I think the site is http://kilgoreancestry.com/ and I never got back to working on it but the guest book gets some interesting messages but they don't leave an email to contact them. If someone else knows HTML and wants to work on the site I just renewed the URL again for two years. Gail On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Shaw <superchief87@yahoo.com>wrote: > What guest book? > > C Robert (Bob) Shaw > Engineered special Products Inc. > Product Engineer > ADSCO Line Products Inc. > 2425 Sherwin Dr. > Twinsburg Ohio 44087 > Phone: 330 425 8819 > Fax; 330 963 6858 > superchief87@yahoo.com > superchief87@roadrunner.com > www.engineeredspecialproducts.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> > To: kilgore@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 11:53:59 PM > Subject: [KILGORE] Leads > > I get all these good leads when someone signs the guest book on the website > Kilgore Ancestry but none of them ever leave their email address so they > can > be contacted. Just had a Aussie sign it with information and no way to > contact him. > > So, if you sign the guest book leave your email address. > > g > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, Thank you for doing all of this work. I know that we have to take these graphs with a grain of salt because they aren't 100% accurate; but I think that as guides for us, they are absolutely terrific. It really clears things up a lot. I agree, I now think that my ancestor Charles Kilgore born 1740 died 1823 was a nephew/great-nephew of Thomas Kilgore of Cecil Co MD. We have the 1858 letter that says that my Charles had brothers named William, Ralph & Thomas and I think this is helpiing to bear this out. The 1750 tax list for Granville Co NC shows a Robert Kilgore listed and then next year 1752 it shows Robert Kilgore & William Kilgore. I think this probably shows that William Kilgore had turned 21 and was now taxable on his own and that he was the William Kilgore (along with Ralph) who shows up in Augusta District GA in 1755 with a wife and I think 2 children. Vickie

Actually according to this, Peter's wife was named Elizabeth & he was the son of Peter Kilgore and Anne Reed d/o Alexander Reed and the elder Peter was in Lancaster Co VA as early as 1628!!!! Lancaster County Deeds 1710-1714 p9-10 In a deed dated 16 Mar 1711/1712 from Peter Kilgore of Lancaster Co to Thomas Pinson for 40 acres of land. It states that this land was originally sold to Peter Kilgore & Robert Bennett by Deed of Sale from William Thatcher & Elizabeth his wife dated 20 March 1628 and that this land was devised unto Peter by LW & Testament of Peter's father, Peter Kilgore. In another deed p42-44 it states tht land being sold by Peter Kilgore in a deed dated 8 Jan 1713 that the land was devised to his mother Anne Reed by Last Will & Testament of her father Alexander Reed dated 22 Feb 1669. This deed is signed Peter Kilgore & Elizabeth Kilgore p75-77 In a deed dated 2 Jan 1713 the deed proves that Anne Reed's husband was Peter Kilgore and their son was also named Peter Kilgore So you can trace your lineage back to 1628-Lancaster Co VA-which makes this Peter the earliest known Kilgore in the US Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Freda Daniel<mailto:ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts Actually, I was trying to say Spotsylvania off the top of my head and it came out Scott. This tells you there isn't much in the top of my head. I am aware of Peter I of Lancaster. He died 1709. Sons: Peter II and John, daughters: Ann and Margaret. No wife is mentioned. This is from: Abstracts LANCASTER COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS 1653 - 1800. >From SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY RECORDS 1721 - 1800: (my e-mail won't get out of Italics) Mary Kilgore, admx. of Peter, decd., with John and William Hackney, sec. May 2, 1727. This would be the Mary Haydon that m Peter Kilgow, 1 Nov 1722. This would be Peter II, Peter and John witnessed a deed there in 1726. These men would be brothers. There were brothers Peter III and John in Johnston Co., NC as per the will of John, 1761. I have a copy of this will. John does not mention a son Haden. He states that his plantation borders Haden's line. There are two lines in the will that have holes. Because of the dates, I am assuming (not proven) they are the children of Peter II and Mary Hadon. Her husband must have died young. Now we are to Peter III. There is an IGI record stating that Peter Kilgow m Rachel Hunter. they give the date1762 but I have not found this record. Also, there doesn't seem to be a will for this Peter but he was the one in Johnston and Wake Co, NC. He is the father of my James. Does any of this make sense? John, the #114277 was just a typo. It should be #114274. I think there is no doubt that the SC group came from NC. There are a lot of people researching this line. I knew about the Maine Kilgores but hadn't considered they were related to my ancestors. --- On Sat, 11/21/09, John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com<mailto:john@johnkilgore.com>> wrote: From: John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com<mailto:john@johnkilgore.com>> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:58 PM Hi Freda, The Joseph I was referring to is the one who was born in Markinch Scotland and moved to Maine. The kit number is 163654, and the lineage is given on the result pages as: John Kilgore, b. abt 1660, Scotland, Joseph Killgore, b 1690 Markinch Scotland, John Killgore, b. Maine, Joseph, b. Maine, Isaac, Sr., Maine, Isaac, Jr., Andrew, b. Michigan, Roy Sr. b. Michigan I don't see a kit number 114777 on the results page. There is a 114727, which is the James listed as follows: James Kilgore b. 1760, Hartsville, SC Darlington Dist., Peter Kilgore, Henry Kilgore, Robert Kilgore, b. 1850 Calhoun MS, Lewis Kilgore., b. 1886, Young's MS, Kilgore , Pope, Panola, MS It appears that Joseph, James and and your Peter Kilgo all come from what I am hypothesizing as the Scottish branch, as opposed to the Scots Irish branch, of the Kilgores. The DNA evidence, as far as I can tell, supports the theory that your brother is descended from Peter, the first Kilgore in America (1628. according to Vickie's excellent information,) who might have arrived directly from Scotland. It's also possible that he came to the new world from Ireland, as the Plantation of Ulster, begun in 1606 and taken over by the Crown in 1609, was already well under way. If so, he came here prior to the genetic diversification of the Kilgore lineages, and thus would have had the "original" Kilgore markers. At least that's my theory. Hope this helps, JK On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Freda Daniel wrote: > John, > > Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in > left field on DNA. > > My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that > I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co., > NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and > thus the James line. > > I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is > anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to > Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? > > Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of > Peter, Jr. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com<mailto:request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What guest book? C Robert (Bob) Shaw Engineered special Products Inc. Product Engineer ADSCO Line Products Inc. 2425 Sherwin Dr. Twinsburg Ohio 44087 Phone: 330 425 8819 Fax; 330 963 6858 superchief87@yahoo.com superchief87@roadrunner.com www.engineeredspecialproducts.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 11:53:59 PM Subject: [KILGORE] Leads I get all these good leads when someone signs the guest book on the website Kilgore Ancestry but none of them ever leave their email address so they can be contacted. Just had a Aussie sign it with information and no way to contact him. So, if you sign the guest book leave your email address. g ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I get all these good leads when someone signs the guest book on the website Kilgore Ancestry but none of them ever leave their email address so they can be contacted. Just had a Aussie sign it with information and no way to contact him. So, if you sign the guest book leave your email address. g

To help me try to translate "DNA" into a more simplistic form, I've been reading helpful hints for DNA project managers accessed from the Kilgore DNA Project home page. One of the most interesting papers compared digit zip code interpretation to DNA interpretation & can be found by googling< "zip code analogy" DNA> . On a zip code, the 1st digit gives you the area of the country from 1 on the east coast to 9 on the west coast; the 2nd & 3rd gives you the regional PO; 4th & 5th gives the town and the last 4 gives you the carrier route or major customer. Basically as you add more #'s you get more details of location. Similarly as you go from a 12 marker test to a 25 & then to a 37 you get progressively more data on familial groupings. The 12 test (AKA low mutation rate test), 25 (medium mutation rate test) & 37 (high mutation rate test) with the 37 having almost double the 12 mutation rate-- like the zip code as you add more mutations, you get more detail. The paper suggests looking first @ all DYS #"s in the 12 test. I prefer John's method looking @ the values that seems to best define the various Kilgore lines, in our case DYS439. Either way we end up with the same conclusion opined by John; namely, those with a value of 13 rather than 12 probably have an earlier ancestor than those with a value of 12. The paper then recommends looking @ the 25 test -all DYS #"s from 1-25. Again I like John's method better; namely just looking @ pertinent DYS #'s in the 13-25 group John used DYS449 (I would consider also using DYS 458 in which all members but 2 have a value of 18). Again we get the same basic result-- a James W. group is identified. This is as far as I've gotten so far. Have to read some more of those Project Manager guidelines to see if something else pops up. It all makes me a little dizzy at times but still having fun learning. Jack T.

Hi Freda, The Joseph I was referring to is the one who was born in Markinch Scotland and moved to Maine. The kit number is 163654, and the lineage is given on the result pages as: John Kilgore, b. abt 1660, Scotland, Joseph Killgore, b 1690 Markinch Scotland, John Killgore, b. Maine, Joseph, b. Maine, Isaac, Sr., Maine, Isaac, Jr., Andrew, b. Michigan, Roy Sr. b. Michigan I don't see a kit number 114777 on the results page. There is a 114727, which is the James listed as follows: James Kilgore b. 1760, Hartsville, SC Darlington Dist., Peter Kilgore, Henry Kilgore, Robert Kilgore, b. 1850 Calhoun MS, Lewis Kilgore., b. 1886, Young's MS, Kilgore , Pope, Panola, MS It appears that Joseph, James and and your Peter Kilgo all come from what I am hypothesizing as the Scottish branch, as opposed to the Scots Irish branch, of the Kilgores. The DNA evidence, as far as I can tell, supports the theory that your brother is descended from Peter, the first Kilgore in America (1628. according to Vickie's excellent information,) who might have arrived directly from Scotland. It's also possible that he came to the new world from Ireland, as the Plantation of Ulster, begun in 1606 and taken over by the Crown in 1609, was already well under way. If so, he came here prior to the genetic diversification of the Kilgore lineages, and thus would have had the "original" Kilgore markers. At least that's my theory. Hope this helps, JK On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Freda Daniel wrote: > John, > > Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in > left field on DNA. > > My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that > I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co., > NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and > thus the James line. > > I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is > anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to > Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? > > Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of > Peter, Jr. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, I was trying to say Spotsylvania off the top of my head and it came out Scott. This tells you there isn't much in the top of my head. I am aware of Peter I of Lancaster. He died 1709. Sons: Peter II and John, daughters: Ann and Margaret. No wife is mentioned. This is from: Abstracts LANCASTER COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS 1653 - 1800.   >From SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY RECORDS 1721 - 1800: (my e-mail won't get out of Italics) Mary Kilgore, admx. of Peter, decd., with John and William Hackney, sec. May 2, 1727. This would be the Mary Haydon that m Peter Kilgow, 1 Nov 1722. This would be Peter II, Peter and John witnessed a deed there in 1726. These men would be brothers.   There were brothers Peter III and John in Johnston Co., NC as per the will of John, 1761. I have a copy of this will.  John does not mention a son Haden. He states that his plantation borders Haden's line. There are two lines in the will that have holes. Because of the dates, I am assuming (not proven) they are the children of Peter II and Mary Hadon. Her husband must have died young.   Now we are to Peter III. There is an IGI record stating that Peter Kilgow m Rachel Hunter. they give the date1762 but I have not found this record. Also, there doesn't seem to be a will for this Peter but he was the one in Johnston and Wake Co, NC. He is the father of my James.   Does any of this make sense?   John, the #114277 was just a typo. It should be #114274. I think there is no doubt that the SC group came from NC. There are a lot of people researching this line. I knew about the Maine Kilgores but hadn't considered they were related to my ancestors.     --- On Sat, 11/21/09, John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com> wrote: From: John Kilgore <john@johnkilgore.com> Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:58 PM Hi Freda, The Joseph I was referring to is the one who was born in Markinch  Scotland and moved to Maine. The kit number is 163654, and the  lineage is given on the result pages as: John Kilgore, b. abt 1660, Scotland, Joseph Killgore, b 1690 Markinch Scotland, John Killgore, b. Maine, Joseph, b. Maine, Isaac, Sr., Maine, Isaac, Jr., Andrew, b. Michigan, Roy Sr. b. Michigan I don't see a kit number 114777 on the results page. There is a  114727, which is the James listed as follows: James Kilgore b. 1760, Hartsville, SC Darlington Dist., Peter Kilgore, Henry Kilgore, Robert Kilgore, b. 1850 Calhoun MS, Lewis Kilgore., b. 1886, Young's MS, Kilgore , Pope, Panola, MS It appears that Joseph, James and and your Peter Kilgo all come from  what I am hypothesizing as the Scottish branch, as opposed to the  Scots Irish branch, of the Kilgores. The DNA evidence, as far as I  can tell, supports the theory that your brother is descended from  Peter, the first Kilgore in America (1628. according to Vickie's  excellent information,) who might have arrived directly from  Scotland. It's also possible that he came to the new world from  Ireland, as the Plantation of Ulster, begun in 1606 and taken over by  the Crown in 1609,  was already well under way. If so, he came here  prior to the genetic diversification of the Kilgore lineages, and  thus would have had the "original" Kilgore markers. At least that's  my theory. Hope this helps, JK On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Freda Daniel wrote: > John, > > Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in  > left field on DNA. > > My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that  > I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co.,  > NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and  > thus the James line. > > I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is  > anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to  > Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? > > Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of  > Peter, Jr. > > Freda Kilgo Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think you mean Peter of Lancaster Co VA and early Spotsylvania & Rappahannock Counties in VA? I think Isaac went to western TN before disappearing. Vickie ----- Original Message ----- From: Freda Daniel<mailto:ftdan2@sbcglobal.net> To: Kilgore Board<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] John's charts John, Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in left field on DNA. My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co., NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and thus the James line. I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to Peter, Sr, maybe a brother? Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of Peter, Jr. Freda Kilgo Daniel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John,   Thank you so much for your work on the charts. I am totally out in left field on DNA.   My brother's kit is #135168. This adds some value to my theory that I descend from Peter of Scott, VA and his son Peter of Wake Co., NC. Also, I have long thought that Isaac, of Wake, went to SC and thus the James line.   I am not familiar with Joseph #114777. Is he of Scott Co and is anyone on this board connected to him? I know he didn't belong to Peter, Sr, maybe a brother?   Wish we could find someone to test for Isaac and John, brother of Peter, Jr.   Freda Kilgo Daniel

PS - forgot to mention that I think James M.'s kit also has a newer mutation from 39 back to 38, as he also is otherwise identical to Charles. I used asterisks on the two columns that I thought were new, more recent, mutations. Again, we'd need more members of these lines to see what's really up. JK

I've had the nagging feeling that there are important bits of information luring in the results data, but that we just can't see it. So in another attempt to make patterns visible, I eliminated all the information except for 4 values that seem to define the various Kilgore lines. These are: DYS 439 in the first panel of 12 markers. Most Kilgores on the results page have 12 in this spot, but some have 13. DYS 449 in the second panel. Most in the list have 29, but the descendants of James W (and "Henry") have 30. DYS 456 in the third panel. Most have 16, but the descendants of Charles have 15. CDYb in the third panel. Some have 38, some 39. The chart I made can be viewed here: http://johnkilgore.com/kilgoregen/DYSTable.htm When you remove the noise of all the other little mutations, some very interesting things appear: Joseph's line and Peter Kilgo's line become identical with James of SC. I think this represents the "original" lineage found in Scotland. The fact that Peter Kilgo is otherwise so distant seems to indicate that this is the common denominator from which the Irish, and later, American families diverged. James W.'s line developed the mutation that changed DYS 449 from 29 to 30. I believe that the 30 that shows in "Henry's" kit represents a new mutation from 29 to 30, but it would take more tests of other relatives of his to confirm this. I think this because Henry is otherwise identical to the Charles line. Charles' line contains the newest familial mutation at DYS 456 from 16 to 15. I do think Charles (or possibly Charles' father) is a nephew or grandnephew of either Thomas or Thomas' father. This new way of looking at the information seems to bear this out. I think the change from 13 to 12 at DYS 439 happened in the Kilgores who moved to Ireland, as both James W and Thomas' line show this mutation, though James W had a 30 at 449 instead of the standard Kilgore 29. I think the change from 38 to 39 at CDYb happened in Thomas' line and was passed to Charles' line somehow. I put Isaac's kit number in parenthesis because he has a 40 at CDYb. Since these locations can only mutate by one, that means his immediate ancestors had a 39. As we get more test results, some of this will come into even sharper focus. JK

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Correction--Isaac was born 11/30/1849 rather than 1847. He died in TX 1946 Jack T.

Here's what I found on Isaac's ancestry: o Robert Kilgore (c1635) & Winnie Clayton - Rev. Robt Kilgore (1765) & Jane/Jean Porter . Ralph (1773) & Nancy Gray .. John (1799-1870) & Cynthia Addington ... Charles Cromwell Kilgore (1820-1877) & Catherine Ferguson - Isaac Newton Kilgore (11/30/1847) & Martha Merrit Jack T.

Are you sure this is the same Isaac Kilgore? ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Killgore<mailto:r_killgore@yahoo.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Isaac Kilgore Vickie This is what I have on Issac: 1 [1] Charles Cromell Kilgore b: 16 Nov 1820 in Scott Co VA d: 12 Aug 1887 in TX .. +Catherine Ferguson b: 24 Nov 1822 in KY d: 1858 ..... 2 James Harvey Kilgore b: 21 Dec 1844 d: 29 Apr 1922 ......... +Arzel Lykins b: 24 Sep 1849 d: 30 Dec 1927 ............ 3 Sarah Jane Kilgore b: 28 Feb 1877 d: 11 Jan 1979 ............ 3 SylvesterMarion Kilgore b: Nov 1869 ................ +Pearl M Roberts b: Nov 1872 ................... 4 Howard Crosby Kilgore b: Jan 1891 in TX .......................... 5 Lloyd Kilgore d: Abt. 1960 in LaGrande ORG ................... 4 Herman Kilgore b: Mar 1893 ................... 4 Jewel V Kilgore b: Dec 1897 ..... 2 John Henry Kilgore ......... +Arzilia Lykins ............ 3 Lou Allie Kilgore ..... 2 Issac Newton Kilgore b: 30 Nov 1849 ......... +Martha Merritt ..... 2 Joseph Dudley Kilgore b: 19 Dec 1853 ..... 2 Nathaneil Green Kilgore b: 01 Nov 1856 *2nd Wife of [1] Charles Cromell Kilgore: .. +Margret Leash b: 1829 ..... 2 William Clark Kilgore b: 23 Nov 1867 ......... +??? Winters ..... 2 Judith Kilgore b: 07 Jul 1870 ________________________________ From: Vickie Miller <vickie7293@msn.com<mailto:vickie7293@msn.com>> To: Kilgore <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:06:46 AM Subject: [KILGORE] Isaac Kilgore Does anyone know who contributed the DNA for Isaac Kilgore kit # 134088 and how to contact him? He closely matches my Charles Kilgore line; but was believed to be of Robert & Winnie Kilgore's line. This seems to be wrong. I don't have this Isaac in my database; but this needs further investigation. Due to a computer crash of a couple of weeks ago, I've lost much of my stored email and some Kilgore data. My computer still isn't working 100% and I have problems with some internet sites and getting to addresses for them. Vickie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Wrong one: Descendants of James Kilgore 1 James Kilgore b: Abt. 1820 d: 15 Jun 1899 in Marion, Tennessee, USA .. +Unk b: in TN ..... 2 Stephen Kilgore b: Abt. 1826 in Marion Co TN`` d: Jul 1902 in Lankford Town, Marion Co., TN ......... +Nancy A Thompson b: Abt. 1834 in Marion Co TN`` d: Abt. 1897 in Lankford Town, Marion Co., TN ............ 3 Anne Arceny Kilgore b: in TN d: in KY ............ 3 George Kilgore b: Abt. 1855 ............ 3 Mary Kilgore b: 1853 ............ 3 Elizabeth Canzada Kilgore b: 1855 in Marion Co TN d: May 1903 in GA ................ +William Thomas Dickson b: 06 Jun 1848 in Franklin Co TN ................... 4 John E Dickson ....................... +Sally Mae Taylor ............ 3 Sarha G Kilgore b: 1859 ............ 3 William M Kilgore b: 1860 ............ 3 Layafette Kilgore b: 1873 ............ 3 Charles Kilgore b: 1876 in Grundy Co TN ..... 2 William Kilgore b: Abt. 1830 Census: 1880 Marion Co TN`` ......... +Julia A Lnu b: 20 Nov 1827 in Marion Co TN`` d: 09 Jun 1886 in Marion Co TN`` ............ 3 Riley Kilgore b: 1861 ............ 3 Abraham Kilgore b: 1863 d: 1948 ................ +Sarah Jane Layne ............ 3 Frank Kilgore b: 1865 ............ 3 David Kilgore b: 1867 ............ 3 Isaac Kilgore b: 1870 d: 1932 ................ +Caraline Fitis b: Aug 1860 d: 07 Apr 1956 ................... 4 Hester Kilgore b: 1900 d: 1983 ....................... +Harvey Erwin b: 1877 d: 1963 .......................... 5 Hazel Erwin b: 1926 d: 2002 .............................. +Harlin E Mohr ............ 3 Mary Kilgore b: 1873 ..... 2 Barbara Kilgore b: Abt. 1833 ......... +Charles Kilgore ..... 2 Rebecca Kilgore b: Abt. 1837 ......... +John Parmley b: Abt. 1836 ..... 2 Issac Kilgore b: 1844 in Marion Co TN ......... +Sarah McQuary b: Abt. 1846 d: 1936 in Layne's Chapel, Whitwell TN ............ 3 Lizzie Kilgore b: Abt. 1864 in Marion Co TN ............ 3 Hailie Kilgore b: 1865 in Marion Co TN ............ 3 Joseph Kilgore b: 1868 in Marion Co TN ............ 3 Washington Kilgore b: 1870 in Marion Co TN ............ 3 Elvira Kilgore b: 1872 in Marion Co TN ............ 3 David Kilgore b: 07 Apr 1877 in Marion Co TN d: 25 Jan 1976 in Marion Co TN ................ +Unk.??? ................... 4 Lonnie Kilgore b: 16 Oct 1908 d: 31 Mar 1978 in Marion Co TN ....................... +UNK ________________________________ From: Vickie Miller <vickie7293@msn.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 6:00:00 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Isaac Kilgore Are you sure this is the same Isaac Kilgore? ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Killgore<mailto:r_killgore@yahoo.com> To: kilgore@rootsweb.com<mailto:kilgore@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Isaac Kilgore Vickie This is what I have on Issac: 1 [1] Charles Cromell Kilgore b: 16 Nov 1820 in Scott Co VA d: 12 Aug 1887 in TX .. +Catherine Ferguson b: 24 Nov 1822 in KY d: 1858 ..... 2 James Harvey Kilgore b: 21 Dec 1844 d: 29 Apr 1922 ......... +Arzel Lykins b: 24 Sep 1849 d: 30 Dec 1927 ............ 3 Sarah Jane Kilgore b: 28 Feb 1877 d: 11 Jan 1979 ............ 3 SylvesterMarion Kilgore b: Nov 1869 ................ +Pearl M Roberts b: Nov 1872 ................... 4 Howard Crosby Kilgore b: Jan 1891 in TX .......................... 5 Lloyd Kilgore d: Abt. 1960 in LaGrande ORG ................... 4 Herman Kilgore b: Mar 1893 ................... 4 Jewel V Kilgore b: Dec 1897 ..... 2 John Henry Kilgore ......... +Arzilia Lykins ............ 3 Lou Allie Kilgore ..... 2 Issac Newton Kilgore b: 30 Nov 1849 ......... +Martha Merritt ..... 2 Joseph Dudley Kilgore b: 19 Dec 1853 ..... 2 Nathaneil Green Kilgore b: 01 Nov 1856 *2nd Wife of [1] Charles Cromell Kilgore: .. +Margret Leash b: 1829 ..... 2 William Clark Kilgore b: 23 Nov 1867 ......... +??? Winters ..... 2 Judith Kilgore b: 07 Jul 1870 ________________________________ From: Vickie Miller <vickie7293@msn.com<mailto:vickie7293@msn.com>> To: Kilgore <KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:06:46 AM Subject: [KILGORE] Isaac Kilgore Does anyone know who contributed the DNA for Isaac Kilgore kit # 134088 and how to contact him? He closely matches my Charles Kilgore line; but was believed to be of Robert & Winnie Kilgore's line. This seems to be wrong. I don't have this Isaac in my database; but this needs further investigation. Due to a computer crash of a couple of weeks ago, I've lost much of my stored email and some Kilgore data. My computer still isn't working 100% and I have problems with some internet sites and getting to addresses for them. Vickie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoyEKillgore_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/477.485.4.2.2.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are very welcome Ronnie. You will receive a letter in a couple of days about the Kilgore Y Chromosome project. You might be able to do me an enormous favor. I have not been able to give any books to Kilgour's in Scotland because I can't get any telephone numbers or addresses. If you have access to Scottish telephone books I would certainly appreciate a photocopy of Kilgour listings? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ronkilgore3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kilgore/477.485.4.2.2.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Roy. Both books have arrived safe and sound. Both of my brothers are truly delighted to receive them, as am I. We don't know how to thank you enough for your kindness. I am still in the process of reading my copy (when I get the time to) and enjoying the information very muuch. So detailed, really amazing. Once again very many thanks. Best wishes, Ronnie Kilgore (and my brothers Bobby & Derek) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This kit shares features with your line, but also with James W of ireland b1707: He has the classic Kilgore 29 at DYS 449 that all Kilgores share EXCEPT for the James W of ireland b1707 line. He has the 15 at DYS 456 that your Charles line, Isaac's line and the Wm b. 1726 Ga. or NC line share. BUT he has a 38 at DYS CDYb, like James W of ireland b1707, Joseph Kilgore b 1690 Markinch Scotland, and the James of SC line all share. His 17 at DYS 570 is a unique mutation not shared by others, and can be ignored for now. On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Vickie Miller wrote: > Is anyone here connected to the James Kilgore born c1812 TN who is > represented by the DNA kit # 133429? In the past, we've worked on > this one before trying to fit him into the line of Charles Kilgore > of Greene Co TN. He now seems to be a close match and possibly/ > probably descended from Charles. I still don't see how he fits in; > but I'd like to look back over this lineage. > Vickie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KILGORE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >