of Chester Co PA line. Interestingly, according to the graph from John's software program, James Kilgore of PA is 13 generations removed from my brother, while your Thomas Kilgore of MD is listed as 10 generations removed although one of the contributors lists him as 13 generations removed. Vickie From: Gail Kilgore<mailto:gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] DNA Gail Meyer Kilgore 10675 N Chinook Dr. Casa Grande, AZ 85122 520.836.2636 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jack R. Templeton <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote<mailto:jacktempleton27@me.com%3Ewrote>: > Gail, > Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. > > Jack > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gail Meyer Kilgore 10675 N Chinook Dr. Casa Grande, AZ 85122 520.836.2636 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jack R. Templeton <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote: > Gail, > Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. > > Jack > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Gail, Send me your address so I can contribute to the DNA fund. Jack

Hey Gail!!! How are you feeling??? Sherry Melton Arnold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: <kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: [KILGORE] DNA Results > Here is confused here again.... > > Roy has the results of his DNA and he is connecting into the group that > Jack > connects too. He descends from Joseph Kilgore in Maine. > > Has anyone of the Chester Co. PA Kilgore's or the Elizabeth Kilgore Jack > line done and DNA? If you guys can't find anyone to do DNA out of the > Chester Co./Westmoreland group let me know and I will get someone in NE > who > descends from that line to do DNA. Brian Kilgore lives up the road > Awautukee, how is that for not knowing how to spell it? I can see if I > can > tract Brian down otherwise I will find one of his cousins or he may still > have an uncle alive but his father has passed on. They are the ones who > went into OH>IN>.IL and then Rising City, Bulter Co., NE > > Who is the common denominator???? > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are showing up Jack, thanks for posting... Gail On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Jack R. Templeton <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote: > Gail many thanks for your patience. Just to update everyone- I posted > messages on the following boards urging our Kilgore cousins to help > build the Kilgore DNA data base, both YDNA & MtDNA: > - Facebook's "Echoes From the Past" group which includes 6-10 > descendants Of Rev. Robt "Robin" > - Gen Forum > . Scott Co,VA > . Sullivan Co, TN. where many Kilgores moved in the early 30's > for jobs in Kingsport > . Robertson Co, TN in hopes of getting descendant(s) of Thos > (1748-1822). It would be nice to get DNA confirmation that > he is one of the brothers > . Orange Co, NC > . Granville Co, NC > . Caswell Co, NC > I included MtDNA because my results confirmed the paper trail of mi > Guilliam/Stidham line back to the mid 1750's. > Happy Veteran's Day to my veteran brothers & sisters. > Jack > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a $100.00 left for DNA and I found a Westmoreland Co., PA Kilgore who lives in Rising City, Nebraska who will do a DNA for us and I offered to pay for it. I will pay the difference and hope that there is a sale going on right now. He does not have a computer so will have to snail mail with him. His relative turned me down....... ;-((( Gail

Here is confused here again.... Roy has the results of his DNA and he is connecting into the group that Jack connects too. He descends from Joseph Kilgore in Maine. Has anyone of the Chester Co. PA Kilgore's or the Elizabeth Kilgore Jack line done and DNA? If you guys can't find anyone to do DNA out of the Chester Co./Westmoreland group let me know and I will get someone in NE who descends from that line to do DNA. Brian Kilgore lives up the road Awautukee, how is that for not knowing how to spell it? I can see if I can tract Brian down otherwise I will find one of his cousins or he may still have an uncle alive but his father has passed on. They are the ones who went into OH>IN>.IL and then Rising City, Bulter Co., NE Who is the common denominator???? Gail

Gail many thanks for your patience. Just to update everyone- I posted messages on the following boards urging our Kilgore cousins to help build the Kilgore DNA data base, both YDNA & MtDNA: - Facebook's "Echoes From the Past" group which includes 6-10 descendants Of Rev. Robt "Robin" - Gen Forum . Scott Co,VA . Sullivan Co, TN. where many Kilgores moved in the early 30's for jobs in Kingsport . Robertson Co, TN in hopes of getting descendant(s) of Thos (1748-1822). It would be nice to get DNA confirmation that he is one of the brothers . Orange Co, NC . Granville Co, NC . Caswell Co, NC I included MtDNA because my results confirmed the paper trail of mi Guilliam/Stidham line back to the mid 1750's. Happy Veteran's Day to my veteran brothers & sisters. Jack

