Mary McCrury wrote: > > This is from another list but maybe it will help someone. > go to: > http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm > > You can look up either side > Mary

Louisiana Confederate Pension Application information page http://sec.state.la.us/archives/gen/cpa-INDEX.htm Apologies for not posting this last time. Tom

KILLGORE, FANNIE (SIMMS) CP1.77 1, seq. 23 12 KILLGORE, FANNIE SIMS KILLGORE, FANNIE (SIMS) CP1.77 1, seq. 23 12 KILLGORE, FANNIE SIMS KILLGORE, HARRIETT B. CP1.129 3, seq. 3 5 SMITH, HARRIETT B. (KILLGORE) KILLGORE, I. A. CP1.77 1, seq. 24 8 KILLGORE, J. A. KILLGORE, JAMES ANDREW CP1.77 1, seq. 24 8 KILLGORE, J. A. KILLGORE, MOLLIE CP1.146 2, seq. 29 4 WHITE, MOLLIE (KILLGORE) KILLGORE, W. C. CP1.77 1, seq. 25 6 KILLGORE, WILLIAM C. KILLGORE, WILLIAM C. CP1.77 1, seq. 25 6 KILLGORE, WILLIAM C. KILLGORE, WILLIAM C. CP1.77 1, seq. 23 12 KILLGORE, FANNIE SIMS KILLIAM, SARAH EDNORA CP1.7 2, seq. 23 5 BARNES, SARAH EDNORA same url as previous message

Louisiana Secretary of State Confederate Pension Applications Index Name Search Results Name Reel Microdex Pages Target Card KILGORE, J. V. CP1.77 1, seq. 19 13 KILGORE, J. V. KILGORE, WILLIAM C. CP1.77 1, seq. 25 6 KILLGORE, WILLIAM C. http://sec.state.la.us/cgibin/?rqstyp=CPAA&rqsdta=Kilgore from Tom

Have been away, to NY and Conn to visit two of our children and their families. Received your Osborne info on our return. Thanks a lot and a belated, happy birthday to you. Nell

Randy/Jack, You guys could have fooled me re birthdays & being twins (Happy B-day Jack!). That 1500s stuff is hilarious and very witty. I loved every bit of it. Had Jack not owned up to it I might have thought Randy had gone bonkers again. Thanks for the smiles. Alice ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Was looking through Randolph Co. GA early records pages and found these deed entries that might be of interest to someone. Randolph County, GA Early Deeds 1831-1839 Part 5b >From Randolph Co. Deed Books A, B, C Henry BEASLEY of Walton Co. to WILLIS KILGORE of Walton Co. Lot #270, 4th Dist. Wit. John Bestwick, Wm B. Brantley, J.P. Apr 14, 1836/Apr.18, 1837 WILLIS KILGORE of Walton Co. to H. I. Reid of Stewart Co., Lot #270, 4th Dist. Wit. Solomon Coker, Jasper M. Raines, J.P. Oct. 26, 1836/Apr. 18, 1837 ALSO FOUND LOTS OF KILGORE NAMES AT THIS SITE: http://www.interment.net/data/search.htm Ora Jane

I should have said he migrated to South Carolina from his birthplace in Cumberland Co. PA prior to the Revolution and removed to KY late in life, dying there in Livingston Co in 1802. Rita Davis >From: "Rita H Davis" <ritadavis55@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Missouri, Hugh Killgore >Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 23:31:48 -0400 > >I don't have details of the KY family which you mention, but, if your line >goes back to James and Elizabeth Jack Kilgore of Cumberland Co PA, it was >through his second son Benjamin. Benjamin kilgore left Cumberland Co PA >before the Revolution, and toward the end of his life removed to KY where >he >died in 1802 at Livingston KY. He mentions a son Hugh in his will. > > >>From: Mikbarpar@aol.com >>Reply-To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >>To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Missouri, Hugh Killgore >>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:33:21 EDT >> >>Tom, Richard, >> >>Thanks for sharing this. Hugh Kilgore is my husband's Mike Rowe direct >>line. This is kind of a late roll call >>Mike Rowe, mother, Roseleen Kilgore, her father Robert Gene Kilgore, his >>father Henry Washington Kilgore b. Missouri (move to and was a US marshall >>in Oklahoma), his father Hugh Killgore Missouri, his father Washtington >>Killgore, Caldwell, KY then we think his father if also a Hugh and that >>the >>line goes back to James and Elizabeth Jack Kilgore in PA. Family >>tradition >>says that family (our line) came from a very large family, at least 18 >>children. >> >>I will check further when I get home. Good to hear something on this >>line. >> >>Sincerely, >>Barbara (James) Rowe >> >> >>==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== >>ANY COMPLAINTS email to KILGORE-admin@rootsweb.com, NOT to list. >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== >PLEASE NOTE: Addressing your mail to the list AND >to a current subscriber results in that person receiving >2 copies of your message. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I don't have details of the KY family which you mention, but, if your line goes back to James and Elizabeth Jack Kilgore of Cumberland Co PA, it was through his second son Benjamin. Benjamin kilgore left Cumberland Co PA before the Revolution, and toward the end of his life removed to KY where he died in 1802 at Livingston KY. He mentions a son Hugh in his will. >From: Mikbarpar@aol.com >Reply-To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >To: KILGORE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [KILGORE] Missouri, Hugh Killgore >Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 23:33:21 EDT > >Tom, Richard, > >Thanks for sharing this. Hugh Kilgore is my husband's Mike Rowe direct >line. This is kind of a late roll call >Mike Rowe, mother, Roseleen Kilgore, her father Robert Gene Kilgore, his >father Henry Washington Kilgore b. Missouri (move to and was a US marshall >in Oklahoma), his father Hugh Killgore Missouri, his father Washtington >Killgore, Caldwell, KY then we think his father if also a Hugh and that the >line goes back to James and Elizabeth Jack Kilgore in PA. Family tradition >says that family (our line) came from a very large family, at least 18 >children. > >I will check further when I get home. Good to hear something on this line. > >Sincerely, >Barbara (James) Rowe > > >==== KILGORE Mailing List ==== >ANY COMPLAINTS email to KILGORE-admin@rootsweb.com, NOT to list. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Psst! Jack Goins is really my twin brother! I know, I know, my own birthday isn't 'til November, but Jack's always been early for everything, and I've always been late... Anyway, happy birthday Jack. Respectfully, Randy

Happy Birthday to Jack Goins. Dorothy Garrison

MINDING YOUR Ps & Qs Ale was served at local taverns out of a "tankard" ... you were charged by the angle of your elbow ... half-way up... you drank a pint, all the way up... you drank a quart. Since the Quart cost so much more than the Pint, you were warned to "Mind your Ps & Qs" GETTING TANKED When you drank too much out of the above "tankard" you were said to be "tanked" ... if you got so "tanked" that you passed out, there was a chance that somebody might think you had actually died. Since back then they didn't have experience with taking pulses, they often buried people alive who were actually in a drunken stupor or otherwise comatose. SAVED BY THE BELL When our ancestors realized that they were burying a great deal of people before their time had actually come, they came up with a solution. They tied a string onto the "dead" person's hand, buried them, and tied the other end of the string to a bell and then tied it to nearby tree branch. If the person revived enough to ring the bell, their survivors would rush out and dig them up. Hence... "saved by the bell" GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK Candles were expensive to make, so often reeds were dipped in tallow and burned instead. When visitors came, it was the custom for guests to make their exit by the time the lights went out. Therefore, if your host didn't want you to stay very long, he would give you a "short stick." BURNING THE CANDLE AT BOTH ENDS If they REALLY didn't want you to stay very long, they would light "both ends" at the same time! GETTING A SQUARE MEAL Your dinner plate was a square piece of wood with a "bowl" carved out to hold your serving of the perpetual stew that was always cooking over the fire. The kettle was never actually emptied and cleaned out. New ingredients were simply added to the muck. You always took your "square" with you when you went traveling. CLEANING YOUR PLATE The square plate (above) was never washed either. After your daily dose of stew, you wiped your plate clean with a piece of bread. Then you flipped it over which provided a flat surface for your dessert portion (if there was any, that is) STONE COLD Slate floors were often cold enough during the winter months that any bare skin coming in contact with them would "stick". The slate floors were covered with a layer of hay to provide some warmth. The kitchen was the only room kept heated during the winter. All of the family spent the day cooped up in this one room (often 10 kids or more)... also the family cats and dogs who served important functions of "mousing," "garbage disposal," and etc. BABY'S HIGH CHAIR with holes in the seat (a.k.a. "drainage chair") During the winter months, young babies were strapped into their chairs and were never allowed to crawl around in the hay on the stone-cold floor. They didn't wear any diapers of any sort. They sat in that chair all day... and you know why there were holes in their chair! SPRING CLEANING The layer of hay in the kitchen, was finally hauled out of the house when the weather turned warm in the Spring. BON(e)FIRE The discarded "bones" from winter meals were burned.... REASON FOR CANOPY BEDS Most English homes of old had "thatched" roofs. Canopies were placed over the beds to keep bugs, mice, dirt, rain, etc. from disturbing your sleep! Of course, I think I would want to stay awake because I'd be so afraid of having to be "saved by the bell"! Compiled by Joanne Todd Rabun

I picked the following up at the Anne Hathaway cottage in Victoria BC and thought that I would share it with you all. If you should go visit Randy, this information is necessary. Cousin Jack in Hoodsport, WA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life in the 1500's---- Anne Hathaway was the wife of William Shakespeare. She married at the age of 26. This is really unusual for the time. Most people married young, like at the age of 11 or 12. Life was not as romantic as we may picture it. Here are some examples: Anne Hathaway's home was a 3 bedroom house with a small parlor, which was seldom used (only for company), kitchen, and no bathroom. Mother and Father shared a bedroom. Anne had a queen sized bed, but did not sleep alone. She also had 2 other sisters and they shared the bed also with 6 servant girls. (this is before she married) They didn't sleep like we do lengthwise but all laid on the bed crosswise. At least they had a bed. The other bedroom was shared by her 6 brothers and 30 field workers. They didn't have a bed. Everyone just wrapped up in their blanket and slept on the floor. They had no indoor heating so all the extra bodies kept them warm. They were also small people, the men only grew to be about 5'6" and the women were 4'8". So in their house they had 27 people living. Most people got married in June. Why? They took their yearly bath in May, so they were till smelling pretty good by June, although they were starting to smell, so the brides would carry a bouquet of flowers to hide their b.o. Like I said, they took their yearly bath in May, but it was just a big tub that they would fill with hot water. The man of the house would get the privilege of the nice clean water. Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was pretty thick. Thus, the saying, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water," it was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. I'll describe their houses a little. You've heard of thatch roofs, well that's all they were. Thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. They were the only place for the little animals to get warm. So all the pets; dogs, cats and other small animals, mice, rats, bugs, all lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery so sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Thus the saying, "it's raining cats and dogs." Since there was nothing to stop things from falling into the house they would just try to clean up a lot. But this posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings from animals could really mess up your nice clean bed, so they found if they would make beds with big posts and hang a sheet over the top it would prevent that problem. That's where those beautiful big 4 poster beds with canopies came from. When you came into the house you would notice most times that the floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, that's where the saying "dirt poor" came from. The wealthy would have slate floors. That was fine but in the winter they would get slippery when they got wet. So they started to spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on they would just keep adding it and adding it until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. So they put a piece of wood at the entry way, a "thresh hold". In the kitchen they would cook over the fire, they had a fireplace in the kitchen/parlor, that was seldom used and sometimes in the master bedroom. They had a big kettle that always hung over the fire and every day they would light the fire and start adding things to the pot. Mostly they ate vegetables, they didn't get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner then leave the leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew would have food in it that had been in there for a month! Thus the rhyme: peas porridge it hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot, nine days old." Sometimes they could get a hold of some pork. They really felt special when that happened and when company came over they even had a rack in the parlor where they would bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. That was a sign of wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and they would all sit around and "chew the fat." If you had money your plates were made out of pewter. Sometimes some of their food had a high acid content and some of the lead would leach out into the food. They really noticed it happened with tomatoes so they stopped eating tomatoes for about 400 years. Most people didn't have pewter plates though, they all had trenchers, that was a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. They never washed their boards and a lot of times worms would get into the wood. After eating off the trencher with worms they would get "trench mouth." If you were going traveling and wanted to stay at an Inn they usually provided the bed but not the board. The bread was divided according to status. The workers would get the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family would get the middle and guests would get the top, or the "upper crust". They also had lead cups and when they would drink their ale or whiskey. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. They would be walking along the road and here would be someone knocked out and they thought they were dead. So they would pick them up and take them home and get them ready to bury. They realized if they were too slow about it, the person would wake up. Also, maybe not all of the people they were burying were dead. So they would lay them out on the kitchen table for a couple of days, the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. That's where the custom of holding a "wake" came from. Since England is so old and small they started running out of places bury people. So they started digging up some coffins and would take their bones to a house and re-use the grave. They started opening these coffins and found some had scratch marks on the inside. One out of 25 coffins were that way and they realized they had still been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist and lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night to listen for the bell. That is how the saying "graveyard shift" was made. If the bell would ring they would know that someone was "saved by the bell" or he was a "dead ringer".

Yeah, I know.....I thought we were leaving but we decided to take in a movie and leave in the morning. So, the van's all packed and all we need now is a good night's sleep. Yawn. We were not even sure where we were going but finally selected what looks to be like a nice place. Do you know the name of the mobile home park? I wonder if there is an on-site manager? Thanks for looking. My stomach is sort of in knots. Do I really want to find him??? What kind of restaurant? Carmen

Thanks Alice, will do....:) Carmen

Tom, Richard, Thanks for sharing this. Hugh Kilgore is my husband's Mike Rowe direct line. This is kind of a late roll call Mike Rowe, mother, Roseleen Kilgore, her father Robert Gene Kilgore, his father Henry Washington Kilgore b. Missouri (move to and was a US marshall in Oklahoma), his father Hugh Killgore Missouri, his father Washtington Killgore, Caldwell, KY then we think his father if also a Hugh and that the line goes back to James and Elizabeth Jack Kilgore in PA. Family tradition says that family (our line) came from a very large family, at least 18 children. I will check further when I get home. Good to hear something on this line. Sincerely, Barbara (James) Rowe

I thought you were leaving for a few days. That address you sent me is a mobile home park. It was just a block from where I had my restaurant. Gail

Gail and Carmen! Neither of you should be embarrassed. It is a touching and interesting story. I hope she gets the help she needs and can discover the other side of her family. Alice ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Carmen, No, I can't help you but your story is fascinating and I hope you write the follow-up so we can all read it! And, hopefully, someone "out there" will be able to help you find your father. Best of luck to you! Alice ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

A lot of us have done that at one time or another. Not a problem. Connie Keep what is worth keeping and with a breath of kindness, blow the rest away. Author Unknown