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: superchief871 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have no reason to believe that the father of "the 5" came over with his sons. Patrick Porter seemed to think they came over by themselves, with some wives. I really need to find the Patrick Porter book. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CharlesShaw87 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm so confused, My computer says I'm on Rootsweb not ancestry.com. Sorry for the goof. I assumed I could "reply" to a email sent to me. Finding/proving the father of Robert Kilgore 1735-82 (one of the 5) would be a real achievement. Bob Shaw Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Jack, all you have to do is post a message to <kilgore@rootsweb.com>, and you will be posting to the mail list. Gail On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Jack Templeton <jacktempleton27@me.com>wrote: > Gail, I'm not sure if I'm getting messages or not. What's the difference in > Kilgore-L and the mailing list? I can search or browse the Kilgore-L > archives, but I haven't found how to join in back & forth e-mails. I started > getting messages from rootsweb L but none related to Kilgores. The help > pages tell me how to search/browse the archives & how to > subscribe/unsubscribe but apparently nothing else. I did get your message on > differences in boards @ rootsweb.ancestry.com & rootsweb mailing lists so > I must be signed up. I'll keep trying. if worse comes to worse I can keep up > to date browsing the kilgore-L archives. > Jack >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: VICKIE7293 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is ancestry.com not the Kilgore list on rootsweb. You cannot send an attachment to the Kilgore list on rootsweb. This is ancestry.com and perhaps it allows you to do so. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Kilgore BOARDS are located at rootsweb.ancestry.com and when you post a message to the BOARDS the message also posts to the Kilgore MAIL list. You CANNOT reply to a BOARD message on the mail list. If you do, your message goes back to the mail list and not to the sender on the BOARDS. You can only answer a BOARD message on the BOARD list and messages sent to the MAIL list only archive on the MAIL list. If the BOARD list accepts attachments, then only the BOARDS accept attachments. Attachments are not allowed on the Kilgore MAIL list. This is their rules not ours. I subbed Jack Templeton to the MAIL list. I have not heard if he is getting messages. Personally, I don't like to use the BOARDS and very seldom reply to a message on them. But, like I said, that is my choice. I know it gets confusing but is there anything simple when it comes to genealogy? Gail

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CharlesShaw87 Surnames: Kilgore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I guess you have changed your format as my "return" emails are being rejected. Below it says to attach a file. I thought you said we could not attach files??? You are getting me confused. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Jack We need to talk. I tried to send some family trees to you but was rejected. What is your email address? My wife is descended from Nancy Kilgore 1799, The Hutchinson's The Alley's. Porter, Green and others. My Father-in-law spent a long time in Scott Co getting ancestral data, and stories. I could also give you an invite to our tree if you wish. The Hutchinson's, Alleys, Porter's, Green's all fought with the Kilgores at Kings Mountain. Charles R. (Bob) Shaw 2425 Sherwin dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 330 425 8819 fax 330 963 6858 superchief87@roadrunner.com superchief87@yahoo.com www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] The "Kilgore Bothers" > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jacktempleton27 > Surnames: Kilgore, Alley, Bays, Gilliam, Stidham > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/1647.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Gail & Vickie, > I would like to join the mail list. How do I sign up? > My Kilgores are on the maternal side via Robin's daughter Nancy > (7/15/1799-2/4/1891)-my 3g grandmother. Unfortunately Kilgores are not in > my MtDNA line. My MtDNA results did however confirm my Gilliam/Stidham > roots back to the mid 1750's. > Facebook has an excellent group, "Echoes From the Past" ,managed by a 5g > grandson of Robin. This group has at least 5-10 descendants of Robin. I'll > try to figure out how to post a plea for YDNA and MtDNA testing. The > descendants include @ least 2 descendants of Robin's daughters; Susannah > (m Peter Bays) & Nancy (m David Alley). MtDNA tests of > mother-mother-mother descendants of Robin's daughters COULD provide > confirmation of paper trails back to Jane/Jean Porter. Similarly MtDNA > tests of Robin's sister's maternal descendants COULD provide confirmation > of paper trails back to at-least Winnie. I say "could" because it's > contingent on building a good data base. > Along with my facebook plea, I'll also post on the Scott Co genforum & > Sullivan Co, TN genforum where so many Scott Co. cousins migrated in the > early 30's for jobs in Kingsport, the "City of Industry". > Jack > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >